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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: ZG on May 14, 2011, 11:25:05 AM

Title: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on May 14, 2011, 11:25:05 AM
I'll get this thread going so that it's available by search later in time, even though this is about the time of year that folks start pulling these off, but in the winter man are they nice...  :hail:
 
There's a couple options out there... I'll let others post up what they use.
 
I went with the ProjektD ones and was very pleased, they really take the wind off your hands and keep them warmer in the winter months.  :thumbs:
 
http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=178 (http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=178)
 
Here's some pics of mine.
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00123-20110212-1229.jpg)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00127-20110212-1343.jpg)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00126-20110212-1341.jpg)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00128-20110212-1404.jpg)
 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: mikeboileau on May 14, 2011, 11:44:49 AM
Do they work with risers?  Wind flow might be off.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on May 14, 2011, 11:50:09 AM
Do they work with risers?  Wind flow might be off.


Yep, I've got the 2" Helibar risers and they work great!
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/heli.jpg)
 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: mikeboileau on May 14, 2011, 11:51:00 AM

Yep, I've got the 2" Helibar risers and they work great!

Your mirrors are higher than the 08 right?
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on May 14, 2011, 11:52:17 AM
Your mirrors are higher than the 08 right?


I have an 09, same mirror height as 08...
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: mikeboileau on May 14, 2011, 11:57:31 AM

Yep, I've got the 2" Helibar risers and they work great!
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/heli.jpg)

Wow, love the power outlet in the riser!

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on May 14, 2011, 12:34:32 PM
Wow, love the power outlet in the riser!

 :thumbs:

Thanks Mike, go Pack!
 
Here's a link to the power outlet thread...
http://zggtr.org/index.php?topic=311.0 (http://zggtr.org/index.php?topic=311.0)
 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Pynikal on May 14, 2011, 01:49:03 PM
i think they offer that as an option when you buy them.  one thing that i WILL get with my risers.
with risers will my '11 need these or not.  it has good hand protection as it is now but after riders i am not sure.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Peter2011C14 on May 14, 2011, 04:01:08 PM
Your mirrors are higher than the 08 right?

I have a 2011 and was thinking that if the mirrors were a bit higher, the air would be deflected from the hand area, AND you would see less of the saddlebags!

Peter
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: B.D.F. on May 14, 2011, 04:53:02 PM
I started off with a set of Metalbenders, which are very similar to the ones you have. They were excellent hand guards but they were just a tad too big when used with a Calsci windshield so I bought a set of Baker Hand Wings. The hand wings are just slightly less effective in the winter but they have the great advantage that they can be turned about 90 degrees and have outside air diverted to the rider. I find they are easily worth 15 F and maybe 20 F in comfort when it is hot out. I ended up leaving the Bakers on all year and just rotate them as necessary.

Brian



I'll get this thread going so that it's available by search later in time, even though this is about the time of year that folks start pulling these off, but in the winter man are they nice...  :hail:
 
There's a couple options out there... I'll let others post up what they use.
 
I went with the ProjektD ones and was very pleased, they really take the wind off your hands and keep them warmer in the winter months.  :thumbs:
 
<snipped photos>

Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Reddogger on May 14, 2011, 10:19:39 PM
Metalbenders have worked great for me. I heard he quit building them some time back but I would highly reccomend them if a set becomes available.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on May 15, 2011, 07:09:46 AM
I have the Motax deflectors and just installed the CalSci Shorty. They look great together. Of course the deflectors will be coming off soon.

I haven't tried em both out together yet but the deflectors work great.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: stevewfl on May 15, 2011, 10:44:34 PM
on the '10 i don't have trouble. slight breeze on the hands but no wind or bug blasts
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Pynikal on May 16, 2011, 06:37:20 AM
on the '10 i don't have trouble. slight breeze on the hands but no wind or bug blasts


are you using risers or not?  just wondering. thanks.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: stevewfl on May 16, 2011, 07:33:45 AM

are you using risers or not?  just wondering. thanks.

no risers- of course risers will put our hands in the wrong position for the '10 mirrors.  Kawi addressed mirror position in regards to complaints about the '08-09, and the 10's are spot-on for both site over the bags and wind position
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Bob on May 16, 2011, 08:16:04 AM
Metalbenders have worked great for me. I heard he quit building them some time back but I would highly reccomend them if a set becomes available.

The following is just my opinion about the Baker hand wings and the Metalbender air deflectors (not made anymore).

+1 excellent product. I removed the Bakers for the Metalbenders. I personally found the Metalbender deflectors to be far superior to the Bakers in every aspect except being able to open them in the heat. But they always loosened every time I moved them which required tightening the single mounting screw each time I moved it. IMO, the bakers are a poor design. A two screw bracket would probably fix most of the Baker's down sides. I removed the wings in the summer also, which negated any of the more positive aspects of the Baker's for myself. Now I'm not saying that the Bakers are bad. Only that the Metalbender deflectors were IMO, far superior for strength, design and coverage in the cold and rain. Too bad Metalbender stopped making his wings. But the basic design is very good! Maybe someone will take up making a similar product in the future!

