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Title: sound for helmet
Post by: Squishman on May 26, 2011, 07:30:57 AM
Does anyone know if there is a helmet that is wired for sound with pre installed headphones? Either bluetooth or wired is fine. I'd prefer to have something like that instead of earbuds.
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Outback_Jon on May 26, 2011, 07:44:51 AM
Pre-installed - I don't know.

But there are several companies that make helmets that are designed to be wired up.  Nolan has several, and HJC just recently introduced one.  Nolan has their own kits that install, including headphone speakers and microphone and offer both a wired and a wireless (Bluetooth) communications unit.  The HJC IS-MAX modular is designed to use the Chatterbox XBi2-H com units.
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Mal on May 26, 2011, 08:05:50 AM
Does anyone know if there is a helmet that is wired for sound with pre installed headphones? Either bluetooth or wired is fine. I'd prefer to have something like that instead of earbuds.

J&M sells helmets that are pre-wired with their stuff...
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Organdonor on May 26, 2011, 08:20:07 AM
I bought a Sena Blutooth headset for my new Nolan and the Nolan had little cutouts that the Sena speakers popped into almost perfectly. In fact, I didn't have to use the included Velcro to adhere them in.

A buddy of mine wanted a helmet that came from the factory with everything built in BY the factory. No luck.
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: MrPepsi on May 26, 2011, 09:12:07 AM
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=bluetooth+helmets (http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=bluetooth+helmets)
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: JetJock on May 26, 2011, 12:23:50 PM
Nothing with everything supplied other than maybe J&M but they don't actually make the helmets.

Some helmets are more music friendly than others. And people have wildly different ideas of what kinds/types of systems they need/want.

Look for helmets that come already equipped with speaker pockets and you're half-way there.
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: MrPepsi on May 26, 2011, 01:14:54 PM
I'm thinking Scorpion made a Blue Tooth helmet.
I would never buy one though as I don't want to be locked in to the their blue tooth device.
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Squishman on May 26, 2011, 04:59:07 PM
Thx for all the awesome advice! Going on a 3 day, 4 state ride next month. It will be my longest ride on the Conk.
Can't wait!
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Squishman on May 26, 2011, 08:41:50 PM
Ok, I have a really lame question. I have been riding since I have been 16 (50 now) and I never noticed if there is a break-in period for a helmet. Do you ever feel like you need to break it in like a new pair of shoes?
Q: is it a good idea to take a new helmet on a trip?
I am wondering if I should take my old Shoei RF-900 on the trip and begin using the new one when I get back.
My problem is, is that I bought the new one today (Scorpion Exo-700) and it has a chip on the finish, so they are ordering another one. It was the last one in my size/color, so I wouldn't be able to get it until just before I leave, if it even comes on time. So, I will have no time to break it in.
I keep my helmets a little too long, so I just can't remember if there are hot spots like new shoes. 
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: MrPepsi on May 27, 2011, 09:08:20 AM
Yes there is a break in period or should be, or its not snug enough. However it should not be soooo snug that it causes discomfort even on a long trip. If you do get into a situation though were you have a specific hot spot, try taking out your cheak pads and the pads on top of your head and look at the stiff foam. You should be able to use a spoon and press the foam in the spots that are causing discomfort and give you a bit more room for your head.

If I just bought a helmet, and it felt ok for an hour or so, I would take it on the trip.
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: JetJock on May 27, 2011, 02:53:07 PM
Yes there is a break in period or should be, or its not snug enough. However it should not be soooo snug that it causes discomfort even on a long trip. If you do get into a situation though were you have a specific hot spot, try taking out your cheak pads and the pads on top of your head and look at the stiff foam. You should be able to use a spoon and press the foam in the spots that are causing discomfort and give you a bit more room for your head.

If I just bought a helmet, and it felt ok for an hour or so, I would take it on the trip.

