Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Gigantor on June 04, 2015, 05:57:09 AM
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I purchased the Laam seat, and I guess I am one of the few that is not happy with it. I sent
it back to Seth for rework, but it came back the same. I still slide forward and the seat does not
seem to have enough padding in the seating area.
The guys over at COG rave about the Kawsaki touring seat (see link below). I ordered the Kawasaki
seat ($418.48 shipped) and should receive it on June 17th. Many guys on the COG website share my sentiment concerning
Laam seat. Since I have two seats, I might give Laam another try, or send it to Baldwin
http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,58876.15.html (http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,58876.15.html)
(http://users.etown.edu/r/ruttersm/cog/touring1.jpg)
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Where did you order from? If you order from powersportswarehouse.com enter FRSP in the discount code and it gives you free shipping. Paid 401.21 for mine and it should arrive around 6/15.
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I ordered from Powersports also. Some site are charging over $500
I failed to enter the code
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Where did you order from? If you order from powersportswarehouse.com enter FRSP in the discount code and it gives you free shipping. Paid 401.21 for mine and it should arrive around 6/15.
I contacted customer service at powersports and they actually honored the promo code by refunding
the shipping charge
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I contacted customer service at powersports and they actually honored the promo code by refunding
the shipping charge
:banana :banana :banana :banana :banana
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subscribed...let us know how the Kawasaki seat does.
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let us know how the Kawasaki seat does.
I'd like to know how it differs from the stock 2015 one. They look identical in pictures.
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I'd like to know how it differs from the stock 2015 one. They look identical in pictures.
Touring Seat significantly improves rider and passenger comfort while riding for extended periods of time•Dual-density foam inserts with 10 mm low-rebound urethane layer provides optimal support
•Improved passenger ergonomics decrease forward movement during braking and provide an overall better riding position
•Cover construction features an industry first: low-heat gain material allowing for significant reduction in heat absorption after long-periods of sun exposure
•Direct replacement of stock seat
(http://content.kawasaki.com/content/uploads/accessories/999940500/999940500-130766108239814640.jpg?404=~/images/404.jpg)
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That one is different than the one I bought a while back. (The Kawasaki gel seat.)
(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt20/XJOK2PLAY/image-76.jpg) (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/XJOK2PLAY/media/image-76.jpg.html)
Looks nice!
One thing I love about mine is the material the cover's made out of, and how well it fits.
It sits about an inch lower than the stock seat, (which is great for me, since I'm a bit "inseam challenged"...) The gel pad helps a lot, too.
I like the two-tone cover yours has. Nice!
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That one is different than the one I bought a while back. (The Kawasaki gel seat.) One thing I love about mine is the material the cover's made out of, and how well it fits. It sits about an inch lower than the stock seat, (which is great for me, since I'm a bit "inseam challenged"...) The gel pad helps a lot, too.
I also needed a low seat, but had such a bad experience with gel seating on my previous bike, I got a Sargent World low instead. I found the gel would get blisteringly hot or bone numbing cold, depending on the season (but otherwise was nice).
I like the two-tone cover yours has. Nice!
I like it too. I believe the stock Gen 1 seats were also two-tone. For some reason they went mono on the Gen 2.
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I believe the stock Gen 1 seats were also two-tone. For some reason they went mono on the Gen 2.
Probably because it was a horribly ugly seat. It looked cheap. :doublepuke: The Touring seat looks great in those pictures.
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Problem with stitched seat covers is they tend to allow water inside with the foam.
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Looks like mine is on the way, got a shipment notification from FedEx via email today.
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I also needed a low seat, but had such a bad experience with gel seating on my previous bike, I got a Sargent World low instead. I found the gel would get blisteringly hot or bone numbing cold, depending on the season (but otherwise was nice).
Never had that experience with this one. Lucky, I guess. It works for me.
I had a Sargent low version before I got this one. Liked the looks, hated how hard it was.
Plus, the guy that sold it to me lied about it... told me it was a standard version, but when I got it, it was obvious that it wasn't a standard. 1) Too thin, & 2) it had a tag on the bottom that said "Low Version". Yes, I was disappointed. I tried to make the best of it for a while, but hated it.
I also bought a used Russell DL. That was a nice seat, but too high for my shorter inseam.
I was fortunate to sell it w/o taking a loss on it. Broke even.
I've taken many long trips on this one where I've ridden 10+ hours a day, everyday for 5+ days.
