Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: kzz1king on August 09, 2017, 10:50:46 AM
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I bought a pair of BS BTO 23's last fall.I installed the rear and am replacing it after 6000 miles. Has a bit left but is down to the bars. The Angel GT on the front has 11000 miles on it so will put the 23 on the front.
Here is the dilemma. Jake Wilson has the 190/55ZR-17 (75W) Bridgestone Battlax Sport Touring T30 EVO-GT Rear for $149 with a $25 per tire rebate but you need to buy a pair.I am thinking of buying 2 rear tires. Problem is the riding season is getting close to over. I will wear the first one out by the middle/end of next year and the second by middle/end of summer 2019. I lnow it depends on how fresh the tires I get are but does this sound like a plan? I plan on the next front being another Angel Gt so dont want to buy a pair.
My tire history thus far.
Angel GT rear- 5000 miles. Got thin and got 2 gravel road punctures days a part.
Angel Front- 11000 miles. No cupping and the angel eyes are still showing. About a1 inch plus flat strip.
Bridgestone BTO 23 rear- 6000. Right at the wear bars
Wayne
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The tires sitting in a "normal" temperature and humidity environment, out of direct sunlight, shouldn't deteriorate their life much at all. So I wouldn't worry about it much.
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I put mine in plastic bags in the basement.
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I put mine in plastic bags in the basement.
Tires Jim, we're talking tires.
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Oh.....never mind then.
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From Avons website
http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/faqs (http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/faqs)
"What is the age limit of Motorcycle Tyres?
The British Rubber Manufacturers Association advise tyres should be used within 6 years of manufacture. The tyre should then be removed after a total of 10 years. Avon recommend tyres should be used within 5 years of manufacture. The tyre should then be removed after a total of 7 years"
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I put mine in plastic bags in the basement.
Tires Jim, we're talking tires.
Oh.....never mind then.
:rotflmao:
You two should be on TV, or maybe a cruise ship act.
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Turned out to be moot point. Called in the order and they said I could still get the rebate for one tire. $25 a tire, limit of 4. I sure like doing business with Jake Wilson. New shoe on day.
WAYNE
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:rotflmao:
You two should be on TV, or maybe a cruise ship act.
That's a great idea. I can be the ventriloquist and well, you know, the other part of the act could be filled in by you know who.. ;)
Wait a minute, we already have a ventriloquist as a member! Hopefully he can give us some tips.
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:) Endless fun.... :rotflmao:
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An old couple...married for a long time....very comfortable with each other........really heartwarming to observe...... :grouphug:
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That's a great idea. I can be the ventriloquist and well, you know, the other part of the act could be filled in by you know who.. ;)
:) Endless fun.... :rotflmao:
.....very comfortable with each other........
(http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22704.0;attach=28505;image)
Sorry 'Pink, no strings, all indications are that he wants his hand up your bum so he can put words in your mouth.
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I might dance to his tune but that's as far as it goes.... :o
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Wait a minute, we already have a ventriloquist as a member! Hopefully he can give us some tips.
I think you guys are doing fine on your own. ;D
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Glad to hear it worked out for you Wayne.
I think we can all see that these guys are not going to be of any help. One apparently has his arm up the..... well, you get the picture.
But as to the general question: I do not know how long tires stay 'fresh' but the only ones I have seen that are clearly old and in bad shape, with cracked and checked sidewalls, are really very old- more than 20 years old. In fact, I had a lawn tractor cart tire that would not hold air, so I filled it with that 'Flate a Flat' foaming junk and it literally oozed out of both sidewalls of the tire. Guess I got my money's worth out of that one. And as it turns out, a Harbor Freight tire changing machine will not adjust small enough to grab that little wheel so I wrestled with the little guy all over the garage floor. I am confident it would have been hysterical... if only someone else was sweating and losing a lousy contest to begin with.....
Brian
Turned out to be moot point. Called in the order and they said I could still get the rebate for one tire. $25 a tire, limit of 4. I sure like doing business with Jake Wilson. New shoe on day.
WAYNE
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Thanks! ADD is rampant around here. 8)
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Yeah but it is part of the place's charm.....
But seriously, this thread got excessively de- railed. Normally, in and amongst the fun, your question will get answered. And in a case like this, by all means 'bang on the door again' by asking the question all over again, perhaps even in a new but identical thread, assigning a number or using the word "AGAIN".
