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Title: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 28, 2011, 01:55:01 PM
So, tomorow is the big day to find out which procedure I will have.  I have been struggling with a degenerative back problem (L4, 5) for the last few years, did all the PT, shots, and nerve cauterization, treatments aint working and I hate pain pills, robs me of the ability to do the things I love.
The surgery by itself isn't a pleasant thought, but the added responsibility of caring for my Alzheimers diagnosed father (Pappy) makes everything far worse.
I am not a biblically religious man, but I do believe in the power of prayer.  Say a word or two for strength.  I'm going to need it.  I am financialy sound and I ask that I hear no pity, life is good.

Thanks in advance,

Chet
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: roadie on September 28, 2011, 01:56:05 PM
Good Luck Chet, keep us posted on your progress brother.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on September 28, 2011, 01:57:15 PM
Chet,

I'll send a good thought or two along with a prayer your way.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: snarf on September 28, 2011, 02:00:00 PM
Brother; I will be on bended knee for you tonight
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: GVmerle on September 28, 2011, 02:29:06 PM
Prayers said Chet.  You have some trying time ahead of you.  Hope and pray it all works out well.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Cholla on September 28, 2011, 02:55:57 PM
I know of which you speak, I will probably need the same procedure someday. Keep the good attitude, our prayers are with you.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 28, 2011, 03:22:25 PM
Don't we all...  Good luck!
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on September 28, 2011, 04:12:58 PM
I wish you all the best Chet.  I will say a prayer for you tonight. Take care sir.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: gPink on September 28, 2011, 04:16:59 PM
Thoughts and prayers my friend.
Gary
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: sherob on September 28, 2011, 04:43:46 PM
Good luck to you!  I wish you the best!!!!!!

I am scheduled for a 4 level discogram (sounds so 80's, huh? :o ) next Tuesday to narrow down discs for my fusion.  They know L5/S1, possibly L5/L4... but I guess they are looking at L4/L3 and S1/S2 as well.  I am in the same boat as you, with 3D's.  I've done the injections... RF nerve burn... pills... TENS Unit... this is all that's left 

I'm supposed to have ALIF, coming in thru small 3-5 inch incision in the lower abdominal area on the right side.  The recovery time is supposed to be shorter for it than a TLIF/PLIF, I hope that's what you get an option for and that's what I would opt for. 

Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Pfloydgad on September 28, 2011, 04:55:55 PM
Chet,
If you are having your back scoped, you will do fine. I have had both a scoping and a cut job. I was pain free from the moment I woke up from both surgeries. The reason for the 2nd scope was for some scar tissue, no biggie at all, as a matter of fact, i wasn't even out for it, just a local.
Both times My re-hab was the neighbors hot tub after a week or so of Ice. When your lower back muscles get tired, they will cause more pain then the actual injury. A hot tub will help those puppies relax and reduce nerve tension pain.
I will also recommend lots of ICE for the first week or so. This is the only thing that will cut the normal swelling that happens after surgery.
After a couple of weeks, exercise, lite walking, then  more to build up endurance. Hopefully your Doctor has some type of Sports Medicine backround, the sports type recovery seems to be more effective for the long term .
Don't fret what you can't control, good luck, and we will see you on the road.
Ride safe all, ands please, ATGATT.
Greg
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: kdm on September 28, 2011, 05:00:50 PM
Done !  And best of luck. ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 28, 2011, 05:08:47 PM
Thanks to all, I'll share as I have info.  Keep them prayers coming!!

sherob, back atcha, maybe we can play virtual checkers during recovery :D

Greg, from what I've read I will be having the disk replacement, 20+ yrs of Army life wasnt all that kind.  I have an inversion table, hot tub, and lots of ice at my disposal, neighbor is a licensed masseuse and his wife is a physical therapist.  It has just come down to wore out bone and a coupla herniated disks.  I'd sure like to be scoped, I'd even do it under local, i hate being under, waking up just plains sucks. 
Thanks again, this virtual family is awesome!!!

Chet
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Leo on September 28, 2011, 05:42:29 PM
Knees bent, Prayers sent.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: booger on September 28, 2011, 07:23:08 PM
Chet,  your in luck.  I am a biblically religious man and also believe in the power of prayer.  You have a lots of good people here praying to get you through your surgery, including myself.

I'll say an extra one for you this evening.  Good luck with the surgery.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: stevewfl on September 28, 2011, 07:29:39 PM
Good luck with it, hope they have a plan and resolve it for you!
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Excavator on September 28, 2011, 07:34:51 PM
Chet, you can count on prayers from Arkansas. I hope for you to have a speedy recovery with little discomfort, good luck sir.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: B.D.F. on September 28, 2011, 08:54:58 PM
The very best of luck with your treatment Chet. Sorry to hear you need any treatment at all but I guess the good news is that treatment is avaliable. Let us know how it goes.

Brian

So, tomorow is the big day to find out which procedure I will have.  I have been struggling with a degenerative back problem (L4, 5) for the last few years, did all the PT, shots, and nerve cauterization, treatments aint working and I hate pain pills, robs me of the ability to do the things I love.
The surgery by itself isn't a pleasant thought, but the added responsibility of caring for my Alzheimers diagnosed father (Pappy) makes everything far worse.
I am not a biblically religious man, but I do believe in the power of prayer.  Say a word or two for strength.  I'm going to need it.  I am financialy sound and I ask that I hear no pity, life is good.

Thanks in advance,

Chet
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: koval68 on September 29, 2011, 11:32:42 AM
Good luck with your treatment Chet, I truly hope it is successful.
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"Keep your chin up. Don't take your troubles to bed with you - hang them on a chair with your trousers or drop them in a glass of water with your teeth."  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 29, 2011, 12:47:49 PM
Just returned from the office, the surgeon will be performing a lumbar lateral microdisectomy.  Amounts to a small incision, scope inserted, dremel inserted in scope, and ginding things to fit.  Not unlike working on a bike ;)  Recovery time is estimated at 6-8 weeks, havent had that much time off work since I was in High School, gonna be weird.  If I start posting up things about Jerry Springer or Oprah it's the drugs, honest ;)  I just hope he doesn't have a KiPASS activation switch failure mid grind ;D
The procedure will be either next week or the following week.  Guess I'll be the camp cookie this Elk season :'( 
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on September 29, 2011, 01:39:13 PM
Just returned from the office, the surgeon will be performing a lumbar lateral microdisectomy.  Amounts to a small incision, scope inserted, dremel inserted in scope, and ginding things to fit.  Not unlike working on a bike ;)  Recovery time is estimated at 6-8 weeks, havent had that much time off work since I was in High School, gonna be weird. If I start posting up things about Jerry Springer or Oprah it's the drugs, honest ;)  I just hope he doesn't have a KiPASS activation switch failure mid grind ;D
The procedure will be either next week or the following week.  Guess I'll be the camp cookie this Elk season :'(

Don't forget to get enough to share with the class.     8)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: sherob on September 29, 2011, 02:17:17 PM
Remember... anything you say to hot nurses can be blamed on meds.  ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: yoman on September 29, 2011, 02:40:36 PM
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Healing thoughts,
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Ron Dawg on September 29, 2011, 07:41:16 PM
You're covered from N.Ga, brother.

Net Flix picked a heckuva time to raise your rates. ;) Good luck.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: B.D.F. on September 29, 2011, 08:38:07 PM
Again, and regardless of the particular procedure, the very best of luck with the surgery, the recovery (from the surgery) and mostly, getting your back straightened out.

Brian

Just returned from the office, the surgeon will be performing a lumbar lateral microdisectomy.  Amounts to a small incision, scope inserted, dremel inserted in scope, and ginding things to fit.  Not unlike working on a bike ;)  Recovery time is estimated at 6-8 weeks, havent had that much time off work since I was in High School, gonna be weird.  If I start posting up things about Jerry Springer or Oprah it's the drugs, honest ;)  I just hope he doesn't have a KiPASS activation switch failure mid grind ;D
The procedure will be either next week or the following week.  Guess I'll be the camp cookie this Elk season :'(
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: lt1 on September 29, 2011, 09:35:31 PM
Best wishes.  Heal quickly.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Walker18 on September 29, 2011, 09:59:43 PM
Late reading your thread, Chet.. Prayers sent your way, God speed with the procedure and recovery. Pain-free is the focus, don't loose sight
of that throughout the following weeks.. And your brothers are here for you to accuse, abuse and amuse..
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Mal on September 30, 2011, 01:52:36 PM
Good luck Chet, may your recovery time be short and your healing complete!
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 05, 2011, 08:59:31 AM
Date with the Doc is set for next Wednesday the 12th.  Life really sucks right know, totally off all arthritus meds.  I can feel all my old injuries and I'm walking like a broken man. 
Thanks to all and keep them prayers and well wishes a comin!!
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: sherob on October 05, 2011, 09:09:07 AM
Will big guy... had my dance with Doc yesterday afternoon... did discogram of S1 thru L2 and CT scan of them as well... that was an experience.  I only have to get my L5/S1 fused, going off of the discogram, so far.  That was the only level they couldn't get a needle in, totally collapsed.

Now I get to met with the main knife guy to get it scheduled.