MetalBender hand wind deflectors:

(http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/43579/2789769630103513287S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2789769630103513287VFcHYO)

(http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/46251/2876773520103513287S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2876773520103513287amcvpU)

(http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/46059/2669764660103513287S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2669764660103513287QiZPFq)

(http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/44467/2624966230103513287S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2624966230103513287qtOKln)

(http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/15446/2053707600103513287S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2053707600103513287XefFvj)



Now for comparison, the Baker air wings:

(http://inlinethumb58.webshots.com/697/2149178670103513287S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2149178670103513287tdSfhp)

(http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/47707/2970437350103513287S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2970437350103513287JtSDXy)

(http://inlinethumb63.webshots.com/25214/2321148900103513287S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2321148900103513287saFyae)


(http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/43263/2224695240103513287S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2224695240103513287PBpvKS)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on May 16, 2011, 09:34:56 AM
on the '10 i don't have trouble. slight breeze on the hands but no wind or bug blasts


Those really cold Florida mornings eh Steve...  ???
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: crashdb on May 16, 2011, 09:46:50 AM
I have a 2010 with the Heli-Bar risers.  I also use the Cal-Sci XL screen in the winter.  I can tell you that some sort of wings are a necessity with this set-up.  With the screen all the way up, there is a ridiculous amount of air going straight to my hands--hand warmers or not.  I have the Motax deflectors, but haven't used them yet.  I didn't get them until the weather got warmer and I've also been waiting to get the brackets back from the powdercoater. 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on May 16, 2011, 09:56:40 AM
Here's some pics with the Motax air deflectors and my new CalSci shield.

Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on May 20, 2011, 04:37:44 PM
Well, summer is finally coming into the Pac NW, today I removed my air wings and wore my summer gloves!  :thumbs:
 8)   ;D
 
I love these wings but I'm hoping I don't have to put them back on for another 6 months if you know what I mean...  ;)   
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: mikeboileau on May 20, 2011, 06:59:32 PM
Why don't they integrate those in the windscreens?
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on May 20, 2011, 07:19:45 PM
Why don't they integrate those in the windscreens?


I' don't think I'd like that, I like them on in the colder months and off in the warmer ones...
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: mikeboileau on May 20, 2011, 07:21:08 PM

I' don't think I'd like that, I like them on in the colder months and off in the warmer ones...

You must not live where I live..... ;D
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on May 20, 2011, 07:24:59 PM
You must not live where I live..... ;D


I've been to Madison before in the summer and it was quite nice...  8)


I liked how everything was deep-fried, until I came home and had to try and burn it all back off...  ;)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: mikeboileau on May 20, 2011, 07:27:04 PM
Deep fried is berry berry good........
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: riverbound51 on May 20, 2011, 11:20:18 PM
I think they look pretty good.  Never thought about taking them off in summer. 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on May 20, 2011, 11:49:51 PM
I think they look pretty good.  Never thought about taking them off in summer.


The point of having them in the cooler temps is to keep the wind chill off your hands, but in warmer temps the extra breeze is nice...  8)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on May 21, 2011, 06:32:43 AM
Well, summer is finally coming into the Pac NW, today I removed my air wings and wore my summer gloves!  :thumbs:
 8)   ;D
 
I love these wings but I'm hoping I don't have to put them back on for another 6 months if you know what I mean...  ;)

I've been wearing my summer gloves for a couple of weeks now. Gonna take my air deflectors off today. I do know what you mean about the 6 months!
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on May 23, 2011, 05:30:08 AM
We went for a nice long ride yesterday and we were in an unfamiliar area checking out some twisties. That got me to thinking when I got home about getting a mount of some kind for my GPS. I just removed my air deflectors and I was looking at the mounting brackets from those. I'm gonna put together a mount for my GPS using the mounting bracket from one of the air deflectors and piece of plexy. The suction cup mount from my Garmin sticks very nicely to the plexy of the Motax and it's in a nice location for viewing the screen. I just need to make it a lil more secure.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 04, 2011, 07:06:33 AM
I just put my ProjektD hand wings on last night and this morning on the way to work it felt great.  I was wearing my summer gloves with the grip heater on 40% and my hands were toasty at 39 F.  Yesterday I had to have the heater turned to 75% for the same effect, I call that an inprovement.  I could feel the wind hitting my arm around the crook of my elbow so they perform as advertised even with Murph's risers.  I blacked out the hardware and it looks purty darn good IMO.  I will post a couple pics this evening.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on October 04, 2011, 08:32:09 AM
I just put my ProjektD hand wings on last night and this morning on the way to work it felt great.  I was wearing my summer gloves with the grip heater on 40% and my hands were toasty at 39 F.  Yesterday I had to have the heater turned to 75% for the same effect, I call that an inprovement.  I could feel the wind hitting my arm around the crook of my elbow so they perform as advertised even with Murph's risers.  I blacked out the hardware and it looks purty darn good IMO.  I will post a couple pics this evening.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on October 04, 2011, 10:16:54 AM
:thumbs:

+1...
 
