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Title: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Beamer on May 23, 2012, 12:07:45 PM
3 of us are planning a trip from Minneapolis going west from June 30th - July 7th, and we will more than likely make our first stop in the Black Hills, run thru Spearfish, Needles Hwy, and the normal Sturgis Fare, but we would like to go west from there for a day or two. We know that Glacier would be too far for us to get back to MN by July 7th, but what I would like is advice on going west from Sturgis. Should we loop to the west directly towards Yellowstone, NW towards Montana, or even SW towards Denver?

We are poor flat-landers who have never had a chance to get into the Rockies, but being as close as we are we would like to spend a day riding west and a day riding back towards the Black Hills.

Suggestions?

Feel free to email me also at 800mxz@gmail.com
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Roadhound on May 23, 2012, 02:50:49 PM
If I were you, and had never been to the western mountains before I wouldn't worry to much about the Black Hills area too much. I'm not going to tell you that the Black Hills are not beautiful but a few miles to the west there are amazing things.

I'd do a ride by thru the Black Hills Needles Hwy. and Iron Mtn. Hwy are very good roads. Short but very good if the traffic is low. I'd head west and cross the Big Horn Mtns. on Rt. 14 to Burgess Junction, take 14A from there. Try to do this as early in the day as you can to avoid the sun in your eyes as you reach the high point of the road and start down on the western slope the road and the view is amazing. Stay on 16 to Cody Wyoming, take 120 north to Chief Joseph Hwy. This is an amazing road, stop at the overlook at Dead Indian Pass and take a look at what is ahead of you. Chief Joseph Hwy will take you to the Beartooth Hwy. just east of Cooke City Montana. take a right and head toward Red Lodge, Mt. The Beartooth is 67 miles of what you head to the west for, it could be the finest stretch of road in the US. Red Lodge is a great place to spend a night and has some good restaurants and bars.

You can ride the Beartooth back to Cooke City and on into Yellowstone ride as much of the loop as you have time for and then take the eastern exit towards Cody. You can then take Hwy 16 east and cross the Big Horn Mtns. heading back east to whatever route you prefer heading home.

I hope you have a great ride and enjoy every mile of it. You can do a search for Beartooth Pass photos and you can see what an amazing road and place it is
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: SteveJ. on May 23, 2012, 03:01:44 PM
If I were you, and had never been to the western mountains before I wouldn't worry to much about the Black Hills area too much. I'm not going to tell you that the Black Hills are not beautiful but a few miles to the west there are amazing things.

I'd do a ride by thru the Black Hills Needles Hwy. and Iron Mtn. Hwy are very good roads. Short but very good if the traffic is low. I'd head west and cross the Big Horn Mtns. on Rt. 14 to Burgess Junction, take 14A from there. Try to do this as early in the day as you can to avoid the sun in your eyes as you reach the high point of the road and start down on the western slope the road and the view is amazing. Stay on 16 to Cody Wyoming, take 120 north to Chief Joseph Hwy. This is an amazing road, stop at the overlook at Dead Indian Pass and take a look at what is ahead of you. Chief Joseph Hwy will take you to the Beartooth Hwy. just east of Cooke City Montana. take a right and head toward Red Lodge, Mt. The Beartooth is 67 miles of what you head to the west for, it could be the finest stretch of road in the US. Red Lodge is a great place to spend a night and has some good restaurants and bars.

You can ride the Beartooth back to Cooke City and on into Yellowstone ride as much of the loop as you have time for and then take the eastern exit towards Cody. You can then take Hwy 16 east and cross the Big Horn Mtns. heading back east to whatever route you prefer heading home.

I hope you have a great ride and enjoy every mile of it. You can do a search for Beartooth Pass photos and you can see what an amazing road and place it is

This.

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Don pretty well bagged it on where and more importantly, how to do this. I usta live in the Cities, the time frame works real well. Like Don said, tread lightly on the Black Hills, you can hit them nicely in a 4 or 5 day weekend. Go do Chief Joseph and the Beartooth. Mucho gooder. And don't do the Black Hills on the way back, they will seem like a real disappointment after what you've been through out in WY and MT. DAMHIKIJK.

Spend time in Wyoming, there is a lot of nothing out there, a good thing. 
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on May 24, 2012, 03:22:08 PM
We are poor flat-landers who have never had a chance to get into the Rockies,

Suggestions?