Good luck... happy thoughts and prayers still being sent your way.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 05, 2011, 09:28:22 AM
Prayers and best wishes back atcha!  Just got off the phone with the surgery nurse, she sounds hot and has a wonderfull sense of humor.  I'm gonna have me some fun ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 05, 2011, 11:28:03 AM
Prayers and best wishes back atcha!  Just got off the phone with the surgery nurse, she sounds hot and has a wonderfull sense of humor.  I'm gonna have me some fun ;D

Regaining consiousness after surgery with a hot nurse around is a bad combo.  Especially if your wife and parents are in the recovery room with you.  Don't ask me how I know...... ;D

I don't remember hardly any of it, but I guess I had them all rolling.  My wife didn't even hold it against me.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: sherob on October 05, 2011, 11:34:13 AM
Just got off the phone with the surgery nurse, she sounds hot and has a wonderfull sense of humor.  I'm gonna have me some fun ;D

... I don't remember a thing... I said that?  Must have been that fentanyl!   :o
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on October 05, 2011, 01:28:09 PM
Prayers and best wishes back atcha!  Just got off the phone with the surgery nurse, she sounds hot and has a wonderfull sense of humor.  I'm gonna have me some fun ;D

You had just better get those ideas right out of your head young man. Nurse Ratchet has something else in mind for your visit.

(http://www.oldgalproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/nurse-ratched2.jpg)
Time for your meds Chet
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: okxd45 on October 05, 2011, 03:24:57 PM
Chet, the wife and I have been in a lot of training.....so I missed your original post. Prayers sent for a speedy recovery as well! :)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Pfloydgad on October 05, 2011, 05:07:49 PM
Use video if you want some history of your wake-up call.
I only tell this, because it is funny.
In 1984 I had a radical dislocation of my left knee in a football game. It was pushed backwards, and slid up the back of my leg, nothing was left as far as ligiments or tendons, it was not good.
Long story short, after getting to a wake-up enough state to talk, I guess I went a little nuts. In my transport back to my room, my wife says that she could hear me coming well down the hall.
I called every person I saw a MF'r, over and over again.  :o
She said they were doing there best to keep me down on the cot. I tried to get up and go after the people rolling me along. A nurse came into the room and told the wife that I was a little upset.
She made a decision, she grabbed her coat and purse and got out of Dodge. Knowing me like she does, there was nothing she could do to get off this drug crazy rant.
So get the video out if you really want to know what happens.
Good luck buddy, you will do just fine.
Ride safe all, and ATGATT please.
Greg
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: booger on October 05, 2011, 06:05:54 PM
I called every person I saw a MF'r, over and over again.  :o

I found when I had my triple bypass that I evidentially did not tolerate morphin too well.  They had me in restraints until they got me weened off of it.  I don't think I was a pleasant person.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Excavator on October 05, 2011, 06:33:46 PM
I don't remember what I was on after surgery but I don't think I cursed anyone, I just laid there and smiled at everything.....took a trip and never left the hospital.

Be careful with those nurses Chet, some of em have a hairy back and really large hands.....usually the ones who give sponge baths.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: JetJock on October 06, 2011, 03:48:07 AM
Chet, will be thinking of you and pulling for you. You've got the right attitude towards life and it's not-so-little problems, and that counts for a lot when the medical community gets to play with you.

Hang tough!
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 12, 2011, 01:11:42 AM
at 0930 I'll be meeting my cute voiced nurse, I'll be on the table by 1100, procedure will be about an hour long, sew me up, wake me up, wipe the drool off of my face, tell me bho was impeached alongside Eric Holders dimissal, and all will be well with the world.  Oh well, doesnt hurt to dream.  All I am really interested in will be reduced back pain, and pain free sex.  Aint asking for much ;)

I want to thank everyone for their words, well wishes, and prayers.  Some of which have been answered, my father is up on the mountain with my buddy, so I will have a coupla weeks to recoupe before he returns.  The Lord works in strange ways indeed.  I'll post up first chance I get after the procedure.  I just finished my last meal before the procedure and dranks lots of water.  Gonna miss my morning cup of joe, food not so much.  I'm getting nervous, I had a bone spur removed from my ankle in '99, hurt like heck and took a long time to heal.  I am in high hopes my back does better.

Thanks again, be well,

Chet





Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Walker18 on October 12, 2011, 04:32:49 AM
It's amazing what our medical society can do today, compared to just ten years ago. The advancements are leaps and bounds instead of the crawling progress
that once was, so I'm betting on your surgeon and his team to perform the procedure with accuracy and minimum invasion as to allow you a quick and speedy recovery time.
Prayers will be with you today, and throughout your recovery. God bless, Chet!
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on October 12, 2011, 08:11:54 AM
at 0930 I'll be meeting my cute voiced nurse, I'll be on the table by 1100, procedure will be about an hour long, sew me up, wake me up, wipe the drool off of my face, tell me bho was impeached alongside Eric Holders dimissal, and all will be well with the world.  Oh well, doesnt hurt to dream.  All I am really interested in will be reduced back pain, and pain free sex.  Aint asking for much ;)

I want to thank everyone for their words, well wishes, and prayers.  Some of which have been answered, my father is up on the mountain with my buddy, so I will have a coupla weeks to recoupe before he returns.  The Lord works in strange ways indeed.  I'll post up first chance I get after the procedure.  I just finished my last meal before the procedure and dranks lots of water.  Gonna miss my morning cup of joe, food not so much.  I'm getting nervous, I had a bone spur removed from my ankle in '99, hurt like heck and took a long time to heal.  I am in high hopes my back does better.

Thanks again, be well,

Chet

Pain free sex? What fun is that?    ;)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 12, 2011, 05:15:28 PM
Pain free sex? What fun is that?    ;)
It's the pain after sex ;D

So, made it home.  Procedure went well, I think.  What to do for the next 3 weeks???

To our virtual family, a huge thank you.  I never felt nervous or concerned.  Power of prayer pulled me through, I had complete faith, so much so I was napping while waiting for the procedure to start.  Thank you, thank you, thank you.!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 12, 2011, 05:24:13 PM
Glad to hear that you are feeling good.  Hopefully the pain killers are sufficient enough to keep you comfortable.  Have fun and try to enjoy your time on the couch.  Take it from me, it can be hard to be laid up but you need to get well before you try to get out and get back to work.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on October 12, 2011, 06:13:01 PM
It's the pain after sex ;D

So, made it home.  Procedure went well, I think.  What to do for the next 3 weeks???

To our virtual family, a huge thank you.  I never felt nervous or concerned.  Power of prayer pulled me through, I had complete faith, so much so I was napping while waiting for the procedure to start.  Thank you, thank you, thank you.!!!!!!!!!

Good news! Take 'er easy Chet, catch up on your movies and read a book or two.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 12, 2011, 06:26:42 PM
Good news! Take 'er easy Chet, catch up on your movies and read a book or two.

I have a good one for you.  MARINE SNIPER by Charles Henderson.  It is the story of Carlos Hathcock and his 93 confirmed kills during the Vietnam War.  I don't read many books but this one was great since I can appreciate the talent that it takes to make accurate shots from long distances and to have so much self discipline that he went undetected for days with enemy soldiers all around.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: B.D.F. on October 12, 2011, 06:48:53 PM
Outstanding Chet! Glad to hear the surgery itself went well but to be honest, I expected that it would. The real test is to see how much better you do after fully recovering from the surgery itself and again, the very best of luck with that too.

A short but amusing and true story about anesthesia: A friend of mine went to have a tooth extracted many years ago when using sodium pentothal was fairly new (this was before I knew him). But as he thinks drugs do not really 'work' on people and it is just 'mind over matter', he cautions the dentist that he will not be rendered unconscious and to please be aware of this before beginning the procedure. The dentist says he understands and will pay very close attention to this gentleman's condition and will not under any circumstances treat him if (when?) he fails to become unconscious. So the guy is sitting in the chair, the I.V. is running and he is counting backwards from 100 <when suddenly> the dentist starts to lean over him and he screams 'I am not asleep!'. To which the dentist says 'schmuck' and holds up the tooth he already extracted from the guy. Hehehehe. That same guy tells a great vasectomy story but I will wait and tell that one when you are really bored.

Brian



It's the pain after sex ;D

So, made it home.  Procedure went well, I think.  What to do for the next 3 weeks???

To our virtual family, a huge thank you.  I never felt nervous or concerned.  Power of prayer pulled me through, I had complete faith, so much so I was napping while waiting for the procedure to start.  Thank you, thank you, thank you.!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 13, 2011, 04:23:43 AM
I have a good one for you.  MARINE SNIPER by Charles Henderson.  It is the story of Carlos Hathcock and his 93 confirmed kills during the Vietnam War.  I don't read many books but this one was great since I can appreciate the talent that it takes to make accurate shots from long distances and to have so much self discipline that he went undetected for days with enemy soldiers all around.

+bazillion  Great Book.  After I read it, I gave it to one of my Marine clients.  He loved it as well.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: okxd45 on October 13, 2011, 05:09:55 AM
Yep.....glad to hear all went well! Prayers for a speedy recovery. :)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: blue14 on October 13, 2011, 05:59:02 AM
It's the pain after sex ;D

Chet I think you went to the wrong kind of doctor for that. :rotflmao:

Get better.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 16, 2011, 09:10:09 AM
Quick update.  I'm entering the hardest part of the recovery.  After reading Jettin Jims (JJ) saga and his plate removal I had an epiphany, he hit the nail on the head in referance to pain and what it represents.  I stopped taking mine (pain meds).  It is apparent to me that a mind clouded by drugs is less sharp then a mind filled with pain.  I find it easier to have a routine and am far less moody.  My biggest hurdle will be doing nothing for the next 2 1/2 weeks, it will be a new perspective for sure.  I guess I will be doing reloading type stuff, polishing brass and sorting things out, not sure if I am ready for the press yet.  I will be starting a walking routine, I already have my route selected as well as a goal.  Tomorow is gonna be like heaven----I get to take a shower, hot, soothing water, and lots of soap, oh the joy that awaits me (my wife said I stink, if she had smelled BDF she wouldnt be so concerned).

A special thanks to JJ, great inspiration.
To the rest of our virtual family, thanks from the bottom of my heart.

