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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: redbraid on May 15, 2011, 01:07:00 PM

Title: Bag liners
Post by: redbraid on May 15, 2011, 01:07:00 PM
I'm getting tired of carrying the hard bags in during trips and was wondering what the general population thought of Cee Bailey, RKA bags or others. I am not going the Piggly Wiggly bag route so don't go there.
Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Bob on May 15, 2011, 02:50:14 PM
I was very happy with the Kawasaki accessory pannier liners. I really liked the rigidity and computer/office slots. I was very happy with them for quite a few trips and 3 years. I wish the OEM Yamaha liners were even close to that good. Well at least the Yamaha liners came with the bike at no additional charge! Really, the Kawasaki liners were IMO, excellent!
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Zman on May 15, 2011, 05:14:35 PM
Just ordered Cee Bailey's from Murph today..... 89.00 delivered, good enough for me.....
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Tactical_Mik on May 15, 2011, 05:22:25 PM
I use Cee Bailey's liners.  They work fine for me.  I though about getting RKA's and may still.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: DaveO on May 15, 2011, 05:28:01 PM
 ive had the Cee Baily and didnt like em .They are not far off from PigglyWiggly bag..Kind of like a pillow case with a zipper at the top
 I replaced with the RKA
They hold their shape.. Now i'm happy :)
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: mikeboileau on May 15, 2011, 05:32:16 PM
What is RKA?
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: xsv on May 15, 2011, 05:35:50 PM
http://www.rka-luggage.com/A06%20Liners/Kawasaki%20C14/KawC14.html (http://www.rka-luggage.com/A06%20Liners/Kawasaki%20C14/KawC14.html)


I bought the RKA liners last year.  I am extremely happy with the quality of the bags.  They hold their shape well and fit the saddlebags like a glove.  I only wish they made one for my Givi E52 trunk!

Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Bob on May 15, 2011, 05:40:56 PM
What is RKA?


RKA:

http://www.rka-luggage.com/A06%20Liners/Kawasaki%20C14/KawC14.html (http://www.rka-luggage.com/A06%20Liners/Kawasaki%20C14/KawC14.html)

Cee Bailey:

http://www.ceebaileys.com/bags/kawa_bags_01.html (http://www.ceebaileys.com/bags/kawa_bags_01.html)

Kawasaki accessory liners:

http://www.kawasaki.com/KawasakiNew/Accessories2/PCItemDetail.aspx?ItemNumber=K53001270&Reason=6&intCatalogID=1&intCatalogType=4&ProductTypeID=8&ModelMarketingId=453&ModelYear=2008&CategoryID=160 (http://www.kawasaki.com/KawasakiNew/Accessories2/PCItemDetail.aspx?ItemNumber=K53001270&Reason=6&intCatalogID=1&intCatalogType=4&ProductTypeID=8&ModelMarketingId=453&ModelYear=2008&CategoryID=160)
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: mikeboileau on May 15, 2011, 05:47:18 PM

RKA:

http://www.rka-luggage.com/A06%20Liners/Kawasaki%20C14/KawC14.html (http://www.rka-luggage.com/A06%20Liners/Kawasaki%20C14/KawC14.html)

Cee Bailey:

http://www.ceebaileys.com/bags/kawa_bags_01.html (http://www.ceebaileys.com/bags/kawa_bags_01.html)

Kawasaki accessory liners:

http://www.kawasaki.com/KawasakiNew/Accessories2/PCItemDetail.aspx?ItemNumber=K53001270&Reason=6&intCatalogID=1&intCatalogType=4&ProductTypeID=8&ModelMarketingId=453&ModelYear=2008&CategoryID=160 (http://www.kawasaki.com/KawasakiNew/Accessories2/PCItemDetail.aspx?ItemNumber=K53001270&Reason=6&intCatalogID=1&intCatalogType=4&ProductTypeID=8&ModelMarketingId=453&ModelYear=2008&CategoryID=160)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Armyguns on May 15, 2011, 07:10:36 PM
I have the Cee Bailey liners.  Be aware that the liners will hold more than the hard bags will.  I found that out the hard way when I had to download stuff from the liner in order to get the hard bag closed.  I agree with the opinion that they are really nothing more than "a pillow case with a zipper", however they actually have two outside zippers, and an internal zipped section, and an external mesh pocket.  They are nice, but I wish they were a bit more rigid in shape. 
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: ZG on May 15, 2011, 07:20:27 PM

RKA:

http://www.rka-luggage.com/A06%20Liners/Kawasaki%20C14/KawC14.html (http://www.rka-luggage.com/A06%20Liners/Kawasaki%20C14/KawC14.html)

Kawasaki accessory liners:

http://www.kawasaki.com/KawasakiNew/Accessories2/PCItemDetail.aspx?ItemNumber=K53001270&Reason=6&intCatalogID=1&intCatalogType=4&ProductTypeID=8&ModelMarketingId=453&ModelYear=2008&CategoryID=160 (http://www.kawasaki.com/KawasakiNew/Accessories2/PCItemDetail.aspx?ItemNumber=K53001270&Reason=6&intCatalogID=1&intCatalogType=4&ProductTypeID=8&ModelMarketingId=453&ModelYear=2008&CategoryID=160)

Do the Kawi liners have that inside angled type form (see pic of RKA below) to them or do you lose that space??
 