Feel free to email me also at 800mxz@gmail.com
You are in for a real treat IMO!

Curious, are all of you experienced riders?

Safe trip to ya.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: CRocker on May 26, 2012, 08:11:41 AM
Yeah...what Don said... ;)
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Beamer on May 29, 2012, 09:29:53 AM
You are in for a real treat IMO!

Curious, are all of you experienced riders?

Safe trip to ya.

Very. All have been riding road bikes for 10 years on average, dirt bikes, atvs, snowmobiles for over 20, and not just putting around either lol.

Thanks all for the feed-back. We desire going farther west, but want to avoid a "hurry like hell" trip out to get there just to only get a limited opportunity to ride.

We MAY trailer out to Rapid City at least (with 3 of us we can drive 24hrs non stop in shifts, vs. having to stop and fuel / break /rest while going across S. Dakota - not much to see till you get to Wall Drug) so that may optimize some time for us.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Beamer on May 30, 2012, 08:26:08 AM
Looking like we are going to shoot for Yellowstone and Glacier. Plans are to arrive in Bozeman late on July 1st, with options to ride till July 6th.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: sherob on May 30, 2012, 01:39:46 PM
If I were you, and had never been to the western mountains before I wouldn't worry to much about the Black Hills area too much. I'm not going to tell you that the Black Hills are not beautiful but a few miles to the west there are amazing things.

I'd do a ride by thru the Black Hills Needles Hwy. and Iron Mtn. Hwy are very good roads. Short but very good if the traffic is low. I'd head west and cross the Big Horn Mtns. on Rt. 14 to Burgess Junction, take 14A from there. Try to do this as early in the day as you can to avoid the sun in your eyes as you reach the high point of the road and start down on the western slope the road and the view is amazing. Stay on 16 to Cody Wyoming, take 120 north to Chief Joseph Hwy. This is an amazing road, stop at the overlook at Dead Indian Pass and take a look at what is ahead of you. Chief Joseph Hwy will take you to the Beartooth Hwy. just east of Cooke City Montana. take a right and head toward Red Lodge, Mt. The Beartooth is 67 miles of what you head to the west for, it could be the finest stretch of road in the US. Red Lodge is a great place to spend a night and has some good restaurants and bars.

You can ride the Beartooth back to Cooke City and on into Yellowstone ride as much of the loop as you have time for and then take the eastern exit towards Cody. You can then take Hwy 16 east and cross the Big Horn Mtns. heading back east to whatever route you prefer heading home.

I hope you have a great ride and enjoy every mile of it. You can do a search for Beartooth Pass photos and you can see what an amazing road and place it is

+2  8)  Try and do Needles early too, miss traffic... and take pics easier.

Spearfish has great city campground too, if needed.  Very MC friendly.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on June 13, 2012, 08:07:38 AM
The Beartooth is 67 miles of what you head to the west for, it could be the finest stretch of road in the US.
Copy that.

Looking like we are going to shoot for Yellowstone and Glacier. Plans are to arrive in Bozeman late on July 1st, with options to ride till July 6th.
Sounds like a real adventure shaping-up.  Is the anticipation for departure building?

Greybull and Cody are high on my list of places to make “base camp” when in the northern half of Wyoming.

From Greybull I like to loop 14 to 14A at burgess Jct., then west down to Lovell, then south to Greybull.  I also look forward to a cruise thru the Wind River canyon, which is south of Thermopolis.

Regarding hwy 14A, 14, and 16 in the Bighorn Mts.  IMO, hwy 16 has the most spectacular scenery for a greater distance than 14A or 14.  But, all three of those roads offer a great deal of beautiful scenery IMO.   Personally, I wouldn’t want to miss either of those three roads.

From Cody, it’s trips to and from Red Lodge and the general area.  For me, the Beartooth Hwy is unmatched when considering paved roads.  BTW, there were lots of tar snakes on the Chief Joseph Highway just west of Dead Indian Pass this past summer. 

Regarding Yellowstone, for me, I wouldn’t care for the 4th of July traffic.  In other words, no way I would want to contend with that holiday week crowd, potential traffic congestion/jams, and difficulty in trying to find a place to camp or lodge.  Nope, give me the Beartooth Hwy and it’s spectacular scenery.  IMO, one has to experience that area in order to truly be able to appreciate it.

