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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Silverbullet65 on March 26, 2019, 06:22:05 AM

Title: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: Silverbullet65 on March 26, 2019, 06:22:05 AM
I just read a Facebook post that Fred Harmon can now
Replace batteries in both type sensers
I’m on the second set with sealed batteries and would
Like to replace mine since the tires are off
Anyone know where to ship them or has
Contact info for Fred Harmon?
He says it’s usually a one day turnaround as well
I haven’t had any luck trying to reach him
Through Facebook
Title: Re: Tons battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: FTB530 on March 26, 2019, 07:27:59 AM
If you do Facebook he just posted a note about this in the last few days, you could go there or his website and get information as to were to send them.
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Title: Re: Tons battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: connie_rider on March 26, 2019, 07:54:18 AM
Fred has moved to Arkansas.
I'm not sure if I can reach him anymore.

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: Silverbullet65 on March 26, 2019, 05:02:09 PM
Update
I just received an email from Fred
And he can change the batteries
in the new sealed Sensers for $92 including
2day insured Shipping
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 26, 2019, 07:39:53 PM
That's not too bad if it's out of warranty.
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: Conrad on April 22, 2019, 06:31:38 AM
Update
I just received an email from Fred
And he can change the batteries
in the new sealed Sensers for $92 including
2day insured Shipping

Perhaps you'd like to share Fred's contact info so that others can benefit from his service? 
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: VirginiaJim on April 22, 2019, 07:51:54 AM
In looking at Fred's website, the only contact I see is his email address...   fredharmon@netzero.net
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: BMahar on April 22, 2019, 08:15:55 AM
  Fred changed out the batteries in my 2011 Concours back in December of 2018 and I had them back in less then a week.
  He did a great job.

 His mailing address is;
 Fred Harmon, 1480 Christensen Dr, Mountain Home, Arkansas. 72653

 email add " fredharmon@netzero.net"
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: Conrad on April 23, 2019, 06:09:48 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: speedracersworld on July 13, 2019, 08:33:58 PM
I just changed the batteries in both front & rear TPMS Sensor Transmitters of my 08 C-14. It's Easy with a good soldering iron, flux & solder! YouTube has a couple of videos. Mine work great!! I can do the "non sealed" ones no problem if someone wants them done. Haven't looked at the ones on my 2016 yet but I'm sure they can't be hard to do.
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: B.D.F. on July 14, 2019, 04:05:30 PM
The newer ones on your '16 are completely different; from Schrader rather than the mfg. in France, and it is a potted design. You <can> change the batteries but it involves cutting tools to open the sensor body and then a very careful battery removal followed but trying to solder to wires buried in epoxy. A friend of mine has one open right now and we are trying to figure out how to get the battery out without destroying the lead and / or PC board underneath the battery.

Brian

I just changed the batteries in both front & rear TPMS Sensor Transmitters of my 08 C-14. It's Easy with a good soldering iron, flux & solder! YouTube has a couple of videos. Mine work great!! I can do the "non sealed" ones no problem if someone wants them done. Haven't looked at the ones on my 2016 yet but I'm sure they can't be hard to do.
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: speedracersworld on July 14, 2019, 10:50:49 PM
 :-[Post pics or a YouTube video!! :)
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: speedracersworld on April 18, 2022, 06:04:55 PM
There is/ are YouTube videos on how to do it. As long as tour TPMS sensor is in good condition, it's pretty easy. The batteries are available at Digikey or eBay. I did my old Connie & they worked great. Unfortunately this bike had some tire sealing goop in the wheels that corroded my front sensor useless.
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: maxtog on April 19, 2022, 05:36:33 AM
The newer models come with the newer sensors, which are epoxy-sealed.  Replacing THOSE batteries would be more than a nightmare.
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: speedracersworld on April 19, 2022, 12:23:31 PM
I saw someone selling replacement TPMS Sensors reprogrammed to work with the C14s. It's still needs to be programmed to the bike via KDS. I wonder if Steve at Shoodaben has hacked Auto 434 mhz TPMS Sensors yet?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-1400-GTR-ZG-TPMS-pressure-sensor-433-434-MHz-now-available-/115036807760?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: Freddy on April 19, 2022, 06:03:17 PM
That's my ad on ebay.  Steve's not in a position to do the 315 sensors but someone else is working on them for the North American bikes.
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: speedracersworld on April 20, 2022, 05:28:16 AM
That's my ad on ebay.  Steve's not in a position to do the 315 sensors but someone else is working on them for the North American bikes.