I never thought about the fact that the inside part of our hard bags angle in like that, seems like potential lost space with some liners...
 
Those RKA bags look nice, do we get any sort of discount with them??
 
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Bob on May 15, 2011, 07:46:59 PM
The Kawasaki bags fit about perfect. Although the small pouch is slightly smaller by the look of the picture!
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Pynikal on May 15, 2011, 07:48:36 PM
why not just take the whole bag off??  its not that hard to do nor is it a time consuming thing to do.  i dont understand the function of these liners......
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Bob on May 15, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
why not just take the whole bag off??  its not that hard to do nor is it a time consuming thing to do.  i dont understand the function of these liners......

They make it easy to load and then insert them into the panniers. An inherent probelm with side loading panniers is that they are hard to load. You must have opened the cover at least once and had stuff tumble out. The liners make it mach easier to use the panniers for travel or just day to day. The Kawasaki liners even organize the stuff for you. IMO, these are a must for side loading panniers.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Pynikal on May 15, 2011, 08:01:33 PM
They make it easy to load and then insert them into the panniers. An inherent probelm with side loading panniers is that they are hard to load. You must have opened the cover at least once and had stuff tumble out. The liners make it mach easier to use the panniers for travel or just day to day. The Kawasaki liners even organize the stuff for you. IMO, these are a must for side loading panniers.


food for thought i guess.  i just got my connie not to long ago and havent had the chance for a long over night type ride yet.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: DaveO on May 15, 2011, 08:16:51 PM
You must have opened the cover at least once and had stuff tumble out.

yep i hate it when that happens.
 side loading boxes  are a pain without liners
I would much prefer they were top loaders.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: ZG on May 15, 2011, 08:52:29 PM
They make it easy to load and then insert them into the panniers. An inherent probelm with side loading panniers is that they are hard to load. You must have opened the cover at least once and had stuff tumble out. The liners make it much easier to use the panniers for travel or just day to day.


 :goodpost:


+1 to Cap'n concept. I would never use them for normal commuting etc, but when I go on trips with mama she likes to be able to load all sorts of smaller things that women need on a trip like make-up and stuff or what ever that you really don't want to load loose...


Plus lugging them around into hotels and stuff only increases chances for scratches on them IMO...

Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: mikeboileau on May 15, 2011, 08:53:27 PM
Load them up and stuff them in.   Makes sense.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: booger on May 16, 2011, 06:54:48 PM
I want a set of liners, but think they are priced way out of line for what you get.

You can get a pair of cheap duffle bags at Walmart for $20. (I know they don't fit)

Bag liners are $100+.

Doesn't that kinda irritate you?
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: SVonhof on May 16, 2011, 07:32:48 PM
I had figured I would start by using the bags that helmets come in as liners. Not perfect, but I have never had saddle bags, so it's all new to me!
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: maxtog on May 16, 2011, 08:04:41 PM
The Kawasaki bags fit about perfect. Although the small pouch is slightly smaller by the look of the picture!

Where are you seeing real pictures of the Kawasaki bags?  Every site I went to shows the same, exact, tiny, photo of the bag inside the hard case.  You can't tell much of anything from them.  They almost look like they have logos on them too, but who can tell!!??

Any links to real pics anyone?  Anyone have them and can post some real photos?
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: maxtog on May 16, 2011, 08:08:59 PM
+1 to Cap'n concept. I would never use them for normal commuting etc, but when I go on trips with mama she likes to be able to load all sorts of smaller things that women need on a trip

Hey- you don't gotta be a women to have a lot of junk.  We techno geeks have laptops, power connectors, chargers, GPS, spare batteries, mouse, cables, all kinds of junk.  If I want to take my Alpha camera and some accessories, yeesh, that will blow more than 1/2 of a case right there!  I can fill space pretty quickly :)
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Pardini on May 17, 2011, 10:06:22 PM
I have the Cee B's they work ok, but I think they would be better if they more ridgid like the RKA's.  If I did it again I'd go with the RKA's.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Bob on May 18, 2011, 03:19:52 AM
I meant the picture I was looking at of the RKA liners. I already knew how the Kawasaki liners look. Sorry for the confusion. I would take pictures of them. But I don't have mine anymore. The ones I have now fit another bike and are nowhere near as nice as the Kawasaki liners. But hey, they came with the bike at least!  ;D


Where are you seeing real pictures of the Kawasaki bags?  Every site I went to shows the same, exact, tiny, photo of the bag inside the hard case.  You can't tell much of anything from them.  They almost look like they have logos on them too, but who can tell!!??