Congrats Jeremy!
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: maxtog on October 04, 2011, 04:59:00 PM
I have Helibar risers and there is a LOT of air on my hands.  I never noticed it yet, since my bike is new and has only seen mostly warm weather.  But it suddenly got cold, and now I know :)  This is my summary of what I saw:

Project D:  It would appear the Projecktd is ONLY for the older 2008/2009 model, and I assume not compatible with the higher mirrors of the 2010/2011/2012.  No mention of easy removability.  Looks like mirror-folding compatible.

Metalbender:  Not made.  And even so, they would be useless to me because they would interfere with folding the mirrors, which is REQUIRED for the CycleShell.

Baker:  (CON14HW?? ) No tech or other info on page, no year compatibility info.  No mention of easy removability.

Motax:  French- no English.  No mention of easy removability.  Looks like they will not interfere with folding the mirrors.  Silver hardware instead of black.  Not USA.

Flathead: Good price, no mirror interference, 2010+, USA... but without a support bracket plus three instead of two holes (not quite what I am looking for).

Any other options out there??    (updated for corrections 09-05 9pm)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: B.D.F. on October 04, 2011, 05:28:52 PM
I have both Metalbender's and Baker's hand wings: The Metalbender's block air better but the Baker's fold inward to push air into the cockpit in the summer. I have not reinstalled Metalbender's since getting the Baker type. The Baker type goes on with one fairing screw, at least on the '08 and '09s. Not sure what is available for the 2010's and later but if available, I would go with Baker's.

Brian

I have Helibar risers and there is a LOT of air on my hands.  I never noticed it yet, since my bike is new and has only seen mostly warm weather.  But it suddenly got cold, and now I know :)  This is my summary of what I saw:

Project D:  It would appear the Projecktd is ONLY for the older 2008/2009 model, and I assume not compatible with the higher mirrors of the 2010/2011/2012.  No mention of easy removability.  Looks like mirror-folding compatible.

Metalbender:  Not made.  And even so, they would be useless to me because they would interfere with folding the mirrors, which is REQUIRED for the CycleShell.

Baker:  (CON14HW?? ) No tech or other info on page, no year compatibility info.  No mention of easy removability.

Motex:  Can't even find site.  No year compatibility info can be found.  No mention of easy removability.  Looks like they will not interfere with folding the mirrors.  Not USA.

Not looking so good.  Any other options out there??
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on October 04, 2011, 07:04:00 PM
I'll get this thread going so that it's available by search later in time, even though this is about the time of year that folks start pulling these off, but in the winter man are they nice...  :hail:
 
There's a couple options out there... I'll let others post up what they use.
 
I went with the ProjektD ones and was very pleased, they really take the wind off your hands and keep them warmer in the winter months.  :thumbs:
 
http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=178 (http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=178)
 
Here's some pics of mine.
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00123-20110212-1229.jpg)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00127-20110212-1343.jpg)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00126-20110212-1341.jpg)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00128-20110212-1404.jpg)

Thanks Jeremy for bringing this thread back to life!  :chugbeer:
 
Here's some updated pics of my ProjektD ones that I got for last winter year, I just painted the hardware black before remounting them the other day for this winter, I think they look much better now...  8)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00607-20110929-1544.jpg)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00610-20110930-0753.jpg)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00608-20110930-0752.jpg)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00611-20110930-0754.jpg)
 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 04, 2011, 07:13:25 PM
Thanks for saving me from having to post pics.  Mine turned out just like your's, ZG.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on October 04, 2011, 09:42:39 PM
Thanks for saving me from having to post pics.  Mine turned out just like your's, ZG.

All good brutha!  :chugbeer:
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on October 05, 2011, 04:53:23 AM

Motex:  Can't even find site.  No year compatibility info can be found.  No mention of easy removability.  Looks like they will not interfere with folding the mirrors.  Not USA.


First off, it's MOTAX, that might help you find their site. They make models for both the '08/'09s and the '10/'11/'12s, or at least they did. The mirrors on my '08 fold up just fine with the air deflectors installed. As for removing them easily? 4 screws and they're off/on.

