Author Topic: How not to change the oil  (Read 728 times)

Offline George R. Young

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How not to change the oil
« on: June 19, 2017, 09:04:38 am »
Fall 2016, returned from a trip, went to change the oil.
The filter (Fram CH6012) comes with a big and a little O-ring. The little O-ring was fine and went happily onto the bolt and into the flange.

Unfortunately, the big O-ring was folded up like a pretzel. I assumed the big O-ring would hold a round shape, once it was stuffed into the flange groove. Unfortunately, during assembly, the big O-ring sneaked out of the groove and was compressed under the flange. Oil flowed out freely. This is onto the garage floor of the condo I had just moved into, where you're not 'supposed' to do engine work in the parking space.

Drained the oil, replaced the new big O-ring with the old one, reassembled, refilled. Perhaps as I was flustered from cursing the pretzel O-ring, I didn't tighten to the 14.5 ft-lb torque I was supposed to. Put the bike away for the winter.

Come spring, I noticed leaking, went through the diagnostic bit, and eventually tightened the damn filter bolt. Now all is well.

Oh, well, it's a hobby.
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Offline DC Concours

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Re: How not to change the oil
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2017, 09:42:41 am »
What did the condo management say?

How often do you change those 2 orings. I haven't replaced mine in 3 oil changes. the big one is now well seated.

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Re: How not to change the oil
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2017, 11:57:16 am »
What did the condo management say?

How often do you change those 2 orings. I haven't replaced mine in 3 oil changes. the big one is now well seated.

I cleaned up the oil mess as best I can with detergent. So far, no complaints.

I was changing the O-rings with every filter, maybe now I'll just leave that one in there.
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Re: How not to change the oil
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2017, 12:11:02 pm »
I figure If they look good, nicely seated and still have a slight outer curvature to seal against the pan why bother changing it. I have been collecting the new ones and will change one out in the future but as you have noticed with new ones they don't seat well and always slip/pop out while tightening the filter and I am afraid of exactly what happened to you.

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Re: How not to change the oil
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2017, 11:35:06 pm »
  George, I know they are a little pricey but the Bergman spin on filter conversion is worth it in the long run!! ;D

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