Any links to real pics anyone?  Anyone have them and can post some real photos?
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: koval68 on May 18, 2011, 05:43:07 AM
Where are you seeing real pictures of the Kawasaki bags?  Every site I went to shows the same, exact, tiny, photo of the bag inside the hard case.  You can't tell much of anything from them.  They almost look like they have logos on them too, but who can tell!!??

Any links to real pics anyone?  Anyone have them and can post some real photos?
Maybe this can help. I'm happy with Kawasaki bags and zero problems to report.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Bob on May 18, 2011, 07:16:22 AM
Thanks for posting the photo's Tom. Are they packed and ready to go yet? I should see you tomorrow, right!
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: PH14 on May 18, 2011, 08:22:25 AM
When I bought my C14 I was planning on buying bag liners from RKA or the like.  I was getting ready to go on a trip and decided I wanted something quickly in the interim, so I went to Target and looked. Target has bags that fit almost perfectly for $10. I figured it would be worth it for $20 since I wouldn't be out much and planned on buying the "proper" bags when I git back. Well it's been almost a year and I'm still happily using the bags from Target. I still may get the RKAs but there is no pressing need now.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: EarlF on May 18, 2011, 08:53:52 AM
I have the Cee Bailey liners and am disappointed with them and will likely replace them with the RKAs.  The Cee Bailey liners do not fit when full because they do not conform to the bulge in the inner side where the mounts are.  You have to pack carefully in such a way as to conform to this bulge in order to use anywhere near the the bag capacity.  I would have already gone the RKA route but because I only use one and RKA only sells in pairs I have been holding off.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: koval68 on May 18, 2011, 11:39:37 AM
Thanks for posting the photo's Tom. Are they packed and ready to go yet? I should see you tomorrow, right!
We are arriving late at night, will see you Friday am. I've tried SteveWFL's method in packing.....pack my bags, honey!.....well, that didn't work :o,. I am packing my own bags, tonight!
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: stevewfl on May 18, 2011, 11:54:26 AM
I use an Oakley backpack as a liner and it works great.

Sometimes i just pop the latch and take the whole pannier in like a suitcase which works well too
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: stevewfl on May 18, 2011, 11:55:42 AM
We are arriving late at night, will see you Friday am. I've tried SteveWFL's method in packing.....pack my bags, honey!.....well, that didn't work :o,. I am packing my own bags, tonight!

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/lol.gif)

thats funny! try a wide smile when you request it
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: ZG on May 18, 2011, 11:59:02 AM
We are arriving late at night, will see you Friday am. I've tried SteveWFL's method in packing.....pack my bags, honey!.....well, that didn't work :o ,. I am packing my own bags, tonight!


Did you have your fob in your pocket when you asked her Koval?? Otherwise they won't start...  ;)
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: koval68 on May 18, 2011, 12:06:33 PM

Did you have your fob in your pocket when you asked her Koval?? Otherwise they won't start...  ;)
Dead battery my friend! Dead battery................ :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: PH14 on May 18, 2011, 03:10:42 PM
I got a couple personal messages regarding the bags from Target. I looked there today and didn't see the bags I have, only some larger ones. They may simply be out of stock. I found 24 inch bags there today and the ones I have are around 18 inches in length. The come in a carrying pouch and are hung on the shelves in the store. Since they are in a pouch you may not realize they are large bags. I believe the brand is Embark. I think it is Target's brand.

Here are some pics of what I have. They are not a stiff bag so they won't stand up on their own when empty. In the pics I have a shoebox in the bag. They will stuff enough to pretty well fill the space in the saddle bags.

(http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/RCRide/Bag.jpg)

(http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/RCRide/Bag2.jpg)

(http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/RCRide/Bag3.jpg)

Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: SVonhof on May 18, 2011, 03:26:35 PM
PH14, that is a pretty good fit there!
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: RBX QB on May 18, 2011, 04:18:33 PM
Maybe this can help. I'm happy with Kawasaki bags and zero problems to report.

Koval, I think you replied to my query on the deceased forum with these. If I remember correctly, you said the laptop pocket was 13"? Next time you get the chance, could you confirm the pocket size? I have to lug around a 17" laptop for work, and I really like that separation in the factory liners. (obviously, they won't work for me if the pocket is too small).
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: maxtog on May 18, 2011, 04:41:40 PM
Maybe this can help. I'm happy with Kawasaki bags and zero problems to report.

Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: koval68 on May 18, 2011, 05:05:33 PM
Koval, I think you replied to my query on the deceased forum with these. If I remember correctly, you said the laptop pocket was 13"? Next time you get the chance, could you confirm the pocket size? I have to lug around a 17" laptop for work, and I really like that separation in the factory liners. (obviously, they won't work for me if the pocket is too small).
The pocket size is 13"x2"x9" (saddle bag liner) and 14"x2"x9" (top case liner). Top case liner will fit in the saddle bag, but not completely full(tight fit). The actual usable space inside the saddle bags is approx.14"x12", widest part of the bags is approx.19 1/2".
If I were you, I'd invest in Givi E52 or E55 top case(my 19 inches wide lap top bag fits inside the E52 case), mounted on Phills rack or Givi C-14 mount,IMHO.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: mikeboileau on May 18, 2011, 07:15:56 PM
I got a couple personal messages regarding the bags from Target. I looked there today and didn't see the bags I have, only some larger ones. They may simply be out of stock. I found 24 inch bags there today and the ones I have are around 18 inches in length. The come in a carrying pouch and are hung on the shelves in the store. Since they are in a pouch you may not realize they are large bags. I believe the brand is Embark. I think it is Target's brand.

