C10 Performance Mods

[xjs36uk]

Running Stock suspension, I use 10w fork oil and run atmospheric pressure front, 5psi rear, tyres at 42psi front and rear. (As far as I know they're the same set up for all models US, UK or EU)
I will admit that at 150 she was starting to enter the early stages of a tankslapper (hence I didn't try for more as she was still pulling, the RX has another powerband starting at 9000rpm and as mine is now completely RX'd I did find it.) so I sort of backed it off a little, but I know from previous experience this is predominately down to tyres, (oh for a set of michelin radials again!). The tyres on this were what it came with and both nearly new (Pirelli Venom Radial Front and Metzler Perfect Bias Belted Rear! YUK!), so I'll wait until they need replacement and then try the Avon Azaro rear and Michelin Road2 Front. Unless of course I'm ever lucky enough to get the mean streak rear conversion (but that is one rare machine in Europe).

You think a revoked license and an impounded bike is bad, it's the same here in Austria but they don't impound your vehicle. (legal on many stretches of the German Autobahn) thankfully I have a UK license so they can only fine me (70€ on the spot) and can't put points on my license or take it away. 

But in the UK...
Any speed over 130mph is automatic license revoked, vehicle impounded and 18 months prison. Another reason I emmigrated, I'm too much of a speed freak to live with that hanging over my shoulder!

[Steve in Sunny Fla]

Thanks Steve! I think I misled you, what I really wanted was one with the 2min jet kit and sprocket. If'n you got it great, if not that's ok two 'cause I was just curious to know. I'm sure other's are as well.
A big thanks for your support of this and the other forum.

  OK, here's a graph - the bottom run is a stock connie; the middle one is with 2mm jetting and the ex sprocket only; the top run is the same bike with my power cams in it. Steve

[Steve in Sunny Fla]

OK, here's something rarely seen - it's a dyno run of my bike from back in 06 with the SAME zx cams and carbs the OP has posted about - This is  a real chart, not just a verbal rendition of power. Where's the second powerband starting at 9000 rpm  the OP is talking about?
   Here's something I rarely do, but I'll say this - and y'all know me on this issue - talk is cheap, dozens of dyno runs isn't. Steve

[Steve in Sunny Fla]

Here's Shoodaben from a few months ago. Looking at the last two graphs I posted, Which do you thing is faster, the bike with the zx cams or my bike now? Look at the torque graphs on each, it's easier to distingush the differences there. Steve

[xjs36uk]

OK, here's something rarely seen - it's a dyno run of my bike from back in 06 with the SAME zx cams and carbs the OP has posted about - This is  a real chart, not just a verbal rendition of power. Where's the second powerband starting at 9000 rpm  the OP is talking about?
   Here's something I rarely do, but I'll say this - and y'all know me on this issue - talk is cheap, dozens of dyno runs isn't. Steve

You clocked up many miles on a Stock RX ?     
I'm on my third and have something like 100,000 hard miles under my RX belt. and with a total of 2,000,000 Miles on bikes mainly Kawasaki GPZ's (From the Start my Despatch bikes: GS125, CB550, Ninja 600R, Ninja 500S, Ninja 750R, Ninja 600R, Ninja 1000R, KLR600, GSXR1100, BMW R80, Concours 1000, Ninja 1000R, Ninja 900R, GT750P3, GPZ1100dfi, GS850G).  Ridden in ALL weathers plus all self maintained, fixed and repaired.
Figures and dyno charts I cannot deny have some meaning (but this is well known that dynos do not take into account ambient air temp and pressure, aerodynamics, air flow, weight, tarmac, weather and so on, they are a guide only giving the power and torque of a vehicle that is not actually moving).
Plus I should also point out that it has already been said you tried everything EXCEPT the RX CDi, which of course is mapped to make the best of the RX's Top End power. I couldn't give a rats arse about the loss of the midrange torque. I have 6 gears and I use them, I'm sure on a roll on all the other connies would leave me behind up to 100mph, Emabarassed? me? no I just change down and spin her up, but at the traffic light grand prix things MAY be different,
But there is no substitute for Experience.
Also I would like to point out that I am not known for 'bullshitting' I say it as it is or I don't bother (I always find it's best to get to know a person first before you make judgements about their charachter).
But hey what's the Argument? You show dyno graphs that state your bike has more power than x and you say that my bike would only achieve the sort of speeds I was speculating it should by falling out of an aircraft. Then I guess it must have fallen out of an aircraft on the German Autobahn, maybe that's where the Polizei were tailing me with thier radar in thier Audi RS6 (no contest, they could have blitzed me at any point, those RS's are seriously quick).
The mods that I have done HAVE produced the results that I expected them to.  You're all welcome to fly over to Austria and try it out (but don't fall out of the plane, you might get stopped by the Polizei!), I have a Guesthouse here, so you'd even have a place to stay!

[kzz1king]

  OK, here's a graph - the bottom run is a stock connie; the middle one is with 2mm jetting and the ex sprocket only; the top run is the same bike with my power cams in it. Steve

The cams add a huge torque increase.  I was going to leave my new one stock for a bit but now........I don't know

[Steve in Sunny Fla]

Mark, it's not an attempt at an arguement, nor a D*ck measuring contest. It's just simply that I have logged data that is undeniable, not just subjective observations.