 This is about the only kind of Wyoming traffic jam I care for.(http://gl1800riders.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37804&d=1248372261)

To me, Glacier NP and its “Going to the Sun Road” is head and shoulders above a ride thru Yellowstone NP.  But that’s just a personal preference.  BTW, I also avoid Glacier NP during the 4th of July week.

Not trying to damper anyone’s enthusiasm or interfere with you plans by saying the 4th of July traffic in Yellowstone and Glacier NP can prove to be less than pleasant at times.


Will ya’ll be camping, staying in motels, or both?


Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Kazairl on June 13, 2012, 08:58:11 AM
Awesome! Keep the suggestions coming! I'm going to going through Glacier and and Yellowstone as I am planning a trip to British Columbia the 14th through the 28th of July.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Roadhound on June 13, 2012, 12:21:23 PM
I see you are going to Bozeman. If you have the time and want to spend a few hours off of the bike, The Museum Of The Rockies in Bozeman is a very interesting place to visit.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on June 14, 2012, 01:28:44 PM
Plans are to arrive in Bozeman late on July 1st, with options to ride till July 6th.
Here's hoping ya'll have reservations.  OTOH, there are plenty of camping opportunities in the area.

Taken in the Gallatin range off Hwy 86.
(http://www.zggtr.org/MGalleryItem.php?id=190) 
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on June 14, 2012, 01:32:08 PM
Awesome! Keep the suggestions coming! I'm going to going through Glacier and and Yellowstone as I am planning a trip to British Columbia the 14th through the 28th of July.
State of origin?
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Kazairl on June 14, 2012, 02:12:44 PM
I'm in Western Nebraska. About 5 hours straight south of the Badlands/Black Hills area.  Mostly I was just looking for roads to hit in the west/Northwest region. I have no definite plans as to which routes I want to take yet. Probably north to Black Hills then West on I 90 to Glacier and then turn North into B.C. somewhere after that. Then ride through Wash., Oregon and maybe North Cali on the way back.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on June 14, 2012, 04:45:25 PM
I have no definite plans as to which routes I want to take yet. Probably north to Black Hills then West on I 90 to Glacier
Have you got a rough idea of your route north thru Montana? 

Are you familiar with hwy 89 between I 90 and Great Falls?

I like to take hwy 86 out of Bozeman to Wilsall then head north on hwy 89 thru the Little Belt Mts, which is a nice scenic ride/drive IMO.  And there are three CGs in the Little Belts off of hwy 89 that I like.

BTW, I’ve looped Great Falls to Helena to Townsend to White Sulphur Springs then north back to Great Falls on more than one occasion.  That area was part of my “stomping ground” years ago.


Or, how about between Helena and Great Falls?

There is a frontage road that parallels I 15 most of the way between Helena and Great Falls that offers some nice scenery too IMO.

Lots of great scenery in IMO in Montana.  Of course, I have to admit Montana is my favorite state.


Couldn't resist showing a picture from (GTTSR) in Glacier NP.
(http://www.zggtr.org/MGalleryItem.php?id=11)

Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Kazairl on June 28, 2012, 09:06:28 AM
Sorry I kind of forgot about this. lol. This will be my first time into Montana and Canada.

 I think I'm going to skip the black hills this trip or else go through it on the way back. My loose plan of action now is to take I80 to 25 and just take it north all the way to 90 and then over to the Glacier area.

  I might stop for a day in the Big Horns. Cross them on HWY 16 and then cross them again on 14. Goof around for a day or two around Glacier and take hwy 93 north into Canada and hit the Trans Canadian hwy or keep going north to Jasper on the Icefields parkway. Though from what I've been reading I may be sharing the road with every Tom Dick and Harry.

 Then head West to Kamloops and down towards Vancouver then south into Washington and maybe Oregon. Then head back East through Idaho and Wyoming probably by I80 again. Depends on how much time I have left to get home.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Kazairl on June 28, 2012, 11:33:11 AM
After doing a lot of looking and reading I think this is roughly the route I plan on taking.

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Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on June 29, 2012, 08:05:57 AM
Looks like quiet a ride!  If you don’t mind my asking, was just wondering why you are skipping the Beartooth Hwy?