Here are some pics of what I have. They are not a stiff bag so they won't stand up on their own when empty. In the pics I have a shoebox in the bag. They will stuff enough to pretty well fill the space in the saddle bags.

(http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/RCRide/Bag.jpg)

(http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/RCRide/Bag2.jpg)


(http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/RCRide/Bag3.jpg)

Thats a good find!
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: maxtog on May 18, 2011, 08:54:51 PM


You said nothing...
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: ZG on May 18, 2011, 08:59:15 PM
You said nothing...
Was Mike just bumping those Target bags??  :loco:
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: mikeboileau on May 18, 2011, 08:59:49 PM
You said nothing...

WOW, I meant to say....Good find!
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: mikeboileau on May 18, 2011, 09:00:58 PM
It's in there.....I just screwed up the quote.

There.  I fixed it!
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: ZG on May 18, 2011, 09:05:28 PM
It's in there.....I just screwed up the quote.

There.  I fixed it!
Cheese head... no wonder you guys let Farve go...  ;)
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: mikeboileau on May 18, 2011, 09:08:07 PM
Cheese head... no wonder you guys let Farve go...  ;)

He was done......we had a great replacement!

Worked out good this year....... 8)
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: ZG on May 18, 2011, 09:11:12 PM
He was done......we had a great replacement!

Worked out good this year....... 8)
Done?? Didn't he take the Vik's to the NFC championship game??  :nuts:
 
Come on man, the dude was awesome to cheer for, and I'm a Browns fan... Yes, I know,  :loco:
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: mikeboileau on May 18, 2011, 09:16:17 PM
Done?? Didn't he take the Vik's to the NFC championship game the very next year??  :nuts:
 
Come on man, the dude was awesome to cheer for, and I'm a Browns fan... Yes, I know,  :loco:

after he played for the Jets for a year, What did he give them?

Same as he gave us 2 years earlier ........nuttin.  He was done.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: ZG on May 18, 2011, 09:25:41 PM
after he played for the Jets for a year, What did he give them?

Same as he gave us 2 years earlier ........nuttin.  He was done.
Oh ya, the Jets year was a great year for him...  ;) 
http://www.google.com/search?q=jenn+sterger&hl=en&prmd=ivnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=o43UTb2hFYGKuAPspZz8BA&sqi=2&ved=0CCIQsAQ&biw=1516&bih=767 (http://www.google.com/search?q=jenn+sterger&hl=en&prmd=ivnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=o43UTb2hFYGKuAPspZz8BA&sqi=2&ved=0CCIQsAQ&biw=1516&bih=767)
 
Sorry for the threadjack everyone else...  :-X
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: booger on May 19, 2011, 10:04:28 PM
When I bought my C14 I was planning on buying bag liners from RKA or the like.  I was getting ready to go on a trip and decided I wanted something quickly in the interim, so I went to Target and looked. Target has bags that fit almost perfectly for $10. I figured it would be worth it for $20 since I wouldn't be out much and planned on buying the "proper" bags when I git back. Well it's been almost a year and I'm still happily using the bags from Target. I still may get the RKAs but there is no pressing need now.

What kind of bags are they?  What department did you find them in?

Sorry, I saw what I needed further in the thread :-[
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: ZG on May 21, 2011, 09:29:20 AM
Anyone using these Bestem liners? The price seems to be quite a bit lower...
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawasaki-Concours-14-GTR1400-Regular-Saddlebag-Liners-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b98effddQQitemZ140552110045QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawasaki-Concours-14-GTR1400-Regular-Saddlebag-Liners-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b98effddQQitemZ140552110045QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
 
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Taff on May 21, 2011, 10:05:52 AM
Anyone using these Bestem liners? The price seems to be quite a bit lower...
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawasaki-Concours-14-GTR1400-Regular-Saddlebag-Liners-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b98effddQQitemZ140552110045QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawasaki-Concours-14-GTR1400-Regular-Saddlebag-Liners-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b98effddQQitemZ140552110045QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

I have these liners and I am very please with them.
Bestem also has Givi top case liners (E46) which also fit well. The only complaint I had was that the bags didn't smell very nice internally when new, so I placed a couple of those fabric conditioner sheets to take away the smell.

TIP 101: When you have finished using the liners for a trip place fabric conditioner sheets in each bag.

