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Mish mash => Open Forum => Topic started by: Son of Pappy on November 21, 2012, 12:09:51 AM
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Been 72 hours since my last chew. 2nd morning woke up with the shakes and feeling sick. First cup of coffe tested my will. I'm using the 2mg gum to help. I'm thinking the next week will be better than the last 3 days as rumor has it the chemical addiction is broke after 72 hours.
The why? I love my wife and to show solidarity I decided to join her (she has COPD) as she has no choice. I was rather blunt and cold, I told her this is the last time I quit and I expected the same from her. Wish us well and I would ask, is there anyone else out there who wants to give it a shot? Jay??? I'm already decideing what farkles to buy with the money I save. New panniers for the GS, new battery for Silverdammit, and a trip south for me. All it needs to do is cut back on the rain, 2 inches a day is a bit much for a 4 hour ride each way.
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Good for you and your SO, Chet!! The money is a great motivator, as the savings will add up quick! Just keep that money separate from all other monies,
it's a motivational thing.. As for myself, a recovering pack and a half a day man, I'm saving close to 10 bucks a day here in SE Pennsylvania. It's been
67 months, 4 days, and 15 hours, 11 minutes to date since I quit, not that I'm counting... And a whopping savings of $20,145.00 as of today.
Now, that's MY money. I can go back to smoking anytime, BUT I have to fund it by selling off my toys.. That's just not going to happen.
I've grown rather fond of my toys, and nobody can play with them except ME. minemineminemineminemine.. This is my reward for quitting the
hardest habit. Leaving the wicked friend. What a bitch she was. I'm fatter, healthier, and my knee, that just would not recover fully after serious surgery,
to finally heal to almost pain-free. The doctor told me that's because I quit the cancer sticks. My house, oh God, my house smelled like an ash tray, and I never
knew it, 'cause I couldn't smell it until I quit. After a few weeks from quitting, I had all the carpets and furniture cleaned, called all my family and friends
that didn't smoke, and apologized to them, admitting that I never knew what they put up with when visiting me at my home. I cleaned all my clothes, coats, jackets, blankets.
I painted my entire interior, what a coating that damn nicotine leaves on everything! Sold my truck, bought a new car and financed it with just the savings.
As for me, no cancer showing up yet, knock on wood. This is personal, but it needs to be shared. I hope to hear your story of success, and your final good bye
to your and SO's habit. Sorry for carrying on, but this testimony is good for the soul, and a reach out to all who may need a helping hand out of the
trenches of tobacco dependence.
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Keep strong Chet! :thumbs:
Both you and your wife are giving up the chew? :o
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Thanks to both of you for sharing. I quit smoking cigs years ago and went for a good time without the weed. I started smoking for a short while after my divorce and then switched to chew and then snus. My lungs feel good but my mouth is taking a beating. Amazing when you do the math. $20,000+ savings in 6 yrs buys alot of cool stuff but the health benefit is the real prize. My dad had COPD and other heart trouble but wouldn't (couldn't?) give up the cigs. I believe continuing to smoke after developing these illnesses took him sooner than otherwise. A few days ago my son, 8 yrs old, asked me what I was putting in my mouth and I told him "adult candy". He asked if he could try one. I said no and he asked why. I did not give an answer. I need to quit.
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Great job guys!!! It is such a horrible habit. TOBACCO in any form.
This May will be my 20th smoke free anniversary. I started smoking between 9 and 10 and during that second quarter of my life I pushed them to 2 and a half packs a day. Nasty-nasty. I would smoke 7-8 cigs before punching in to work. I now can't even figure out how I smoked that much, but I think it surprises anyone after they quit. I spent the first 3-4 weeks very sick and almost gave up. Somehow managed to pull it off.
So congrats to anyone to free themselves from the biggest burden I ever broke free from. Stay strong!!!!
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Both you and your wife are giving up the chew? :o
I was thinking the same thing.
