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Title: Nitrogen
Post by: booger on July 04, 2011, 09:48:10 AM
My work schedule has allowed riding time every week or so.  And my tire pressure would drop 1-3 psi between each time.

Went and had the tires purged and filled with N2 this AM.

I have dropped .5 seconds in the quarter mile, gained 15 mph on top end.  The bike runs 20 degrees cooler and a heck of a lot smoother.

The nitrogen has made me a 2" taller, 15 lbs lighter and 10 years younger. 8)

I suggest you go get your tires fillled with N2.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: just gone on July 04, 2011, 11:05:47 AM
What do you think?

I think you've been breathing too much Nitrogen.  :o
Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: Pokey on July 04, 2011, 11:07:17 AM
N20 works even better. ;)
Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: tjpgi on October 11, 2011, 09:19:53 PM
N20 works even better. ;)
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Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: Gsun on October 11, 2011, 09:59:18 PM
Air is already 78% nitrogen. Not a big difference.
Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 12, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
I wonder if helium would work?
Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: gPink on October 12, 2011, 12:34:57 PM
Maybe
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/eng99/eng99085.htm (http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/eng99/eng99085.htm)
Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 12, 2011, 01:25:18 PM
Wow, I had a flashback to Brian (BDF) in reading that.
Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: sherob on October 12, 2011, 02:44:37 PM
I've been using a Husky N78.09 Generator for years... works great... best thing I ever bought.  :hail:
Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: Dalroo on October 12, 2011, 03:19:48 PM
I purchased a G35 Infiniti new in 2008. Instead of taking it to the dealer and paying ridiculous maintenance fees, I took to the Qwik Lube near my house. At the first service interval, I was told that there would be an additional $5 fee to charge the tires with Nitrogen, which was a surprise as I had not ever heard of using Nitrogen in tires. I told them forget that, and fill them with air. The kid told me he would not do that because they might explode - really!

Needless to say, I filled them with air the entire time I had the car - and still have all of my digits, and my eyebrows.
Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: B.D.F. on October 12, 2011, 03:57:57 PM
Let's see if this sounds like BDF-

Helium would work as the gas in motorcycle tires.... but not very well. It would actually work fine to pressurize the tires but it would leak out far more rapidly than air or nitrogen does and would make maintaining a tire's pressure a real chore. Helium is typically used to test the seals on things like brake components because it is so thin and leaks so much more readily than heavier gasses. Besides all of that, helium would make your tires sound funny, all high- pitched and whiny. A better gas would be argon, which is heavier and denser than most other gasses including both 'air' and nitrogen. The downside to argon is that if it leaks into any vessel sealed on the bottom and sides, it will collect and can (and has) caused asphyxiation for any mammals inside the vessel; it has been a problem with those T.I.G. welding in seagoing vessels when the hose feeding the T.I.G. torch gets cut and a chamber of said vessel fills with argon. There is no sensation of asphyxiation either because it is an abundance of CO2 that causes our reaction (rapid breathing, general feeling of panic) to impending asphyxiation, not the lack of oxygen itself. In an environment saturated with argon one simply goes to sleep.... with disastrous results.

And speaking of helium, did you ever wonder why the Germans used Hydrogen in the Hindenburg (and all their Zeppelins) when helium is non- flammable and nearly as light? The reason is because the US has a monopoly on helium and would not sell it to Germany at that time. Strangely enough, one drills into the ground to get helium as opposed to hydrogen which is readily available from water. And for those wondering, argon is obtained from the atmosphere: air is cooled and compressed until it liquefies and then the various components it is comprised of are boiled off, one at a time. Exactly the way distillation works.

Brian (really)



I wonder if helium would work?

Wow, I had a flashback to Brian (BDF) in reading that.
Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: MrPepsi on October 12, 2011, 04:06:47 PM
I'm 6' 2", I don't want to be taller.
Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: mbrew on October 12, 2011, 04:07:32 PM
I've been using 78% pure nitrogen with very good results.
Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 13, 2011, 04:26:07 AM
Brian (really)

Thank you.  All is right with the world again.
Title: Re: Nitrogen
Post by: booger on October 13, 2011, 10:23:15 PM
I'm 6' 2", I don't want to be taller.

It makes taller people shorter, if you want. ;)