No problems. For $275 used, I feel very fortunate!
I like the looks of yours, though. Very nice!
I think most quality seat makers place a plastic liner underneath the cover for a moisture barrier, don't they? I would think any moisture that might pass through the stitching would wick out, and not get to the foam...
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YOU WILL LOVE THIS SEAT! I bought mine from a parts man friend at a stealership for $400. In case I didn;t like it I could hand it back.
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/bikepeace.gif)
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Never had that experience with this one. Lucky, I guess. It works for me.
I want to clarify that I have not had any experience with the Kawasaki gel seat- it was a different gel seat on a different bike... just speaking to what I figured was the "gel experience."
I had a Sargent low version before I got this one. Liked the looks, hated how hard it was.
Being low, it has less foam, so the foam that is there has to be more firm to support the weight. I agree it is a bit on the hard side. Haven't tried the non-low version to compare (since I HAD to get the low version), but I would guess it has more foam and is therefore less hard.
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YOU WILL LOVE THIS SEAT! I bought mine from a parts man friend at a stealership for $400. In case I didn;t like it I could hand it back.
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/bikepeace.gif)
Steve, are you still using your Airhawk with this seat?
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Steve, are you still using your Airhawk with this seat?
Hi! Not yet, haven't been far. But on my 800-1100 day trips I plan too.
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I just completed a 700 mile trip to Vermont. I love the Kawasaki touring seat. My butt never got sore and the seat also complements the bike suspension if that makes sense.
I have been riding for 30 years, this seat lives up to the hype
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I just completed a 700 mile trip to Vermont. I love the Kawasaki touring seat. My butt never got sore and the seat also complements the bike suspension if that makes sense.
I have been riding for 30 years, this seat lives up to the hype
+1
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Stevewfl
You were spot on about this seat! When I woke up this moring, my lower back was not sore, or any indication I was riding all weekend.
Makes for a more enjoyable ride.
Thanks again for the tip
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That one is different than the one I bought a while back. (The Kawasaki gel seat.)
(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt20/XJOK2PLAY/image-76.jpg) (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/XJOK2PLAY/media/image-76.jpg.html)
Looks nice!
One thing I love about mine is the material the cover's made out of, and how well it fits.
It sits about an inch lower than the stock seat, (which is great for me, since I'm a bit "inseam challenged"...) The gel pad helps a lot, too.
I like the two-tone cover yours has. Nice!
I have this same seat. It's VERY firm. I like the seat while my wife hates it.
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So the touring seat is different than the gel seat?
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So the touring seat is different than the gel seat?
Night and day
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Night and day
My mom always said that a person needs two of everything. One for day and one for night. My wife disagrees... ;)
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As does mine.
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+1 Night and Day
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A basic question. Does the OEM Kawa Touring Seat fit a 2012 Connie? I don't believe they have changed the mounting structure or pan bottom for years? I bought a new 2013 (after having a 2008) in 2014 but 200 miles is all I can do with the stock seat. Help
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A basic question. Does the OEM Kawa Touring Seat fit a 2012 Connie? I don't believe they have changed the mounting structure or pan bottom for years? I bought a new 2013 (after having a 2008) in 2014 but 200 miles is all I can do with the stock seat. Help
All the C14 seats are interchangeable.
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A basic question. Does the OEM Kawa Touring Seat fit a 2012 Connie? I don't believe they have changed the mounting structure or pan bottom for years? I bought a new 2013 (after having a 2008) in 2014 but 200 miles is all I can do with the stock seat. Help
I have one on my 2012.
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A basic question. Does the OEM Kawa Touring Seat fit a 2012 Connie? I don't believe they have changed the mounting structure or pan bottom for years? I bought a new 2013 (after having a 2008) in 2014 but 200 miles is all I can do with the stock seat. Help
Here's some help: http://laamseats.com/ (http://laamseats.com/)
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I found the L seat c/s not customer focused/friendly. I just bought the Kawa Touring seat instead. I still take the corners with speed but just need a little more butt support for the long hauls. Tx. I had 18 BMWs over my 55 years of motorcycling and had 15 Bill Mayer/Long day saddle/rick mayer/bill mayor jr. seats. Great for touring very long distances >250,000 miles for me. But I have returned to the thrill of performance in motorcycles and cars (race Porsche) and hanging out on curve still races my aging heart. I will live until I die!!! Other bikes: Whizzer motorbike, Cushman scooter 1957, Honda 50 sport 1961, Honda 90 trail, Honda Elsinore 250 (lived there), Kawa 650 KX (for Baha 1000-), Yama 500 IT, Duc 996, 6 R100RTs, 1 R100S, 5 R100RSs, R75, R80, 2 K1200 GTs, 1 HD custom soft tail, 2004 HD Road King, Kawa C14 2008, now 2012 (new in late 2014). I have forgotten several dirt bikes used in So. Calif. Riverside general area . Malcolm Smith was a neighbor in 1960.