After reading it in print in your post, I got the mental image of a couple of teen lovers swapping their gum when kissing. :rotflmao: :pukeface: :rotflmao: :pukeface: Can't decide which smiley works better for that image.
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Thanks guys!! No, she is/was a butt sucker. I think her biggest challenge will be the little $20 casino night.
Gonna see how long I can hold out today without chewing the gum, I slept better last night and didn't wakeup in a puddle of sweat this morning so everything is indeed getting better.
Toxz, join in the pain and suffering, misery loves company ;D
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Hang in the Chet!
Ya gottawanna in order to quit.
Dad cold turkeyed after 60 years of Pall Malls...only after the doc said he had emphysema.
He lasted 8 years after that but the last few weren't worth living.
I wish you and the wife the best of luck.
You can do it!
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Good luck Chet!
FWIW I've found that in the first couple weeks (at least for me) that doing the patches and the nic gum together seemed to help fight the craving the best. I would always wear the strongest strength patch and then in moments of craving chew the strongest strength nic gum. Doing one or the other never seemed to be enough nic for me, but I do chew quite a bit, odds are if I'm not eating or sleeping I have a chew in, I go through about 10 cans a week... The toughest times for me were always during the morning coffee, after eating, and drinking beer, which are obviously tough things to avoid. :(
I found that having something big as a motivater mentally is the way to go, at least for me. The longest I ever quit was when I bought my Carrera Turbo, I told myself that if I bought it I would quit and I did, everytime I felt weak I'd just go for a drive in that car or even just hang out in the garage with it and that helped me big time mentally. After I sold that car though I somehow stumbled back into it... :-\
I wish ya all the best bro! :chugbeer:
Gumbi chewed for quite some time too and kicked it a while back, he might have some insight on what worked for him.
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Good luck, Chet.
My last smoke was Aug. 27, 1980. That was the day before my first child was born. That was my motivation to go "cold turkey".
Wasn't as hard as it would have been if I had waited until today. I was still young and the addiction wasn't as strong. I wish you both well.
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Good on ya!
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Thanks again guys, my biggest motivator? Incentive for the misses to stay off the butts, I wanna keep her around as long as possible. COPD is a disease of her making and quitting is nothing more than a means of slowing things down a bit. Nothing can be done to reverse the damage but we can at least delay when she goes on the bottle. I'm thinking of converting a fuel cell holder on the panniers to an 02 holder for our trips into the woods :)
I did 7-9 cans a week since I was 15ish, quit 3 times for a year each, quit smoking back in 85, never went back to that. This WILL be the last time I quit, the only thing that would put me back would be for my wife to start smoking again, nothing sucks more than quitting daily, each and every morning. Yes, I am using this as leverage for her to stay off the smokes and yes, I would use this as a HUGE guilt trip should she start again. She's my best friend and I will do anything to keep her around as long as possible, the world needs more Mona's.
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Congrats and good luck! :)
I quit smoking the day of my back fusion, 1/9/2012... box of Marlboro 100's a day at least. I missed a smoke with my morning coffee for a while, then that went away... now don't even think of it.
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Gumbi chewed for quite some time too and kicked it a while back, he might have some insight on what worked for him.
Yes, I quit almost four years ago now, I don't even think about it anymore. I always thought to myself why am I putting this rot gut crap in my mouth if it really does nothing for me. I know beer is not good for me either but at least if makes me feel better. :chugbeer:
Ten cans a week? :nuts:
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I watched my mom die a slow death from COPD and other smoking related diseases. She never got cancer from it, but dad did. He died at 45 from lung cancer. Stop smoking, chewing, whatever if you can. When I was in rescue I took many a COPD patient in. Not a pleasant way to die (not that there is one that's not unless it's totally sudden or in your sleep). :thumbs: if you can. It's a craving that never goes totally away. My mom told me she would love to smoke another one and that's being off of it for nearly 6 years after smoking until her early 70's. But she held off and lived a fairly decent life until about Fall of 2011.