PS, Doc said no sex for 3 weeks, gotta wait 2 weeks, 2 days, and 4 hours to see how effective the procedure was ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: blue14 on October 18, 2011, 07:25:54 AM
How is Chet doing?
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 18, 2011, 07:30:28 AM
This couch sucks!  Gonna go out to the shop today and sort some brass and setup to do some reloading, got me a batch of fresh brass from Leo that is just begging for primers, powder and lead ;D  I guess you could say I'm playing with precious metals.
Been off the pain pills for a few days, clear mind and constant reminders to take it easy.  I dont know who's taking this harder, me or the dog.  He has such a bored look on his face :(
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on October 18, 2011, 08:38:27 AM
This couch sucks!  Gonna go out to the shop today and sort some brass and setup to do some reloading, got me a batch of fresh brass from Leo that is just begging for primers, powder and lead ;D  I guess you could say I'm playing with precious metals.
Been off the pain pills for a few days, clear mind and constant reminders to take it easy.  I dont know who's taking this harder, me or the dog.  He has such a bored look on his face :(

He wants to go for a walk Chet.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 18, 2011, 08:42:11 AM
He wants to go for a walk Chet.
Too funny, we just got back, he was living the high life, chased a rabbit and said howdy to a neighbors beagle ;D  I'd let him stay out but he wont let me out of his sight.  Dogs, mans best friend.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on October 18, 2011, 08:49:15 AM
Too funny, we just got back, he was living the high life, chased a rabbit and said howdy to a neighbors beagle ;D  I'd let him stay out but he wont let me out of his sight.  Dogs, mans best friend.

You got that right, there ain't nothing in the world like a good dog.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: gPink on October 18, 2011, 08:52:55 AM
The secret of life...A good dog, a lot of money, live next to a whorehouse.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: B.D.F. on October 18, 2011, 09:05:49 AM
Yeah but I had America all over me, what is your excuse? You have been lying on the couch....

You must have a 'sex countdown' timer running, huh? Boy is the mailman going to be surprised if that thing goes off while he is delivering at your house, and then he is going to be late for the entire rest of his route....

(http://zggtr.org/Smileys/default/ROTFLMAO.gif)  (http://zggtr.org/Smileys/default/ROTFLMAO.gif)

Brian


<snip>

Tomorow is gonna be like heaven----I get to take a shower, hot, soothing water, and lots of soap, oh the joy that awaits me (my wife said I stink, if she had smelled BDF she wouldnt be so concerned).

A special thanks to JJ, great inspiration.
To the rest of our virtual family, thanks from the bottom of my heart.

PS, Doc said no sex for 3 weeks, gotta wait 2 weeks, 2 days, and 4 hours to see how effective the procedure was ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 18, 2011, 09:29:35 AM
Yeah but I had America all over me, what is your excuse? You have been lying on the couch....

You must have a 'sex countdown' timer running, huh? Boy is the mailman going to be surprised if that thing goes off while he is delivering at your house, and then he is going to be late for the entire rest of his route....

(http://zggtr.org/Smileys/default/ROTFLMAO.gif)  (http://zggtr.org/Smileys/default/ROTFLMAO.gif)

Brian
mailbox is down the street, so the mail lady is safe (and kinda homely).  Sex is sooooo overated anyway.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 18, 2011, 09:32:39 AM
mailbox is down the street, so the mail lady is safe (and kinda homely).  Sex is sooooo overated anyway.

Keep tellin' yerself that.  It might eventually take hold ..................errrr, not a chance.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on October 18, 2011, 09:37:03 AM
mailbox is down the street, so the mail lady is safe (and kinda homely).  Sex is sooooo overated anyway.

Go ahead and tell your wife that, see how much you get after that conversation.  :o
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 18, 2011, 09:47:08 AM
Go ahead and tell your wife that, see how much you get after that conversation.  :o
Heck, I married an almost perfect woman, she aint into spending, puts up with me, and has the heart of a nympho ;D  If only she liked hunting as much as I do, there's also that thing below her nose, it makes this horrific sound most times 8)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on October 18, 2011, 09:53:44 AM
Heck, I married an almost perfect woman, she aint into spending, puts up with me, and has the heart of a nympho ;D  If only she liked hunting as much as I do, there's also that thing below her nose, it makes this horrific sound most times 8)

The heart of a nympho? I was thinking of another body part...

And that thing below her nose, besides making noise it can serve other functions as well.    :-*
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 18, 2011, 09:55:10 AM
And what would that be :)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on October 18, 2011, 10:50:00 AM
And what would that be :)

Well, if I have to spell it out for you.

There's that certain thing that ALL men love and it can only be done with a mouth.





Eating.

What did you think I meant?   ;)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: blue14 on October 18, 2011, 03:56:18 PM
Heck, I married an almost perfect woman, she aint into spending, puts up with me, and has the heart of a nympho ;D  If only she liked hunting as much as I do, there's also that thing below her nose, it makes this horrific sound most times 8)

Go ahead Chet, show her this one.  You wont be worrying about your countdown clock there will be no need of it. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 18, 2011, 05:36:13 PM
Go ahead Chet, show her this one.  You wont be worrying about your countdown clock there will be no need of it. :thumbs:
And you QFTd me :o  Musta been the drugs ;)  Thats my story and I'm stickin to it 8)

Today has really sucked, who made a 48 hour day?  Did some more walking, started to setup the reloading bench and decided not to.  I sure as heck hope the next 2 weeks aint like today.  I'm still shying away from the meds (Shhhhhh), I want this time as a reminder to take better care of my body, start treating it like a temple and less like a dirt bike. 
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: blue14 on October 18, 2011, 06:03:11 PM
Tomorrow will be better should be like 46 or so hours......
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 19, 2011, 12:01:29 PM
Broke down last night, took some pain pills, friggin nerves are going all bonkers, pain was worst---on my left big toe, worked its way to the top of my foot, to make matters worse, for some reason my feet felt like they are freezing.  No fever, walking as much as I can to keep the blood pumping.  Gonna be a much longer recovery than I anticipated.......I need to have my son hide my bikes, I soooooooo wanna go for a ride, sun is out temps are mid 50s, perfect riding weather, and I'm stuck at home.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: blue14 on October 19, 2011, 12:09:32 PM
Hang in....a couple more days and things will get lots better 8)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 19, 2011, 12:25:09 PM
I don't like taking pills either but I also don't want to feel the carnage of what was performed either.  Hang in there Chet, maybe we can be pen pals or do some skyping once I get laid up after my surgery in a couple weeks.  Hopefully you will be off and running by that time though.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 19, 2011, 12:55:41 PM
Hopefully in a coupla weeks I'll be wrist deep in a TB swap.  I'm also looking to paint my KLR, gonna be an original, maybe the new digi pattern, leaning toward more sand.  We'll be in touch for sure.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 19, 2011, 03:57:40 PM
Well just spent better then 30 minutes on the phone with the clinic.  Basicly got told they gave me drugs for a reason.  I have an extreme phobia to addiction, which I explained to them, they explained the regimen I will be following, it does the wheening as a matter of course.  They also explained just how much was removed from my spine, I really had no idea, thought it was some minor trim.  So it's back on meds I go.  I also asked just how long until I could expect to go back to work, based on what I do (weapons instructor/evaluator for our weapons maintainers on Ft Lewis).  3 months at the earliest, I have an under 5 pounds limit for the next 2 weeks, then work up to 20 pounds till the middle of January.  No exceptions.  Figure the weight of an M2 or better yet, a MK19 vastly exceeds those limits.  I am so screwed :(  What I think I will do once able is a bunch of volunteer work down at our local VA hospital, I'm a good listener.  I'll also do some work for the motorcycle safety org I work for on the side, work the phones, little stuff to keep me busy.
Any model hobbyists out there?  Any good links to model kits, cars and MCs would be what I would like to build.  Any other ideas on how to stay active without being too physical?

Helpless in Port Orchard, WA  (Dear Abby humor)

Chet
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: B.D.F. on October 19, 2011, 05:24:57 PM
Just my opinion but take the drugs Chet- they really do more good than harm. All of the ink (press) about drugs is negative because nobody would bother printing a story about someone taking a recommended drug, benefiting from it and then moving on with life.... which is exactly what most people really do. Unless you have an addictive personality, and that would almost certainly be obvious to you by now, I doubt you will become dependant on any chemical. Even if you were to become mildly dependant (not addicted, that is something different), the taper- off part will wean you off with less discomfort than trying to suffer through the surgery pain.

Again, just my opinion and I am not a medical professional.

No experience with static models as an adult but they look like they would be more frustrating than calming.

Brian



Well just spent better then 30 minutes on the phone with the clinic.  Basicly got told they gave me drugs for a reason.  I have an extreme phobia to addiction, which I explained to them, they explained the regimen I will be following, it does the wheening as a matter of course. 

<snip>

Any model hobbyists out there?  Any good links to model kits, cars and MCs would be what I would like to build.  Any other ideas on how to stay active without being too physical?

Helpless in Port Orchard, WA  (Dear Abby humor)

Chet
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 19, 2011, 06:09:29 PM
Thanks Brian, I'll be following the DRs advice fer sure.  I hate being in a cloud, kinda like riding in fog. 
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: blue14 on October 19, 2011, 07:21:16 PM
So Chet this surgery has made you Semi- Spineless?

Sorry couldn't resist...................
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: AZBiker on October 19, 2011, 07:25:11 PM
Tamiya makes the best models, IMHO, but they are pretty proud of them too.  I don't know if there's anybody else that makes m/c models either.

What kind of reloader do you have?  I want a Dillon 550, gotta support the locals.

As far as the drugs go, don't take enough to get rid of all the pain, just most of it.  Worked for me anyway, and I have the same phobia as you.

