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Offline blueoval

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Help with High Beams!
« on: April 07, 2012, 11:08:45 AM »
I did something while hooking up my Krista lights.  I was using a voltmeter to test for the high beam relay wire and I heard a "snap" like a blown fuse and now neither of my high beams work.  I searched for a high beam fuse, but cannot find it.  Is there a high beam fuse on the 2010 C14 and if so where would it be located?  thank you
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2012, 11:19:18 AM »
Look under the seat. There are two fuse blocks. One under the drivers spot and the right side of the bike and the other one under the passenger section and just forward of the tool box.
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2012, 12:01:02 PM »
I checked both of those fuse blocks and there were no blown fuses.
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2012, 03:55:15 PM »
I did something while hooking up my Krista lights.  I was using a voltmeter to test for the high beam relay wire and I heard a "snap" like a blown fuse and now neither of my high beams work.  I searched for a high beam fuse, but cannot find it.  Is there a high beam fuse on the 2010 C14 and if so where would it be located?  thank you

Here we are trying to GUESS what you did, we need a bit more info as to wht you probed, and how you probed it....and if you do not know what you were probing, WHY were you probing it in the manner you thought would be correct?

you could have actually shorted the filiments in the bulbs, and blown them....but again, I am simply guessing.
look a bit closer at the fuse boxes.......


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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2012, 07:38:21 PM »
Yeah I understand.  I found the high beam fuse and it was blown.  Should've looked a little closer into the issue before posting the question.  My apologies. 
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2012, 07:39:55 PM »
No worries!
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2012, 12:35:09 AM »
Yeah I understand.  I found the high beam fuse and it was blown.  Should've looked a little closer into the issue before posting the question.  My apologies.

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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2012, 05:05:17 AM »
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2012, 07:35:48 AM »
I was going to give a smarta** answer and say 'Don't you guys, have manuals?' but I decided to look and see where they were....    Nada or next to nothing is the answer.  The owner's manual has zilch and the service manual isn't much better.  Went out and took my seat off and looked.  There are three fuse boxes under the seat that are very clearly labeled.  You can't miss them.  This is for an 08/09.  Someone needs to update this thread with the 10+ models.  I'm sure there is some difference.

Fuse box 1 (midway)

1 - KIPASS Signal Relay - 10A
2 - Oxygen Sensor Heater - 15A
3 - KIPASS - 10A
4 - Electric Windshield - 30A
5 - Accessory - 10A

Fuse box 2 (towards the back of the bike)

1 - Fan - 15A
2 - ECU - 15A
3 - ABS Motor Relay - 30A
4 - ABS Solenoid Valve Relay - 20A
5 - ABS ECU - 10A
6 - Ignition - 10A

Fuse box 3 (towards front of bike)

1 - Turn Signal Relay - 10A
2 - Headlight - 10A
3 - Taillight - 10A
4 - Horn - 10A
5 - Headlight (HI) - 15A
6 - Headlight (LO) - 15A

Relay Box

1 - Fan
2 - Headlight
3 - Main
4 - Fuel Pump
5 - Starter Circuit
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2012, 08:09:10 AM »
The information is in the field service manual but as you say, it is lousy- spread out, not tabbed, etc.

The full fuse information is on the schematic pages in the service manual though. Each box is represented, named (or numbered), and the fuses inside labeled as to what they protect and their amp rating.

It would be nice if that info. was on a page in the manual directly but at least it is in there somewhere.

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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2012, 08:54:00 AM »
I was going to give a smarta** answer and say 'Don't you guys, have manuals?' but I decided to look and see where they were....    Nada or next to nothing is the answer.  The owner's manual has zilch and the service manual isn't much better.  Went out and took my seat off and looked.  There are three fuse boxes under the seat that are very clearly labeled.  You can't miss them.  This is for an 08/09.  Someone needs to update this thread with the 10+ models.  I'm sure there is some difference.

Fuse box 1 (midway)

1 - KIPASS Signal Relay - 10A
2 - Oxygen Sensor Heater - 15A
3 - KIPASS - 10A
4 - Electric Windshield - 30A
5 - Accessory - 10A

Fuse box 2 (towards the back of the bike)

1 - Fan - 15A
2 - ECU - 15A
3 - ABS Motor Relay - 30A
4 - ABS Solenoid Valve Relay - 20A
5 - ABS ECU - 10A
6 - Ignition - 10A

Fuse box 3 (towards front of bike)

1 - Turn Signal Relay - 10A
2 - Headlight - 10A
3 - Taillight - 10A
4 - Horn - 10A
5 - Headlight (HI) - 15A
6 - Headlight (LO) - 15A

Relay Box

1 - Fan
2 - Headlight
3 - Main
4 - Fuel Pump
5 - Starter Circuit
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2012, 09:03:55 AM »
They changed it on the 10+ models.....which is why I would like someone with a 10+ model Service Manual to look and see what they are on them and where they are located.
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2012, 09:37:45 AM »
They changed it on the 10+ models.....which is why I would like someone with a 10+ model Service Manual to look and see what they are on them and where they are located.

I just looked through both the owner and service manuals.  As you and Brian said, there is no listing or table at all.  Amazing.
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2012, 09:40:07 AM »
What, you didn't believe us? ;)
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2012, 11:02:14 AM »
Here we are trying to GUESS what you did, we need a bit more info as to wht you probed, and how you probed it....and if you do not know what you were probing, WHY were you probing it in the manner you thought would be correct?

you could have actually shorted the filiments in the bulbs, and blown them....but again, I am simply guessing.
look a bit closer at the fuse boxes.......


oh, if you play forum tag, and post in multiple forums, please be kind enough to return and tell us all what you found....... ::)


Could you explain how you could " short the filaments in the bulbs ,and blow them" ?

A bulb is designed to have voltage at one terminal , and ground at the other. I can't see how applying voltage or ground to either side would " blow the bulb".  It would simply not light.  ::)

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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2012, 11:46:08 AM »
They changed it on the 10+ models.....which is why I would like someone with a 10+ model Service Manual to look and see what they are on them and where they are located.

Page 16-123 in the 2011 service manual has a picture with the locations of the three fuse boxes.
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2012, 01:00:38 PM »
Thanks.  16-109 in the 08 service manual.  At least you got me looking in the right area.
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2012, 01:25:01 PM »
Page 16-123 in the 2011 service manual has a picture with the locations of the three fuse boxes.

Not in MY third edition April 16, 2011 service manual.  16-123 heading "relay box and accessory relay".  Section: diode circuit inspection, relay box internal circuit.  There is a picture on that page of the headlight relay.  And the previous page has the location of the relay box.  Nothing about fuses.

But on pages 16-124 and 125, there are pictures showing the location of the fuse boxes, with no information at all about what is in each.
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Re: Help with High Beams!
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2012, 05:50:42 PM »
Not in MY third edition April 16, 2011 service manual.  16-123 heading "relay box and accessory relay".  Section: diode circuit inspection, relay box internal circuit.  There is a picture on that page of the headlight relay.  And the previous page has the location of the relay box.  Nothing about fuses.

But on pages 16-124 and 125, there are pictures showing the location of the fuse boxes, with no information at all about what is in each.

My bad. My bike is a 2011. My manual is the second edition, July 16, 2010. It shows the location of the three fuse boxes. What's in each box is on the top of each one.
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