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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2011, 11:36:32 AM »
Y'all missed something big in this report. The NTSB is blaming the kid on his cell phone for the crash. He ran into the back of a truck, then TWO school buses ran into him. The NTSB is laming the kid's texting for the buses rear ending him! Why did the two bus drivers not see what was in front of them and take appropriate action? Sad thing is this happened not far from me and NONE of the local "news" organizations are questioning this. Government thinks we are very stupid and won't notice this. Sadly they are right.
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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2011, 12:01:41 PM »
Quote from: Son of Pappy on December 14, 2011, 11:29:22 PM
And hence the comment "Is it abused" comment.  Most are more capable to multi task better then the average driver.  Dedicated Bluetooth setups work really well, tap a button on the steering wheel, say a command, car dials for you, no need to take your eyes off the road.  Calls come in nice and clear, and once done tap a button and the call is over.  Answer is even easier, push and talk.
Know to see a LEO chatting away, maybe smiling while on his ohone, that is simple abuse of power. All that is needed is shoot a shrt video and send it to a local media outlet.  Let things happen naturally.  Kinda hard to argue solid evidence cought on tape.

I will use my favorite Arena word.  Accountable for ones own actions.  start enforceing the law, no freebies, no warnings.  It is what it is and the truth is the truth no matter who believes it.

Great post and I agree!!!!
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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2011, 12:13:37 PM »
Quote from: Cholla on December 16, 2011, 11:36:32 AM
Y'all missed something big in this report. The NTSB is blaming the kid on his cell phone for the crash. He ran into the back of a truck, then TWO school buses ran into him. The NTSB is laming the kid's texting for the buses rear ending him! Why did the two bus drivers not see what was in front of them and take appropriate action? Sad thing is this happened not far from me and NONE of the local "news" organizations are questioning this. Government thinks we are very stupid and won't notice this. Sadly they are right.
:goodpost: Seems like more than one criminally negligent action to me also.
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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2011, 12:41:45 PM »
No worries, today in FL we can still text while ride our Connies. Even with a patrol car riding beside of us  :D
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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2011, 08:50:02 PM »
Quote from: Outback_Jon on December 15, 2011, 09:21:06 AM
Scanners that do trunk-tracking are readily available.

I don't know all the in's and out's of it but I found this about it:

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All San Antonio Police, Fire, and EMS operations use this EDACS ProVoice system. Most operations are in digital mode, and the system uses ESK which prevents most scanners from monitoring public safety communications.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?ctid=2537
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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2011, 09:46:14 PM »
OK, I will be truthful, I didn't read each reply. Why ?, cause it is late and I am tired. But if you ask me, and I know you're not, it is just like Speeding.
It is done all the time, and it is a very small percentage that get caught.
The key is the sentance for doing so. Just my $.02.
Speeding: +10 first time = $250, 2nd time in 1 yr. = $1000, 3rd = $2000 and 3 months behind bars. Anything above 10, fines and incarseration X 2 then 3. Now tell the truth, how many times would you speed now?

Cell Phone usage, in any way: 1st = $250 fine. 2nd = $500 and phone confiscated. 3rd. time = $1000 and license suspended 1 yr.

I know, a pipe dream. The Justice system is so lame and balless, it would never fly. But I bet it would slow that texting down a little bit.
Oh well, time for bad.
Ride safe all.
Greg
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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2011, 10:15:29 PM »
Quote from: timsatx on December 16, 2011, 08:50:02 PM
I don't know all the in's and out's of it but I found this about it:

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?ctid=2537

A little about "ESK".

Not widely used, and apparently it looks like Uniden makes several scanners that can listen in.  (The software is available on that page)  And it is a feature designed by M/A-COM.   :pukeface:  I've had to use their radios in the past.... 

As with anything, if it is transmitted over radio waves, and someone wants to listen in, they can.  Just a question of how badly ($$) they want to listen.
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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2011, 05:51:39 AM »
Quote from: Pfloydgad on December 16, 2011, 09:46:14 PM
OK, I will be truthful, I didn't read each reply. Why ?, cause it is late and I am tired. But if you ask me, and I know you're not, it is just like Speeding.
It is done all the time, and it is a very small percentage that get caught.
The key is the sentance for doing so. Just my $.02.
Speeding: +10 first time = $250, 2nd time in 1 yr. = $1000, 3rd = $2000 and 3 months behind bars. Anything above 10, fines and incarseration X 2 then 3. Now tell the truth, how many times would you speed now?

Cell Phone usage, in any way: 1st = $250 fine. 2nd = $500 and phone confiscated. 3rd. time = $1000 and license suspended 1 yr.

I know, a pipe dream. The Justice system is so lame and balless, it would never fly. But I bet it would slow that texting down a little bit.
Oh well, time for bad.
Ride safe all.
Greg
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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2011, 06:26:43 AM »
Quote from: gPink on December 14, 2011, 03:38:21 PM
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■Drivers under the age of 19 are prohibited from using wireless phones while driving — with or without hands-free devices.
 ■All drivers prohibited from text messaging and related activities such as emailing and Internet use.
 ■Motorists prohibited from use of cellular phones in school speed zones and construction/road maintenance zones.
 ■In Chicago, all drivers talking on mobile phones must use hands-free devices. Text messaging prohibited while driving. Fines: $100-$500

I was driving in downtown Chicago yesterday. Did the law stop folks from blabbin on their cells while driving? Hell no! We saw lots of em all around us, even with a LEO right behind them.
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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2011, 06:53:35 AM »
You have to realize Chicago is not subject to the same laws as the rest of the state.
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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2011, 01:06:21 PM »
I was texting from my bike today while on a ride  :D
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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2011, 06:02:47 PM »
Quote from: stevewfl on December 17, 2011, 01:06:21 PM
I was texting from my bike today while on a ride  :D
I would have passed you. Maybe on the rear tire. ;D
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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2011, 06:34:48 PM »
A news story today (locally) said texting and driving was more dangerous than drunk driving.  Now, they've never seen me drink, but still.  Based on this idea, dont they have to clamp down on texting while driving?  The penalty for it is much less than dui.

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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2011, 07:33:33 PM »
Quote from: jimmymac on December 17, 2011, 06:02:47 PM
I would have passed you. Maybe on the rear tire. ;D

I'd have blamed it on texting with Teressa even if you're faster
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Re: NTSB: Ban cell phone use while driving
« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2011, 05:17:05 PM »
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