Most drugs that our gov discourages us from using via LE are like children's Tylenol compared to medical-grade narcotics.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 19, 2011, 08:38:43 PM
Tamiya makes the best models, IMHO, but they are pretty proud of them too.  I don't know if there's anybody else that makes m/c models either.

What kind of reloader do you have?  I want a Dillon 550, gotta support the locals.

As far as the drugs go, don't take enough to get rid of all the pain, just most of it.  Worked for me anyway, and I have the same phobia as you.

Most drugs that our gov discourages us from using via LE are like children's Tylenol compared to medical-grade narcotics.
Tamiya, eh?  I'll be looking them up, I'd really like a C14, but that may be pushing it.  As luck would have, I have the Dillon 550, been using it since 97ish, I've loaded everything from .22 Hornet, up through .338.  Dillon has lived up to their name, best warranty out there.  I like their monthly Blue Press mag, guns and purty gurls!!!!!!!!!
So Chet this surgery has made you Semi- Spineless?

Sorry couldn't resist...................
Welllllllllll ;D  At least it should work better then when it was whole, I'll take %90 of %95 over %50 of %100 anyday.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: AZBiker on October 19, 2011, 09:28:52 PM
Tamiya, eh?  I'll be looking them up, I'd really like a C14, but that may be pushing it.  As luck would have, I have the Dillon 550, been using it since 97ish, I've loaded everything from .22 Hornet, up through .338.  Dillon has lived up to their name, best warranty out there.  I like their monthly Blue Press mag, guns and purty gurls!!!!!!!!!Welllllllllll ;D  At least it should work better then when it was whole, I'll take %90 of %95 over %50 of %100 anyday.

Well if you're ever in AZ then you can see where your 550 was born--Snottsdale, AZ.   ;)
Back in the day, I lived in a guest house in downtown Phoenix & the owners were friends with Mike Dillon. 
They got to go up in his Huey and play with the M134.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jettn Jim on October 19, 2011, 10:58:07 PM
oooh boy... I don't know if I wanna jump in this conversation.... Not the biggest fan of prescription DRUGS! Mostly crap that mimics things found in nature.  Only to be tak'n in the most severe circumstance when you absolutely can't function...which is alot further down the road than most feeble minded folk would like to admit.
The body's amazing at healing itself if you'll talk to it and come to a peaceful agreement.  ;D
JJ
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 19, 2011, 11:23:50 PM
Jim, did you get my PM?
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on October 20, 2011, 04:56:10 AM
Well just spent better then 30 minutes on the phone with the clinic.  Basicly got told they gave me drugs for a reason.  I have an extreme phobia to addiction, which I explained to them, they explained the regimen I will be following, it does the wheening as a matter of course.  They also explained just how much was removed from my spine, I really had no idea, thought it was some minor trim.  So it's back on meds I go.  I also asked just how long until I could expect to go back to work, based on what I do (weapons instructor/evaluator for our weapons maintainers on Ft Lewis).  3 months at the earliest, I have an under 5 pounds limit for the next 2 weeks, then work up to 20 pounds till the middle of January.  No exceptions.  Figure the weight of an M2 or better yet, a MK19 vastly exceeds those limits.  I am so screwed :(  What I think I will do once able is a bunch of volunteer work down at our local VA hospital, I'm a good listener.  I'll also do some work for the motorcycle safety org I work for on the side, work the phones, little stuff to keep me busy.
Any model hobbyists out there?  Any good links to model kits, cars and MCs would be what I would like to build.  Any other ideas on how to stay active without being too physical?

Helpless in Port Orchard, WA  (Dear Abby humor)

Chet

I'll drink to that!    :chugbeer:

How's about a nice R/C helicopter? They're fun and should keep you busy while you heal up.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: sherob on October 20, 2011, 07:00:42 AM
I don't like to take them either.  My wife is a RN, a Certified Diabetes Educater as well.  She gets pretty PO'ed at me if I don't take them to control the pain... keep it under control... as she says, it's easier to manage pain before it gets out of control.

If I complain about something, I better not say anything about not taking the meds prescribed or I'm in for it.

Glad to see you're up and about.  Don't overdue anything... take your time.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jettn Jim on October 20, 2011, 08:08:22 AM
Yup just read it now SOP I'll PM ya back.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 20, 2011, 10:37:33 AM
I'll drink to that!    :chugbeer:

How's about a nice R/C helicopter? They're fun and should keep you busy while you heal up.
I'll look into that as well, I have a buddy that is into most things RC.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on October 20, 2011, 11:26:32 AM
I'll look into that as well, I have a buddy that is into most things RC.

Chet,

I just got a e-mail about this, check it out.

http://www.e-fliterc.com/Airplanes/AS3X/ (http://www.e-fliterc.com/Airplanes/AS3X/)

Look at the UMX Hyper Taxi, http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=EFLU4780 (http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=EFLU4780)

That thing looks like some real fun!

Here's another, http://www.bladehelis.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=BLH3200 (http://www.bladehelis.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=BLH3200)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: B.D.F. on October 21, 2011, 04:29:36 PM
That is a fantastic idea Conrad.

Now if only Chet had a version of Kirby he could strap the little guy to the helicopter and fly him around the neighborhood. That could be fantastic near Halloween....

Brian


I'll drink to that!    :chugbeer:

How's about a nice R/C helicopter? They're fun and should keep you busy while you heal up.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on October 22, 2011, 06:52:50 AM
That is a fantastic idea Conrad.

Now if only Chet had a version of Kirby he could strap the little guy to the helicopter and fly him around the neighborhood. That could be fantastic near Halloween....

Brian

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 22, 2011, 10:52:40 AM
That is a fantastic idea Conrad.

Now if only Chet had a version of Kirby he could strap the little guy to the helicopter and fly him around the neighborhood. That could be fantastic near Halloween....

Brian
I do have quite a few of Kirbys living relatives that hang around, and we do have afew "Flying" squirals ;D  Add the Contour HD to document their travels
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 27, 2011, 10:26:27 PM
Saw the doc today, I've been cleared t lift 10-15 pounds and best of all, I can go on my annual elk hunting trip, I'll be restricted to the roads, but I'll take it.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jettn Jim on October 27, 2011, 11:08:18 PM
Saw the doc today, I've been cleared t lift 10-15 pounds and best of all, I can go on my annual elk hunting trip, I'll be restricted to the roads, but I'll take it.
   :thumbs: :hail: :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 28, 2011, 05:56:19 AM
That is great Chet.  Glad to hear that you will be able to hunt. 

Elk jerky is great, I keep telling my dad that we need to go so I can eat an elk steak.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Ron Dawg on October 28, 2011, 04:10:47 PM
Congratulations!! It's amazing how good that feels! But take it easy.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 28, 2011, 05:32:06 PM
Today has been great!!!!  Other then anti inflamatories I've gutted it out, really reminds me to take it easy.  Drove around today, bought a new P&S camera (Fuji DP20, waterproof, durable for hunting and rides), visited with an old buddy, and even vacumed the house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

All the prayers and well wishes surely helped me through the tougher times, Pappy is doing well and it's getting easier everyday helping him out.  I owe a tremendous dept to all, this Forum kicks you know what.  Hopefully over the next few years I'll get to share some rides or host a few guests, I do live on 2 differant lakes ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: AZBiker on October 28, 2011, 06:57:12 PM
Glad you're feeling better.  Does WA have a lottery for Elk tags?
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: B.D.F. on October 28, 2011, 07:34:28 PM
Oh no Chet, it sounds like you may have taken some pain pills instead of the drugs you <thought> you were taking. I have had some really good days too but never had the urge to vacuum anything....

Glad to hear you are doing better. Just stay away from the appliances .... or at least don't tell us about it if you do use that thing.

Brian

Today has been great!!!!  Other then anti inflamatories I've gutted it out....<snip>.... and even vacumed the house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: okxd45 on October 28, 2011, 08:41:54 PM
Good to hear you're doing well.  God is good! :)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: blue14 on October 29, 2011, 04:48:31 AM
We want the details on your "OTHER" post surgical goal 8)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: B.D.F. on October 29, 2011, 03:14:28 PM
We have not heard from Chet for something like 24 hours.... maybe the 'other' goal is working out beyond his wildest dreams? Somebody get a bucket of water and meet me at Chet's house....

 ;D

Brian

We want the details on your "OTHER" post surgical goal 8)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 29, 2011, 03:37:18 PM
We have not heard from Chet for something like 24 hours.... maybe the 'other' goal is working out beyond his wildest dreams? Somebody get a bucket of water and meet me at Chet's house....

 ;D

Brian

Dog's knot perhaps?   ;D

I'll bet he is pushing his 15 lb limit and having a blast doing it. 
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: B.D.F. on October 29, 2011, 04:00:24 PM
Well let's just hope he doesn't make too much noise and get caught by his wife....

 ;D

Brian

Dog's knot perhaps?   ;D

I'll bet he is pushing his 15 lb limit and having a blast doing it.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 30, 2011, 11:00:05 AM
We want the details on your "OTHER" post surgical goal 8)
TWO MORE DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I aint "Screwing" this up and putting it bluntly screwing would be the worst thing for my back.  I leave for Elk camp Wednesday, kids are all gone, Pappy goes to bed early, and the hot tub is nice and toasty ;D  Spent yesterday buttering the wife up, took her to the casino, which she loves and then some cuddle time watching a couple movies (bad teacher and Zoo Keeper), these next two days may prove to be the roughest yet ;)  Since I'll be leaving early Wed. and I wont be in a location for cell or net y'all will just have to wait for all the intimate details 8)
Every time I go next door I walk past the 14 and KLR I just drool, I had planned to take the KLR hunting, heated grips, nice quiet pipe (Q4), GMRS radio setup with throat mike, and some of the great Pirelli DOT knobbies ;D  Oh well, next year.
This is probably the last year Pappy will actually go hunting, I have made a special firing pin for Pappy, we dont want any accidents, his Alzheimers has got to that point, he has enough old memory that he knows his rifle needs to be loaded, but is likely to forget to check his safety, so I shortened it enough to not hit the primer, I'll be with him the entire time so it wont be a missed opportunity should a elk show uo.  Burns the heart but it is the right thing to do for all.  Hunting has been a part of my life as long as I remember, Pappy was there for my first Elk (actually all of them), my first legal deer, and then this year he spotted the bear my buddy got.  Each of those moments he was happier then any animal he ever took and the ones he still remembers.  It was an old Tote Goat that started me on the addiction to two wheels, then an old 2 stroke Benneli, a trail 90, which I still have BTW, and then an XT250, which I still also have.  It is his loyalty to friends and family that gave me the values I have to day.  I could go on and on about the great things he shared, but I aint ready to write a book.