What he said. Good advice.
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: m919 on May 27, 2011, 04:48:03 PM
motorcycle-super store.com has them on sale
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Squishman on May 27, 2011, 04:53:07 PM
Well, I found my color (neon yellow) and size at MotoPrimo. So, that is awesome that I can break it in before my trip.
And I got MotoComm Thumper helmet speakers.
It's all coming together! Thanks for that info Mr Pepsi.
Thx dudes.
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Squishman on May 28, 2011, 01:26:22 PM
I tried the MotoComm Thumpers in the Scorpion. Sucked. Not loud enough. So, I am going to go with plan b. Use my high-end Sony ear buds. They sound good. No idea how long I can tolerate them. Few hours here and there, I imagine will be fine.

I like the look of that Neon Yellow. I also was thinking about an orange Shoei RF 1100. Looks cool. And high-visibility like my Scorpion to boot. But the Scorp was about 1/2 the cost.
My other helmet is a nine year old RF900. And it is quieter with the shield open. I discovered the Scorp is the same way. The Scorp is really noisy with it closed. I guess you get what you pay for. I don't mind riding with it open. I wonder though, if I shelled out the bucks for the Shoei if it is any better.
Now I see the benefit of a higher windshield. But I don't want that.

Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: oldsmoboat on May 30, 2011, 09:42:59 AM
I bought two Oneal Tirade BlueTooth helmets from cyclegear.com
Cyclegear.com customer service sucks.
Oneal customer service sucks.
The radio in the helmet sucks.
The intercom in the helmet sucks.
The bluetooth in the helmet sucks.

Other than that, it's a helmet.   :(
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Squishman on May 30, 2011, 10:13:31 AM
I did notice this weekend whilst preparing and trying things out, that with the tunage playing, I am not bothered so much by the wind noise.
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Outback_Jon on May 31, 2011, 07:04:36 AM
The issue of Rider magazine that I got last week (July, I think) has a review of Bluetooth helmet headsets in it that you might find helpful.

At the moment, I use a really tiny set of noise-isolating earbuds that fit mostly in my ears.  My helmet doesn't interfere with them at all.  I have an MP3 player hooked either directly to them, or through my ham radio, and can hear them quite nicely.  Plus they block out a lot of the wind noise.
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Squishman on May 31, 2011, 11:55:39 AM
Does anyone know of any noise cancelling earbuds that reduce or eliminate wind noise?
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Squishman on May 31, 2011, 03:45:53 PM
I just went to best buy and the noise cancelling ear buds are pretty beefy and wouldn't work well in a helmet.
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Outback_Jon on May 31, 2011, 04:18:42 PM
These are "noise-isolating" as opposed to "noise-cancelling":  (assuming by "cancelling" you mean electronic noise cancellation)

http://wickedheadphones.com/collection/headphones/in-ear/wicked-little-buds (http://wickedheadphones.com/collection/headphones/in-ear/wicked-little-buds)

They fit nicely inside my helmet.  The bass isn't fantastic due to the small drivers, but they do work pretty well.  They come with three different tips to fit your ears.

I don't know if you'll be able to find effective electronic noise cancelling headphones for on a motorcycle.  Every set I've ever seen have the microphone that is used to pick up ambient noise on the cord.  For wind noise in a helmet, that mic would have to be on the earbuds themselves to be effective.  (Probably making them even bigger than the ones you saw at Best Buy)

Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Squishman on May 31, 2011, 04:29:02 PM
Yeah, Jon. I knew you what you were referring to. And that cancelling earbuds are a different animal. Good thinking that the mic might not be effective in the helmet anyway. Thanks for the info.
I did pick up a pair of Yurbuds. They are supposed to be very comfortable. They are designed for runners to stay secure and comfortable.
Comfort is very important for me of course and these seal your ear better than anything I've ever seen. I got the Ironman model.
And the sound is good.
I'll report back after my trip next weekend.
Thanks for everyone's input.
Title: Re: sound for helmet
Post by: Squishman on June 06, 2011, 08:26:39 PM
The Yurbuds were great. They sound very good and felt pretty good most of the 915 mile ride.