'08/'09s  http://www.motax.fr/sommaire_Kawasaki/accessoires_1400_GTR/1400_GTR_07_09_deflecteurs_/1400_gtr_07_09_deflecteurs_.html (http://www.motax.fr/sommaire_Kawasaki/accessoires_1400_GTR/1400_GTR_07_09_deflecteurs_/1400_gtr_07_09_deflecteurs_.html)

'10/'11/'12s  http://www.motax.fr/sommaire_Kawasaki/accessoires_1400_GTR/1400_GTR_10_11__deflecteurs/1400_gtr_10_11__deflecteurs.html (http://www.motax.fr/sommaire_Kawasaki/accessoires_1400_GTR/1400_GTR_10_11__deflecteurs/1400_gtr_10_11__deflecteurs.html)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 05, 2011, 05:55:59 AM
First off, it's MOTAX, that might help you find their site. They make models for both the '08/'09s and the '10/'11/'12s, or at least they did. The mirrors on my '08 fold up just fine with the air deflectors installed. As for removing them easily? 4 screws and they're off/on.

'08/'09s  http://www.motax.fr/sommaire_Kawasaki/accessoires_1400_GTR/1400_GTR_07_09_deflecteurs_/1400_gtr_07_09_deflecteurs_.html (http://www.motax.fr/sommaire_Kawasaki/accessoires_1400_GTR/1400_GTR_07_09_deflecteurs_/1400_gtr_07_09_deflecteurs_.html)


It is just to bad that 69 euro is roughly equivalent to 17,000 of our American dollars.  ;D 

Everytime I would go out with my wife in Germany we would pull 100 euro from the atm, and at the bottom of the receipt it would show the US equivalent, and it was like I got punched in the stomach.  There were times when we were paying 50 euro cents to the dollar.  Now that the Euro is weak along with the dollar it isn't so bad.  It is 75 euro cents to the dollar right now so those hand wings will cost around $95, then tack on international shipping and it won't be cheap.  They do look very nice though.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on October 05, 2011, 09:22:30 AM
It is just to bad that 69 euro is roughly equivalent to 17,000 of our American dollars.  ;D 


Easily worth twice that price when your hands are freezing.    ;)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: roadie on October 05, 2011, 10:37:45 AM
Just ordered the Air Baker's.  Anyone have a picture of how they mount?  I saw the pictures of them in an earlier post, but couldn't get a good gander at the mount.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: tthompsr on October 05, 2011, 11:03:51 AM
Ordered the Bakers also, looking for more protection in the rain.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: maxtog on October 05, 2011, 05:49:46 PM
First off, it's MOTAX, that might help you find their site. They make models for both the '08/'09s and the '10/'11/'12s, or at least they did. The mirrors on my '08 fold up just fine with the air deflectors installed. As for removing them easily? 4 screws and they're off/on.

'10/'11/'12s  http://www.motax.fr/sommaire_Kawasaki/accessoires_1400_GTR/1400_GTR_10_11__deflecteurs/1400_gtr_10_11__deflecteurs.html (http://www.motax.fr/sommaire_Kawasaki/accessoires_1400_GTR/1400_GTR_10_11__deflecteurs/1400_gtr_10_11__deflecteurs.html)

Thanks for the info.   I wish there were a USA option, since I can't even read their site and wouldn't want to try and transact internationally.  Silver hardware isn't exciting either :(   If the hardware was black, and the bracket could be easily removed from the dash without wear or taking the dash apart, then those would be nearly perfect (well, assuming they deflect with the 2" risers).
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Flathead on October 05, 2011, 06:17:13 PM
Not trying to steal the thread or offend anyone..

I make hand wings for the '10-'12 models, pics can be seen here: http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=2854.msg35072#msg35072 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=2854.msg35072#msg35072) and I am happy to provide more pics.

Re the hardware: The ones that I make are a single piece of polycarbonate (Lexan®) so the only hardware is a couple of spacers and two longer, stainless steel, replacement screws and a couple of nylon spacers.

69 Euro (Motax) is about $92.00, not including shipping. Mine are $55.00 including shipping.

PM me if interested or if you want additional pics or details via email.

I would like to make them for the earlier models as well, if there is anyone in the Denver area with a 2008-09 that would like to drink beer some weekend and get a free pair of wings please PM me.

Thanks!
Bill
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Shadowofshoe on October 05, 2011, 06:59:38 PM
      Quote :    "BDF:  The hand wings are just slightly less effective in the winter but they have the great advantage that they can be turned about 90 degrees and have outside air diverted to the rider. I find they are easily worth 15 F and maybe 20 F in comfort when it is hot out. I ended up leaving the Bakers on all year and just rotate them as necessary." End Q

    This may be the nail that drives my decision as I like to dress for a cool/cold ride, and it doesn't always work right,but thats what luggage is for!!
      You cannot undress for hot rides and I ride a lot more in summer, way more than in cooler temps, although I like the :first in,last out, accounting of my riding.
        Mike
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Texas Concours14 on October 05, 2011, 07:54:44 PM
I can attest to Flathead's hand wings.  Recommended!
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Flathead on October 05, 2011, 11:38:28 PM
I can attest to Flathead's hand wings.  Recommended!

