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Offline jdhreiss

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First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« on: January 04, 2014, 02:24:33 PM »
  I had my 2008 ABS in for it's first valve adjustment at 112,000 miles, and was told that the valves were still in spec.  The cam chain was replaced, but everything else was ok.  I can only attribute this to using Castrol full synthetic oil every 5k with NAPA Gold (Wix) oil filters after the initial 3k break in.  I ride year round, in the Pacific Northwest with it's wet winters.  I was going to consider a new one, but I'm going for 200k first!

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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2014, 03:01:07 PM »
Excellent!  What made them replace the cam chain?
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2014, 03:23:14 PM »
Wow- congrats!
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2014, 03:31:08 PM »
Quote from: VirginiaJim on January 04, 2014, 03:01:07 PM
Excellent!  What made them replace the cam chain?

The way mine clanks and grinds every time I crank the bike I bet its going to need a replacement too
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2014, 04:05:19 PM »
 :finger_fing11: :chugbeer:

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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2014, 05:55:01 PM »
Great, glad to hear it.

Did they replace the cam chain tensioner as well as the chain? And as Jim already asked, was the cam chain stretched too far?

Brian

Quote from: jdhreiss on January 04, 2014, 02:24:33 PM
  I had my 2008 ABS in for it's first valve adjustment at 112,000 miles, and was told that the valves were still in spec.  The cam chain was replaced, but everything else was ok.  I can only attribute this to using Castrol full synthetic oil every 5k with NAPA Gold (Wix) oil filters after the initial 3k break in.  I ride year round, in the Pacific Northwest with it's wet winters.  I was going to consider a new one, but I'm going for 200k first!

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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2014, 06:09:15 PM »
Wow!  Glad to hear that your C14 has run so well. 
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2014, 06:25:29 PM »
Glad to hear it has run so well w/o spending $700.+ and leaving your bike for a week with some dork who claims to have checked the lifters. My cam chain is also really noisy on all starts and is my only complaint with the bike so far- is that why they replaced yours?
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2014, 06:39:24 PM »
The C-14 start up rattle is caused by the cam chain tensioner and is normal on this bike. There is a brief description of what is happening here: http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=14243.msg174886#msg174886

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Quote from: connie14boy on January 04, 2014, 06:25:29 PM
Glad to hear it has run so well w/o spending $700.+ and leaving your bike for a week with some dork who claims to have checked the lifters. My cam chain is also really noisy on all starts and is my only complaint with the bike so far- is that why they replaced yours?
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2014, 07:21:43 PM »
Great to know about the noise, I though the starter was hanging up.
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2014, 07:24:02 PM »
Nope.  Totally normal.
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2014, 07:27:24 PM »
I believe it is actually the cam chain sliding against the inside of the engine block when the bike is tilted to the left (on the sidestand) and the oil pressure has not yet extended the hydraulic portion of the cam chain tensioner. I do know that a mechanical cam chain tensioner eliminates the noise altogether.

Brian

Quote from: spatten on January 04, 2014, 07:21:43 PM
Great to know about the noise, I though the starter was hanging up.
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2014, 07:58:13 PM »
  The cam chain was always noisy on start-up, for 5-10 seconds or so.  But it began not to fully quiet down as time went on.  The mechanic said the chains are good for about 80k.  Since they were in there, they recommended the chain, tensioner and related be replaced.  Since I've had the bike I've replaced 10 front tires, 10 rear tires, 3 sets of front brake pads, 4 sets of rears, both front rotors (warranty), 3 sets of spark plugs, 1 right torque arm bearing and added a K&N a/f, Cee Bailey windshield, Baker deflectors over the mirrors and heated grips.  The muffler has been shortened 4" and the baffles punched out to 1.25".  39 mpg when riding alone, 43 mpg w/friends!  Can't wait for it to be free from the clutches of the shop!

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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2014, 04:55:26 AM »
Looks like a very efficient use of rear tyres. 11 000 miles a piece? I usually manage half of that  :P
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2014, 06:02:12 AM »
 After you pointed that out- I have to check my notes again.  I must have missed some.  I've toasted a rear Metzler M-5 I bought out on the road in 4k miles.  As my Garmin sez......  RECALCULATING!
 
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2014, 07:05:08 AM »
Martin_14

 I have it now.

                                  Front tires:                        Rear tires:

 BattleAx 021                     3                                       1
 BattleAx 014                     1                                       1
 Dunlop Sportmax               1                                       1
 Dunlop Qualifiers               1                                       1
 Dunlop Roadsmart             2                                       2
 Pirelli Diablo                     1                                       1
 Pilot Road 2                     2                                       4
 Metzler M5                       0                                       1
 Unknown                         1                                        1

Total                               12  (9333 avg)                    13 (8615 avg) PR2 avg 12,333 mi ea

Found them in my scribbling!  I bought the dunlops and pirelli's @ Cycle Gear for 200$ a set

Joe

 
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2014, 07:46:04 AM »
Amazing!  What a great milestone.  Makes the rest of us hope for the same success
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2014, 11:01:47 AM »
I had a feeling that valve checks were overrated on that engine, matter of fact I think they may be overrated on the majority.
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2014, 01:04:39 PM »
Congrats on the dependability of your 2008.
My 2010 is at 45,000 and no valve check done or planned. I think that they are overrated. My 2010 feels better than my 2011. Michelin PR2s  are still my favorite.
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Re: First Valve Adjustment @ 112,000
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2014, 05:43:35 PM »
  I've been told by bike mechanics at 2 dealerships that the plug replacement and valve clearance intervals are governed by emissions regs, not wear and tear.  I have checked a set of plugs with 60k on them.  I put them in @ .032" and took them out @ .035"!  My bud owns a Suzuki road race team and he said use the synthetics and have the valve clearances checked when the mpg goes away or the engine runs soft.....  Can a C14 run soft???   A couple of months ago I ran a 0-90 test videoed at 7 flat at the top of 2nd and that was with over 100k on it with the loud cam chain.  Gotta love those Kawi motors!

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