I might stop for a day in the Big Horns. Cross them on HWY 16 and then cross them again on 14.
Nice.  Wish I were there right now! :thumbs:

IIRC, Last summer, there was a bit of rough roadwork on Hwy 16 a few miles out of Ten Sleep on the way to Worland.

Looks like you’re going to skip Hwy 31 between Ten Sleep and Manderson.  Was just going to say, IIRC, I had the “Tee in the road” on 31 kinda snuck up on me once.

BTW, here’s hoping the heat-wave tapers off.

oops--snuck not sneak.  failed to correct it in MSword before posting.  My bad.


Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Kazairl on June 29, 2012, 09:03:44 AM
Looks like quiet a ride!  If you don’t mind my asking, was just wondering why you are skipping the Beartooth Hwy?
Nice.  Wish I were there right now! :thumbs:

No good reason. I was trying not to pack so many roads and side trips into this so I don't feel rushed to get anywhere. Plus there is always the trip back. Have you been on the west 212 and used hwy 89 to Livingston? It looks like it goes through a bunch of foothills then 89 flattens out into a valley.

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IIRC, Last summer, there was a bit of rough roadwork on Hwy 16 a few miles out of Ten Sleep on the way to Worland.

Looks like you’re going to skip Hwy 31 between Ten Sleep and Manderson.  Was just going to say, IIRC, I had the “Tee in the road” on 31 kinda sneak up on me once.

BTW, here’s hoping the heat-wave tapers off.


 I might skip 16 on the trip up and hit it on the way back or else save it for the next trip. That will save me somewhere around 200 miles just crossing the big horns once on 14. Although Hwy 31 looks interesting.

 And ditto on the heat wave. It has been over 100 pretty much all week here. I've been watching the weather along my way and the farther north I get the cooler it gets. Kamloops has a projected high of mid 80's. Sounds like heaven to me right now.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on June 29, 2012, 11:58:02 AM
Have you been on the west 212 and used hwy 89 to Livingston? It looks like it goes through a bunch of foothills then 89 flattens out into a valley.
Yes, I have been on 212 and 89.  Was in Cooke City (on 212) this past summer.  My first trip on 89 between Yellowstone NP and Livingston was way back in 1980 IIRC.   I lived in Montana back then.  The last time I was on that stretch of road was in 03 or 04.  I’ve been on 89 between Great Falls and I 90 many times.  If you do take 89 between YNP and Livingston I think you will get to see what  some folks used to call “the devil’s slide".

Nowadays I tend to skip Yellowstone.  For me it’s sort of a BTDT several times kinda of thing.  Besides, I don’t care for the traffic/crowds and I miss the “good ole days” before the elk herds were, as some would say, “decimated".  And, I'd rather be in Glacier NP any day than YNP.  Just a personal preference.  Luv the GTTSR.

Although Hwy 31 looks interesting.
That’s a nice little bit of some rural Wyoming countryside that I enjoy seeing.  It’s quiet a contrast from my local area.


Speaking of the Big Horn Mts.  I had one of these give me a little chase this past summer.  Wasn't far from Burgess Jct.
(http://www.zggtr.org/MGalleryItem.php?id=161)

Can’t help but be curious, is this a solo trip?  Are you going to be camping, moteling, or both?


Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Kazairl on June 29, 2012, 02:19:57 PM
Solo and mostly camping. Although I expect I'll break down and find a motel room occasionally.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on June 29, 2012, 03:20:50 PM
Heck of a ride/adventure IMO.  Here’s wishing you the best and a safe ride. 

BTW, not a lot of choices for eats on the road (89) between Livingston and Great Falls.  A few stops in White Sulphur Springs including bars and maybe one in Monarch IIRC.

Oh, and that stretch of 89 between Livingston and the little belts is what I call a prairie/valley ride.(http://www.zggtr.org/MGalleryItem.php?id=13)

Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Kazairl on June 30, 2012, 12:08:06 AM
I had a feeling. I think I get enough of that around here. :)

 Many thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Clark Kent on June 30, 2012, 04:10:29 PM
Just remember, if your going to stay near YNP do it in Cody, Wy.  If you stay in West Yellowstone it will cost you twice as much for not as much. 

Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: C1xRider on June 30, 2012, 06:22:14 PM
Where ever you go in that area, pack extra water and maybe some snacks (like granola bars and maybe a bag of jerky).  Places to stop and buy things are more plentiful then they used to be, but you still need to be prepared to fend for yourself, no matter what.

My buddy and I did Hwy 12 all the way from Lewiston ID to the SD boarder a couple years ago.  Another awesome way to cross MT and WY.  Especially between ID and MT.

Also, be on the lookout for the WSP, as they love to speed trap around the boarders, and the speeds in WY are still ridiculously low when off the Interstates.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Canada44 on June 30, 2012, 06:55:01 PM
If you plan on riding in BC Canada beware of the 7 day impound of your vehicle if you get caught speeding in our beautiful province.  Anything over 40km/hr ( approx 25m/hr) over the posted speed limit is an automatic impound.  There have been many people visiting BC that have been caught.  I think this is BS.


have a safe trip

C44
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on July 01, 2012, 12:36:58 PM
Anyone else been to Wyoming’s Rib & Chop House in Cody or Famous Dave’s in Bozeman?

I've read the burgers are "right tasty" at the Bear Lodge resort near Burgess Junction.  I've been to the Lodge but don't know about the grub.  Anyone else?
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: sherob on July 01, 2012, 03:31:41 PM
Famous Dave's is the McDonald's of BBQ here in CO... As a misplaced Texan, I would not suggest it to any of my friends expecting good Q.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Beamer on July 09, 2012, 06:00:07 AM
Well, just got back last Saturday from our adventure and it was amazing. Montana is a rider's paradise.

We trailered to Bozeman on 6/30, slept, and on the 1st we rode thru the North side of YNP and took in some of the attractions, but bailed out to the North-East entrance on to the Beartooth given all of the traffic in the park. The Beartooth was amazing, just a spectacular ride. We really wish we would have skipped the park that morning and rode the Josheph Highway instead.
 
On the 2nd we woke early and headed west out of Bozeman onto Highway 2 on to Highway 69 and headed towards Helena thru Boulder, MT running just to the west of the Elk Horn Mtns as far as we could. Once in Helena we headed west on 279 and took a left when we got to 200, and had just one spectacular ride over Fletcher's Pass. We continued to the North thru Swan Lake on to the Flathead to end up staying the night in Kallispel. If you ever have the time to stop in this town, I highly recommend the Fillet at Mot's. Such a great dinner.

We spend 2 nights in Kallispel due to weather (rain). And eventually made it over the Road to the Sun. We all loved the ride, but I suggest one look into the road conditions when going thru Glacier N.P. They currently have 3 miles of the road down to the dirt. And I am fine with the dirt, but they have applied a SERIOUS amount of brine to the dirt to help keep it firm and not washing away in the rain. The combination of brine and ground up tar they have put down built up a 1/2" thick crust of crud that looked like and turned out to be as tough as spray-in-bedliner on my headers, jammed into the radiator, and coated my CS-One with tar all the way up. It took 16 hours of work and 3 gallons of gasoline (the only thing I could find that would cut that stuff). Had to drain the coolant, remove the radiator, all of the exhaust, etc.........). Had we known, we would have rode in from the East and out from the East.

On the 4th we rode South on Highway 89, thru Helena from the North and hopped on Highway 15, and thought it was expressway, the scenery was great, and eventually we made it back to the truck in Bozeman on the night of the 4th to take in PBR's and Pizza in the hotel parking lot while watching downtown Bozeman celebrate the 4th. 
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Roadhound on July 09, 2012, 11:28:26 AM
I'm happy to hear that you had a good trip. It's to bad you missed Chief Joseph Hwy but that gives you a good reason to go back.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on July 09, 2012, 06:18:15 PM
Well, just got back last Saturday from our adventure and it was amazing. Montana is a rider's paradise.
:thumbs: Pix to share?

I'm happy to hear that you had a good trip. It's to bad you missed Chief Joseph Hwy but that gives you a good reason to go back.
Beautiful area for sure.
(http://www.zggtr.org/MGalleryItem.php?id=339)

 OTOH, tar snakes for a few miles west of Dead Indian Pass were a pain last summer.(http://www.zggtr.org/MGalleryItem.php?id=263)

Have you been out there this year roadhound?
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Roadhound on July 10, 2012, 09:45:22 AM
Hi Shokdimn, your right about the tar snakes on Chief Joseph Hwy. They have been getting worse for several years now. I remember when the road was dirt and gravel so what we have is a big improvement, even with the Tar Snakes.