Thanks Steve!
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on October 06, 2011, 04:57:57 AM
Not trying to steal the thread or offend anyone..

I make hand wings for the '10-'12 models, pics can be seen here: http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=2854.msg35072#msg35072 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=2854.msg35072#msg35072) and I am happy to provide more pics.

Re the hardware: The ones that I make are a single piece of polycarbonate (Lexan®) so the only hardware is a couple of spacers and two longer, stainless steel, replacement screws and a couple of nylon spacers.

69 Euro (Motax) is about $92.00, not including shipping. Mine are $55.00 including shipping.

PM me if interested or if you want additional pics or details via email.

I would like to make them for the earlier models as well, if there is anyone in the Denver area with a 2008-09 that would like to drink beer some weekend and get a free pair of wings please PM me.

Thanks!
Bill

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: krsron on October 07, 2011, 06:18:42 PM
does the projekg hand wings work on a 09 with ultra tour cb screen
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: roadie on October 10, 2011, 03:30:44 PM
Finally got my Air Baker's and wanted to share some pics of the bracket that holds the wing it self.  Did a 200 miler with my son on Saturday and can report that when they are closed, no air hits my paws; when they are swung open, air hits the paws.  Bottomline:  nice.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Flathead on October 10, 2011, 03:50:28 PM
Finally got my Air Baker's and wanted to share some pics of the bracket that holds the wing it self.  Did a 200 miler with my son on Saturday and can report that when they are closed, no air hits my paws; when they are swung open, air hits the paws.  Bottomline:  nice.

Look great!
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: maxtog on October 10, 2011, 04:52:54 PM
Finally got my Air Baker's and wanted to share some pics of the bracket that holds the wing it self.  Did a 200 miler with my son on Saturday and can report that when they are closed, no air hits my paws; when they are swung open, air hits the paws.  Bottomline:  nice.

Note to everyone:  When talking about "wings" experiences- please indicate year of bike and risers or not (and which).  Otherwise, the data are meaningless (because of height variances of mirrors and handlebars).

It LOOKS like you are an older C14 and with no risers....  right?
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on October 10, 2011, 05:22:13 PM
Note to everyone:  When talking about "wings" experiences- please indicate year of bike and risers or not (and which).  Otherwise, the data are meaningless (because of height variances of mirrors and handlebars).

Mine is an 09 with 2" Heli risers and Murph's wedges, my ProjektD wings work great!  :)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: roadie on October 10, 2011, 05:44:46 PM
Note to everyone:  When talking about "wings" experiences- please indicate year of bike and risers or not (and which).  Otherwise, the data are meaningless (because of height variances of mirrors and handlebars).

It LOOKS like you are an older C14 and with no risers....  right?

well, not too meaningless...sure you can tell its no newer than a 2009 since it has the tank box.  Correct, no risers.  Mine is a 2009 ABS.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: roadie on October 10, 2011, 06:00:25 PM
how's that, even put a fancy personal text in case i forget to tell someone again that my mount is a 2009.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: maxtog on October 10, 2011, 07:47:38 PM
how's that, even put a fancy personal text in case i forget to tell someone again that my mount is a 2009.

 :D

In most topics, it won't matter.  But in some, there are enough differences to make a difference!
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 11, 2011, 05:53:45 AM
how's that, even put a fancy personal text in case i forget to tell someone again that my mount is a 2009.

The biggest question is this;  Is it red or black?  That will be the difference maker.    ;D


Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: martin_14 on October 11, 2011, 11:07:51 PM
The biggest question is this;  Is it red or black?  That will be the difference maker.    ;D

now that is a connaisseur! (I suppose you meant black is better than red, didn't you? :o)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on October 12, 2011, 08:03:30 AM
now that is a connaisseur! (I suppose you meant black is better than red, didn't you? :o)

Actually, he meant that silver is better.    ;)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Khrome on October 12, 2011, 09:51:02 AM
Actually, he meant that silver is better.    ;)

exactly  :P
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 12, 2011, 05:21:15 PM
Actually, he meant that silver is better.    ;)

Why of course!  Is there any color that blends into it's surrounding better than Neutron Silver[dammit]? 



Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Flathead on October 12, 2011, 05:36:09 PM
Why of course!  Is there any color that blends into it's surrounding better than Neutron Silver[dammit]?

How about the 2005 (I think) gold/tan color  ;D

(http://www.kellys-kawasaki.com/imgs/mc/05tour/concours_800.jpg)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Spanky on October 18, 2011, 12:47:35 PM
Just installed the baker air wings. I have a Cee Baileys shield in dark grey and the hand wings (new design, dark tint) match perfect. They installed in a couple of minutes. I have not ridden with them yet, but I hope they cut wind flow over my hands in the cold weather.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: MrFurious on November 02, 2011, 05:17:11 AM
Here's a silly question....

