Author Topic: Onboard computer display mod (Read 41417 times)

lather · « **Reply #80 on:** February 07, 2012, 06:41:25 PM »

The last part of my last post was semi-facetious, I am already way ahead thanks to this thread. Frankly I am impressed that someone could point the way to get as far as we have. I have a friend who used to work for NASA who worked similar magik on my old C10 J-Box, I may consult him. But before I start poking and prodding I will take a look at the wiring diagram. Bud's suggestion is a great start. As for the switch it will need to be a momentary, otherwise the mileage gets reset to zero.

marku8a · « **Reply #81 on:** February 07, 2012, 10:33:23 PM »

So my final solution was to use the Flash To Pass (FTP) switch. Ground to the black/yellow wire to the horn switch. You need to loosen the turn signal switch to get to the horn ground wire.

Thinking that I was going to add a switch as opposed to using the FTP switch I purchased a couple of the previously recommended switches...

http://www.gamainc.com/site/epage/128634_941.htm

These will fit with no problem, have a good crisp tactile feel and look OEM.

A sweet mod at almost cost! Bring on the ODO mod!!

Mark

marku8a · « **Reply #82 on:** February 07, 2012, 10:37:18 PM »

Quote from: marku8a on February 07, 2012, 10:33:23 PM

Sorry. I meant ...A sweet mod at almost no cost!

Mark

OCK913 · « **Reply #83 on:** February 08, 2012, 03:19:44 PM »

Just wanted to update and say that I completed my display mod last night and everything works perfectly and I am very pleased with the result. A HUGE THANK YOU to Lord Frederick for the instructions and everyone else who added follow-up. All in all, I spent less than $5 and probably 2 hours from the time I turned the first screw til the time it was all buttoned up.
All

Lord Frederick

BudCallaghan · « **Reply #84 on:** February 08, 2012, 08:18:03 PM »

Quote from: OCK913 on February 07, 2012, 08:50:24 AM

Thanks Bud, as soon as I read that I was "DOH!" I checked it before I left for work and I am good to go. I will work on the connecting it to the display tonight.

Congratulations!
We're located at opposite corners of this country, perhaps that explains why you say "DOH" and I say, "DUH". I've always said "DUH" and never heard otherwise until the arrival of Homer Simpson. Are you a fan of his?

Kwikasfuki · « **Reply #85 on:** February 09, 2012, 03:58:12 PM »

I'm quite impressed with my non waterproof switch. Got caught in a downpour and it behaved perfectly.

I still have my grand plan of replacing the display with a custom one, once I can crack all the canbus codes.

Jeremy Mitchell · « **Reply #86 on:** February 09, 2012, 07:53:06 PM »

Quote from: Lord Frederick III on February 09, 2012, 03:58:12 PM

I still have my grand plan of replacing the display with a custom one, once I can crack all the canbus codes.

In dash GPS? That would be an interesting project.

ZG · « **Reply #87 on:** February 09, 2012, 08:02:04 PM »

Quote from: Jeremy Mitchell on February 09, 2012, 07:53:06 PM

In dash GPS? That would be an interesting project.

Kwikasfuki · « **Reply #88 on:** February 10, 2012, 06:30:00 AM »

Quote from: Jeremy Mitchell on February 09, 2012, 07:53:06 PM

In dash GPS? That would be an interesting project.

More than that. A fully inbuilt android or linux based device.

Of course you can put one in a holder and shove it on your handlebars but its not quite the same thing

Jeremy Mitchell · « **Reply #89 on:** February 10, 2012, 06:35:32 AM »

Sounds like a great (highly technical) project. Good luck sir.

maxtog · « **Reply #90 on:** February 10, 2012, 04:36:16 PM »

Quote from: Lord Frederick III on February 10, 2012, 06:30:00 AM

More than that. A fully inbuilt android or linux based device.

+1,000,000 !!!

Kwikasfuki · « **Reply #91 on:** February 11, 2012, 06:55:48 AM »

To be honest, doing a customised onboard computer whether it be android or linux based isn't that hard.

The hard part is know what protocol Kawasaki use in their CANBUS and writing the protocol code.

