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Offline okxd45

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Concours 14 suspension setup
« on: June 24, 2011, 07:33:19 PM »
Not sure if this has been posted yet from the old site.  This was very helpful for me and will hopefully help someone else.  The difference in handling from the stock setup was drastic.......in a good way!
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2011, 07:40:00 PM »
Looks good except does it take into consideration your weight?  or for two up your passenger weight?

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2011, 09:38:03 PM »
It has a couple of two up settings. Would like to know the rider weight that this is based on.

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2011, 06:00:52 AM »
I'm at 250 lbs. solo, any suggestions? (other than loose 60 lbs.) ;)

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2011, 06:27:48 AM »
According to the owner's manual you need to loose 100lbs :o
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2011, 07:24:17 AM »
It has a couple of two up settings. Would like to know the rider weight that this is based on.

Yes.  For one up and two up....
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2011, 07:33:28 AM »
Looks good except does it take into consideration your weight?  or for two up your passenger weight?

It has a couple of two up settings. Would like to know the rider weight that this is based on.

I could be wrong (I thought I was once) but since it says 'Standard 150lbs' twice in the chart and in the owner's manual they base the settings on a 150lb rider. I'd say it's based on a 150lb rider.   ;)
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2011, 09:00:44 AM »
It would seem I can't read very well! I guess it would be a 150lb. passenger as well.

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2011, 09:09:12 AM »
I notice a year is not specified.  The 08/09 forks work much better with the  higher oil level from the 10/11 machines, btu I wonder if the settings on this chart still cross over? I suspect they will since the higher oil level typically effects bottoming resistance.

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2011, 09:15:20 AM »
I could be wrong (I thought I was once) but since it says 'Standard 150lbs' twice in the chart and in the owner's manual they base the settings on a 150lb rider. I'd say it's based on a 150lb rider.   ;)

Yes... but it also says something like "deals gap setting ", some track settings, and "Mike Brown's settings".  My guess ( and I was wrong once too ) is that there is NON-OEM info in the PDF.  Just a guess.

The rider(s) that compiled that data may not weigh 150 lbs.

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2011, 09:27:58 AM »
I'm at 250 lbs. solo, any suggestions? (other than loose 60 lbs.) ;)

That would be just losing the potato launcher...  ;)

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2011, 10:57:14 AM »
This is very helpful.  Thanks.  Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2011, 12:23:52 PM »
     Some of the old timers can probably remember who came up with this chart.  It seems like the guy said he was around 185.  I'm thinking if you're a little heavier, it would mostly be just a preload adjustment. (?)  Folks with more knowledge feel free to share please!

     For me, I really noticed a difference on bumpy curves; it now is much easier to hold the line, but you do lose a little comfort in the process.  Good luck and happy riding folks. ;)
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2011, 04:14:05 PM »
150 lb rider........I wish!

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2011, 06:49:15 PM »
150 lb rider........I wish!
Me too. I'd have to gain 10 lbs.!

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2011, 07:02:29 PM »
Me too. I'd have to gain 10 lbs.!

I would have to stop growing at 13.

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2011, 07:07:13 PM »
I'm a buck sixty with a really big chew in and the C14 feels like I'm riding a clydesdale, but the suspension is perfect!  :thumbs: ;D

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2011, 01:58:47 PM »
highly recommend the zip tie on the fork trick and you will know 100% much suspension you are using on the forks.

everything else is all about your weight, riding style,   

http://www.gostar-racing.com/club/motorcycle_suspension_set-up.htm

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2011, 03:36:17 PM »
Thanks for posting that up.

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2011, 04:15:22 PM »
I'm at 250 lbs. solo, any suggestions? (other than loose 60 lbs.) ;)

I've got it.....gain 50lbs and use the two-up settings.