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Offline So Cal Joe

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130 db horn $10.38
« on: April 02, 2012, 07:31:02 PM »
I found this on Amazon. Anyone have one of these. 130 db should be louder than stock and the price is right. I just can't find the amps they draw.
http://www.amazon.com/FIAMM-72102-Term-Universal-Bracket/dp/B000FKKOK6/ref=pd_rhf_ee_shvl2

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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2012, 08:58:07 PM »
Fiamm horns are very loud and have a great tone.  Every Italian car I've ever owned had them.  It shouldn't draw any more amps than OEM horn.  It is just a matter of finding a convenient place for it.
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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2012, 05:13:01 AM »
I have that same horn 'cept it's the low note. One day I may even get it installed. The low note draws ~6.5 amps on the bench.
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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2012, 07:53:42 AM »
I installed the Low note version of that horn in the stock position. It takes a little inginuity and you have to be careful of the radiator, but it's doable.
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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2012, 09:27:32 AM »
I have that same horn 'cept it's the low note. One day I may even get it installed. The low note draws ~6.5 amps on the bench.

Sounds like a loud Bench !
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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2012, 09:29:16 AM »

Sounds like a loud Bench !


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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2012, 11:40:58 PM »
I have these on my 04, ZZR1200 and 03, BMW K1200GT (sold), just got them for my 2011 C14.  LOVE THEM!  Loud, sweet sound, light weight and like you said priced right!  I always get the low and high tone with an Eastern Beaver relay / dual horn wire harness (Jim is a great guy, makes the best stuff).  On all but the C14 the install has been underneath near the radiator. Hidden, but sound is unblocked, looks clean, sturdy and easy enough to DIY.  On the C14, there is not enough room there, did not want to do any 'Fred Cuts', thought about between the main side fairings one on each side (where frame sliders bolt on) but the headers are there and the horns are plastic, plus this location might somewhat diminish the full 139DB.  At first I did not like this idea but for the sake of simplicity, here's what I did (see pics).  Still have to get them wired but that should not be too hard.  I always take off the front and rear reflectors, bored out the hole a bit on the front.  The horns are small enough to make for a decent fit and don't weigh a lot.  I was going to do aux lights there but if I need more illumination at some point, I'll go HID although I did get the 25 LED T10's for the running lights.  Have not popped those in yet.  I'll think I'll point the horns more downward for wet weather.

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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2012, 05:50:12 AM »
Fiamm horns are very loud and have a great tone.  Every Italian car I've ever owned had them.  It shouldn't draw any more amps than OEM horn.  It is just a matter of finding a convenient place for it.

I don't have any specific information in front of me, but I'm quite sure they draw more than the stock horn.  I put them (the high & low) on my FJR and was very happy with them.  But I did use a relay to draw enough power from the battery.
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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2012, 07:28:25 PM »
RYDBABY, I like how you mounted them.  Looks good.

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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2012, 11:03:00 AM »
Thanks but I wired them up Friday night and they went "bomp" instead of "BLATTT".  I tested them on my ZZR, they were fine, so I thought they were not getting enough power, maybe wired them up wrong (that can't really happen with an Eastern Beaver harness).  A day went by, was removing them took them off of the mounts, accidently pressed the horn button and they SCREAMED!  Thought it was a ground issue but I had reached out for help and a wise man told me the Fiamms cannot be on a solid mount, they have to be able to vibrate, that's why they give you those thin mount plates.  Maybe if I read the directions.  Anyway, re-mounted them where the old horn was by using the old mount bracket and the supplied mount plates.  Took some adjusting but I have a 4 inch clearance from the fender, the C14 is 4.4 travel.  If they ever hit, they will easily bend up.  They clear the radiator and there is ample room for air circulation.  They look clean under there, they are LOUD, front facing, hidden from view and the elements, no cuts, no 'in fairing' worries.  I'm actually much happier with this location for the horns since that's where I have always installed them on my bikes.
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FIAMM 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2012, 06:52:48 PM »
Attached is the  FIAMM PDF with all the horn AMP ratings as well as the DB ratings   ;-)

http://www.fiamm.com/media/documents/09Catalog.pdf

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Re: FIAMM 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2012, 08:01:23 PM »
Attached is the  FIAMM PDF with all the horn AMP ratings as well as the DB ratings   ;-)

http://www.fiamm.com/media/documents/09Catalog.pdf

Thanks for posting that, it was very helpful.

I've hated the stock C14 horn since the first time I pushed the horn button and had to ask myself "was that really the horn??".  That faint "meeep meeeeeeeeeep" sound is pretty lame.

Looking at the trumpet horns in the link from the OP, I'm hesitant about going through the mounting hassles.

I looked through the PDF from the previous link, and found the one in the OP, but then went to the next page, and found the HK-9 Vibrator Series, specifically the 4031023 “C” High Note.  It's dimensions look very close to the stock one, it's spec'd at only 4 amps, and it's boasting the same 130dB rating as the trumpet style.

