Author Topic: Angel GT’s (Read 3987 times)

Poseidon · « **on:** April 26, 2018, 04:37:23 PM »

My Angel GT’s arrived today. I still have some miles to ride before I’m going to need them, but I had noticed that the stock B-stones are getting a little thin on tread already. At least on the rear anyway. I saw where Dennis Kirk had a tire sale going on, so I ordered a full set. Ordering front and rear, you get a $50 rebate bringing the total price down to around $300 including the balance beads I ordered and I got free shipping on all of it. I figure I still have about 1000 - 1500 miles left on the stock rear. At that point, I’ll head over to my buddies house to use his NoMar tire changer and swap out both front and rear tires.

gPink · « **Reply #1 on:** April 26, 2018, 05:27:08 PM »

Go ahead and swap. If they're that far gone tread will show before you know it.

Poseidon · « **Reply #2 on:** April 26, 2018, 06:31:14 PM »

They are not too far gone yet. 2800 miles and the middle tread is right at the wear bars. I guess I’ve been enjoying the acceleration a little too much!

gPink · « **Reply #3 on:** April 26, 2018, 06:50:01 PM »

If they are oem Crapstones they were born too far gone.

Tree · « **Reply #4 on:** April 26, 2018, 09:09:47 PM »

When you feel the Angels in the twisties you will definitely say "Why did I wait? These Angels are freaking awesome!" Or something close to that. I love my Angel GT-A's.

Poseidon · « **Reply #5 on:** April 28, 2018, 06:15:54 AM »

Quote from: gPink on April 26, 2018, 06:50:01 PM

If they are oem Crapstones they were born too far gone.

If that is the case, I'm going to absolutely love the Angel GT's. I have had no complaints with the stock Bridgestone's other than how fast they are wearing.

connie14boy · « **Reply #6 on:** April 28, 2018, 08:30:31 AM »

The rear 021 Crapstone is not the problem other that it wears too quickly- it's the front Crapstone that is 'wooden' and will wash out and wobble in high speed sweepers-very dangerous to new riders of this bike. You will have an epiphany with the Angels or PR4s if you ride the way most of us do.

Rubber_Snake · « **Reply #7 on:** April 28, 2018, 09:33:27 AM »

Come by my pad and I’ll change ‘em out for you, Poseidon. I need the practice. It’s not that far a ride to Cali!

Poseidon · « **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2018, 05:01:28 PM »

Quote from: Rubber_Snake on April 28, 2018, 09:33:27 AM

Come by my pad and I’ll change ‘em out for you, Poseidon. I need the practice. It’s not that far a ride to Cali!

Just toss the tire changer in the back of your truck and bring it over. I’ll wait for you to get here. Should I go ahead and pull the wheels off now so they are ready when you get here?

Poseidon · « **Reply #9 on:** April 28, 2018, 05:14:03 PM »

Quote from: connie14boy on April 28, 2018, 08:30:31 AM

The rear 021 Crapstone is not the problem other that it wears too quickly- it's the front Crapstone that is 'wooden' and will wash out and wobble in high speed sweepers-very dangerous to new riders of this bike. You will have an epiphany with the Angels or PR4s if you ride the way most of us do.

I think the C14 handles beautifully, but you have to remember my point of reference. I have never owned a sport bike. I have an M109R with a 280 rear tire and a 160 rear tire mounted backwards on the front. My other bike is a Victory Magnum with a 21” wheel on front. I’m a pretty aggressive rider in the twisty mountain roads regardless which bike I’m riding. None of the tires on any of my bikes have chicken strips, including the Concours, but I still haven’t found the peg feelers on the Concours yet. Looking at the wear on the tires, I had to have been close a few times tho.

Poseidon · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2018, 05:15:36 PM »

Quote from: Rubber_Snake on April 28, 2018, 09:33:27 AM

Come by my pad and I’ll change ‘em out for you, Poseidon. I need the practice. It’s not that far a ride to Cali!

Are you close to getting here yet? Wheels are off and ready for you!

Hahahaha!

connie14boy · « **Reply #11 on:** April 28, 2018, 07:58:40 PM »

Quote from: Poseidon on April 28, 2018, 05:14:03 PM

I think the C14 handles beautifully, but you have to remember my point of reference. I have never owned a sport bike. I have an M109R with a 280 rear tire and a 160 rear tire mounted backwards on the front. My other bike is a Victory Magnum with a 21” wheel on front. I’m a pretty aggressive rider in the twisty mountain roads regardless which bike I’m riding. None of the tires on any of my bikes have chicken strips, including the Concours, but I still haven’t found the peg feelers on the Concours yet. Looking at the wear on the tires, I had to have been close a few times tho.

Well I guess the Crapstone 021's and the seat are now fixed- who'd a thunk it?

maxtog · « **Reply #12 on:** April 28, 2018, 08:36:35 PM »

Quote from: Poseidon on April 28, 2018, 05:14:03 PM

I think the C14 handles beautifully, but you have to remember my point of reference. I have never owned a sport bike.

You are in for a big surprise when you:

1) Get good tires, like PR4GT or Angels
2) Reflash the ECU.

I can certainly understand waiting for both, however. Unless you are used to fast bikes, you won't appreciate the reflashing as much until you are used to what the C14 will do. And tires + mounting is quite expensive.... so getting what you can out of the stock isn't insane. The stock Bridgestones are not completely horrible, at least not at first. But once they wear about half way, they perform horribly. While it is true that just about ANY *new* tire set will feel so much better, what I notice about the PR3GT/4GT is not just that they feel better in general, but that they also seem to feel about the same almost through their entire life (which is amazing).

Poseidon · « **Reply #13 on:** April 28, 2018, 08:50:44 PM »

Quote from: maxtog on April 28, 2018, 08:36:35 PM

You are in for a big surprise when you:

1) Get good tires, like PR4GT or Angels
2) Reflash the ECU.

I can certainly understand waiting for both, however. Unless you are used to fast bikes, you won't appreciate the reflashing as much until you are used to what the C14 will do. And tires + mounting is quite expensive.... so getting what you can out of the stock isn't insane. The stock Bridgestones are not completely horrible, at least not at first. But once they wear about half way, they perform horribly. While it is true that just about ANY *new* tire set will feel so much better, what I notice about the PR3GT/4GT is not just that they feel better in general, but that they also seem to feel about the same almost through their entire life (which is amazing).

I already have the Angel GTs here at the house ready to go when needed. I'll put a few more miles on the stock tires before I switch them out. If I reflash the ECU, it won't be until winter. I like having options when I go out to the garage. I rode the Magnum today. I'm not sure if I'll ride the Concours or the Magnum again tomorrow. There is a charity ride I'm planning to go on with some friends in the morning. My air ride is leaking on the M109. I know where the leak is, I just haven't taken the time to tear into it to fix it yet, so I won't be riding it tomorrow.

Poseidon · « **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2018, 08:54:29 PM »

Quote from: connie14boy on April 28, 2018, 07:58:40 PM

Well I guess the Crapstone 021's and the seat are now fixed- who'd a thunk it?

The stock tires may still be just as bad as you remember them being. Due to the great handling of the Concours, compared to what I'm use to, I just don't see them as being that bad. Maybe that will change once I see how good the Angel GTs are.