I'm heading out in September. I've a friend who has never ridden in the Yellowstone area, so we're going in that direction.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on July 12, 2012, 05:47:21 PM
Hi Shokdimn, your right about the tar snakes on Chief Joseph Hwy. They have been getting worse for several years now. I remember when the road was dirt and gravel so what we have is a big improvement, even with the Tar Snakes.
Copy that.

 I don’t know about you but I preferred the BTH when it was a bit rougher just a few years ago.  You know, before the repaving with the smooth asphalt.

Probably won’t be long before 16 and 14A in the Bighorns will also be smooth pavement from end to end too.  But then again, Wyoming & Montana winters have a way of returning “character” to those roads.


I'm heading out in September. I've a friend who has never ridden in the Yellowstone area, so we're going in that direction.
Hey, safe trip to ya’ll too! :thumbs:  Your friend is in for a real treat.  Especially since he/she is traveling with someone who knows the area.

 
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on July 12, 2012, 05:50:11 PM
Awesome! Keep the suggestions coming! I'm going to going through Glacier and and Yellowstone as I am planning a trip to British Columbia the 14th through the 28th of July.
“Howze” trip planning going?  Any refinements to your travel plan?
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Beamer on July 13, 2012, 09:29:39 AM
Beartooth Hwy
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/529382_10151079164271181_1027580748_n.jpg)

Logan's Pass in Glacier
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East Side of Glacier
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West Side of Glacier
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Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on July 13, 2012, 01:29:26 PM
Talk about “CHILLING OUT”! :thumbs:
Logan's Pass in Glacier
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/558321_10151079165281181_467024535_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Kazairl on July 13, 2012, 10:10:11 PM
“Howze” trip planning going?  Any refinements to your travel plan?

 Not really. I've been considering riding to Shoshoni and hitting the Wind River Canyon. I've helped some friends of mine move cows several times in those hills but I've never actually been through the canyon. But if I do that I will have to do a lot of back tracking to go through the big horns.  I'll see what I feel like doing when I hit Casper. I still have idea how I'm getting back. lol


  Doing some last minute packing right now and I'll be leaving in the morning.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on July 14, 2012, 06:55:41 AM
Doing some last minute packing right now and I'll be leaving in the morning.
Far out!  Wish I could head out too.  Unfortunately, no “kitchen-pass” for me.  Once again, safe trip to ya.



I still have idea how I'm getting back. lol
All part of an adventure right?
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Kazairl on July 27, 2012, 07:41:00 PM
Just made it back. The first mod I am getting after this trip is an aftermarket seat. I have a huge case of numb bum. Other than that life is good. I'll probably put some pictures up tomorrow. The entire trip covered right around 4k miles.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: shokdimn on July 28, 2012, 09:21:59 AM
First question, did you ride the BTH?

Looking forward to some pix.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Kazairl on July 30, 2012, 09:55:45 AM
I did and it was awesome. Still working on the pics. Strangely enough there are lots of things that require your attention after you've been gone for two weeks.  lol.
Title: Re: Help with trip planning - S. Daktoa , Wyoming, Montana - June 30th thru July 7th
Post by: Kazairl on August 19, 2012, 12:25:46 PM
Finally uploaded them all to photobucket

 In the Bighorns

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The Medicine wheel

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Random People on Horseback

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The road you have to hike to get to the medicine wheel. About 3 miles total.

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Place I camped at looking West
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Dead Indian Summit
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Beartooth
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(http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad287/ddcummins/Canada%202012/0A0_1008.jpg)
Random Harley parked behind me
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Group of guys I met in St. Mary. We are getting ready to head over the GTTSR which we discovered was closed about 10 miles in due to rock slides.(They still took our 12 dollars though)
(http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad287/ddcummins/Canada%202012/0A0_1013.jpg)

On a Boat
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Kootenay Lake
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New Denver
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On the ride between Kamloops and the Coast
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Mt. Rainer
(http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad287/ddcummins/Canada%202012/0A0_1134.jpg)

The route I took.
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