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Offline MGvaleri

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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #60 on: December 09, 2012, 01:07:41 PM »
Ho un nuovo videoclip,il cuscinetto non ha più 4 sfere,dove sono andate,polverizzate??? non direi!!!
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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2012, 03:28:46 PM »
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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #62 on: December 09, 2012, 03:46:22 PM »
MG, you really ought to replace that bearing while you have it apart.  ;)

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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #63 on: December 09, 2012, 06:03:35 PM »
How does the left side look?  I'm thinking MOB hit the nail on the head.  Even the best mechanic makes an assembly error, it just happens.  Here's to hopping the drive hub survived, just make sure it's checked carefully.  I think I'd be looking for a donor bike to fix the rear end.

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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #64 on: December 09, 2012, 06:35:27 PM »
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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2012, 03:55:35 AM »
That's scary! :o
It seems that some spheres are missing.... or have they just vapourized??
That's definitely one thing Kawasaki should investigate about
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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #66 on: December 10, 2012, 04:19:01 AM »
 Operation successful for removing wheel, new video being processed. ; A
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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #67 on: December 10, 2012, 05:58:06 AM »
Il migliore FAI DA TE Italiano ahahahahahahahah :stirpot:

http://youtu.be/L6KiBJlPxsM

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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #68 on: December 10, 2012, 07:57:53 AM »
Yup, looks like the bearing cage broke up and seized the wheel to the axle.
This then resulted in the whole axle turning which melted/milled it's way through the swingarm.
So, parts list will be
Right "boomerang" part of the swingarm + new bolts
Axle + castle nut
Bearings
Brake carrier.

Could have been worse if that wheel locked up for even a moment.  :yikes:
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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #69 on: December 10, 2012, 10:38:11 AM »
Yup, looks like the bearing cage broke up and seized the wheel to the axle.
This then resulted in the whole axle turning which melted/milled it's way through the swingarm.
So, parts list will be
Right "boomerang" part of the swingarm + new bolts
Axle + castle nut
Bearings
Brake carrier.

Could have been worse if that wheel locked up for even a moment.  :yikes:

:thumbs: :hail:Boomer

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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #70 on: December 10, 2012, 10:45:38 AM »
Yup, looks like the bearing cage broke up and seized the wheel to the axle.
This then resulted in the whole axle turning which melted/milled it's way through the swingarm.
So, parts list will be
Right "boomerang" part of the swingarm + new bolts
Axle + castle nut
Bearings
Brake carrier.

Could have been worse if that wheel locked up for even a moment.  :yikes:

 :thumbs: Yup, what I said when I first saw this. Makes me want to replace my wheel bearings this winter.

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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #71 on: December 10, 2012, 11:08:27 AM »
I have created alarm, my problem was a 4 ball bearing with missing source.
Check the new bearings that we all spheres, is a very rare but not impossible, this is my message to truth. ;)


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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #72 on: December 10, 2012, 06:15:58 PM »
I didnt look at everything posted but was there a spacer between the two bearings?

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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #73 on: December 10, 2012, 10:38:39 PM »
I didnt look at everything posted but was there a spacer between the two bearings?

Yes.


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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #74 on: December 11, 2012, 04:48:36 AM »
I think what MG is saying is that this bearing was badly made.
He says that the remaining balls are all round but that 4 balls were missing.
Now if those balls had disintegrated then there would be gritty grease in there and the remaining balls would be scored and pitted.

What in fact happened was poor assembly of the bearing with 4 balls missing.
Chances are the rest of the balls were evenly distributed so it ran for a while.
Then, under stress (heat, load) the cage collapsed into the gaps where the missing balls should have been and that locked the bearing, spinning the axle and causing the damage.

Moral of the story is when changing your bearings, pop one of the dust seals off and check that yer balls are where they should be.
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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #75 on: December 11, 2012, 04:56:00 AM »
Nothing worse than having your balls go missing.
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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #76 on: December 11, 2012, 05:02:31 AM »
Are we to assume this is an oem bearing? And it ran how many miles with four balls missing?

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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #77 on: December 11, 2012, 06:22:29 AM »
I think what MG is saying is that this bearing was badly made.
He says that the remaining balls are all round but that 4 balls were missing.
Now if those balls had disintegrated then there would be gritty grease in there and the remaining balls would be scored and pitted.

What in fact happened was poor assembly of the bearing with 4 balls missing.
Chances are the rest of the balls were evenly distributed so it ran for a while.
Then, under stress (heat, load) the cage collapsed into the gaps where the missing balls should have been and that locked the bearing, spinning the axle and causing the damage.

Moral of the story is when changing your bearings, pop one of the dust seals off and check that yer balls are where they should be.

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Re: How many was that?? Rear wheel bearing failure.
« Reply #78 on: December 11, 2012, 06:35:08 AM »
In a drive shaft as the GTR 1400 bearings are used to spin the wheel, and suffer less from km facts and loads, or understand this or do not give a right of information security. ;)


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Was this the original Kawasaki bearing? How many miles on the bike?

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