This is a <usually> fun mix of camaraderie and knowledge..... but sometimes the camaraderie (which is what I am calling the 'Dummy and dirty arm' show) gets in the way.
;) ;D
Brian
Thanks! ADD is rampant around here. 8)
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Yep. I get a lot of very useful info here as well as plenty of entertainment
Wayne
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Well then it is worth every penny you paid for it.... ;) ;D
Brian
Yep. I get a lot of very useful info here as well as plenty of entertainment
Wayne
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And in a case like this, by all means 'bang on the door again' by asking the question all over again, perhaps even in a new but identical thread, assigning a number or using the word "AGAIN".
Yeah, that's all we need, something else to get max' all stirred up about. (https://media.giphy.com/media/LkMja2OMTYE1i/giphy.gif)
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Yeah, that's all we need, something else to get max' all stirred up about. (https://media.giphy.com/media/LkMja2OMTYE1i/giphy.gif)
Yep, nothing better than dozens of nearly identical threads...
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Nice Marty, now ya' got the beast half- awake and watching us.....
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It is OK Max, storage is getting cheaper every day. Or as Michael Scott said: "Limitless paper for a paperless world" in the company ad. :rotflmao: Because really, if you are going to cull all the good from the bad and get rid of the bad, which two threads would you keep, and do we really need both of them?
Brian
Yep, nothing better than dozens of nearly identical threads...
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Sorry, I figured the post from mikeyw64 had cleared it up.
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It is OK Max, storage is getting cheaper every day. Or as Michael Scott said: "Limitless paper for a paperless world" in the company ad. :rotflmao: Because really, if you are going to cull all the good from the bad and get rid of the bad, which two threads would you keep, and do we really need both of them?
It isn't about storage, but having to wade through more stuff later when trying to find something and also re-answering the same questions over and over. Many new threads have weak response because people already spent significant time on the topic in the past. I prefer to try and point people to previous discussions as answers, when possible (there is a LOT of good stuff out there). Of course, nothing is perfect, but...
which oil is best for the Concours?
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which oil is best for the Concours?
depends whether you're talking about engine oil, final drive oil, general lubricating oil, snake oil ?
You really need to be more specific ;)
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Sorry, I figured the post from mikeyw64 had cleared it up.
cheers
and for those who like to provide links to existing forum posts here it is :)
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22704.msg281431#msg281431 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22704.msg281431#msg281431)
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LOL
That might be a little circular.
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It isn't about storage, but having to wade through more stuff later when trying to find something and also re-answering the same questions over and over. Many new threads have weak response because people already spent significant time on the topic in the past. I prefer to try and point people to previous discussions as answers, when possible (there is a LOT of good stuff out there). Of course, nothing is perfect, but...
Ok whilst that may be true for people who have been here since the year dot not everyone remembers or reads every single thread especially if they cam in somewhere between the start & the present.
Yes this may be a new thread on a subject that has been covered before and some individuals may find it a little irritating and enjoy posting multiple links to previous threads on the same topic with the view that is useful however..................
If it hadn't been for this thread I wouldn't have provided the answer I did which I'm reasonably certain hasn't been given before.
:D
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Absolutely and utterly true. But no way around it that I know of.... other than perhaps much stricter moderation, which will not work either 'cause if some (most? almost all?) of us cannot squeeze in a joke or a snide remark or go OFFTOPIC: somewhat, I suspect there will not be many posters.
OFFTOPIC: is about everything I can think of to do to mark a post as not relevant to the current conversation.
Brian
It isn't about storage, but having to wade through more stuff later when trying to find something and also re-answering the same questions over and over. Many new threads have weak response because people already spent significant time on the topic in the past. I prefer to try and point people to previous discussions as answers, when possible (there is a LOT of good stuff out there). Of course, nothing is perfect, but...
which oil is best for the Concours?
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And seriously, that is great for information purposes for the readers. A link beats the hell out of what I normally say which is something like 'more information around here if you look', which is my lame- butt way of saying I cannot remember where it is.
Anywya, this thread has gone on long enough that any tires that were new when it was started are surely ozone- attacked and dead by now anyway.