  As far as not being a bs'er, well, you DID state the a zx11 "accellerates like nothing else on this planet" and when considering bikes like the zzr1200, zx12, zx14, hayabusa, r1, blackbird, etc etc etc... well we know you do stretch the truth abit.    Steve

[SteveJ.]

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You're all welcome to fly over to Austria and try it out (but don't fall out of the plane, you might get stopped by the Polizei!), I have a Guesthouse here, so you'd even have a place to stay!

I quit smoking, the money is going into a jar for a "fun" trip, this would qualify.

[xjs36uk]

Mark, it's not an attempt at an arguement, nor a D*ck measuring contest. It's just simply that I have logged data that is undeniable, not just subjective observations.

  As far as not being a bs'er, well, you DID state the a zx11 "accellerates like nothing else on this planet" and when considering bikes like the zzr1200, zx12, zx14, hayabusa, r1, blackbird, etc etc etc... well we know you do stretch the truth abit.    Steve

Fair comment, but not bullshit, maybe I am a little behind the times! but it still feels like it accelerates like nothing else on the planet! It is a totally moot point considering bullets accelerate much much faster and I don't think anything accelerates quicker than light itself whos acceleration is believed to be instantaneous. So even the what about the Busa, ZX14 etc etc was pretty much BS on your part Steve. But of course I BS again as scientists at CERN in Switzerland claim that the have recorded nutrinos arriving at a destination in Italy 60 nanoseconds quicker than light!  Looks like we're both 'don't know it alls' 

[xjs36uk]

I quit smoking, the money is going into a jar for a "fun" trip, this would qualify.

I'm still smoking, but hey I already made it here!

So let me know your arrival date, and don't forget your Helmet and Leathers.
Heck why not come to the festival aswell? 

[MAN OF BLUES]

Mark, it's not an attempt at an arguement, nor a D*ck measuring contest. It's just simply that I have logged data that is undeniable, not just subjective observations.

  As far as not being a bs'er, well, you DID state the a zx11 "accellerates like nothing else on this planet" and when considering bikes like the zzr1200, zx12, zx14, hayabusa, r1, blackbird, etc etc etc... well we know you do stretch the truth abit.    Steve

 

it's quite clear that you and I should just give up, and find a cave to live in, happily knowing that our penii (pl)  are clearly insufficient....although we clearly can walk, and mount our bikes...
I find this a bit interssting also:

Running Stock suspension, I use 10w fork oil and run atmospheric pressure front, 5psi rear, tyres at 42psi front and rear. (As far as I know they're the same set up for all models US, UK or EU)
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yeah, I bet it sits well on the side stand....

Having done the same add-ons, and owning the bike/modifying it for years, and also currently posessing an honest to goodness 160+mph bike (C14, and yes, it has been that fast), I have to toss in the gloves, and say it's all interesting to read, now I can go and read some more hunter S. Thompson, for entertainment.....
Steve, we just don't have a clue about this stuff, maybe we need a career change to Dispatch Courier, and rack up 2 million miles before we talk about speed mods again.

I'll brag on the Black bike in the sig line below, which sits in my barn  today, doing 10 second 1/4 miles in 1981....I have the dragstrip time ticket in hand.....10.28 and 10.70 sec. runs.

edit to add: both were hovering at the 130 mph mark only because of great launch, but torched 3 clutch pack$ in one day...$$$$$

[T Cro ®]

SHOVELS & BOOTS.......

[MAN OF BLUES]

SHOVELS & BOOTS.......

don't forget the BROWN socks also.....

[T Cro ®]

don't forget the BROWN socks also.....

I didn't realize that you worked for UPS...... 

[xjs36uk]

Dude, I weigh 10 1/2 stone that's 147lbs, so yeah she sits just fine and rides real smooth.

The point I was trying to get across is you can't deny a Police radar. I don't give a crap if the dyno says it only makes 1hp and has less torques than a dead President. It's quick on the top end, no maybe's, no sitting down with my chart and gear ratios trying to work out what it should do. It does. Proven in the real world.

This post was all about giving others an idea of how they can up the power (NOT TORQUE) without spending large sums of money on new this and new that (all you need is an RX, which lets face it can be had for peanuts on fleabay) etc etc. The HP figures I gave were kawasaki's and test magazines figures given admittedly when the bikes were new.

I do not belittle your abilities or skills, but I do think that you have been quite unfairly dismissive of my posts. You stated I would likely be unhappy with the results, which I am not, It does what I expected and I have achieved what I wanted. Total cost to me $0.

I'm not trying to measure D***s (I have no need). You like mid range punch and not having to change gear, I like top end and am happy to dance around the gearbox, I'm an aggressive rider and a grandfather of 3 1/2 (fourth comes in febuary), Not a pimple face kid. When I ride with my friends I am the guy at the back, because that's where I want to be, I have nothing to prove. But when I'm alone I ride like I want. 

[T Cro ®]

In truth we can deny a Police Radar as the old saying goes without pictures it did not happen....... 

To this Jousting Match I feel that for the time being it has run its course.