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Offline Steve in Sunny Fla

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Free power!
« on: December 15, 2013, 07:51:49 pm »
  Here ya go - Steve

Free Power for Concours ZG1000

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Re: Free power!
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2013, 03:51:34 am »
Very nice Steve. Thanks for posting.

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Re: Free power!
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2013, 06:18:02 am »
Great video Steve....

It did not strike me when you and I first spoke about this but it did after watching the video I think the reason I've never noticed any oddity on my bike is that one of the first mods on my bike was to add an extra fuse bank. But at the same time I also added an extra negative block that is heavily fortified both to battery and ground. Thus even though I've got a lot of extra electrical draw on my bike I've never asked the stock wiring harness to handle ANY of this extra load power or ground wise... In fact I've reduced it as my headlight has long been running on it's own power leads straight from the battery.

Voltage loss is very critical to the ignition on these bikes and Kawasaki did us no favor when they sized the wire gauge to no bigger than absolutely needed; add in a few connections that are not 100 % and you've quickly lost some precious voltage.

Another good reason to connect the now unused ground wire solidly to the frame when you install the stick coil conversion harness.
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2013, 06:26:28 am »
Nice!  Great idea.
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2013, 09:20:39 am »
Very nice find, thanks for sharing.
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2013, 03:35:57 pm »
I'm not sure how much is my imagination and how much is actual improvement but this "mod" seems to make a tremendous difference in power on my 02.  I have to admit that I did the quick version and just ran a ground from the accessory ground to the frame so far because I was anxious to  see what happened.  I haven't ridden a lot lately but the bike just seemed so much more responsive to the throttle on my short test ride a few minutes ago.  It's kind of cool here with temps just above 50 but after the bike was warmed up, she just seemed more spirited than ever.  I revved it a few times as I was putting her back in the garage... it just felt like it had more power than normal, revved easier and even sounded more powerful.  I'll have to do a little more test riding later in the week and see if I still have the same impression.  I guess it will be easy right now to compare with and without this mod by just pulling the lead from the accessory ground lead and see if I can tell a difference.  I'll probably go with the same configuration as Steve if I decide to make this permanent.  Thanks once again to Steve and all of the other members here for all that you guys do to make our bikes better!
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2013, 06:34:32 am »
Sounds like a neat idea, and great video by the way. I am always up for free stuff so this is right up my alley.  :thumbs: :goodpost:

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Re: Free power!
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2013, 05:18:24 am »
One thing you need to be wary of is a ground loop.
This is where you have different paths to ground.
What can happen is that you get a slight voltage difference on one path from another (due to minutely different resistances) which can lead to oscillations in that loop which can interfere with electronic equipment.
Likely minor side effects are interference with any radio equipment but in the worst case it can interfere with the firing signals for the CDI leading to erratic ignition.
Ground on a motorcycle is the -ve terminal on the battery.

I will also be trying Steve's idea this weekend with a specific wire direct to the battery -ve.
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2013, 07:41:53 pm »
TY Steve,
And since it is looking like a pretty wet day here in Central Ohio for Sunday, I now have a project for Hey Baby.
Everyone ride safe out there.
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2013, 08:14:41 pm »
Steve,
Thanks for the video and the idea.  I performed this mod on my '06 the other day.  I have not noticed more power, but I haven't pushed hard enough to tell.  I did notice it is much less buzzy on the interstate.  This bike is one that is quite a bit buzzier than the Y2K that came before it.  Thanks!
John

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Re: Free power!
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2014, 10:11:11 pm »
Nice find Steve!  I'll give it a shot on Sofie and test it out when the snow melts.
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2014, 06:22:07 pm »
WOW,
What a difference in throttle response and acceleration. One of the best mods I have ever made, TY Steve.
Ride safe all,
Greg
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2014, 04:03:15 pm »
I still haven't gotten around to doing it.
But SOOOONNNN!!

Ride safe, Ted

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Re: Free power!
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2014, 05:34:33 am »
I still haven't gotten around to doing it.
But SOOOONNNN!!

Ride safe, Ted

Me too.  I even rewatched the video on Monday so I know what to do without instructions.  It's not fun when its 20-30 degrees in the garage.  As our weather goes, it’s been a pretty cold and tough winter here in NoVA.  I've burned 3 cords of wood and have enough for one more fire (maybe tomorrow night when it is 16d).  Then it is heat pump only time.  We'll get a $350 electric bill out of it.
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Will Free power mod fix parasitic drag on my '86?
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2014, 08:56:10 am »
Steve, thanks much for these and your other posts.  It is not my intent to hijack your thread, but I wonder if you could comment whether or not the "free power" mod could address a parasitic drain that my '86 has (w/36K miles).  Since I purchased the bike from the original owner 5 yrs ago, the owner gave me a battery tender (and suggested I use it).  If the bike is off the tender for over two weeks, the battery goes dead (even with a new battery).  I know that this kind of drain could be anywhere on the bike.  The bike is 100% stock with no apparent wiring re-work.  Lastly, the owner told me he installed a refurb J-box from Larry Buck just before I bought the bike.  Thanks!