It's funny, though. I don't hold any animosity (I think I should) against the tobacco manufacturers or the growers. I just think it's sad all over. :'(
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Yes, I quit almost four years ago now, I don't even think about it anymore. I always thought to myself why am I putting this rot gut crap in my mouth if it really does nothing for me. I know beer is not good for me either but at least if makes me feel better. :chugbeer:
Ten cans a week? :nuts:
That's my vice as well, if you didn't already know it. I love a good drink or two. Not to excess, but about once a night or maybe more depending on the mood. It's strange with alcohol, if I'm down for whatever reason, it does absolutely nothing. I'm an enigma, I think.
I tried smoking a cigarette when I was a teenager and got nothing out of it. I've smoked one cigarette in 56 years. Cigars on the other hand (I didn't inhale) I enjoyed quite a bit, especially Cubans. But I haven't had one of those in years.
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I had a Cuban once, they are much fun ;D
http://youtu.be/mGKYoYIrAg8 (http://youtu.be/mGKYoYIrAg8)
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OK... there is something to be said about a good Cuban Partagas robusto and a nice single malt scotch. 8)
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So, come on fellas, who's joining in the quit craze? Jay? If Gumbi can do it?
I'm doing fairly good today, only on the third piece of gum, cleaned the house, vacumed, did the wood floors, dishes, heck, I even finally washed my dirt boots, they was caked like a clay pot. Next up? The dogs need a bath.
Dag nab it, I need a smoke after that vid Gumbi >:( ;) Nice body art BTW, I sure wish I could hold a paintbrush to help with the cause.
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Mmmm.... Cuban, I love finger painting too, thanks Gumbi! :thumbs: :chugbeer:
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So, come on fellas, who's joining in the quit craze? Jay? If Gumbi can do it?
Sorry bro, if I scale back on anything it will be the drinking... :o
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Day 9, still off the dip. Still missing it >:(
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Day 9, still off the dip. Still missing it >:(
Keep it up. You can do it.
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I was a deployment smoker due to the stress and have kicked it, except a cigar or two per week. I still sneak a smoke every now and then, drinking booze seems to be a trigger for me. ::)
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Good luck Chet!
FWIW I've found that in the first couple weeks (at least for me) that doing the patches and the nic gum together seemed to help fight the craving the best. I would always wear the strongest strength patch and then in moments of craving chew the strongest strength nic gum. Doing one or the other never seemed to be enough nic for me, but I do chew quite a bit, odds are if I'm not eating or sleeping I have a chew in, I go through about 10 cans a week... The toughest times for me were always during the morning coffee, after eating, and drinking beer, which are obviously tough things to avoid. :(
I found that having something big as a motivater mentally is the way to go, at least for me. The longest I ever quit was when I bought my Carrera Turbo, I told myself that if I bought it I would quit and I did, everytime I felt weak I'd just go for a drive in that car or even just hang out in the garage with it and that helped me big time mentally. After I sold that car though I somehow stumbled back into it... :-\
I wish ya all the best bro! :chugbeer:
Gumbi chewed for quite some time too and kicked it a while back, he might have some insight on what worked for him.
Holy **** J!?!?! Ten cans a week? :o :yikes: :pukeface:
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I have not drank beer for two days now. I told myself I would not drink until my next beer is ready, which should be about 1 1/2 - 2 weeks.
I'm gonna hit the gym everyday til then as well.
Chet, you're inspiring, keep it up :thumbs:
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I have not drank beer for two days now. I told myself I would not drink until my next beer is ready, which should be about 1 1/2 - 2 weeks.
I'm gonna hit the gym everyday til then as well.