Back to the funny stuff, I'm hornier then a halk F'd fox in a forrest fire and a three peckered billy goat.  Gonna be a hot night Tuesday :P
Well let's just hope he doesn't make too much noise and get caught by his wife....

 ;D

Brian

Wife spiked the vasoline with sand and fiberglass >:(
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 30, 2011, 11:13:09 AM
Good luck with the elk hunt, I really don't look forward to my parents growing old, but I guess it is unavoidable.  That is really nice that you are letting him participate in everything but also keeping his safety and others around him in the forefront.  I'm sure that is a tough tightrope to walk.  Have fun and make sure you take it easy so that you can enjoy "date night" with your wife after the hunting trip.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jettn Jim on October 30, 2011, 11:25:21 AM
That was a GREAT post there Chet... You and I are alot alike with reguards to the Pappy's in our lives...aaand I started out with a Tote Goat too...  maaaan I haven't heard that term for a while!
Peace and good luck Brother
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: B.D.F. on October 30, 2011, 07:16:13 PM
Glad to hear you are doing well Chet. Best of luck with all your hunting.

Brian

TWO MORE DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<snip>

Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 30, 2011, 10:34:20 PM
Glad to hear you are doing well Chet. Best of luck with all your hunting.

Brian
Got her spotted, season opens Tue. at 6PH, first tag will be a minute or less, second tags gonna take quite a bit longer ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on October 31, 2011, 04:44:37 AM
Nice post indeed Chet.

You watched Zoo Keeper with the wife? From what I've seen of the previews, that 2 hours or so might have been as bad as not being able to ride your bike...
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: blue14 on October 31, 2011, 06:37:29 AM
Clear signs Chet is on the mend 8)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 31, 2011, 08:41:18 AM
Nice post indeed Chet.

You watched Zoo Keeper with the wife? From what I've seen of the previews, that 2 hours or so might have been as bad not being able to ride your bike...
I did get a chuckle or two, but Bad Teacher?  I never though a dry humping scene could be a turn on ;)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: B.D.F. on October 31, 2011, 06:38:57 PM
 ;D

Let's just hope you don't suffer from a defective firing pin like you mentioned earlier....

Brian

Got her spotted, season opens Tue. at 6PH, first tag will be a minute or less, second tags gonna take quite a bit longer ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 31, 2011, 10:53:37 PM
Quick update, piping is clean ;D ;D ;D  I'm leaving early tomorow morning, Pappys dentist appointment got changed to today, got his haircut, and all his clothes packed and ready to go.  The dentist kept his uppers, we came home and he was all in a panic trying to find em.  Had to re explain where they were and why.  Ten minutes later he asks again, I told him our buddy Richard had them ;D  If he could remember anything longer then 5 minutes I wouldnt have done that, I got the death look from my wife which made me chuckle.  5 minutes later, he asked again, this time I saw the fire ahead of time and told him the truth.  Next thing he did was pack his ditty bag, ready to go, I explained when we were leaving, and this cycle is repeated almost hourly.  Ask him about High School and he can ramble on for hours, ask him about fishing the Kalama, he'll give you detailed instructions on how to bait the hooks, where to place the cast and how to monitor the line as it drifts down stream.  Alzheimers is a wicked desease, I've learned to cope with it most times, but sometimes I remember the man he used to be and cant help but get choked up.  I'm avoiding a home for as long as possible, but I fear I may have no choice. 
Keep sharing them prayers, who knows how much help I need.

Thanks to all, I'll be back in a coupla weeks, keep Jeremy occupied, all our banter has really helped me and the energy from the prayers has been well received.

Chet
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jettn Jim on November 01, 2011, 07:13:01 AM
Hey Chet the wife and I took care of an old boy with alzheimers for the last years of his (like a father to us) and I promised him he'd never go in a home... Held his hand while he took his last breath last August after flying home from my Alaska ride to see him off.  We ended up getting a helper during the day while we we're at work then we'd take care from dinner till the next morning... it's a good thing your doing and what indigenous people heve done for centuries... and what we used to do to.  Very uncaring the way our rushed culture deals with our elders.  So man good on you for returning the love to Pappy.  :hail:
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: okxd45 on November 02, 2011, 10:07:25 AM
I can only imagine how tough it must be to see your Dad go through those changes caused by the disease.  That could be any one of us some day. Stay strong and know that you are in our prayers!
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: graham downunder on November 02, 2011, 12:39:15 PM
Great to hear your back is better and got away with pappy.I realy think you are doing a wonderfull thing looking after your dad sorry he has lost all of his memory .
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on November 15, 2011, 11:55:32 PM
See my post about leaving the synthetic world.  We're gonna start with the visiting Angels for a few hours a day. 

My back is getting better, walked about 4-6 miles a day, and did most of the camp chores.  Only thing that sucked was my bed.  I also saw the true power of a friend.  Words alone will never demonstrate the depth of our friendship.

The prayers and words of encouragement are helping, please dont stop, I need every bit of help I can get.  Once we are done butchering up the 2 elk I will be starting a graduated workout routine and lose the 6 pounds I gained while hunting.  We ate good!!!!!!!!!!!!  I make the best biscuits and gravy known to man........

As a side note,,,,sex aint so good on the back :'(  Still pain med free.

Thanks to everyone, I'm sending prayers back for health and prosperity of life.

Chet
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: blue14 on November 16, 2011, 03:23:59 AM

As a side note,,,,sex aint so good on the back :'(  Still pain med free.

Thanks to everyone, I'm sending prayers back for health and prosperity of life.

Chet

Let her do the work...................
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: gPink on November 16, 2011, 03:48:56 AM
Good to hear from you SOP.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on November 16, 2011, 07:11:44 AM
Glad to hear that you had a productive hunt and got to spend quality time with those that matter most to you.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jettn Jim on November 16, 2011, 05:57:41 PM
See my post about leaving the synthetic world.  We're gonna start with the visiting Angels for a few hours a day. 

My back is getting better, walked about 4-6 miles a day, and did most of the camp chores.  Only thing that sucked was my bed.  I also saw the true power of a friend.  Words alone will never demonstrate the depth of our friendship.

The prayers and words of encouragement are helping, please dont stop, I need every bit of help I can get.  Once we are done butchering up the 2 elk I will be starting a graduated workout routine and lose the 6 pounds I gained while hunting.  We ate good!!!!!!!!!!!!  I make the best biscuits and gravy known to man........

As a side note,,,,sex aint so good on the back :'(  Still pain med free.

Thanks to everyone, I'm sending prayers back for health and prosperity of life.

Chet
Still pain med free.
WooHoo! :chugbeer: And congrats on all the success! :thumbs:
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Excavator on November 16, 2011, 08:53:34 PM
Good to hear you're getting better, congrats on bagging a nice elk.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on January 05, 2012, 12:10:53 AM
So, I'll open up with what I was aking help for, Pappy seems to be getting worse, this weather isnt helping any, but even simple chores he's done since childhood are escaping him or easily confusing him.  What I need now is the mental strength to continue the fight, my back is healing nicely, seeing the physical therapist, man are my muscles sore!  I start 5 days a week next week, I really need to get back to work, losing %40 of my pay is putting a damper on my retirement home and now that the holliday season is over I'm needed back at work.

Please pray for me and my father, we both need help,

Chet
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Walker18 on January 05, 2012, 12:42:56 AM
We are here for you, Chet. Being the caregiver during the advanced times in your loved one's life is difficult, yet nesessary.
Demanding care without any rewards of improvment is the single defeating result that makes one raise their hands in surrender.
Stay strong, Chet. Prayers sent for you and your Dad.
I'm sure that you have exhausted all avenues in the alzheimer's care field, but just in case, and I don't know where in Washington state you are..
http://www.carewashington.org/list02_wa_Alzheimers_facilities.htm (http://www.carewashington.org/list02_wa_Alzheimers_facilities.htm)
Daycare could be a blessing for the both of you.
God bless

Jim
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: graham downunder on January 05, 2012, 03:13:37 AM
I am sorry to hear about your Dad I posted last on the 2 of November about you and your dad. I lost my Dad 5 days latter on the 7 th after a 3 @1/2 week battle in Hospital .I will be praying for you and you dad , remember he loved you with all his heart and still loves you ,forgive him for anything you hold against him, forgive him as he has forgiven you,love him and your family .Do your best ,for that is all he would want you to do ,just remember no one is perfect .Remember pray for him yourself and have some quite time with God  .
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on January 05, 2012, 04:52:30 AM
You got it Chet.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: okxd45 on January 05, 2012, 07:16:11 AM
Prayers sent.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: connie_rider on January 05, 2012, 08:36:39 AM
Chet, I send this info as it may useful to you.

