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Offline SmokinRZ

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Gas Cap Key
« on: August 09, 2018, 05:57:59 AM »
Hello, I am about to take a week long trip and would rather not fumble with the key in the FOB and would like to keep a key in the glove box of my 08.  Will I have problems finding a key blank at my locksmith or having the key cut from the FOB key?  Thanks
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2018, 10:44:09 AM »
Will I have problems finding a key blank at my locksmith or having the key cut from the FOB key?  Thanks

I don't think so, I didn't for the gas cap and saddle bags. However most key blanks that match the key profile will have too large of a head to also be used in the stove knob section. If you also want to have a backup for that as well be sure to get out a grinder and test fit the spare key in the stove knob area before you leave on a trip. It was more difficult for me to find a blank for the GIVI top case than for the C14.

There are two different keys used (A & B) so a blank that might work for one C14 may not work for 50% of the rest of them.
You might want to start the locksmith off with one of the below blanks.
 Ilco KW14; Ilco KW14R; Ilco X254 ; Ilco X255; Ilco X258; Ilco X259

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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2018, 02:47:02 PM »
I went to a locksmith and had some made.
Not a problem.

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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2018, 03:23:52 PM »
I went to a locksmith and had some made.
Not a problem.

Same here.  The resulting key was too big (huge head, sticks way out of the locks too), but works fine.
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2018, 07:50:21 PM »
I had a couple made and cut the heads down and epoxied them in oil cap Lids. I leave  mine in my saddlebags all the time. If I feel I need to secure things were closely I just drop them in the cubby. It's real Handy to reach for one when I fill up for gas.
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2018, 08:47:00 AM »
The key I initially bought from the locksmith was also long like the one that maxtog has.
I went back to the locksmith and he found a shorter blank to use. Works perfectly.

I did the same as kzz1king, but used Radio knobs instead of oil caps.
I suspect we both built them so that they barely stick out of the top of the bags.
Not noticeable at all. I tell folks mine are knobs to adjust the stereo.
        {Surprisingly, most believe me).  :o

I use a leather key case that I put my Fob, lock keys, spare trunk keys, and keys for the gas tank in.
Very handy..
NOTE: I'm always concerned I'll loose my FOB, so In the key case I have a dog tag with a note saying "If found, call ###-#### for $100 reward".

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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2018, 02:46:42 PM »
Not a bad idea, Ted.  Although, with me if you found my fob it would have my pants attached to them.
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2018, 05:37:52 PM »
caught in the zipper?

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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2018, 05:57:19 PM »
caught in the zipper?
First time I've heard it called that. :rotflmao:
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2018, 09:49:59 AM »
Local locksmith has blanks that will work, just with different top. I have one from dealer, drilled a hole in it to attach Del Sol ( changes color with sunlight ) key chain.
I keep that in the gas cap on long trips, along with a cc in the glove box.

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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2018, 01:26:40 PM »
Thank you for the responses.  I used to carry a spare key zip tied under the side cover of my C10.  I get thousands of miles from home and worry about things like that .  I might do that with a Ford F-150 key since my 08 didn't come with a passive key, just two active FOBs.         
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2018, 02:04:53 PM »
  I might do that with a Ford F-150 key since my 08 didn't come with a passive key, just two active FOBs.         

I know I'm going to be guilty of --->  :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:

..but because there is so much confusion and mis-information around, I will take this opportunity to once again point out what most of you already know....
..that is that both of those active FOBs are passive FOBs as well....I know I know..you already know this..but down the road someone that doesn't will stumble across this thread
about keys and go "HUH? I didn't know that."  So this is a just a in case post.

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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2018, 05:15:43 PM »
I know I'm going to be guilty of --->  :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:

..but because there is so much confusion and mis-information around, I will take this opportunity to once again point out what most of you already know....
..that is that both of those active FOBs are passive FOBs as well....I know I know..you already know this..but down the road someone that doesn't will stumble across this thread
about keys and go "HUH? I didn't know that."  So this is a just a in case post.

I was just thinking that storing an active FOB on your bike might not be a good idea  ;D.  Even if theft was not an issue I'm not sure if it was built with the long term elements in mind. 
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2018, 05:29:06 PM »
I leave mine in the tank bag.

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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2018, 11:53:36 PM »
I was just thinking that storing an active FOB on your bike might not be a good idea  ;D.  Even if theft was not an issue I'm not sure if it was built with the long term elements in mind. 

Understood, and I like your idea and agree with your thoughts. The way you worded it however, might confuse a newb so I was just bangin' on a horse so we don't inadvertently become a part of the
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2018, 05:44:16 PM »
Update:

I took the stove key and FOB in and the locksmith at first said he didn't have the blank and that I would have to get it from Kawasaki and he would cut it.  I explained that there were no specific blanks for this application and just wanted a gas cap key.  He was bale to use the FOB key to cut me an extra key that works like a champ. 

Then I explained about wanting a spare passive FOB made from a Ford blank.  He tested my FOB and said he could do it but it was going to be $80, so I held off that.  Is that the going rate for a smart key?   
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2018, 06:27:41 PM »
Then I explained about wanting a spare passive FOB made from a Ford blank.  He tested my FOB and  said he could do it but it was going to be $80, so I held off that.  Is that the going rate for a smart key?

That seems a bit high to me, based on my poor memory of what others have said they paid.  $50 seems more reasonable...

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=18252.msg248160#msg248160
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=18252.msg258040#msg258040

You can buy a genuine Kawasaki passive fob for around $35 online, but then you have to bring it and the bike to a dealer and pay $$$$ to have it added to the ECU.  So you do have to factor the TOTAL cost of the key.  $80 is actually not crazy when you figure a dealer is likely to charge something like $35 or more for the special-order fob + another $50 to program it + you still have to go somewhere to have the physical key cut, which is another $10 or something.

The active fob- well, that is a LOT more.
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2018, 03:33:48 PM »
Smokin' is not correct again, in his statement you can't get key blanks... should have asked before posting a fallacy.. sorry.

I just went thru this for someone wanting a new stove knob cut, so here, all the keys, and differences, and KAW p/n's for replacement blanks below, and attached picture...

27008   27008-0048   KEY-LOCK,BLANK,#A
27008A   27008-0049   KEY-LOCK,BLANK,#B

27008B   27008-0050   KEY-LOCK,BLANK,#A,MAIN SWITCH
27008C   27008-0051   KEY-LOCK,BLANK,#B,MAIN SWITCH

27008D   27008-0062   KEY-LOCK,BLANK,#A,SPARE FOB
27008E   27008-0063   KEY-LOCK,BLANK,#B,SPARE FOB


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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2018, 10:26:07 PM »
Smokin' is not correct again, in his statement you can't get key blanks... should have asked before posting a fallacy.. sorry.

I stand corrected, I have an 08 that came with two active FOBS and the two mini keys contained in them.  I didn't think about later models that come with a passive FOB.       

My real point was, the locksmith was ready to send me on my way before I could convince him there was an aftermarket blank that would work.

Thanks for providing the part numbers MOB, it's good to know the FOB key blanks are available.           

 

   
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2018, 08:49:26 PM »
Gee I've been using the ignition all these years,  what's the problem :o
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