Chet, you're inspiring, keep it up :thumbs:
All work and no beer will make Gumbi a bit edgy... look out everyone. :o
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All work and no beer will make Gumbi a bit edgy... look out everyone. :o
If he can give up beer, certainly you could give up the snuff, less of course you admit to be the lessor/weaker minded Oregonean ;)
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If he can give up beer, certainly you could give up the snuff, less of course you admit to be the lessor/weaker minded Oregonean ;)
Yes, I'm weak minded Chet... :) :-\ :( (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/swiqe.gif)
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Yes, I'm weak minded Chet... :) :-\ :( (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/swiqe.gif)
That isn't how child psychology is supposed to work. Your 'sposed to loudly proclaim "That aint so, I can quit whenever I want". ;D
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That isn't how child psychology is supposed to work. Your 'sposed to loudly proclaim "That aint so, I can quit whenever I want". ;D
;D ;D ;D
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/these_are_not_the_droids.jpg)
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That isn't how child psychology is supposed to work. Your 'sposed to loudly proclaim "That aint so, I can quit whenever I want". ;D
Maybe you need to get a child to try that tactic out on him C?
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Maybe you need to get a child to try that tactic out on him C?
Great idea, Gumbi, care to HBO? :)
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I was thinking you should resort to infant psychology on Jay. :)
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http://www.livestrong.com/article/423361-does-licorice-help-to-quit-smoking/ (http://www.livestrong.com/article/423361-does-licorice-help-to-quit-smoking/)
Black licorice should work nicely, candy is great for the kids ;D
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Great idea, Gumbi, care to HBO? :)
I was curious about HBO all the way to work. I think I figured it out.
http://www.acronymfinder.com/HBO.html (http://www.acronymfinder.com/HBO.html)
Hoger Beroeps Onderwijs = Higher Vocational Education
Now I am even more confused. ??? :)
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;D :grouphug: :chugbeer:
Oh, and Gumbi, HBO = help a brutha out... ;)
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(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/emoticons/duh2.gif)
Well duh!
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That's no moon.
That's No Moon (Thumb Wars) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD_wA116c5I#ws)
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I have not drank beer for two days now.
I am losing a pound a day, four days and four lbs. down. ;D
How you doing Chet?
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I am losing a pound a day, four days in four lbs. down. ;D
I'll start saving my clothes that are tight on me for ya bro... ;)
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I am losing a pound a day, four days and four lbs. down. ;D
How you doing Chet?
Barely maintaining my fine feminine figure ;) I was fearfull I would gain massive quantities of lost weight, but so far I am holding a steady 206.
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Barely maintaining my fine feminine figure ;) I was fearfull I would gain massive quantities of lost weight, but so far I am holding a steady 206.
Um what? I doubt that you'll gain any quantities of lost weight, it's the other way around that is the problem. :o
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Dipped Copenhagan for 28 years. Can to a can-and-a-half a day! Quit June of 2006 and haven't touched it since. Mouth sores so bad that I was putting it in my upper lip. Esophagus spasms and scaring from juice swallow and stomach acid, and the fact that it went over $5 a can made me decide to quit.
I now have to worry about esophagus cancer too because of the increased scaring for the rest of my life.
Tried to go cold-turkey but got so sick the next morning from withdrawl that I blacked out once in front of a co-worker. She immediately took me to the store for a can just to get me through the day and suggested I use the patch. Did a full patch for a few days then cut it in half for a couple weeks. Got to say, it was quite easy doing it that way!
Now I will admit, I probably still to this day think about Copenhagan almost every day. Just glad I haven't given into it!!!
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Nicely done Rush. Day 2 I woke up in a cold sweat and feeling like the toilet was under my pillow. Started somewhere around '76, quit 3 times, for a year each, I vow that this will be the last time I quit, if I ever start again I'll meet the maker with a dip in ma lip. Did a little ride today out at Tahuya, rained the whole time, puddles never got more than knee deep, roots are still as slick as owl stuff, and it hurts when ya hit the ground. 13 miles of single track, I am whooped for sure, all I have left to do for the day is 50 laps at the pool. Finding that staying active helps a ton, but it's almost as painfull :)
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Don't do it Chet- my experience has been that 100% of the fuel cells installed in your garage leak.... and badly too. ;D ;D
By the way, has that gas station down the road finished evaporating yet?