I searched around for somebody selling these, and so far only found this link : http://www.streetperformance.com/part/fiamm/6348816-4031023.html

Has anyone tried this one?  Anyone know anyone that's tried this one?  Anyone know anywhere else this particular one can be found?  The HK-9 series has several 24V to 48V models as well, so that adds to the confusion when searching for them.

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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2012, 06:30:16 AM »
I put these on my Voyager, but don't think I could fit them on the Concours.



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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2012, 06:36:03 AM »
If you mount those trumpet horns on your bike make sure the horns are facing down or back because water will ruin them.  I have found that basic electric horns tend to have the best longevity. 
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Re: FIAMM 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2012, 06:47:19 AM »
Thanks for posting that, it was very helpful.

I've hated the stock C14 horn since the first time I pushed the horn button and had to ask myself "was that really the horn??".  That faint "meeep meeeeeeeeeep" sound is pretty lame.

Looking at the trumpet horns in the link from the OP, I'm hesitant about going through the mounting hassles.

I looked through the PDF from the previous link, and found the one in the OP, but then went to the next page, and found the HK-9 Vibrator Series, specifically the 4031023 “C” High Note.  It's dimensions look very close to the stock one, it's spec'd at only 4 amps, and it's boasting the same 130dB rating as the trumpet style.

I searched around for somebody selling these, and so far only found this link : http://www.streetperformance.com/part/fiamm/6348816-4031023.html

Has anyone tried this one?  Anyone know anyone that's tried this one?  Anyone know anywhere else this particular one can be found?  The HK-9 series has several 24V to 48V models as well, so that adds to the confusion when searching for them.

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Update : robert.h.weinstein pointed me to the Pep Boys site (not sure why Google didn't do that) : http://static.pepboys.com/product/details/1235410/.  It's listed at $16.99, regular price.  Too bad they're showing the nearest store at 111 miles from me.

So could this just "replace" the stock horn and use the factory circuitry?  Thanks.

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FYI Fuse Specifications for 2008/2009 and 2010-2012
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2012, 08:50:59 AM »
2008 - 2009 taken from Source Post: Post http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=8002.msg96716#msg96716

Kawaski Concours Years 2008 - 2009

Fuse box 1 (midway)

1 - KIPASS Signal Relay - 10A
2 - Oxygen Sensor Heater - 15A
3 - KIPASS - 10A
4 - Electric Windshield - 30A
5 - Accessory - 10A

Fuse box 2 (towards the back of the bike)

1 - Fan - 15A
2 - ECU - 15A
3 - ABS Motor Relay - 30A
4 - ABS Solenoid Valve Relay - 20A
5 - ABS ECU - 10A
6 - Ignition - 10A

Fuse box 3 (towards front of bike)

1 - Turn Signal Relay - 10A
2 - Headlight - 10A
3 - Taillight - 10A
4 - Horn - 10A
5 - Headlight (HI) - 15A
6 - Headlight (LO) - 15A

Relay Box

1 - Fan
2 - Headlight
3 - Main
4 - Fuel Pump
5 - Starter Circuit



Kawasaki Concours Years 2010-2012

(SOURCE: schematic in back of Kawasaki Service Manual) Part No. 99924.1431-03

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For K-ACT ABS Equipped Models
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Relay Box

1 - Fan Relay
2 - Headlight Circuit Relay
3 - Unused
4 - Fuel Pump Relay
5 - Starter Circuit Relay

Fuse box 1 (towards front of bike)


1 - Turn Signal Relay Fuse - 10A
2 - Headlight Relay Fuse - 10A
3 - Taillight Fuse - 10A
4 - Horn Fuse - 10A
5 - Headlight Fuse (HI) - 15A
6 - Headlight Fuse (LO) - 15A

Fuse box 2 (towards the back of the bike)

1 - Fan Fuse - 15A
2 - ECU Fuse - 15A
3 - K-ACT ABS Motor Relay Fuse - 30A
4 - K-ACT ABS Solenoid Valve Relay Fuse - 20A
5 - Ignition Fuse - 15A

Fuse box 3 (midway)

1 - KIPASS Signal Relay Fuse - 10A
2 - Oil Control Solenoid Valve Fuse - 15A
3 - KIPASS Fuse - 10A
4 - Electric Windshield Fuse - 30A
5 - Accessory Fuse -  5A
6 - Grip Warmer Fuse - 10A


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Differrence from above found with NON K-ACT ABS Equipped Models
was fuse box 2
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Fuse box 2 (towards the back of the bike)

1 - Fan Fuse  - 15A
2 - ECU Fuse - 15A
3 - Ignition Fuse - 15A

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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2012, 09:21:42 AM »
Thanks!  :thumbs:
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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2012, 11:27:35 AM »
If the new horn is under 10A (2009) is it ok to just swap it out or does a relay need to be installed?  thanks

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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2012, 06:25:38 PM »
4 - Horn - 10A (for years from 2008 + ....)  is the OEM fuse so the wiring OEM is designed for that
and as such is adquate for the OEM circuit.

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Re: 130 db horn $10.38
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2012, 08:31:54 PM »
I decided to pick up a Big Boy which is the same as a Stebel Nautilus at Advance Auto and wired it in with a relay.  Much louder and kept the stocker wired with it.