Author Topic: Gas Cap Lubrication (Read 22502 times)

Flat-spot · « **Reply #20 on:** November 21, 2016, 04:27:31 AM »

Speaking of non-ethanol fuel, get the app "Pure Gas" for your smart phone. It shows you where you can find it.

But yep, still lots of dead areas. I have to drive 25 miles for my closest source.

EDIT: Sorry JH, I failed to notice you already mentioned this.

Conrad · « **Reply #21 on:** November 21, 2016, 05:56:20 AM »

Quote from: jwh20 on November 20, 2016, 03:40:03 PM

Prevention is the best medicine here. If at all possible, do NOT let the bike sit for any significant length of time with Ethanol-laced fuel in it.

See :

http://www.pure-gas.org/

For sources near you!

Thanks for this! The last time that I checked that site there were no sources of non ethanol gas in my area. Now I see that there is and just 5 miles away at a Farm Service station.

jwh20 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 21, 2016, 06:14:34 AM »

Quote from: Conrad on November 21, 2016, 05:56:20 AM

Thanks for this! The last time that I checked that site there were no sources of non ethanol gas in my area. Now I see that there is and just 5 miles away at a Farm Service station.

The PureGas site is invaluable and they have an app also. But not all sources are listed. Some common places to find E0:

1) Marinas.
2) Airports, especially those that cater to local private plane owners.
3) Farming supply outfits like the Farm Bureau Coops.
4) Home improvement centers. While pricey many are now selling "TruFuel" and there is an oil-free/ethanol-free version:

http://trufuel50.com/product-info/4-cycle/

I don't think I'd fill up with this stuff due to cost but it's a LOT cheaper than fuel system issues!

I used to have an annual ritual of figuring out which of my power equipment carbs needed to be rebuilt. But since I started using E0 fuel from my local Countrymark Coop, I've had no issues at all! It's about $0.25 more per gallon than E10 PREMIUM but you can buy a LOT of gas for the price of a carb rebuild kit!

seagiant · « **Reply #23 on:** November 21, 2016, 06:44:55 PM »

Hi,
I throw in some Techron every tank! (or every other!)

maxtog · « **Reply #24 on:** November 21, 2016, 11:48:45 PM »

Quote from: seagiant on November 21, 2016, 06:44:55 PM

I throw in some Techron every tank! (or every other!)

I don't think Techron will help with any issues that revolve around ethanol in gas (such as lost power, wasted money, corrosion, and water attraction). This is not to say Techron isn't good stuff- I like to run some through all my vehicles once or twice a year. It is designed to help keep injectors clean and reduce deposits. But I am also pretty sure it is not worth using dozens of times a year; all modern gas has useful additives for helping to reduce deposits and keep injectors clean (and despite massive marketing efforts, other than octane level, there is nothing "premium" about high octane gas- it doesn't clean better or have more or different additives, and for engines that don't need it, it REDUCES efficiency/power and wastes money).

I am not even sure how much ethanol is to blame for the big issues lots of us have with the gas cap latch mechanism being messed up constantly. Although I suspect it is a major player. Personally, I have no way to test it because there is no practical method for obtaining E0 here. I do keep hoping that will change one day, but I won't hold my breath....

gPink · « **Reply #25 on:** November 22, 2016, 03:27:51 AM »

You could just make your own E0 from E10.

VirginiaJim · « **Reply #26 on:** November 22, 2016, 05:51:01 AM »

And then there's this...

! No longer available

gPink · « **Reply #27 on:** November 22, 2016, 06:16:12 AM »

Darwin award 1st runnerup?

VirginiaJim · « **Reply #28 on:** November 22, 2016, 10:03:51 AM »

That and messing around with gasoline..

gPink · « **Reply #29 on:** November 22, 2016, 10:10:32 AM »

Removing alky is easy. Just add water.