Jon.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: ZG on May 21, 2011, 10:32:02 AM
I have these liners and I am very please with them.
Bestem also has Givi top case liners (E46) which also fit well. The only complaint I had was that the bags didn't smell very nice internally when new, so I placed a couple of those fabric conditioner sheets to take away the smell.

TIP 101: When you have finished using the liners for a trip place fabric conditioner sheets in each bag.

Jon.


Hmmm, interesting, and only $30! Might have to pick me up one of those, thanks Jon.


http://www.bestemusa.com/product_info.php?products_id=804 (http://www.bestemusa.com/product_info.php?products_id=804)
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Taff on May 21, 2011, 07:30:32 PM

Hmmm, interesting, and only $30! Might have to pick me up one of those, thanks Jon.


http://www.bestemusa.com/product_info.php?products_id=804 (http://www.bestemusa.com/product_info.php?products_id=804)

You are most welcome  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Forgot to mention that the zippers could be an issue "down the road" because sometimes they tended to catch on the fabric on the Givi liner . Could use a little dab of silicone spray to make the zipper "glide" a little better.

As you stated, not expensive and worth a shot.

Jon.

PS: Like your bike very much  ;D ;D  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: ZG on May 21, 2011, 07:39:11 PM
PS: Like your bike very much  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Thanks Brutha, you're piped 09 looks sharp as well, nice dash farkles!  :thumbs:


We need to get a Pac NW event together someday, I see you're in Seattle, I'm down in Portland...

Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Taff on May 21, 2011, 07:51:49 PM

Thanks Brutha, you're piped 09 looks sharp as well, nice dash farkles!  :thumbs:


We need to get a Pac NW event together someday, I see you're in Seattle, I'm down in Portland...

Can you read minds!!

I was thinking the same thing the other day. Portland is not far for me and so a roll call may highlight who would be interested in a meet.

Appreciate your comments about my ride as it took me over 3 weeks to add all the farkles  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jon.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: CADMAN97 on May 21, 2011, 08:12:27 PM
I just bought a Bell Star Helmet last week, on clearance of course, cuz $550 is a LOT for a helmet (nice helmet by the way if your wondering), but the helmet bag it came with makes a perfect bag liner. It's like a perfect fit for the C14 bags. Almost like the helmet bag was designed for the C14....here's a couple pics, check it out...
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Taff on May 21, 2011, 08:16:17 PM
I just bought a Bell Star Helmet last week, on clearance of course, cuz $550 is a LOT for a helmet (nice helmet by the way if your wondering), but the helmet bag it came with makes a perfect bag liner. It's like a perfect fit for the C14 bags. Almost like the helmet bag was designed for the C14....here's a couple pics, check it out...

Nice!  ;D ;D

I like innovation too.

Jon.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: ZG on May 21, 2011, 09:02:07 PM
Can you read minds!!

I was thinking the same thing the other day. Portland is not far for me and so a roll call may highlight who would be interested in a meet.

Appreciate your comments about my ride as it took me over 3 weeks to add all the farkles  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jon.


You will set up a Pac NW event this summer Jon...


(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/these_are_not_the_droids.jpg)

Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Taff on May 21, 2011, 09:37:00 PM

You will set up a Pac NW event this summer Jon...


(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/these_are_not_the_droids.jpg)

That's so funny, nearly soaked my keyboard in beer  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I don't mind doing the leg work, but any PNW event should be near the end of August due to July schedule.
Do you want to help?

Jon.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: ZG on May 21, 2011, 10:02:57 PM
That's so funny, nearly soaked my keyboard in beer  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I don't mind doing the leg work, but any PNW event should be near the end of August due to July schedule.
Do you want to help?

Jon.


If you start up a new thread about it I'll defiantly chime in and help where I can...  ;)


Sounds fun!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Taff on May 21, 2011, 10:09:36 PM

If you start up a new thread about it I'll defiantly chime in and help where I can...  ;)


Sounds fun!  :thumbs:

Lets get a thread started.

Jon.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: booger on July 04, 2011, 10:54:06 AM
why not just take the whole bag off??  its not that hard to do nor is it a time consuming thing to do.  i dont understand the function of these liners......

I'm with you.  One of the reasons i bought a C-14 is the easily removable bags.

Try pulling the ones off of a Road King.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: maxtog on July 04, 2011, 11:59:10 AM
I'm with you.  One of the reasons i bought a C-14 is the easily removable bags.

There are a number of reasons one might want to use bag liners:

1) The luggage ("bags") are heavy
2) The luggage could get scratched or damaged during removal/installation/transport
3) If you have retainer clips or bars, it will take additional time to remove/install those
4) Having bag liners keeps loose stuff organized and upright
5) Bag liners can also make better use of the available space, since it is difficult to pack the luggage fully due to the half-open state (and trying to stop pinching, etc)
6) It *is* faster to open the luggage and grab a bag, and return it later.  Not tremendously faster, though.
7) Less wear on the retaining mechanisms (not that this is a big deal).