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I found the L seat c/s not customer focused/friendly. I just bought the Kawa Touring seat instead. I still take the corners with speed but just need a little more butt support for the long hauls. Tx. I had 18 BMWs over my 55 years of motorcycling and had 15 Bill Mayer/Long day saddle/rick mayer/bill mayor jr. seats. Great for touring very long distances >250,000 miles for me. But I have returned to the thrill of performance in motorcycles and cars (race Porsche) and hanging out on curve still races my aging heart. I will live until I die!!! Other bikes: Whizzer motorbike, Cushman scooter 1957, Honda 50 sport 1961, Honda 90 trail, Honda Elsinore 250 (lived there), Kawa 650 KX (for Baha 1000-), Yama 500 IT, Duc 996, 6 R100RTs, 1 R100S, 5 R100RSs, R75, R80, 2 K1200 GTs, 1 HD custom soft tail, 2004 HD Road King, Kawa C14 2008, now 2012 (new in late 2014). I have forgotten several dirt bikes used in So. Calif. Riverside general area . Malcolm Smith was a neighbor in 1960.
Corners are a priority for me too, not a goldwing style comfort seat. I'm so pleased with my kawasaki touring seat for the combined comfort/performance ;D
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I just got the Kawa Touring seat and completed a 6 hr. trial run. It is slightly more butt sparing than the stock seat on by 2012 Connie 1400. I like the non-heat absorbing material. Is it worth $400 more than the stock. Not quite sure. I am 6'2" 200# 35 " sleeves, stock bars and seemed to slide a little towards the tank. Perhaps Murph's risers will cure that with this seat with a slightly more upright sitting position. The rear portion is clearly more comfortable for the passenger than the stock seat.
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from the 'What did you do to your Concours today?' thread.
I just ordered a new Kawasaki touring seat.
https://www.kawasaki.com/accessories/item/touring-seat/999940500 (https://www.kawasaki.com/accessories/item/touring-seat/999940500)
My wife won't ride with me anymore cuz she can't get comfortable on either the stock seat or the Kaw low gel seat. She keep sliding forward and it hurts her back. I've heard a lot of good things about the 'new' touring seat so we'll give that a try and see what's what.
My new seat was delivered yesterday. It was raining yesterday (today too) so I wasn't able to take 'er for a spin.
The seat is very well made and looks great. I installed it with no issues. I sat on the bike in my garage and the seat feels good. It's at least an inch taller, maybe more, than the Kaw low gel seat that I had on it. That's not good for me since I'm 5'5" but I'll adapt.
The weather cleared yesterday afternoon so I was able to get out for a ride and try out the new seat with my wife.
Goof news! She loves it! "100% better than either of my other seats" she said.
We rode for two hours or so and no pain for either of us. The seat soaks up the jarring from bumps in the road that the old seats transferred to our backs and neither one of us slid at all. On both of my other seats I was always having to adjust my position because of sliding towards the tank, no longer. It's not just the material that the cover is made from either. The geometry of the seats is different than the others.
The only negatives for me is that the seat is taller. Two issues with that. The first is that since I'm 5'5" I'm tip toeing at stops. The second is since I'm sitting higher that means that I'm leaning forward a bit more and that puts more pressure on my hands and arms. Other than that I'm happy and I'll deal with those issues.
I almost forgot to mention...
I did a lot of shopping for this seat, both online and local dealerships. No one would come down from the MSRP of $535. Not even the dealer where I bought my bike back in 2009 (they said that normally they would offer a discount to former customers but since it's been so long since I bought anything from them they couldn't do it. I told him that it's going to be a long time before I buy anything from them in the future too). No local dealers had the seat in stock either. Amazon has it but at $535.