So:

1. on the handlebar there would be some sort of joystick control to navigate the menus
2. the onboard computer would allow:
a. customised display (so if you wanted to have TPS with battery voltage and temperature you could do)
b. be in colour
c. have bluetooth functionality
d. ability to install applications e.g. music player
e. integrated sat nav
3. and a ton of other goodies i've not thought of.
4. Use a beagleboard or some other small form factor board
5. Must have low power consumption
6. USB to copy music/data to the internal SD card

Obviously would need to display Kawasaki system errors etc.

Its not rocket science. The hard part is the CANBUS protocol. From my research the ZX14 chaps are trying to decipher the codes as well, and they should be the same as the Concours. If anyone here has the KDS database, that would help

. The manufacturers of speedohealer are developing their own low cost diagnostic kit for Kawasaki (sniffs messages on the CANBUS and decodes them). Once I have access to this kind of toolset it will make life easier.

If I do get it done, I'm just dreading the size of the writeup for people to do the customisation themselves. If people are interested in this I don't mind giving the project a bit more focus. At the moment its more for me to polish up on my technical skills.

gPink · « **Reply #92 on:** February 11, 2012, 07:35:08 AM »

Would not the canbus code be the same in each computer on the bike? A company like Guhl Motors,who has cracked the code in order to reflash the ecu might be able to help. On a different front a company called Hexcode has cracked the canbus on BMWs.
http://www.hexcode.co.za/

Kwikasfuki · « **Reply #93 on:** February 11, 2012, 09:45:08 AM »

Quote from: gPink on February 11, 2012, 07:35:08 AM

Would not the canbus code be the same in each computer on the bike? A company like Guhl Motors,who has cracked the code in order to reflash the ecu might be able to help. On a different front a company called Hexcode has cracked the canbus on BMWs.
http://www.hexcode.co.za/

Actually, you may be right. Doing a bit more digging I found this product available: kawasaki 4 pin - 16pin obd2 adapter.

This suggests an ODB2 scanner could be used and therefore Kawasaki are following the standards.

jjnorc · « **Reply #94 on:** February 11, 2012, 05:35:58 PM »

Awsome Mod

It was bothering me, having to lean up to change the display.

Thought I'd share some pics.

C14-Pilot · « **Reply #95 on:** February 11, 2012, 07:34:32 PM »

Looks really nice!
Where did You attach the ground wire?
I have ordered the switch and will be doing this mod next week.

Thanks,
C14-Pilot

BudCallaghan · « **Reply #96 on:** February 12, 2012, 11:07:07 AM »

Quote from: jjnorc on February 11, 2012, 05:35:58 PM

Awesome Mod

It was bothering me, having to lean up to change the display.

Thought I'd share some pics.

Where did you acquire this nice looking switch?

jjnorc · « **Reply #97 on:** February 12, 2012, 11:28:23 AM »

Quote from: C14-Pilot on February 11, 2012, 07:34:32 PM

Looks really nice!
Where did You attach the ground wire?
I have ordered the switch and will be doing this mod next week.

Thanks,
C14-Pilot

I simply ran a short peice of wire out of the bottom of the switch housing and clamped it to the handle bar.
I clamped it between the cluch clamp and the switch housing. I may drill and tap the handlebar inside the housing area in the future if I have problems loosing ground. A small machine screw would fit.

jjnorc · « **Reply #98 on:** February 12, 2012, 11:33:08 AM »

Quote from: BudCallaghan on February 12, 2012, 11:07:07 AM

Where did you acquire this nice looking switch?

It's the one from Radio Shack mentioned a few pages back in this thread.
Mounting it was the hardest part of the whole project. I put the retaining ring on the inside of the switch housing half and marked the center with a center-punch. I drilled a small pilot hole from the inside then used a step drill bit from the outside.

Kwikasfuki · « **Reply #99 on:** February 12, 2012, 04:29:11 PM »

Quote from: jjnorc on February 11, 2012, 05:35:58 PM

Awsome Mod

It was bothering me, having to lean up to change the display.

Thought I'd share some pics.

The switch looks part of the furniture. Good choice.

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Author Topic: Onboard computer display mod (Read 41417 times)