I can see a case (no pun intended) for taking the luggage on/off AND for using bag liners.  Both can be very useful.  I have done both and it just depends on the situation.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: MrFurious on July 04, 2011, 02:07:24 PM
I picked up a set of Cee Bailey's bag liners a couple weeks ago.  Haven't had a chance to use them yet, but I am (for the most part) very happy with them. 

The only letdown and thing I would change is the outside mesh pocket.  Rather than being one large pocket it should be 2 or 3 smaller pockets to better hold small common use items such as suntan lotion, bug spray, a first aid kit, passport, etc.  This would also address the issue of the net's pathetic excuse for an elastic band along the top of the mesh.  As is it's just not very handy or useful IMO, but that's easily fixed by sewing on a few lengths of 1/2" wide ballistic nylon strapping over the mesh to divide it into the desired smaller pockets.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: booger on July 04, 2011, 07:06:53 PM
There are a number of reasons one might want to use bag liners:

1) The luggage ("bags") are heavy
2) The luggage could get scratched or damaged during removal/installation/transport
3) If you have retainer clips or bars, it will take additional time to remove/install those
4) Having bag liners keeps loose stuff organized and upright
5) Bag liners can also make better use of the available space, since it is difficult to pack the luggage fully due to the half-open state (and trying to stop pinching, etc)
6) It *is* faster to open the luggage and grab a bag, and return it later.  Not tremendously faster, though.
7) Less wear on the retaining mechanisms (not that this is a big deal).

I can see a case (no pun intended) for taking the luggage on/off AND for using bag liners.  Both can be very useful.  I have done both and it just depends on the situation.

Don't get me wrong.  If they weren't so expensive, I would probably buy liners.  I tried some non-specific bags and they just fit like crap.  I'll just keep carrying in the hard bags for now.

But as my tail pack is bolted on, I definately need a liner for it.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: palooka on March 12, 2014, 11:11:22 AM
Opening this thread again. Ordered and received RKA-Luggage liners for my kawasaki mostly so to fill that gap in the back in the panniers that they advertise.

Although it doesn't look like it, the liners are collapsible like the Kathy's. There's a plastic plate that is inserted in the bottom of the liner that maintains their shape. Overall though, no problem flattening them out.

$120 though is way expensive for a pair of bag liners.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Daytona_Mike on March 12, 2014, 11:37:46 PM
Don't get me wrong.  If they weren't so expensive, I would probably buy liners.  I tried some non-specific bags and they just fit like crap.  I'll just keep carrying in the hard bags for now.

But as my tail pack is bolted on, I definately need a liner for it.
Expensive??  How about $64 for two (both sides) and no tax and free shipping too.
http://tinyurl.com/p3byy5e (http://tinyurl.com/p3byy5e)
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: webnetxpress on March 13, 2014, 01:57:35 AM
Those (amazon ones) are the ones I bought.  I appreciate them on every trip.  It is much easier to pull up to the Marriott with the wife, open the panniers and grab some bags with shoulder straps and walk in.  Vs taking hard cases off and having to walk around with them.  We already look the part in our power ranger suits .... but the sort cases are a little less obnoxious.  Just my 2 pennies worth....
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Conrad on March 13, 2014, 04:32:58 AM
Expensive??  How about $64 for two (both sides) and no tax and free shipping too.
http://tinyurl.com/p3byy5e (http://tinyurl.com/p3byy5e)

Hey! Those are pretty nice! How come no one has brought these to our attention till now?
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Daytona_Mike on March 13, 2014, 07:29:56 AM
I thought it I had already posted those here already. it must have been on the other forum.
Sorry about that.  When you get them they are even better than what you see in the pictures.
Very well made and they fit perfectly. A must have for that price.
Order these space bags and you can pack  organized and keep those dirty smelly clothes separate from the clean clothes
http://tinyurl.com/qjgca72 (http://tinyurl.com/qjgca72)
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: maxtog on March 13, 2014, 05:15:59 PM
Hey! Those are pretty nice! How come no one has brought these to our attention till now?

Proper link (can be hard getting a clean link on Amazon sometimes:  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OBVAUI (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OBVAUI)

I do remember these being posted before.  I am very tempted to buy them.  There is more space in the hard cases than is sometimes usable, because everything tends to fall out.  But the times I want to put my helmet in the hard cases, it barely fits (Scorpion EXO-1000).  I can't imagine it would fit inside that bag that then fits in the hard case.

I wish they had a photo of the logo- I like that it says "Concours 14", but I suspect it is just painted on, not embroidered... plus I can't make out the other logo at all.  Would be nicer if it said "KAWASAKI", but perhaps they were worried about trademark issues?
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: webnetxpress on March 13, 2014, 06:23:09 PM
The logo is embroidered on mine (they appear to be the same ones, and I did buy mine from Amazon about 8 months ago).

I doubt a helmet would fit in the bag and then in the case. 