:-)
Brian
cheers
and for those who like to provide links to existing forum posts here it is :)
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22704.msg281431#msg281431 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22704.msg281431#msg281431)
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you could always edit the subject line to help make the point ;)
Absolutely and utterly true. But no way around it that I know of.... other than perhaps much stricter moderation, which will not work either 'cause if some (most? almost all?) of us cannot squeeze in a joke or a snide remark or go OFFTOPIC: somewhat, I suspect there will not be many posters.
OFFTOPIC: is about everything I can think of to do to mark a post as not relevant to the current conversation.
Brian
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Personal preference but I never do that and do not care for it; I remember thread names and when they change, without starting a new thread, it confuses me. When I log in and see the 'new since last time' titles, I think the changed thread titles are new threads and may ignore a thread I was watching or go read a thread I could not care less about. Oh, the horror....
Remember, we are Colonists after all..... :-)
Brian
you could always edit the subject line to help make the point ;)
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Ok whilst that may be true for people who have been here since the year dot not everyone remembers or reads every single thread especially if they cam in somewhere between the start & the present.
Search is handy
Yes this may be a new thread on a subject that has been covered before
This whole thing was a topic change (which I didn't initiate). This thread is a new (and even interesting) question that has never been asked before (to my knowledge). I was responding to a generalized tease that has nothing to do with this thread.
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Personal preference but I never do that and do not care for it; I remember thread names and when they change, without starting a new thread, it confuses me.
Changing an existing thread subject is rarely warranted unless the original subject was meaningless such as:
Help needed!
What do you think?
What does this error mean?
Best stuff ever
All threads tend to drift, those that drift too much (at least into another specific subject instead of just chatter) "should" be split into new threads, but that isn't typical for zggtr.org. Admittedly it can be confusing to split threads.
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Speaking of tires, how bout that nitrogen? :stirpot:
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Well it wasn't all for naught, I found out that V'Jim has a basement. :)
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I was responding to a generalized tease that has nothing to do with this thread.
But surely that has the same overall effect as indulging in the teasing and adds to the post count in a thread without contributing anything of value to the thread ?
:popcorn:
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Speaking of tires, how bout that nitrogen? :stirpot:
I run 78% nitrogen in my tyres ;D
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It's changinging the "Post" subject line *not* changing the "Thread" subject line, only The OP or a Mod can do that :D
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An interesting comment Marty. Freaking scary and very disconcerting but interesting.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Brian
Well it wasn't all for naught, I found out that V'Jim has a basement. :)
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Yep, but it shows up in my searches for unread posts with the new title the poster can alter. At least I think so. Maybe not. After that John Sedgewick debacle, I am not sure what I type or even what I read, now.
;D
Brian
It's changinging the "Post" subject line *not* changing the "Thread" subject line, only The OP or a Mod can do that :D
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Speaking of tires, how bout that nitrogen? :stirpot:
I actually tried it once, but eventually it all got mixed up with real air.
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Hey guys, I resolved my dilemma. :D ;D 8) Carry on.
Wayne
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I thought you resolved you dilemma back when you posted in post #7, a couple of pages ago. ?? ?? Seriously, did you not do the buy one get one rebate, buy four, get four rebates and bought new tires?
Brian
Hey guys, I resolved my dilemma. :D ;D 8) Carry on.
Wayne
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Waiting on the UPS Guy
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Sorry 'Pink, no strings, all indications are that he wants his hand up your bum so he can put words in your mouth.
Yeah, the nerve of the guy. Using a marionette as chaff while the real subject matter is this very odd "handshake" among two longtime buddies.... ;D
Back to the topic at hand, the OP had this dilemma of feeling old and tired?
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....old and tired?
..or was it old and tireless?
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I don't think those two go together.
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..or was it old and tireless?
Indeed. Initially he was tireless, then the UPS guy delivered and he was tired. Don't recall the brand he got. Stayed old, though.
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:)
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This thread is losing traction.
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maybe it would help if it was sticky
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maybe it would help if it was sticky
I put a sticky note on my monitor....Nope, didn't help.
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I knew a guy who had a sticky monitor..... and I never shook hands with him because of it.
Brian
I put a sticky note on my monitor....Nope, didn't help.
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I knew a guy who had a sticky monitor.....
Laptop?
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:1DeadBanana
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Thank you!