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Mish mash => Open Forum => Topic started by: mellow yellow on August 08, 2018, 07:24:56 PM
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Hello all, have been wearing scorpion helmets for past few years. decided to try a Bell helmet, since I heard that they had a good rep. as per the title of this post. don't know what it's for. my Scorpion helmets didn't have it. it's small on the bottom of the visor on the side. looks like two little screws are holding it onto the visor. Thanks
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Could you possibly post a photo for identification?
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Which model Bell helmet....If it's on the left side it might be for raising and lowering the visor
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I think some Bell helmets come with a visor lock lever that utilizes the "little black plastic thingy" to lock the visor in the down position (why?: I don't know, perhaps it makes it tighter to prevent water incursion and/or wind noise? Safety?).
It appears to only be found on Bell's "Click Release Shields" I believe the lock locking lever has 3 positions Open, locked, and cracked.
(http://e.ridersdiscount.com/forum/bell/bell_star_matte_black_carbon-2.jpg)
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It appears to only be found on Bell's "Click Release Shields" I believe the lock has 3 positions Open, locked, and cracked.
I believe I have all three functions on my Scorpions and Shoei, but nothing "special" or extra on the shields. Not sure why they find they need the black thingy. "hmmm"
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I believe I have all three functions on my Scorpions and Shoei, but nothing "special" or extra on the shields. Not sure why they find they need the black thingy. "hmmm"
Well, to be clear I was referring to the lever position not the visor position. Push the lever back and it engages the black thingy so that the visor won't open even with a push on the tab. Push the lever forward and it unlocks the visor, and push it forward a little more and it cracks open the visor just a bit. Further opening must be done with a upward push on the visor tab. I have a Nolan so I'm just guessing here, but a lever lock and an adjustable notching system are not the same thing. I wasn't aware of any locking visors on Shoei helmets, just a push with a thumb and a Shoei visor goes up into various positions, right?
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I wasn't aware of any locking visors on Shoei helmets, just a push with a thumb and a Shoei visor goes up into various positions, right?
You might be right about the Shoei- I am not sure because I am not using the Shoei due to the pain issues. The Scorpion, however, absolutely can... I have locked it accidentally several times; the control lever is lock/unlock/crack. Just as you described.
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I think some Bell helmets come with a visor lock lever that utilizes the "little black plastic thingy" to lock the visor in the down position (why?: I don't know, perhaps it makes it tighter to prevent water incursion and/or wind noise? Safety?).
It appears to only be found on Bell's "Click Release Shields" I believe the lock locking lever has 3 positions Open, locked, and cracked.
(http://e.ridersdiscount.com/forum/bell/bell_star_matte_black_carbon-2.jpg)
looks like what you have on the side of your pic. but mines didn't come with the pivoting lever. it's a Bell qualifier helmet. here's a pic.
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looks like what you have on the side of your pic. but mines didn't come with the pivoting lever. it's a Bell qualifier helmet. here's a pic.
Maybe your particular helmet model doesn't have the lock/vent lever feature, but the shield does, so it is just not used.
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All my Scorpions had the three lever positioning.
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looks like what you have on the side of your pic. but mines didn't come with the pivoting lever. it's a Bell qualifier helmet. here's a pic.
Unrelated to your original question, and it looks as if it's been answered. I'd like to know how You like the Bell as compared to a Scorpion. My recent crash, I was wearing the Scorpion EXO 1000, but it's not made anymore. So, I'm thinking about the new Bell Star MIPS, with a transitions face shield. Do You like Your Bell?
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Unrelated to your original question, and it looks as if it's been answered. I'd like to know how You like the Bell as compared to a Scorpion. My recent crash, I was wearing the Scorpion EXO 1000, but it's not made anymore. So, I'm thinking about the new Bell Star MIPS, with a transitions face shield. Do You like Your Bell?
well, it's definitely lighter than my scorpion exo-400 it's got the european ece or whatever rating and it has spacing around the ears so that you can wear ear buds. the scorpion shield I believe has better anti-fog than the bell. I noticed that the helmet is just 2 months old and the padding where the chin strap is attached is already fraying. the qualifier model that I have is on the entry level of helmets. maybe this could be the reason. but so is my exo400. but I've had it for a few years already and there's no fraying in that area. luckily, Bell has a generous warranty. I called and they'll be shipping me a new helmet. I might try a HJC, since that was the brand I started with when I began riding. Scorpions are getting a bit too pricey. I'm semi-retired, so gotta be a little frugal.
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well, it's definitely lighter than my scorpion exo-400 it's got the european ece or whatever rating and it has spacing around the ears so that you can wear ear buds. the scorpion shield I believe has better anti-fog than the bell. I noticed that the helmet is just 2 months old and the padding where the chin strap is attached is already fraying. the qualifier model that I have is on the entry level of helmets. maybe this could be the reason. but so is my exo400. but I've had it for a few years already and there's no fraying in that area. luckily, Bell has a generous warranty. I called and they'll be shipping me a new helmet. I might try a HJC, since that was the brand I started with when I began riding. Scorpions are getting a bit too pricey. I'm semi-retired, so gotta be a little frugal.
Good info. Thanks so much. Happy riding.
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I use mine in cold weather riding to keep the inside of the shield from fogging up. It lets in just enough air to flush the moisture from my breath but not put the freeze on my face. (Living at 8,600' makes this a really nice feature.)
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My Shoei RF1000 has a visor lock lever on the left side that also acts to crack the visor a little at the bottom for anti-fogging, perhaps the Bell design is the same. You could Google that.
https://www.webbikeworld.com/shoei-rf-1000-review/ (https://www.webbikeworld.com/shoei-rf-1000-review/)
Scroll down to the section under "Faceshield".
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I use mine in cold weather riding to keep the inside of the shield from fogging up................................makes this a really nice feature.)
Exactly the purpose.