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Title: 65 years ago today
Post by: O.C. on August 04, 2019, 04:22:47 AM
The first flight of WG 760 English Electric Lightening.... blimey how time flies  ;)     

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TqyLe5U8ac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TqyLe5U8ac)   


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-4wuvw_5GM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-4wuvw_5GM)     
Title: Re: 65 years ago today
Post by: VirginiaJim on August 04, 2019, 07:05:08 AM
That certainly brought a smile to my eyes!  Thanks!
Title: Re: 65 years ago today
Post by: connie_rider on August 04, 2019, 07:48:48 AM
I was not aware of the Lightening. Thanks for the information.
Mach 2 in 1958!   Wow!!

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: 65 years ago today
Post by: VirginiaJim on August 04, 2019, 09:50:55 AM
Mach 2 was reached earlier than that in experimental and interceptor class fighters...   With that being said however, British aircraft design (INMHO), hasn't been matched by anyone up to this point.  And by that I mean their unique airframe designs.   Too bad they are basically out of that business these days.


The Electric Lightening was the FIRST fighter to achieve supercruise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercruise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercruise)


https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/10/the-worlds-first-10-supersonic-jets/ (https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/10/the-worlds-first-10-supersonic-jets/)




Title: Re: 65 years ago today
Post by: Cholla on August 22, 2019, 06:30:45 PM
Only the prototypes could supercruise without burner.

The Republic F-105 prototype using a smaller engine than the production model went supersonic at sea level in 1955.
At altitude it could reach Mach 2.15.
Oh yes...did I mention it was a bomber and could carry a heavier load than a B-17 and had a radius of 750 miles?
The Lightnig's radius was 150 miles. Some models had an increased radius but that was reduced when guns were installed.
Title: Re: 65 years ago today
Post by: VirginiaJim on August 22, 2019, 06:58:04 PM
150 miles?  That is correct for supersonic intercept.  Normal range was about 850 but I guess those numbers also depend on possibly the variant in question.
Title: Re: 65 years ago today
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on August 22, 2019, 07:51:33 PM
I remember hearing my first "sonic boom" in Cleveland Ohio, circa 1961... we had a Nike Missile site, a few miles from my home...  and saw F104's on "occaisions"... my favorite plane ever...

The military disavowed any such thing as a "missile site"... but we will never know for sure... my brother said it was there, so i believe him when he told me "what it really was"..  ::) 8) 8) ;)