I'm taking care of my Aunt (who is dealing with Alteimers).
We had her in a large Assisted Living Facility here in Houston. Didn't work out as it was too big and she did not receive the personal attention that we wanted for her.
Last year we located and moved her to a private Home with only 5 other people living there.
Has worked out GREAT. She gets the personal attention, we can go by and see her more often, we get phone calls if there is ever any problems concerns.

You and Pappy are in our prayers. Keep us posted.

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on January 05, 2012, 09:14:58 AM
I am sorry to hear about your Dad I posted last on the 2 of November about you and your dad. I lost my Dad 5 days latter on the 7 th after a 3 @1/2 week battle in Hospital .I will be praying for you and you dad , remember he loved you with all his heart and still loves you ,forgive him for anything you hold against him, forgive him as he has forgiven you,love him and your family .Do your best ,for that is all he would want you to do ,just remember no one is perfect .Remember pray for him yourself and have some quite time with God  .
If only I had something to forgive him for.  I am sorry for your loss and dread the day I lose my father.  He has been the best of fathers and I owe him so much.

We are here for you, Chet. Being the caregiver during the advanced times in your loved one's life is difficult, yet nesessary.
Demanding care without any rewards of improvment is the single defeating result that makes one raise their hands in surrender.
Stay strong, Chet. Prayers sent for you and your Dad.
I'm sure that you have exhausted all avenues in the alzheimer's care field, but just in case, and I don't know where in Washington state you are..
http://www.carewashington.org/list02_wa_Alzheimers_facilities.htm (http://www.carewashington.org/list02_wa_Alzheimers_facilities.htm)
Daycare could be a blessing for the both of you.
God bless

Jim
Thanks Jim, I didnt have that site, it is bookmarked for future use.  One thing I can't/won't do is place him in a home, it would be a one way ticket for him.  I will use their resources to see what they can offer as help from a wiser strategic way of thinking and planning.  I live next door to him, we have a well worn path that leads from his back door to my front door.  We walk past a tree that was just a sapling when I was a kid, it started on the backside of my dogshouse (Penny).  That tree is approaching 6 feet thick and is a daily reminder of my youth and everything my father did for me.  He still walks his property and looks at everything we have built.  To remove him from that would be pure thievery.  His basement is filled with antlers from many memorable hunts, plenty of old tools from his father and relatives long since past.  His upstairs has many simple things, items like the naval shells that his father filled with lead shot and tapped out some intricate designs, emptied, polished and turned into a lamp.  There is no way any of these could ever be replicated.  And the love.  It is a privelage to be his trusted son, never a chore.  I am blessed to have such a wonderfull mentor.

To everyone else a simple yet heartfelt thank you.

Chet
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on January 05, 2012, 11:32:59 AM
Sorry to hear about this turn for the worse with your father.  It sounded like he was doing well during hunting season, I understand how quickly things can change with elder, loved ones.  I'm sure you will make the best choice in the interest of your father.  Take care and I will be thinking about your family.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: B.D.F. on January 05, 2012, 03:54:58 PM
Sorry to hear this Chet, and the very best in getting through this difficult time.

Brian


So, I'll open up with what I was aking help for, Pappy seems to be getting worse, this weather isnt helping any, but even simple chores he's done since childhood are escaping him or easily confusing him.  What I need now is the mental strength to continue the fight, my back is healing nicely, seeing the physical therapist, man are my muscles sore!  I start 5 days a week next week, I really need to get back to work, losing %40 of my pay is putting a damper on my retirement home and now that the holliday season is over I'm needed back at work.

Please pray for me and my father, we both need help,

Chet
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on January 05, 2012, 04:02:50 PM
Jeremy, Brian, Thanks a bunch.  I'm holding out hope that nicer weather will help brighten him up.  Outdoor activities seem to put a spark back in his furnace.  The blue skies today have him much better, I have him hauling in some wood, he really likes driving the side by side.  I sure hope he doesn't decide to take it out on the road after some icecream sandwiches ;)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Uglydog56 on January 05, 2012, 09:53:41 PM
My father has dementia and it's a tough thing to watch.  We made the decision to put him in a home last fall because he was forgetting meds or doubling up, and getting combative.  I feel for you.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Walker18 on January 05, 2012, 09:59:57 PM
Thanks Jim, I didn't have that site, it is bookmarked for future use.  One thing I can't/won't do is place him in a home, it would be a one way ticket for him.  I will use their resources to see what they can offer as help from a wiser strategic way of thinking and planning.  I live next door to him, we have a well worn path that leads from his back door to my front door.  We walk past a tree that was just a sapling when I was a kid, it started on the backside of my dogshouse (Penny).  That tree is approaching 6 feet thick and is a daily reminder of my youth and everything my father did for me.  He still walks his property and looks at everything we have built.  To remove him from that would be pure thievery.  His basement is filled with antlers from many memorable hunts, plenty of old tools from his father and relatives long since past.  His upstairs has many simple things, items like the naval shells that his father filled with lead shot and tapped out some intricate designs, emptied, polished and turned into a lamp.  There is no way any of these could ever be replicated.  And the love.  It is a privilege to be his trusted son, never a chore.  I am blessed to have such a wonderfull mentor.

Chet, sorry I didn't make myself clearer, (night shift will do that), I was only suggesting Day Care facilities that could provide daily care for your Dad while you
and your wife perform your daily chores/work/responsibilities. I believe this would be a benefit for all of you, being that mental and physical exercises are
provided for your Dad daily.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on January 05, 2012, 11:51:30 PM
Jim I sure wasn't questioning your reason, I was feeling very down yesterday and I needed all the help I received.  I was trying to paint a visual to help others understand why a home isn't an option for Pappy.  He was led to believe that a recovery home after his bypass would be the best thing for him.  He hated every moment he was there, we did far more for him than the home did.  He demanded to be released but was told by law he couldnt leave without a DRs consent.  I told them that we were leaving, with or without the DRs orders.  The only thing that would have stopped us was a pair of LEOs blocking our way.  They saw that we were indeed leaving, made a few hurried calls and whadaya know, he was released, but only after I had to sign a bunch of release of liability forms.  All he could say was just how bad everyone looked and how lifeless they all looked.  He made it quite clear he never wanted to ever be in one of those places again.  I have thought about our local VA old folks home for during the day, but ever since we discovered the visiting angels we have a very good working solution, we are doing 2 hours a day M-F to see how it works out, so far so good, we have had one of the lady let go, she seemed to think lunch and social events were her duties, in between her calls and many texts.  His primary angel is the mom of a submariner who is based at the Bangor Sub base, she is from Arkansas and is proving to be one heck of a care giver.  Once I am cleared to return to work we will probably bump the hours up to 4 hours a day until nicer/clearer weather arrives.  If he were at a stage where he was dangerous to others I don't know what I would do, he sees myself and my buddy Rich as his authority figure, he takes a no just like I did when I was a kid.  He will defy my brother, my son, and my wife.  So, I end up doing a bunch of things that others could do.  I am starting to see a little paranoia, not toward me or Rich, but to the others.  I see a time when I will need to move him into my house for his own safety, that is going to be tough as he will always feel a need to go to his house, a problem we had when he was recovering from his bypass.  He would wake up at some weird hour and just go home...
Ugd56, we have ended up with a fairly complex yet simple method for his meds, we broke them into two categories, AM and PM, we control his meds and keep them at our home, his AM he gets at breakfast time and PMs are here when we make him dinner.  I feel fortunate that he hasn't become combative, I think it is because I am a daily figure and I live next door.  Tonight was about as close as it gets, he had a cheap pen come apart, he lost the spring and he had a small stepped plastic gear in his hand.  In his mind he broke it and I needed to fix it.  I found him a much better pen and put the broke one up, we went downstairs to stoke the fire for the night he kept insisting he dropped the spring somewhere on the floor.  I'd bet money he is still worried about that spring.

Heres an idea, do y'all think a thread about Alzheimers would be beneficial to the forum?  I know how much help and comfort I have received and I think others may benefit.  Sometimes knowing others out there are experiencing the same pains it helps, and it would be a great place to share what has worked and places to seek professional help.  Let me know and I'll see about putting something together.

Chet
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Ron Dawg on January 06, 2012, 04:59:32 AM
Chet, we're all pulling for you, bro. I don't think I know anyone who's in our approximate age range who does not have parent issues at the moment or on the horizon. You're on the prayer list, so hang in there.
Ron
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: connie_rider on January 06, 2012, 07:01:45 PM
do y'all think a thread about Alzheimers would be beneficial to the forum?

It wouldn't hurt to give it a try.
I'd be interested.

Tell your dad that we all say hello to him...

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on January 06, 2012, 10:02:22 PM
do y'all think a thread about Alzheimers would be beneficial to the forum?

It wouldn't hurt to give it a try.
I'd be interested.

Tell your dad that we all say hello to him...

Ride safe, Ted
Will do and I will tell him.  I'll give some serious thought to a new thread.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: r2t2 on January 06, 2012, 10:41:18 PM
Well, after finally finding and reading this thread, I can see that I've had it pretty easy compared to your situation Chet! It sounds like you're dealing with the hand you have been dealt way better than most. Had I seen this sooner, I could have (possibly) made a contribution about the meds and rehab...

The drugs were both a blessing and a curse. I had been taking them for almost a year (solid) and on and off for the prior five years. Cold turkey wan't amusing. I guess I had my ex concerned enough that she about to fly up here. I  will still take a Percocet  or Vicodin when needed.

The PT sucks, BUT it's worth it. I just discovered (yeah I can be kinda dense at times) that I have lost weigh, gained muscle mass and feeling much better after all the work. I actually lost ten pounds in December and an inch from my waist size. I was lucky that I was able to find a physical therapist that was also a Pilates instructor too. She's the biggest factor in my recovery in the last two months. Get those core muscles working and stronger. 