Brian
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I'm thinking of converting a fuel cell holder on the panniers to an 02 holder for our trips into the woods :)
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Don't do it Chet- my experience has been that 100% of the fuel cells installed in your garage leak.... and badly too. ;D ;D
By the way, has that gas station down the road finished evaporating yet?
Brian
They got shut down by the EPA. The FBI is still looking for a guy with some foreign accent and a phrase he was heard muttering, "Just like sex, only gooder". Store was owned by the Amish Mafia, I sure feel for the guy whenever they catch up to him. Lucky for him they only had enough hay for the first 50 miles. ;D
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Good 'cause that place was a little scary- even Mr. Elkhoof was put off by the excessive fumes. And it was kinda' slippery moving around in the parking lot too. By the way, the root cause of the leak was a burr on the inside of fuel tank cutting the O-ring; putting the step drill inside the tank and making a few turns while pulling it into the hole serves to de- burr the hole and end the problem. Wider, flat seals under the head of the bung fitting help too but the burr was the main culprit.
Back to the quitting tobacco thing- I quit so I could ride long distance on a motorcycle. Smoking while riding is no problem and lighting cigarettes while on the highway was no problem either (some lighters really are windproof) but I cannot ride and smoke in the rain. So I quit before going on my first thousand mile run. Funny thing but I really didn't expect to quit- I smoked the last cigarette I had at about 6:30 at night (March 29) and figured when I could not stand it anymore I would go down to the store and buy some more smokes. That could still happen but it hasn't happened yet. I used Chantix and I think it really worked well because it breaks the addiction (more or less) before you actually quit using tobacco; it is a funny thing but I was smoking away and yet it seemed to have no effect due to the Chantix. So when I actually stopped smoking, I had probably been 3 weeks without responding to the nicotine anyway and the urge never got all that bad. I was a hard- core smoker too, 2+ packs a day, regular breaks walking out of restaurants to smoke during dinner, etc. No one is more surprised than I that I quit and frankly I never thought it would happen. I do not know if Chantix is used for dipping or chew but it should work the same way it does for smoking- it blocks the uptake of nicotine and so breaks the habit and therefore the need while you are still indulging in the use of tobacco.
A long time ago I had a conversation with a gentleman and I stated that I thought smoking was about 1/3 habit, 1/3 hobby (lots of tinkering involved with smoking) and 1/3 addiction. His thought was that it was nearly 100% addiction and that addiction feeds whatever emotions or mental needs necessary to feed that addiction. He pointed out that it was simply not natural or desirable to inject one's self with syringes, especially in some rather.... er, 'nasty' places but that action (shooting up) was the need spurred on by the addiction and would eventually seem like it was actually desirable to the user. Now that I have quit for a while I think he was a lot more correct than I was- it is not natural or desirable to inhale gobs of smoke and I think that most of the part where I thought I really liked smoking was just a mental response to feed the addiction.
At any rate, best of luck to you and Mrs. Chet in quitting if that is what you want to do. I pride myself on not being a rabid (or even mild) anti- smoker and do not chastise others who may smoke, dip or whatever. In fact, people can still smoke in my house. But I do not think there is much of an argument that it is generally bad for health and overall a negative thing to have a large percentage of smokers in the population. Still, I can't bring myself to beat on those who are merely doing what I did for so many years, and what remains a perfectly legal and legitimate thing to do.