I ended up buying it from Partzilla for $414 with free shipping.
https://www.partzilla.com/product/kawasaki/99994-0500 (https://www.partzilla.com/product/kawasaki/99994-0500)
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I did a lot of shopping for this seat, both online and local dealerships. No one would come down from the MSRP of $535. Not even the dealer where I bought my bike back in 2009 (they said that normally they would offer a discount to former customers but since it's been so long since I bought anything from them they couldn't do it. I told him that it's going to be a long time before I buy anything from them in the future too). No local dealers had the seat in stock either. Amazon has it but at $535.
I ended up buying it from Partzilla for $414 with free shipping.
https://www.partzilla.com/product/kawasaki/99994-0500 (https://www.partzilla.com/product/kawasaki/99994-0500)
Good comeback. They need to hear that. I have always bought at a dealer if I could, and if it made sense, but the ones I deal with competed well with online retailers. I will pay more through a dealer for the service, if it exists.
I love the touring seat. It puts me in a better position compared to other seats I've tried, and the foam gives the right amount of support, and give.
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Being mentally challenged I need some clarification. I have been looking for a replacement for the stock seat on my '08. The obvious reason is that it is a horrible brick that forces me to get intimate with the fuel tank in ways I would rather not describe.
I have read in this post that the Kawasaki Touring Seat is interchangeable with any year of the GTR1400. So I should be able to get one from Partzilla, Kawasaki, or whomever and it will fit.
Remember, I'm mentally challenged. It must have been all those years of breathing recirculated gaseous human emissions while deployed. Or, I'm just naturally dim. Either way. :-X
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Being mentally challenged I need some clarification. I have been looking for a replacement for the stock seat on my '08. The obvious reason is that it is a horrible brick that forces me to get intimate with the fuel tank in ways I would rather not describe.
I have read in this post that the Kawasaki Touring Seat is interchangeable with any year of the GTR1400. So I should be able to get one from Partzilla, Kawasaki, or whomever and it will fit.
Remember, I'm mentally challenged. It must have been all those years of breathing recirculated gaseous human emissions while deployed. Or, I'm just naturally dim. Either way. :-X
I can be a bit mentally challenged too at times...
You're asking if the Kaw Touring seat will fit on your 2008 C14 correct? Did you happen to notice what model year bike I ride per my signature? ;)
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Being mentally challenged I need some clarification. I have been looking for a replacement for the stock seat on my '08. The obvious reason is that it is a horrible brick that forces me to get intimate with the fuel tank in ways I would rather not describe.
I have read in this post that the Kawasaki Touring Seat is interchangeable with any year of the GTR1400. So I should be able to get one from Partzilla, Kawasaki, or whomever and it will fit.
Remember, I'm mentally challenged. It must have been all those years of breathing recirculated gaseous human emissions while deployed. Or, I'm just naturally dim. Either way. :-X
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There is one of these seats for sale on another forum!
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I can be a bit mentally challenged too at times...
You're asking if the Kaw Touring seat will fit on your 2008 C14 correct? Did you happen to notice what model year bike I ride per my signature? ;)
I did notice just now. About that mentally challenged bit... I stand by that statement.
There is one of these seats for sale on another forum!
I'll check it out. Thx!
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Had a Laam seat on my C14, and my observations were the same as the OP. Constantly sliding forward out of the pocket, and the material was either too hard or too thinly padded. I ordered a touring seat from my dealer for $482.00, and I am much happier with it. Nothing at all against Seth, he makes a great seat, and his seat was much more comfortable than the stock seat, but it fell short of what I needed.
No more sliding forward, and the seat is quite comfortable.
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Damn, I wish I could use it. But I can't use anything higher than the Sargent low.
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Partzilla. $413 with free shipping built into the price. Now, does anyone need a stock seat? I know a guy.
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I have one complain about the Kaw touring seat. I'm not sure if mine is defective or if this is the way they come from Kawasaki.
In both of the seating areas it seems that the outside cover doesn't stick to the pad (or whatever is directly under the cover). It's like they needed to spray some stickum on the pad(s) before the installation of the cover and this wasn't done. So if you press your hand down on the cover there's a pocket of air that gets forced out on both the driver's and the passenger's seating area. It's not a big deal but it just doesn't seem right and with this pocket or air I'm concerned that the seat could rip more easily. Once you sit on it the air pocket goes away of course.
You guys that have this seat, is yours like that?
I could take some pics if you don't get what I'm asking?