New Year's Day was the five month anniversary of my surgery. It was a beautiful day. It took me (with a neighbor's help) close to twenty minutes to get my riding suit zipped up over the brace, but we managed and I took my first ride on the C14. I think that was (probably) the ride I've had in ages... 

Hang in there. It will get better and it sounds like you're actually healing pretty fast. Maybe we should start a back surgery thread...

BTW, does your wife have a single sister???  ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on January 06, 2012, 10:58:42 PM
Single sister?  Yes, but I think they don't have the same father :yikes:  She is ginormous and about the laziest person I have EVER met, yes, that bad.
I am really digging the PT, today we worked on more core exercises and some upper body conditioning, I think I'm gonna be sore tomorow and I love it.  I have a few exercises and stretchs I can do at home and I am working the abs daily.  The numbness in my left leg is slowly working it's way up, which is a good thing, the outer thigh is still quite touchy but the lower weirdness is gone.  I've maintained my weight and my belt is getting longer, I think I may even reach my goal of 190 by the time I return to work.  I can use any machine that isn't being used after I am done with my daily routine, I think I'm going to start riding the bike, get my heart rate up and burn some calories.  My end goal is no meds whatsoever, which means weight and diet control and a solid workout routine.
I'm glad to hear you got a grip on the meds, I have a phobia about addictions, long story short but I think it has served me well.

I'm jealous you got to ride your 14, it's been almost 4 months for me, I did a short ride on the KLR and it was awesome ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: r2t2 on January 06, 2012, 11:13:42 PM
Lucky you! No love when it comes to riding my mountain bike... And ride (KLR or Connie) is a GREAT ride. I think I would have to be lifted onto a KLR right now. My carrot is to be able to make this year's Bun Cooler... Think you may make it? 190 would be great, but I'll be really tickled when I break under 200.

So the sister's out... How about a first cousin???

I do think your phobia is well founded. I'm amazed as to how easy it is to become dependent on them... PC way of saying hooked!
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on January 06, 2012, 11:27:59 PM
I will do my best to make the Bun Burner, I'm feeling lazy, so do you have the date?  I'm hoping to be in the middle of a dirt bike instructor course most of Marchs weekends.  I bought the KLR for that reason, and a 3 rail MC trailer so I could pull the KLR and YZ behind the Jetta.  I have this as a third reaon to really push myself in a smart way.
Cousins?  Kinda wacked out as well, I think he families bad examples were good lessons for my wife and I got really lucky.  She left home (in with me while I was in high school) when she was 15, I joined the Army, finished BCT and advanced training, returned home, married her in April (she was 16 by then), and 30 years later we are still together, 3 kids later and 2 grandkids we still have a working and great relationship.  And, heck, I aint even 50 ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: r2t2 on January 06, 2012, 11:53:41 PM
The Bun Cooler should be the second or third weekend in May. That's far enough out that all our backs should be in great shape!
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 07, 2012, 06:22:12 AM
do y'all think a thread about Alzheimers would be beneficial to the forum?

Ride safe, Ted

If you want to start a new thread, then by all means...
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: sherob on January 07, 2012, 08:27:34 AM
Monday I get my L5/S1 fused... finally.  :)  I was told 6 weeks no riding, which beats 6 months when I had my herniated disk repaired back in 2006.  :hail: They have a miracle drug now that promotes bone growth/fusing, which will be cutting down my PMS (Parked Motorcycle Syndrome) .  I was told 2 to 4 weeks off, then back to work.  They are going thru the front groin area, so recovery will be quicker than cutting the back muscles to access the spine.  Only one night in the hospital if all goes well.  No brace this time around either.  Boy, how things have changed in 6 years.  8)

I've been on Oxycontin/Opana for a year now for pain management... I'll be happy as a lark to stop taking that stuff.  The only upside of taking them, was not eating the NSAID's that were destroying my stomach.

Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on January 07, 2012, 11:54:04 AM
Monday I get my L5/S1 fused... finally.  :)  I was told 6 weeks no riding, which beats 6 months when I had my herniated disk repaired back in 2006.  :hail: They have a miracle drug now that promotes bone growth/fusing, which will be cutting down my PMS (Parked Motorcycle Syndrome) .  I was told 2 to 4 weeks off, then back to work.  They are going thru the front groin area, so recovery will be quicker than cutting the back muscles to access the spine.  Only one night in the hospital if all goes well.  No brace this time around either.  Boy, how things have changed in 6 years.  8)

I've been on Oxycontin/Opana for a year now for pain management... I'll be happy as a lark to stop taking that stuff.  The only upside of taking them, was not eating the NSAID's that were destroying my stomach.
Best wishes on the surgery.  Aint it odd at just how long it takes before they finally settle on surgery?  I lay the fault at the folks who fraud their way forward.  I for one can't wait to get back to work and I am doing everything I can to help expedite the date.
PMS describes it quite well.  Hopefully I am riding next week, I'll hold off on the YZ but the 14 and KLR are fair game.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on January 14, 2012, 11:27:11 PM
Well, some not so good news, doc wont let me return to work until my "conditions" improve.  I've experienced a setback, back to where it was before surgery.  I am getting another one of their diagnstic shots to prep for another facet burn, this sucks.  Doc says he saw the other herniated disc and is concerned about my other degenerative issues.  What I will do is get as much fixed as possible and my doc wasnt overly sure I could be back to normal.  The bright side?  I'm around to take care of Pappy, winter is the worst time for him, between the shorter days and wet days he just isn't interested in doing much of anything,  If I am there I can motivate him to do something, even if it is hauling in wood to the basement.
Oh well, I did finish the ZXTB swap this evening, did a quick 10 minute ride to get gas and do a loop, first time this year I hit trips :D  I wore a heavier pair of gloves since I didnt want to use the heated grips to help preserve battery life.  It was a fun little ride, one that made me want even more.  Tomorow we have a meeting for the upcoming dirtbike school certification program, I am hoping things get better, the actual sessions begin in mid March.  Time to start building my hand and forearm strength.  I may pull the YZ out for a coupla laps around the place just to see how I feel.
Send an extra prayer to LEO, he needs the help more then I do.  I'm feeling strong mental wise, but physically wise I'm still lacking.

As an FYI, sex is out of the question, 3 days of pain for 2 inches of satisfaction just aint worth it 8)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Conrad on January 15, 2012, 06:20:50 AM
I'm sorry to hear about the setback Chet. Hang in there man!    :thumbs:

I'm also sorry to hear about the two inches, my condolences to your wife.   :o    ;)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on January 15, 2012, 06:31:26 AM
Hopefully you meant two inches..............wide.   ;D

Good luck Chet.  I hope your back issues are sorted out in an expedient manner. 
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on January 15, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
"An inch more and I'd be a king, an inch less and I'd be a queen"  Just call me "Stump" 8)
I sure hope things do work out soon, when I was putting the tank back on (all but empty) I had a really bad spike in pain, no ryme or reason.  I think I need to lower my expectations a bit.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: blue14 on January 15, 2012, 04:04:19 PM
Ok Stump, hope yer back starts feeling better. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: r2t2 on January 15, 2012, 04:15:54 PM
Well that sux Chet! Do they have you in any kind of brace? I've gotten to appreciate my brace as my gut shrinks and it fits better. The thing I like about the brace is that it won't let me do the (stupid) things that I shouldn't do. It sounds like you had more damage than what the MRI (or whatever) actually showed. I know my surgery was about 6 hours when it was only supposed to be about 3. They kept finding other things that all the different pictures didn't show. Hang in there. I beginning to believe that post back surgery becomes an exercise in patience... Something that I didn't have a lot of. 
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on January 15, 2012, 04:50:28 PM
I think the issues are stemming from the degenerative bones, I always knew I had 2 herniated discs but they only worked on one?  I do know I will have a second opinion from an independant surgeon before they cut on me again.  I think you discovered my shortcoming as well, patience.  I was so ready to get fixed I didn't even think about getting another opinion.  Other then getting fixed I am starting to worry about my job, FMLA only guarentees a position for 12 weeks, after that it is about whatever policy the employer has.  I have been told I am OK, but who knows down the road?  I really do miss my job, working with Soldiers and their preferred tools is great and with the pace of work it is always a challenge.  If they do decide to replace me I always have a job as a motorcycle instructor and I have a standing offer to travel to train SF Soldiers, it is a special contract held by the folks I teach for.  Heck, I would even have more time to continue developing my property.
So to sum it all up?  I just need to be patient.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: connie_rider on January 16, 2012, 06:48:11 AM
You mentioned Dirt Bike Instructor.
Are you teaching people how to ride one, or how to improve their skills for racing?

Back when I started on a dirt bike, my (err) instructor sed give it a lot of gas and let go of the clutch.. End of lesson.....
Lets go ride....

Sorry to hear about the ste back... Keep yer Chin up!