I've been contemplating getting some form of air deflectors for my hands (bit chilly here in Ohio lately), and while looking at my bike yesterday I realized something.  Why doesn't someone just make a windshield that has built-in wings to keep the wind off your hands?  There's nothing that would be in the way to prevent doing so, and it would eliminate the (IMO) crappy looking brackets most of the bolt-on wings use. 

Have a buddy who actually works for National Cycle, might have to run that idea by him.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on November 02, 2011, 05:18:19 AM
Here's a silly question....

I've been contemplating getting some form of air deflectors for my hands (bit chilly here in Ohio lately), and while looking at my bike yesterday I realized something.  Why doesn't someone just make a windshield that has built-in wings to keep the wind off your hands?  There's nothing that would be in the way to prevent doing so, and it would eliminate the (IMO) crappy looking brackets most of the bolt-on wings use. 

Have a buddy who actually works for National Cycle, might have to run that idea by him.

And what happens when you raise the windshield?
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: MrFurious on November 02, 2011, 06:13:17 AM
And what happens when you raise the windshield?

Well, if designed properly it would provide wind protection to the hands through the full range of the windshield's movement.  Might be a little harder to do for the `10+ models with their higher mirrors, but there's more than enough room on the 08-09 models.  Most cooler weather/touring windshields will be taller anyway, so how far one would have to raise it would be minimized. 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Caffeinated on November 02, 2011, 09:34:59 AM
I noticed an 08 trade-in for sale at my local dealer that had pieces of Lexan bolted onto the sides of a Cee Bailey's screen giving it an extra 5 or so inches of coverage on the sides. It was cut to conform to the same shape, but just stuck out on the sides.  Unfortunately I did not think to take a pic of it.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: maxtog on November 02, 2011, 04:28:03 PM
And what happens when you raise the windshield?

Or if you need to fold your mirrors to fit in your cover...
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on November 30, 2011, 05:37:15 PM
FYI, it looks like ProjektD is now making these for the 2010+ Connies too now, I was just on their site and it's listed for the December new products... I'm real happy with the ones I bought from them for my 09.  :)   :thumbs:
 
Here's the link:
http://projektd.com/product_info.php?products_id=187 (http://projektd.com/product_info.php?products_id=187)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/sdaifhoweq7.jpg)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/sadoijwiq43.jpg)

 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: b206driver on December 01, 2011, 01:57:00 PM
ZG - Do you have a stock or aftermarket windshield? I had a pair of Flatheads airwings, but they contacted the CalSci windshield I have mounted. Just wondering if these will work with my windshield....the Cal Sci is about 4" wider if I recall.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: B.D.F. on December 01, 2011, 02:09:54 PM
The original Metalbender hand wings also interfere with the CalSci windshields- those windshields have corners that project much more than the stock windshield and apparently Cee Bailey windshields too. I have metalbender's wings and a CalSci +6 and can only put the windshield down about 2/3 of the way before the corners strike the deflectors.

Brian


ZG - Do you have a stock or aftermarket windshield? I had a pair of Flatheads airwings, but they contacted the CalSci windshield I have mounted. Just wondering if these will work with my windshield....the Cal Sci is about 4" wider if I recall.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on December 01, 2011, 02:24:45 PM
ZG - Do you have a stock or aftermarket windshield? I had a pair of Flatheads airwings, but they contacted the CalSci windshield I have mounted. Just wondering if these will work with my windshield....the Cal Sci is about 4" wider if I recall.

I'm currently wearing a Kawi tall shield and they clear no problem, I even changed the angle by swapping the spacers for more protection since I have Heli risers and Murph's wedges. My Connie is an 09 and I have the 08/09 wings from ProjektD...
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: PH14 on December 01, 2011, 05:10:04 PM
The original Metalbender hand wings also interfere with the CalSci windshields- those windshields have corners that project much more than the stock windshield and apparently Cee Bailey windshields too. I have metalbender's wings and a CalSci +6 and can only put the windshield down about 2/3 of the way before the corners strike the deflectors.

Brian

This is the issue I am having. I am trying to decide whether to get the ProjektDs or the Motax and I have a CalSci windshield as well. I have a 2009 C14. Any thoughts? Anyone know whether either one or both would work?

I currently have Bakers on the bike, however when I ordered them Baker sent two different brackets, they have slightly different bends and with all my traveling I never did anything about it. I love them for Spring through Fall since I can turn them for airflow or protection, but was thinking of going with something else for a bit more protection for Winter.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: B.D.F. on December 01, 2011, 05:27:36 PM
Me too- I have both the Baker's hand wings and Metalbender's (similar to the ProjectD type) and often use the Metalbenders in the winter. The Bakers are fantastic to turn inward in the summer but do not provide as much protection. Last winter I used the Bakers all year and they were adequate but this year I changed back to Metalbenders (last week in fact).