Great!! I saw that NA C14 sensors will be available Mid 2022?
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: maxtog on April 20, 2022, 03:17:16 PM
That's my ad on ebay.  Steve's not in a position to do the 315 sensors but someone else is working on them for the North American bikes.

LOL/Kewl!
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: speedracersworld on April 20, 2022, 07:31:50 PM
That's my ad on ebay.  Steve's not in a position to do the 315 sensors but someone else is working on them for the North American bikes.

Can you/ Is there a way to code new sensors to the original bikes TPMS codes so KDS Programming isn't needed?
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: Freddy on April 20, 2022, 09:36:13 PM
I haven't tried to do that but will give it a try later today.

Answer: No.  I did the 'copy & program' to a new sensor but it came up with a Failed code.  BigRed in the other thread says he got it to copy but hasn't posted the final outcome yet.
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: speedracersworld on April 25, 2022, 09:58:45 AM
I haven't tried to do that but will give it a try later today.

Answer: No.  I did the 'copy & program' to a new sensor but it came up with a Failed code.  BigRed in the other thread says he got it to copy but hasn't posted the final outcome yet.

Is BigRed the other guy who is working on the NA sensors? When will your NA Sensors be available?
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: Freddy on April 25, 2022, 06:29:08 PM
No - the guy is recovering from recent surgery (hip replacement I think it was).  Hopefully just a mater of a few weeks.  It's taken much longer than anticipated, sorry, due to circumstances outside my control.

Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: Big Red on May 02, 2022, 03:26:11 PM
If anyone has a second generation of TPMS sensor that I can play with, I'd pay for shipping both ways. I think I may be able to get data from the sensor.
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: STC14JIM on November 19, 2022, 09:57:50 AM
BigRed:

I wonder if the newer sensors operate on 315 or 434 MhZ ?   I'm not 100% certain but my  US   '15 Triumph Trophy sensors may operate at 434 MHz.  315 seems like the dominant frequency used in the US  but some vehicles do use 434 MHz.

I bought a MAXI PAD  & some MX sensors to see if I could pick/guess  the proper protocol for my Trophy.

I may try a Mazda Aztenza 01/2016 - 12/2018  if they operate at 434 MHz.

Attached is an AUTEL US application file that might be helpful.

Please let me know if you find a proper protocol o make the AUTEL MX sensors work with the newer C-14.
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: dbird29 on November 19, 2022, 12:39:30 PM
Autel MX One sensors will do both frequencies.
If you can't read the HEX code via the MaxiTPMS pad, you can enter the code printed on the old sensors into the Autel programming software.

I followed Big Red's instructions and replaced my dying stock ones when I changed tires this summer. Still working great!
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: Big Red on November 19, 2022, 08:03:41 PM
Please let me know if you find a proper protocol o make the AUTEL MX sensors work with the newer C-14.

I would love to, but I haven't had anyone who's taken me up on borrowing a sensor. And I don't know anyone with a newer bike that I could just mess with for a day.

I'd spend a day pinging protocols if I could. I'm sure we could find something that works.
Title: Re: TPMS battery replacement by Fred Harmon
Post by: Big Red on November 19, 2022, 08:07:25 PM
FYI The Mazda Atenza uses a 433/434 Continental sensor. You might also try a Merc C class 07-14 which is a Schraeder sensor.