One thing they don't mention, one of the cases has an internal pouch on the side, with a velcro seal.  It's quite handy for carrying papers or tools - i use it for tools on a trip, keeps it from getting in with the clothes and other stuff.  The other case does not have the pouch.  Both have the outside pouch/pocket that zippers shut.  both cases have the shoulder strap.

Wife and I are very happy with them so far.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: martin_14 on March 14, 2014, 12:29:52 AM
those seem to be the same bags I've got from a no-name vendor in the UK for 30 GBP, about 50 USD. Indeed, one of them has the inside pocket with velcro. You can stuff a million things inside knowing that it will fit in the hard cases on the bike afterwards. It really simplifies packing, and avoids having to carry those easy to scratch bags around the hotel and in the room, where the cleaning lady will scratch them with the vacuum cleaner  :'(
Very happy with them.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: maxtog on March 14, 2014, 05:44:30 AM
Very happy with them.

Damnit.  I put them in my cart... will buy them the next "order round".
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: Speedy on March 14, 2014, 06:53:00 AM
I too have the Bestem bag liners.  Also got one for my Givi top case.  Very nice bags for the money - $99 for all three.  One of their warehouses is here in Atlanta so I went by to pick them up to save the shipping cost.  Pretty typical warehouse with office...not much for walk in traffic...clearly the web is their primary source of customers.

Give 'em a try, you can't go wrong for less than $70.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: SVonhof on March 14, 2014, 08:17:24 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OBVAUI (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OBVAUI)
Got these ordered just now based on what you guys posted. It's really a pain taking the saddlebags off the bike all loaded up and carrying up multiple flights of stairs and everything. This will make life much easier. Granted, I only use the saddlebags a few times a year, but it will make life easier those 3 times a year.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: maxtog on March 14, 2014, 09:43:29 PM
Got these ordered just now based on what you guys posted.

Well, since this thread is hot, I have watched the stock fall, so I ordered them too :)   Looks like I got the last set in stock.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: SVonhof on March 25, 2014, 02:02:56 PM
Got my bag liners last week. Took them outside to grab some pictures to share.

The bags are identical from the outside, include a shoulder strap for each and on the right is the stiffening rib that wraps from front to back on the bottom portion of each bag:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/Concours_bags_1_zpsb7c80d0e.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SVonhof/media/moto/Concours_bags_1_zpsb7c80d0e.jpg.html)
Detail showing the stitching:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/Concours_bags_2_zps4ee7bb0a.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SVonhof/media/moto/Concours_bags_2_zps4ee7bb0a.jpg.html)
What they look like:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/Concours_bags_3_zpsd81a8aeb.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SVonhof/media/moto/Concours_bags_3_zpsd81a8aeb.jpg.html)
The zippers have a nice quality to them:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/Concours_bags_4_zps6e1e2271.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SVonhof/media/moto/Concours_bags_4_zps6e1e2271.jpg.html)
One of the bags has a large inner pocket:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/Concours_bags_5_zps006f1f8f.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SVonhof/media/moto/Concours_bags_5_zps006f1f8f.jpg.html)
Inside of the same bag:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/Concours_bags_6_zps3bfe4cc4.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SVonhof/media/moto/Concours_bags_6_zps3bfe4cc4.jpg.html)
Image of the other bag before putting the stiffener in:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/Concours_bags_7_zps46819dd2.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SVonhof/media/moto/Concours_bags_7_zps46819dd2.jpg.html)
And the other internal side of the second bag (no stiffener yet):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/Concours_bags_8_zpsdddecbf0.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SVonhof/media/moto/Concours_bags_8_zpsdddecbf0.jpg.html)

I have not even tried putting them in the saddlebags yet as I don't use them very often, but I know will like using these instead of lugging both of the hard bags into a hotel room.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: maxtog on March 25, 2014, 04:49:20 PM
Got my bag liners last week. Took them outside to grab some pictures to share.

Thanks for the pics.  You beat me to it.

I have already used mine twice.  They do fit fine.  The shoulder strap is irritating to keep from being in the way of closing the hard cases.... I might just take them off and never use them.

Generally I am happy with them, although I do not like the zippers- they are simply too wimpy/small... combined with the extra (and unnecessary) weatherproofing, it makes opening and closing the bags difficult.  I have even had the teeth skip already.  Otherwise, they seem to be pretty good quality, especially for the money.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: petepro on March 25, 2014, 05:58:52 PM
When I bought my C14 I was planning on buying bag liners from RKA or the like.  I was getting ready to go on a trip and decided I wanted something quickly in the interim, so I went to Target and looked. Target has bags that fit almost perfectly for $10. I figured it would be worth it for $20 since I wouldn't be out much and planned on buying the "proper" bags when I git back. Well it's been almost a year and I'm still happily using the bags from Target. I still may get the RKAs but there is no pressing need now.