Once it is late enough in the year to be absolutely sure that I won't want to turn the deflectors inward I find the larger types work must better. The Bakers are adequate but Metalbenders are excellent, protection- wise speaking. Bakers are also a bit of a pain to clean, at least on the inside.

The problem with interference seems to be more the CalSci windshield than the hand guards. Even the Baker hand wings have very little room for the windshield to move down and have to be adjusted to almost the exact right degree of rotation. So far I have been pretty lucky in catching myself when lowering the windshield with the hand guards in place but I have bumped them a few times. There is not a lot of force generated because there is not much interference even with the windshield all the way down (because it rotates as it sinks) but the corners of the windshield will scar the deflectors fairly quickly I think.

Brian


This is the issue I am having. I am trying to decide whether to get the ProjektDs or the Motax and I have a CalSci windshield as well. I have a 2009 C14. Any thoughts? Anyone know whether either one or both would work?

I currently have Bakers on the bike, however when I ordered them Baker sent two different brackets, they have slightly different bends and with all my traveling I never did anything about it. I love them for Spring through Fall since I can turn them for airflow or protection, but was thinking of going with something else for a bit more protection for Winter.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on December 01, 2011, 05:29:18 PM
This is the issue I am having. I am trying to decide whether to get the ProjektDs or the Motax and I have a CalSci windshield as well. I have a 2009 C14. Any thoughts? Anyone know whether either one or both would work?

I currently have Bakers on the bike, however when I ordered them Baker sent two different brackets, they have slightly different bends and with all my traveling I never did anything about it. I love them for Spring through Fall since I can turn them for airflow or protection, but was thinking of going with something else for a bit more protection for Winter.

Which size Cal shield do you have PH? Or are they all the same in the lower width dimension down where the wings would go??  ??? 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Khrome on December 01, 2011, 07:31:21 PM
FYI, it looks like ProjektD is now making these for the 2010+ Connies too now.

Yes they are, they emailed me last week to let me know since I had previously inquired...  8)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: maxtog on December 01, 2011, 09:24:56 PM
FYI, it looks like ProjektD is now making these for the 2010+ Connies too now, I was just on their site and it's listed for the December new products... I'm real happy with the ones I bought from them for my 09.  :)   :thumbs:

Thanks for the info.  Looks good, just not adjustable :(
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: PH14 on December 01, 2011, 10:17:31 PM
The problem with interference seems to be more the CalSci windshield than the hand guards. Even the Baker hand wings have very little room for the windshield to move down and have to be adjusted to almost the exact right degree of rotation. So far I have been pretty lucky in catching myself when lowering the windshield with the hand guards in place but I have bumped them a few times. There is not a lot of force generated because there is not much interference even with the windshield all the way down (because it rotates as it sinks) but the corners of the windshield will scar the deflectors fairly quickly I think.

Brian

Thanks Brian. I probably shouldn't worry about it too much since there is no need to put the windshield down all the way in the Winter anyway. I would take the ProjekDs or Motax deflectors off once it gets warm anyway.

ZG, I have the medium windshield. It was medium back when I bought it in June of 2010 but their sizing may have changed between then and now. I think at the bottom they are all the same though.

I just rode home tonight and it is 26 degrees out. I came out to the bike and the seat was covered in frost.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on December 02, 2011, 04:45:33 AM
Thanks Brian. I probably shouldn't worry about it too much since there is no need to put the windshield down all the way in the Winter anyway. I would take the ProjekDs or Motax deflectors off once it gets warm anyway.

ZG, I have the medium windshield. It was medium back when I bought it in June of 2010 but their sizing may have changed between then and now. I think at the bottom they are all the same though.

I just rode home tonight and it is 26 degrees out. I came out to the bike and the seat was covered in frost.

Aren't all the CalSci shields the same dimensions as far as width goes? I have the CalSci tinted shorty and it works perfectly with my Motax deflectors. I have pics if you want to see?
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: PH14 on December 02, 2011, 10:04:18 AM
Aren't all the CalSci shields the same dimensions as far as width goes? I have the CalSci tinted shorty and it works perfectly with my Motax deflectors. I have pics if you want to see?

I believe they are the same at the bottom. Pics are always good but I take your word for it. How do you like them for coverage?
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on December 02, 2011, 10:09:36 AM
I believe they are the same at the bottom. Pics are always good but I take your word for it. How do you like them for coverage?

I love em, I wish that I had bought them sooner than I did. I went though one season without them.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: PH14 on December 02, 2011, 11:10:32 AM
I love em, I wish that I had bought them sooner than I did. I went though one season without them.

