Oil change full 5 Qts Concours 14

[VirginiaJim]

Amount of oil depends on how much was drained, so there's NO specific amount to fill with. Get it to the top mark AFTER running the engine and letting it sit. And yes, on the centerstand; that's what it's for too (if somebody doesn't believe that, check the difference ). It should take anywhere from 4-1/2 to 5 qts indeed. I drain oil in my vehicles overnight, so I believe mine will take 5 too, or very close to that. But I always leave 1/2-qt out until starting the engine, so I don't accidentally overfill it... but nothing an oil extractor can't fix if that happens, so no biggie . Finally, can't believe this bike takes 5 qts; that's awesome; the more the better. It's the same amount the 550HP GTR with 2 big turbos takes; unbelievable for Nissan to only allow that paltry amount. Anyway, have my first trip on Friday, and will be changing the oil for the first time over the weekend, even if I don't get to the magical 500 miles. Have a good one folks.

5 quarts totally dry.

[aspire61]

I drain oil in my vehicles overnight.

   glad to see another member who doesn't understand the concept of a 5 minute oil change- mat

[Conrad]

I don't care what filter you use, you overfilled the system by a pint...

man, is oil changing that difficult??

the sightglass is checked with both tires on the ground, not on centerstand.

There's no need to even check the sightglass. Drain the oil (w/filter removed), put the plug back in along with the new filter and poor in 4.5 quarts of oil and you're done.

5 quarts is for a DRY engine. Do I have to explain dry?   

[gPink]

There's no need to even check the sightglass. Drain the oil (w/filter removed), put the plug back in along with the new filter and poor in 4.5 quarts of oil and you're done.

5 quarts is for a DRY engine. Do I have to explain dry?

No, but somebody needs the explain a sound reason to drain the oil overnight. A bit OCD?

[Conrad]

No, but somebody needs the explain a sound reason to drain the oil overnight. A bit OCD?

It's the only way to get that pesky last half teaspoon out!   

[VirginiaJim]

There's no need to even check the sightglass. Drain the oil (w/filter removed), put the plug back in along with the new filter and poor in 4.5 quarts of oil and you're done.

5 quarts is for a DRY engine. Do I have to explain dry?

As in Martini?

[MAN OF BLUES]

There's no need to even check the sightglass. Drain the oil (w/filter removed), put the plug back in along with the new filter and poor in 4.5 quarts of oil and you're done.

5 quarts is for a DRY engine. Do I have to explain dry?   

like I said, some people claim to be experts on stuff.... maybe if the factory service manual was available for the 2015 models they could actually read those figures, so you may need to explain it to those people...

personally, the sightglass is only there for visual verification during the periods btween oil changes, that the level is adequate....
the correct figure is in writing, and I can verify from all the oil changes I have done since 7/7/07, that the figure is correct.
to blindly dump MORE oil than that figure tells is a bit silly...less maybe, but never more.

for giggles... dry means " totally devoid of any oil, I.e. a completely rebuilt engine, or new engine, that never had oil, thus the oil cooler and oil passages are all empty.
that's where the extra pint ends up.

and oil is checked with the bike sitting on the wheels, on a level surface, and held in a vertical manner... but that's outlined in the manual also... I believe its in the owners manual also, but nobody reads those either, because they all owned soo many bikes they know more than the manual...
draining the oil on the centerstand works, as the oil pan is now sloped forward towards the drain hole....
but unless all you do is run the engine in the garage, with it on the centerstand, that sightglass reading will be showing too full when the wheels are actually on the ground. So by all means DO compare it, makes sense to me....
kinda like whining because the tire pressure sensors say you have a different amount of air than you do when checked with a gauge...

ride safe and have a nice weekend.

[B.D.F.]

Ya' slay me Rich, ya' really does.   

As to the oil, it is merely a reservoir and the upper level means little as long as it is not so overfull that the crank passes through the oil when the engine is running, and the level is not so low that there is any danger of the oil pick-up sucking any air (being uncovered even momentarily during heavy braking, acceleration).

'Course there is always the problem of the utterly, perfectly full but not overfull crankcase on a motorcycle when the front wheel lifts off the ground. One would have to think the crankcase oil level would be a bit too much at the rear (transmission, output shaft / gears) and a bit too little at the front. 