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on January 16, 2012, 08:25:58 AM
The classes are from 6 and up, no racing.  It is also stressed to respect our enviroment, pack it in/out and to leave as small a footprint as possible.  They also offer dualsport/adventure riding events.
Here is a link to the site for PSSOR http://www.pssor.com/ (http://www.pssor.com/)

I think I will skip physical therapy today, I woke up feeling pretty good and I want to give the back another day to recover so to speak.  We are dropping a few big fir trees today, I will be the gofer and excavator operator, no saw work for me.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Walker18 on February 26, 2012, 05:57:50 AM
Chet, I just ran across this, and immediately thought of you and your Pop, it wouldn't hurt to try it out..
http://www.cbn.com/media/player/index.aspx?s=/mp4/LJO190v1_WS (http://www.cbn.com/media/player/index.aspx?s=/mp4/LJO190v1_WS)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: tidewatergirl on February 26, 2012, 06:35:13 AM
Chet - What a remarkable person you are to care for your father in this way. I lost my Dad last may and now have become my mother's new husband (she is 82) and I feel the strain but also the gift of being the child caregiver...even in the darkest of moments.....my brothers and sisters are far away and I know they wish they could be here. I think anything information you share on Alzheimer and you successes and failures would be a blessing for us all to read. My best friend's mother had been snicking cigarettes and matches from the coat closet at church (from the mens overcoats) and was home smoking and damn near burnt the house down.  The can forget you are but remember their addiction and how to get what they want....in the child's mind they live in. I wish you all the patience, and self knowledge you have to care for Pappy. 
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on February 26, 2012, 09:32:08 AM
Walker, thank you from the heart, I will be finding some today, at this point it surely won't hurt.  I will pass on what Pappys experiences are.  Thank you again :)

tidewatergirl, the gift is what keeps me going at times.  The gift of his little SEG when he comes up with a good zinger or the gift of an old memory shared.  You hit a really key item, patience.  Remember that while a child is learning new things daily, Alz. folks are unlearning things daily.  Anything out of a lifetime norm is a distractor and adds to the confusion.  Location and foods are the 2 biggest distractors that come to mind.  Don't offer a new form of food, no matter how good it may be, they won't like it.  If a new location is the destination they must have an old friend with them and they become easily confused and start closing the door to their mind.

I also find sharing this experience a big help for me.  Family will always be close but I have found that emotions tend to cloud reason and often add to the burden.  So, I would say simply that the prayers are being answered and I feel a tremendous amount of relief.  Thank you to all.

Today is one of those special days that I shared with Pappy as a child, it is the Daytona 500.  I will be ordering pizza and watching the race.  It is a great day indeed.  Go Kyle Busch, beat all them Hendrick boys ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: sherob on February 26, 2012, 05:15:39 PM
Been meaning to drop you an update... keep forgetting to.

SOP, I hope and pray your back does improve, or at least you do find a surgeon that can perform the procedure you need.  I was blessed to find The Center For Spinal Disorders here in Denver.  My original surgeon I was seeing was a joke, and my wife who is a RN made me seek another opinion!  I'm glad I did. 

I had my L5/S1 fused on 1/9, back to work on 2/13.  I have a nice plate in place with 4 screws... almost a half inch taller now... or should I say, back to my normal height. ;D  I was walking the night of the surgery... sadists! :o  Discharged on 1/10.

So far things are OK... I should be OK'ed to start riding again on 3/6.  A few good things that came of this... dropped a few pounds, and I quit smoking.  The loss of pounds should just make me that much quicker in the twisties, right?  ;D 

I wish you the best... I'll keep you in my prayers.  Hope you and Pappy have a great day, and hopefully you have a race to watch if the rain will blow off!  8)

Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jettn Jim on March 04, 2012, 12:46:38 AM
Been wondering how you we're doin' Chet.... in my prayers over here.  :thumbs:
Peace brother
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on March 04, 2012, 01:36:55 AM
Thanks Jim!!  Lightning in the blood :)  Spent some time on the KLR today, I went and did a shadow of our intermediate dirt bike course, body is smoked tired, mostly forearm and hands.  My legs are also burning, had an intense physical therapy yesterday, told em I wanted some sore muscles and boy did they deliver.  I have 1 week left to be %100 for work, don't think, well, pretty sure it aint happening, it will be up to a DR to sign a release and based on the PT reports I am about %75 capable based on job requirements.  I will build on life, do some full time MSF and dirtbike teaching, start doing some adventure camps and rally seminars.  My biggest challenge will be Pappy during a rally and adventure camps.  My bride of 31 years will fill in for me, but Pappy isn't as cooperative for her.
I got a new tent http://www.redverz.com/ (http://www.redverz.com/) it is really easy to setup, gobs of room, an area for cooking inside during periods of falling moisture of hot sun.  Roll the bike in, close door, warm things up with engine heat.  Sleeps 2 easy, 3 if there aint any homofobs.   My kit is all but dine, all I need is a butane fired lamp for light and heat, and a small axe for wood and peg driver.  When do you see yourself out this way[/[/font],  I may have loads of time on my hands and if we ride Ellemeham and surrounding areas we could setup Pappy at his place, point out things he enjoys doing and head out for some cow trails and end up at the bottom of the mountain.  Bring some Kind and I'll bring some Crown.  We'll find us a fresh bird or two for dinner over the fire, eat some spuds, and plan where the next days ride will take us.  I'd like to ride your big bore so I can see if it is something I need to do ;)
Prayers back atcha, your'e too adventurous to not need them ;)  Hey, do you like moose jerky?
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on March 04, 2012, 06:40:26 AM
At least you have good options either way.  Motorcycles or weapons!  Most guys would kill to have those two choices.  I am another fortunate guy that rides my motorcycle to work and works with weapons.  Hopefully you are back to 100% sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jettn Jim on March 04, 2012, 07:49:10 AM
Haha haha yup Lightning in the Blood fer sure buddy!  ;) Yup yup and yup to the questions!  I plan to be back out there this summer on the bike and in the fall I may bring out the 4x4 van with boat in tow.  Well stocked with Kind and that deal sounds like a plan!  :thumbs:
Peace ma Brother and you ain't kidd'n about need'n the prayers.... just came back from a 3200mi ride and found m'self pushing those limits again... ::)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on June 14, 2012, 08:44:53 AM
Well, back to see him again, I have an appointment this Afternoon to see what the next step is.  Medication will NOT be the answer and I have no desire to repeat surgeries every 6-9 months.  I was recently hired at my dream job, won't start until the 5th of July (Program Manager of Puget Sound Safety Off Road (PSSOR).  Part time gig (100 hours a month) and any training classes I teach.  They are aware of my pending surgery and very supportive.
Wish me luck :)
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: okxd45 on June 14, 2012, 09:31:12 AM
Well, back to see him again, I have an appointment this Afternoon to see what the next step is.  Medication will NOT be the answer and I have no desire to repeat surgeries every 6-9 months.  I was recently hired at my dream job, won't start until the 5th of July (Program Manager of Puget Sound Safety Off Road (PSSOR).  Part time gig (100 hours a month) and any training classes I teach.  They are aware of my pending surgery and very supportive.
Wish me luck :)

The job sounds perfect for you!  Hoping the doc has got an answer........other than pain meds!


Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jettn Jim on June 14, 2012, 11:33:55 AM
GREAT news Chet.... congrats!  Back out in Idaho again... maybe we can get togther to ride or BS?

Peace,
Jim
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on June 14, 2012, 12:23:16 PM
GREAT news Chet.... congrats!  Back out in Idaho again... maybe we can get togther to ride or BS?

Peace,
Jim

That is a real good possibility, I'll be at the property for 9 days at the end of the month, I'll have the KLR with me, feel free to drop on in.
The job sounds perfect for you!  Hoping the doc has got an answer........other than pain meds!
Thanks!  I'll post up this eve, I hope it's some good news.
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on June 14, 2012, 03:38:46 PM
Well, back to see him again, I have an appointment this Afternoon to see what the next step is.  Medication will NOT be the answer and I have no desire to repeat surgeries every 6-9 months.  I was recently hired at my dream job, won't start until the 5th of July (Program Manager of Puget Sound Safety Off Road (PSSOR).  Part time gig (100 hours a month) and any training classes I teach.  They are aware of my pending surgery and very supportive.
Wish me luck :)

That is awesome!  (The job, not the continuing back issues).  Good luck with the Doc and enjoy the new job.  Pick a position that you love and you will never "work" another day in your life. 
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on June 14, 2012, 05:30:22 PM
So, basicly I was told to "Suck it up Buttercup".  Nothing this doc could/would be willing to do.  I'm seeking another surgeon as I will not live a synthetic life.

And Jeremy, I agree completely ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Taff on June 15, 2012, 07:10:30 AM
So, basicly I was told to "Suck it up Buttercup".  Nothing this doc could/would be willing to do.  I'm seeking another surgeon as I will not live a synthetic life.

And Jeremy, I agree completely ;D

Chet, good luck on the back surgeon and congratulatiions on the job. I have a stressful job so like Jeremy says, you wont "work another day in your life".
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: leyenda30 on June 15, 2012, 02:38:27 PM
SOP, I don't know your situation but have you considered acupuncture as a means to lessen the pain to deal with it? I had muscle spasms in my lower back and three visits did  wonders for me. It's like anything to get a good person doing it, but might be an option for you short term if nothing else.  Good luck. JP
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: blue14 on June 15, 2012, 02:51:13 PM
Spinal Decompression?
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on June 15, 2012, 05:52:14 PM
I have an inversion table, works wonder, but the pressure on the hips?  I will be trying out an accupuncture treatment, they can get pricey but if it works?  My issues are a herniated disc, degenerative bone loss, and Stenosis.  I'll keep on trucking, just need to pace myself better and avoid prolonged repitition.  Leverage is my friend (and a big backhoe).
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: blue14 on June 15, 2012, 05:58:19 PM
Okay so a fistful of ibuprofen.... :rotflmao:

Whatever works.....
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: Son of Pappy on June 15, 2012, 06:20:44 PM
Okay so a fistful of ibuprofen.... :rotflmao:

Whatever works.....
AKA "Ranger Candy"!!  Take 2 800mgs before movement and 2 at completion of mission.  I still have a couple of quart jar sized medicine bottles.  Kinda getting a whiteish coating on them, wonder if they are any good?
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: leyenda30 on June 15, 2012, 08:14:42 PM
Big backhoe is definitely a back saver!  ;D
Title: Re: Seeing the surgeon
Post by: blue14 on June 17, 2012, 12:23:58 PM
AKA "Ranger Candy"!!  Take 2 800mgs before movement and 2 at completion of mission.

Then you should be good, your feet are numb. LOL.