Brian
They got shut down by the EPA. The FBI is still looking for a guy with some foreign accent and a phrase he was heard muttering, "Just like sex, only gooder". Store was owned by the Amish Mafia, I sure feel for the guy whenever they catch up to him. Lucky for him they only had enough hay for the first 50 miles. ;D
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Stay strong.....the "habit" is what is the hardest to break, the body actually detoxifies itself pretty quickly. Wellbutrin is actually a very good smoking and nicotine cessation, good buddy of mine quit cold turkey and took that for around 6 months. He responded very well and has been smoke free now going on 2 years, tobacco is such a bad discovery.
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So, end of day 2 with no nicotine aid, the nic fits hit fast and furious, all I can do is keep busy, so today went like this, rode YZ for an hour, went to the pool, did 51 laps, went to brothers house for dinner with his family and our father, wish I could be out riding right now, the YZ is finally dialed in and a pleasure to ride, new Q4 pipe, new Acerbis tank on the way, new plastics.
To all you youngsters, you know who you are, quit while the addiction is fairly new, it gets harder to quit the longer you are an addict.
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Day five with no nic aid. Hits still keep coming, came close a few times to just saying screw it. Yesterday spent over 5 hours in meetings and then a couple hours at emails. THAT was by far the worst. I have cheated twice, kinda, I open the can and take a quick whiff, calms things down real quick. Time to go do a couple laps on the dirt bike :)
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How ya doing on this Chet?
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How ya doing on this Chet?
17 Pounds later I said screw it. I will try again this spring when I am more physically active. What a powerfull drug. Almost made it a month, decided the weight was worse and sitting at anything was torture. It was costly, new bits for the YZ, and GS left me $3k+ lighter in the wallet. I almost feel like Jay 8)
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17 Pounds later I said screw it. I will try again this spring when I am more physically active. What a powerfull drug. Almost made it a month, decided the weight was worse and sitting at anything was torture.
Sorry to hear Chet... :'(
So what about mama, she start back up with the butts once you caved? :-\
It was costly, new bits for the YZ, and GS left me $3k+ lighter in the wallet. I almost feel like Jay 8)
:o All the more reason for me not to try quittin anytime soon... ;D
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Get back at it right now! You were doing it, you slipped, so what! Get up and get back at it. So you gained a bit, I gain and lose 17 pounds a week, you'll get over that in due time. If you gotta sniff your can sniff your can, sniff your shorts if that helps, just get back at it. You owe it to the Mrs. and yourself.
I know it's hard... believe me, but you can't quit when you're still doing it.
It will happen.
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17 Pounds later I said screw it.
Sorry to hear that. It is very hard I know, but once ya quit for good it is well worth it. Is for me anyways, I don't ever think about it anymore.
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I quit many times Chet. Been addicted for 30 years. My best run lasted 6 months when I went on the prescription “Chantix”. I highly recommend it. I don’t remember all of the potential side effects this drug had, but I got the best one. . .weird and vivid dreams. I couldn’t wait to get to sleep; it was like being in a movie every night! ‘course I stumbled, I had a really bad day at work and couldn’t focus on my task and bummed a nicoret gum and the world was right again, but I needed more and got back on the Cope. I gave the Chantix a second shot, but it seems that I built up an immunity to it and it had no affect at all. January 1st is around the corner and I’m not looking forward to the New Year’s resolution. Chewing sucks.
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Get back on the horse Chet! So what if you fell off. You can beat that junk.
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Get back on the horse Chet! So what if you fell off. You can beat that junk.
I will. I think it would be easier giving up sex though :o. I'm going to quit it this spring, (Cope, NOT sex).
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I will. I think it would be easier giving up sex though :o. I'm going to quit it this spring, (Cope, NOT sex).
That's crazy talk right there! :o
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That's crazy talk right there! :o
Well I started chewing before I started screwing and I have never had a can complain of headaches and cramps 8)
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Well I started chewing before I started screwing and I have never had a can complain of headaches and cramps 8)
No can of dried leaves will ever have the beautiful curves my misses has, will never smell as good, will never be as warm and pleasant to the touch ...
I think I'll leave it right there; I think my point is made :P :o ;D