KTRC Error

[wb57]

It has to be something to do with either the wiring to or the sensor itself or even the connectors.   I was wondering if the manual had any checks on that.   

I'd agree.  Basically, I've just looked at the sensors so far.  There was some road grime on one sensor and a decent amount of corrosion on the rotor portion on the other wheel.  Cleaned those up and I didn't see an error for a couple days or so.  But it reappeared the other night.  I'll run through the entire list I've got as soon as I've got the time.
There are no specific tests/checks in the manual for this.  Trickier when it's sporadic.

[B.D.F.]

The gap between the face of the sensor and the wheel is pretty critical and cannot exceed a very small amount (cannot remember what that is thouhg). You might want to check that the front and rear sensors have the same gap, as well as both sensors being square (perpendicular) to the wheel. Also, the ideally, the sensor should be centered very closely in the slots in the wheels (not higher or lower than the center of the slot path).

We have seen this kind of failure before with a sensor not mounted quite right due to a bent or misaligned bracket.

Brian

I'd agree.  Basically, I've just looked at the sensors so far.  There was some road grime on one sensor and a decent amount of corrosion on the rotor portion on the other wheel.  Cleaned those up and I didn't see an error for a couple days or so.  But it reappeared the other night.  I'll run through the entire list I've got as soon as I've got the time.
There are no specific tests/checks in the manual for this.  Trickier when it's sporadic.

[wb57]

The gap between the face of the sensor and the wheel is pretty critical and cannot exceed a very small amount (cannot remember what that is thouhg). You might want to check that the front and rear sensors have the same gap, as well as both sensors being square (perpendicular) to the wheel. Also, the ideally, the sensor should be centered very closely in the slots in the wheels (not higher or lower than the center of the slot path).

We have seen this kind of failure before with a sensor not mounted quite right due to a bent or misaligned bracket.

Brian

I did check the gap when I had them out the other day.  They were right at .7mm.  Spec is .7-.9mm.  I did not check for them being square and/or centered.  Assumed there wasn't much of a chance for it to be otherwise.

[MAN OF BLUES]

I'd agree.  Basically, I've just looked at the sensors so far.  There was some road grime on one sensor and a decent amount of corrosion on the rotor portion on the other wheel.  Cleaned those up and I didn't see an error for a couple days or so.  But it reappeared the other night.  I'll run through the entire list I've got as soon as I've got the time.
There are no specific tests/checks in the manual for this.  Trickier when it's sporadic.

exactly what year manual are you consulting?

I ask, as I have an 08-09 book, and of course it wouldnt show the process, but for those years all the ABS and related testing is shown in depth.. you have a 2010 and up manual? It should show all of this.. I have to dig up the '10 and up book now... but I have to think the process is in there.

I do know that the ABS/speed sensors and rings and computer box ARE different after '09, and not interchangable, just relating that until
 I get my later manual found...

ok, I found the book.... consult section 17, extremely filled with everything related to diagnostics....

also, note:
that sensor gap value should be 0.4 to 1.6mm (.015 to .063 inch)( oh, the manual is wrong when reading the inch values....they forgot the decimal point...heheheheh)...
so even though you are in the zone... it could be closer....
but as you replaced rotors back in time, I can't comment further...
it also shows the "B" codes relating to Ktrac/Kact errors, which can be invoked to further sift down the variables in the faults...

[wb57]

I thought mine was the current manual, but it appears it's for an '08, although this is on the cover:
1400GTR
CONCOURS 14 ABS
CONCOURS 14

[MAN OF BLUES]

I thought mine was the current manual, but it appears it's for an '08, although this is on the cover:
1400GTR
CONCOURS 14 ABS
CONCOURS 14

I guessed that by the gap measurement you noted.....

pretty good catch eh?     

hang tight, I have something to post, if I can get it to work....

here

[MAN OF BLUES]

one more
should be all ya need with the rest,

[maxtog]

I guessed that by the gap measurement you noted.....

pretty good catch eh?     

That was, indeed, a good catch.

The factory manual COVER for the 2nd gen looks the same as the 1st gen (with a different photo, since the bikes look different), but the SPINE will have years, something like "2010 - 2012" or later years.  The ABS system in the 2nd gen is considerably different than the 1st gen.... probably one of the biggest differences other than cosmetics (mirrors, fairings, covers, windscreen, etc).

[MAN OF BLUES]

yeah, the photo gives it away...

[VirginiaJim]

Gee, I'm glad you aren't banned here...    Thanks, Rich.

[MAN OF BLUES]

Gee, I'm glad you aren't banned here...    Thanks, Rich.

yeah, I'm opening shop here for the next 3 months...giving viable tech for free.... I don't foresee getting banned here,    over trivial b/s by someone who hasn't made a contribution to tech even tho it was their job      ...., or some snowflakes that say I'm a rude bastiche...    because you all already know I'm rude... and a curmudgeon...
 

the Dude abides...
 

[VirginiaJim]

Most excellent!

[gPink]

yeah, I'm opening shop here for the next 3 months...giving viable tech for free.... I don't foresee getting banned here,    over trivial b/s by someone who hasn't made a contribution to tech even tho it was their job      ...., or some snowflakes that say I'm a rude bastiche...    because you all already know I'm rude... and a curmudgeon...
 

the Dude abides...
 

...and get off my lawn!

[VirginiaJim]

   And that's why I love this place..

[B.D.F.]

Hey, it works for me. And I think you are right, you are not nearly abrasive enough to get banned here. Almost no- one is IME. But your real trouble is angering the GOOROOS and their mob of torch and pitchfork bearing packs, and as far as I know, there is none of that here.

Personally, I hope your health recovers sufficiently so that we may get, at least occasionally, some more of those alcohol induced, late- night, badly spelled and wrong- word using (who am I kidding- they were not even words) posts (kinda' like slurring the printed word) rambling on about stuff. I kinda' liked some of those. Really. But mostly, I do hope you health stabilizes and improves even without those fun posts.

And the dues here are pretty low- but combined with the lack of abuse, it is kind of a wash- out I guess. 

Curmudgeon on old man.....

Brian

yeah, I'm opening shop here for the next 3 months...giving viable tech for free.... I don't foresee getting banned here,    over trivial b/s by someone who hasn't made a contribution to tech even tho it was their job      ...., or some snowflakes that say I'm a rude bastiche...    because you all already know I'm rude... and a curmudgeon...
 

the Dude abides...