Conrad · « **Reply #30 on:** November 22, 2016, 10:29:52 AM »

Quote from: VirginiaJim on November 22, 2016, 05:51:01 AM

And then there's this...

! No longer available

WTF? Gasoline is explosive?

Who knew?

gPink · « **Reply #31 on:** November 22, 2016, 10:52:43 AM »

Naw...you can put a match out in gasoline....if you can get past the vapors.

VirginiaJim · « **Reply #32 on:** November 22, 2016, 03:16:31 PM »

I'm feeling a bout of the vapors coming on..

gPink · « **Reply #33 on:** November 22, 2016, 05:55:52 PM »

Probably just a hot flash.

Conrad · « **Reply #34 on:** November 22, 2016, 06:08:04 PM »

Quote from: VirginiaJim on November 22, 2016, 03:16:31 PM

I'm feeling a bout of the vapors coming on..

Who's gotta match?

maxtog · « **Reply #35 on:** November 22, 2016, 08:01:22 PM »

Yeesh...

Cuda · « **Reply #36 on:** November 25, 2016, 08:45:12 PM »

Quote from: maxtog on November 20, 2016, 03:56:18 PM

Unfortunately, ethanol-free gas is not available for many people... I would be one of them. Nothing for many hundreds of square miles, covering millions of people.

Just get your own 500 gal tank

I have road and off road diesel along with real gas out back

Boeshield T 9 is your friend

Rick Hall · « **Reply #37 on:** November 25, 2016, 09:32:07 PM »

[on-topic]
Can anybody report back how the aviation fuel lube works?

[off topic]

Quote from: maxtog on November 20, 2016, 03:56:18 PM

Unfortunately, ethanol-free gas is not available for many people... I would be one of them. ...

Any General Aviation airport, ask for 100LL (low lead). Bring your own metal jerry cans (don't ask). If they ask, tell 'em it's for a '49 tractor, as it has lead in it (duh).
With luck, they may also sell MOGAS. Which is automotive 'pump' gas, ~93 octane, lead and ETOH free.

In both cases, it can be expensive, the 100LL more so.

On another front, a company, let's call them "Swift Fuels", is testing a lead free substitute for 100LL. If not aware, most every piston airplane engine requires 100LL (or better), and it's NOT necessarilly because of the lead content. Vapor pressure, stable in storage, atomization, cold weather performance, compatibility with rubber bits and pieces, and a raft of other things. It's scarse as hen's teeth right now though.

Rick

Conrad · « **Reply #38 on:** November 26, 2016, 06:23:45 AM »

Ah, good old mogas! I haven't heard that mentioned since my good ole Army days in the motor pool.

seagiant · « **Reply #39 on:** November 29, 2016, 04:18:47 PM »

Quote from: maxtog on November 21, 2016, 11:48:45 PM

I don't think Techron will help with any issues that revolve around ethanol in gas (such as lost power, wasted money, corrosion, and water attraction). This is not to say Techron isn't good stuff- I like to run some through all my vehicles once or twice a year. It is designed to help keep injectors clean and reduce deposits. But I am also pretty sure it is not worth using dozens of times a year; all modern gas has useful additives for helping to reduce deposits and keep injectors clean (and despite massive marketing efforts, other than octane level, there is nothing "premium" about high octane gas- it doesn't clean better or have more or different additives, and for engines that don't need it, it REDUCES efficiency/power and wastes money).

I am not even sure how much ethanol is to blame for the big issues lots of us have with the gas cap latch mechanism being messed up constantly. Although I suspect it is a major player. Personally, I have no way to test it because there is no practical method for obtaining E0 here. I do keep hoping that will change one day, but I won't hold my breath....

Hi,
Well...everyone is welcome to their opinion and free to run their scooter anyway they please.....

You paid for it!

The other thing, I use Techron for, is to "try" to keep the fuel pump filter as clean as I can!

Am I?

I don't know, but we will see, if not, I did what I could!

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Author Topic: Gas Cap Lubrication (Read 22502 times)