Brian

like I said, some people claim to be experts on stuff.... <snipped expert stuff....>


ride safe and have a nice weekend.

[jimmymac]

 

I'll just sit back and watch... It's so tempting though...

[Rembrant]

You guys and your quarts...lol.

[Rembrant]

Anybody ever check to see if the gen 2 C14's drain more oil than the gen1 when during an oil change?

With the bike on the center stand, the front drain plug on the Gen 2 might let a few more tablespoons of oil out...

Not that it matters, just thinking out loud of course...

One bike has a vertical plug at the back, and the other has a horizontal plug at the front.

I've had both, but never checked.

[VirginiaJim]

  And what's wrong with quarts? 

[Rembrant]

And what's wrong with quarts? 

Hahaha...it's one of the few units of measure you almost never hear in Canada...lol., unless someone is talking about a quart of rum or whiskey...lol.

[B.D.F.]

Well, back off to the next 'legitimate' reference- the pint. "A pint's a pound, the whole world 'round". Except in the places that have 20 ounces in a pint such as the UK et. al. And the US et. al, where it is close but not quite right either. Of course a liter of water (pure water) weighs a kilogram.... mostly, sort of, kind of, depending on temperature.

But in the end, that is why there are lines on the sight glass' of motorcycle side cases, right? 

Brian

You guys and your quarts...lol.

[B.D.F.]

We buy our whiskey by the liter- usually 0.75 liter or 1.75 liter. At least Scotch Whiskey.

Brian

Hahaha...it's one of the few units of measure you almost never hear in Canada...lol., unless someone is talking about a quart of rum or whiskey...lol.

[Throttle 8]

We buy our whiskey by the liter- usually 0.75 liter or 1.75 liter. At least Scotch Whiskey.

Brian

I am old school-----metric or not, it will always be a 40 pounder for me!

[MAN OF BLUES]

Ya' slay me Rich, ya' really does.   

hey, I'll be here all week, be sure to tip your waitress....
 

my purpose in life has always been to interject humor, and some learning, into everything I touch...
glad its working...

   

[AlbertaDoug]

like I said, some people claim to be experts on stuff.... maybe if the factory service manual was available for the 2015 models they could actually read those figures, so you may need to explain it to those people...

personally, the sightglass is only there for visual verification during the periods btween oil changes, that the level is adequate....
the correct figure is in writing, and I can verify from all the oil changes I have done since 7/7/07, that the figure is correct.
to blindly dump MORE oil than that figure tells is a bit silly...less maybe, but never more.

for giggles... dry means " totally devoid of any oil, I.e. a completely rebuilt engine, or new engine, that never had oil, thus the oil cooler and oil passages are all empty.
that's where the extra pint ends up.

and oil is checked with the bike sitting on the wheels, on a level surface, and held in a vertical manner... but that's outlined in the manual also... I believe its in the owners manual also, but nobody reads those either, because they all owned soo many bikes they know more than the manual...
draining the oil on the centerstand works, as the oil pan is now sloped forward towards the drain hole....
but unless all you do is run the engine in the garage, with it on the centerstand, that sightglass reading will be showing too full when the wheels are actually on the ground. So by all means DO compare it, makes sense to me....
kinda like whining because the tire pressure sensors say you have a different amount of air than you do when checked with a gauge...

ride safe and have a nice weekend.

  :
I'd hate it if everyone didn't read this.
 

[B.D.F.]

Yeah- with me, it is the humor. If something amuses me, then all is well and whatever follows is a no- cost extra.

Now I have to go post in the bear spray thread..... :-)

Brian

hey, I'll be here all week, be sure to tip your waitress....
 

my purpose in life has always been to interject humor, and some learning, into everything I touch...
glad its working...

   

[elp_jc]

but somebody needs the explain a sound reason to drain the oil overnight. A bit OCD?

Engine is nice and cool when I finish the job . Never leave oil too long that I have to extract the most old oil out of there... but it's a nice side effect . I only use the bike for trips, so it always sits for weeks or even months between trips. No rush to finish such a maintenance job the same day.

By the way, had to flush the final drive 3 times until all the crap came out. But it's done now, ready to roll. Just need to go for a ride to heat up the engine oil and do that next. And hopefully not have a hard time removing the factory oil filter, but I know it'll eventually succumb to my plier-type wrench.