Pics and measurements?
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: JS_racer on March 26, 2014, 04:41:12 AM
were there any liners that utilize the dent on the inside of the case for space, or are they all flat ??
thanks for the pictures SVonhof
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: TallyRex on March 27, 2014, 05:59:45 AM
Food for thought. Even though I have 2 liners, I only use one and I use a cheap Wamart back pack on the the other side. It fits perfectly and has many compartments.  When I get to a hotel for the night, the back pack allows me to use my other hand for the tank bag so I only have to make one trip up to the room.  Quite frankly, if I had realized how convenient and how well the backpack works, I wouldn't have gotten the liners. 
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: maxtog on March 27, 2014, 04:40:09 PM
Food for thought. Even though I have 2 liners, I only use one and I use a cheap Wamart back pack on the the other side. It fits perfectly and has many compartments.  When I get to a hotel for the night, the back pack allows me to use my other hand for the tank bag so I only have to make one trip up to the room.

The Bestem bag liners have shoulder straps (as well as handles), so both can be carried on your back/sides, hands-free.... just pointing that out.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: petepro on March 27, 2014, 04:44:04 PM
Food for thought. Even though I have 2 liners, I only use one and I use a cheap Wamart back pack on the the other side. It fits perfectly and has many compartments.  When I get to a hotel for the night, the back pack allows me to use my other hand for the tank bag so I only have to make one trip up to the room.  Quite frankly, if I had realized how convenient and how well the backpack works, I wouldn't have gotten the liners.


can you provide the brand type size of backpack.  maybe a pic or two.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: texrider on March 27, 2014, 05:17:50 PM
were there any liners that utilize the dent on the inside of the case for space, or are they all flat ??
thanks for the pictures SVonhof

I just received my set of RKA liners, and they are shaped to the inset areas. Nice bags too. 8)
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: RBX QB on March 27, 2014, 06:04:45 PM
I just received my set of RKA liners, and they are shaped to the inset areas. Nice bags too. 8)

Yes, tho I really like the dual zipper styled top and some of the internal separations of the Bestems.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: TallyRex on March 29, 2014, 04:22:25 AM

can you provide the brand type size of backpack.  maybe a pic or two.

It's made by Eastport (Walmart).  Sorry for no pic, but I am leaving for Eureka Springs this morning and everything is all packed up on the bike
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: 2talltim on April 09, 2014, 06:10:04 AM
Don't know how I missed this thread I ordered a set of Bestem's last night and started a new thread about it and got  :battle:  ... ;D ...can't wait to try them
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: gPink on April 09, 2014, 06:28:11 AM
If that's worst that happens today you're good. Remember this is the internet, it's all make believe anyway.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: VirginiaJim on April 09, 2014, 07:14:32 AM
Don't know how I missed this thread I ordered a set of Bestem's last night and started a new thread about it and got  :battle:  ... ;D ...can't wait to try them

Oh come on now, it wasn't that bad...

You have reached the Outer Limits...



The Outer Limits Intro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CtjhWhw2I8#)

Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: 2talltim on April 09, 2014, 08:35:09 AM
Oh come on now, it wasn't that bad...

You have reached the Outer Limits...



The Outer Limits Intro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CtjhWhw2I8#)
Is there a sarcasm smiley  :P
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: VirginiaJim on April 09, 2014, 09:18:06 AM
You know, I don't think that there is one for that.  We have a roll eyes smiley but I don't think that's the same.  I'll look into that.  We could sure use one.
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: 2talltim on April 09, 2014, 10:34:57 AM
You know, I don't think that there is one for that.  We have a roll eyes smiley but I don't think that's the same.  I'll look into that.  We could sure use one.
It's like a second language for me
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: jdanek on April 09, 2014, 01:50:49 PM
Maybe this can help. I'm happy with Kawasaki bags and zero problems to report.

FWIW, I just purchased the OEM bags from Ebay (PERFORMANCECYCLECENTER.COM ),  Kawasaki Part #: K53001-270

The bag are a bit different from the ones in your photos. There is an external pocket in the front (under the Concours 14 logo) but no external pocket on the other side.  Also no carrying handles, just the shoulder strap.  Mine seem to be legit OEM bags, looks like Kawi is cutting corners. Inside features are all there, computer pocket, pen holders, etc.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-KAWASAKI-CONCOURS-14-SADDLEBAG-LINERS-WAS-132-95-NOW-119-95-FREE-SHIPPING-/281141117215?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item417551011f&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-KAWASAKI-CONCOURS-14-SADDLEBAG-LINERS-WAS-132-95-NOW-119-95-FREE-SHIPPING-/281141117215?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item417551011f&vxp=mtr)

jd
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: maxtog on April 09, 2014, 03:13:21 PM
If that's worst that happens today you're good. Remember this is the internet, it's all make believe anyway.

Yeah, we like him, anyway :)
Title: Re: Bag liners
Post by: 2talltim on April 09, 2014, 03:37:37 PM
If that's worst that happens today you're good. Remember this is the internet, it's all make believe anyway.

:D

(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr334/2talltim/dont-believe-everything-you-see-on-the-internet.jpeg) (http://s497.photobucket.com/user/2talltim/media/dont-believe-everything-you-see-on-the-internet.jpeg.html)