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Does everyone have the loose skin issue? I am really close to ordering one of these. Currently, I have a Rick Mayer's on there; but the leather makes the tank-slide issue horrid. Even more, I am noticing that the seat mod did something to the rigidity of the seat, making it unlatch itself during rides.
So, how is the construction of the OEM Touring saddle? How well does it cure tank slide?
Snype
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Does everyone have the loose skin issue? I am really close to ordering one of these. Currently, I have a Rick Mayer's on there; but the leather makes the tank-slide issue horrid. Even more, I am noticing that the seat mod did something to the rigidity of the seat, making it unlatch itself during rides.
So, how is the construction of the OEM Touring saddle? How well does it cure tank slide?
Snype
I think it is fantastic. I do not slide forward and it is very comfortable. The "loose skin" is by design I am sure. If if it is glued to the foam, the seat will feel more hard. Sargent makes their seats this way too, though the Sargent seat top is not as puffy. It is a non-issue. I find the seat also does not heat up in the sun as much as any other seat I have used.
I have stopped using the AirHawk with this seat. It has been very comfortable for me without it. I have used it on a number of 800+ mile days so far and it has been great.
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Please understand that I am offering my opinion as a rider. I'm not an expert at much, if anything. I am not happy with the Kawasaki Touring Seat. In my opinion it is shaped exactly the same as stock with very little difference in foam placement. It still slopes forward. The only real difference is the texture of the covering which has more friction. That's it.
The truth is I think I have been searching for a solution that does not exist because I have ridden on Big Boy saddles on a different style of motorcycle for many years. The riding position on a cruiser is different and there can be no turning a Connie into a cruiser. Just isn't going to happen.
Please refer to the first sentence if I touched a nerve. There is no need to debunk an opinion. Thx.
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Does everyone have the loose skin issue? I am really close to ordering one of these. Currently, I have a Rick Mayer's on there; but the leather makes the tank-slide issue horrid. Even more, I am noticing that the seat mod did something to the rigidity of the seat, making it unlatch itself during rides.
So, how is the construction of the OEM Touring saddle? How well does it cure tank slide?
Snype
The texture of the seat does cure tank slide for the driver and the passenger. I bought this seat for one reason only, so that my wife would be more comfortable. For that it works. For solo rides I still prefer the Kaw low gel seat. When I'm riding the twisties (such as they are in Illinois) I like to move around on the seat. The texture on the 'new' Kaw touring seat makes that more difficult.
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The texture of the seat does cure tank slide for the driver and the passenger. I bought this seat for one reason only, so that my wife would be more comfortable. For that it works. For solo rides I still prefer the Kaw low gel seat. When I'm riding the twisties (such as they are in Illinois) I like to move around on the seat. The texture on the 'new' Kaw touring seat makes that more difficult.
I seem to have no real difficulty sliding on the seat for the twisties. We have plenty here in Western Pennsylvania and West Virginia. It may be my choice of riding pants though. I wear AGV Teluride pants.
Though the material does offer better "stickiness," I think a big factor in why I do not slide forward on it is that the foam does not break down as much as you ride, so the front doesn't lower as much through compression.
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Please understand that I am offering my opinion as a rider. I'm not an expert at much, if anything. I am not happy with the Kawasaki Touring Seat. In my opinion it is shaped exactly the same as stock with very little difference in foam placement. It still slopes forward. The only real difference is the texture of the covering which has more friction. That's it.
The truth is I think I have been searching for a solution that does not exist because I have ridden on Big Boy saddles on a different style of motorcycle for many years. The riding position on a cruiser is different and there can be no turning a Connie into a cruiser. Just isn't going to happen.
Howdy Tree. I feel your pain. I have spent a lot to get my connie to be more of a cruiser. It costs a bunch but can be done. Day long seat, lowering links and 10" high adjustable bars from Helibars- plus a barndoor shield from jurock.. oh yeah, canyon cages with harley highway pegs.. im sitting tall and pretty.. well not too pretty, but really straight... as much as i like the DL seat, Im gonna try the Kawi touring, cuz i try everything, looking for perfect... cant wait to give my report.
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I'll add 2 more cents-I was happy with the stock seat when I first got my bike (about 5 months ago), along with Murphs's lowered pegs. I commute on my bike 15 miles one way. All was good until the last month or so, noticed the butt burn was starting. With the mostly positive reviews, I ordered the Kawasaki touring seat from Partzilla-best price, fast shipping.
For comparison, I have 36" inseam and 36" sleeve length (6'2")
I put the new touring seat on a few days ago and found it very comfortable. It's like comparing a foam rubber seat to a memory foam seat. I don't feel the slide forward, but I sit at the very rear of the driver seat.
Feels like a keeper!
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After several hundred miles on the touring seat i will say that it is far superior than the stock for both myself and wife. Also better than the saddleman and corbin seat we tried previously. But after a couple hours or so it started to cause a little butt fatigue. Im sure it would get better the more you get used to it. We both loved how it seems to absorb bumps better than any seat we have been on. Ultimately we decided to keep the Russell day long.
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Ok... I got one. I have to say I like it a lot. It's not a perfect seat by any means; however, it almost completely took away tank slide, which was my biggest issue. It's a little wide at the front, giving me a little pinch in the legs when I am standing still; they could have shaped it better. Frankly, the textured seat makes a massive different.
I have not take it longer than 5 hours; but it was great for that.
Thanks for the info guys
Snype
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Can anyone compare it to a regular Sargent seat?
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Ok, ??? Where is the lowest price for this touring seat?
Partszilla.........$434.48
powersportswarehouse.com............wont accept the coupon code stated here......$534.95+shipping($16.38)= $551.33 !
Does anyone know where I can purchase it cheaper? Thank you, Mr Matt
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https://www.cmsnl.com/search/?section=all&q=999941575&tab=
Sells it with free shipping, for 367 euros, which today is $432.
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Why didn't/ hasn't Kawasaki put "The Touring Seat" on their Touring Bike? Even the H2 SX has stiff foam! I've tried 5 different seats on my C14 & haven't found the comfortable seat yet. Gonna try inserting a Gel Pad in mine.
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Why didn't/ hasn't Kawasaki put "The Touring Seat" on their Touring Bike? Even the H2 SX has stiff foam! I've tried 5 different seats on my C14 & haven't found the comfortable seat yet. Gonna try inserting a Gel Pad in mine.
I wouldn't recommend that. I did that on my ZRX and regretted it. It would get so hot, especially any time in the sun, that sitting on it was painful. And so cold for so long in the winter. And it would get much harder when cold. Plus it was less comfortable, overall. Perhaps it was just the brand of gel pad I used, perhaps my installation method.
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I wouldn't recommend that. I did that on my ZRX and regretted it. It would get so hot, especially any time in the sun, that sitting on it was painful. And so cold for so long in the winter. And it would get much harder when cold. Plus it was less comfortable, overall. Perhaps it was just the brand of gel pad I used, perhaps my installation method.
Thanks, that is Valuable information!!
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I have to agree completely with Tree's comment from 2018:
Please understand that I am offering my opinion as a rider. I'm not an expert at much, if anything. I am not happy with the Kawasaki Touring Seat. In my opinion it is shaped exactly the same as stock with very little difference in foam placement. It still slopes forward. The only real difference is the texture of the covering which has more friction. That's it.
I tried every option to make my stock 2010 seat work - butt pads, air hawk, etc. Seat was good for 1 hour of riding. Was able to get it to 5-6 hours with Alaska Leather butt pads and air hawk but still sore at the end of the day. Bought the Kawasaki Touring seat (not gel seat) after positive reviews in this forum and other forum, but it was little different. Primary problem was that it was still sloped forward and not all that comfy. Same pressure points. Finally did what I should have done on day one - sent my seat to Russell Day Long. I can ride all day long with the RDL seat. Highly recommended.
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I agree with how irritating the sloping forward is. I have short legs and had to use a Sargent World Low seat. There is little padding. The issue is that the pan on all these seats is the same- designed with a forward slope. So the Sargent is the same (at least the low version is). You can correct that, but only by adding more padding on the FRONT to make it more flat/neutral. In my case, I can't add ANY foam because it would add height. So I am kinda stuck. Thankfully, most of my rides are under 2 hours. This weekend when it was almost 3, I was quite ready to be far away from that seat for days.
Sloping forward causes your tissues to be under stress, just a simple fact. Seems especially true for me on the undersides of my legs, where they sit on the seat (more so than my butt). One thing that can help is if you have some forward pegs, because then there is some natural push-back to the body position. I keep forgetting I have those pegs and could have used them this weekend. Duh.