Those look nice. I am only concerned that yours is obviously a 2010 or later model and mine is a 2009. What color are those? I see they have smoked black and smoked gray.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on December 02, 2011, 11:23:09 AM
Those look nice. I am only concerned that yours is obviously a 2010 or later model and mine is a 2009. What color are those? I see they have smoked black and smoked gray.

No sir, that's my '08. They called those light smoke, so I guess it's the smoked gray.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: PH14 on December 02, 2011, 11:33:14 AM
No sir, that's my '08. They called those light smoke, so I guess it's the smoked gray.

Hahahaha, well, I have been looking at pictures of the bike taken from the front with those deflectors on it and I keep thinking, "What are those weird vents on the mirror brackets? Must be a 2010." I guess I never look at my bike from the front. I just looked at mine and my bike looks just like the pictures. lol Keep in mind I have had the bike for a year and a half and have 17,600 miles on it, but have only washed it once. That may be why.

Thanks for the info and the pic.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: PH14 on December 02, 2011, 11:39:25 AM
Okay, I just ordered them in the fume' noir, or black. Thanks!
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ljcorby on December 02, 2011, 11:43:24 AM
anyone know how long it takes to get the Motax hand deflectors into the US?
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on December 02, 2011, 11:50:08 AM
anyone know how long it takes to get the Motax hand deflectors into the US?

We did a group order on these and I'm thinking that it was around 7 - 10 days total.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on December 02, 2011, 12:38:33 PM
Okay, I just ordered them in the fume' noir, or black. Thanks!

noir is fastest!  ;D
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on December 02, 2011, 01:25:30 PM

noir is fastest!  ;D

If you order black it will prolly take two weeks shipping  :o
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on December 02, 2011, 01:28:01 PM
If you order black it will prolly take two weeks shipping  :o

 :rotflmao: :grouphug:
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: PH14 on December 03, 2011, 10:08:17 AM
If you order black it will prolly take two weeks shipping  :o

 :cannon: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: wally_games on December 04, 2011, 12:45:17 PM
Is there a US distributor for the Motax deflectors? Or, an English website?

Do they only come with the GTR logo? I'd love a plain dark tint set with no graphics.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: PH14 on December 04, 2011, 04:16:08 PM
Is there a US distributor for the Motax deflectors? Or, an English website?

Do they only come with the GTR logo? I'd love a plain dark tint set with no graphics.

I don't know of a US distributor. It isn't difficult to navigate their site though and they accept payment through Paypal so the process is relatively painless.

For the 07-09 deflectors they only have the ones with the logo. It seems as if the 10-11 deflectors are logo free. I personally like the logo but that's a personal opinion.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on December 04, 2011, 04:46:51 PM
Is there a US distributor for the Motax deflectors? Or, an English website?

Do they only come with the GTR logo? I'd love a plain dark tint set with no graphics.

No US distributor or English site. For our group order we went through an importer. http://www.streetfightersbydesign.com/ (http://www.streetfightersbydesign.com/)

You'll have to use one of the translating programs on Motax's website, no problem.

As for the logo, it's cut into the metal bracket but only on the '08/'09 models.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: wally_games on December 04, 2011, 06:00:50 PM
Thanks. I see some of those in my future.  ;D
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on December 04, 2011, 06:42:46 PM
Is there a US distributor for the Motax deflectors? Or, an English website?

Do they only come with the GTR logo? I'd love a plain dark tint set with no graphics.

You could buy them this way too WG if it makes you more comfortable...
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deflecteur-Kawasaki-1400-GTR-10-11-fume-noir-/220842238695?pt=FR_JG_Moto_Tuning&hash=item336b3922e7 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deflecteur-Kawasaki-1400-GTR-10-11-fume-noir-/220842238695?pt=FR_JG_Moto_Tuning&hash=item336b3922e7)
 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on December 05, 2011, 04:37:58 AM
I don't know if you guys are aware of it or not but one of our members at this site (Flathead http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=profile;u=96 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=profile;u=96)) is making one piece deflectors of this type and I'm sure that he'd be more than happy to sell you a set.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: 556ALPHA on December 05, 2011, 11:10:42 AM
I don't know if you guys are aware of it or not but one of our members at this site (Flathead http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=profile;u=96 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=profile;u=96)) is making one piece deflectors of this type and I'm sure that he'd be more than happy to sell you a set.

wish they were available for the 2009 though...........
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Flathead on December 05, 2011, 02:51:24 PM
I don't know if you guys are aware of it or not but one of our members at this site (Flathead http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=profile;u=96 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=profile;u=96)) is making one piece deflectors of this type and I'm sure that he'd be more than happy to sell you a set.

Thanks Conrad...
Another member on the forum has offered to play guinea pig with an '08-09. Problem right now is the weather, snowed again last night and a high of 7° today. I'll post up when we have success!

Bill
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: basmntdweller on December 05, 2011, 07:48:52 PM
Thanks Conrad...
Another member on the forum has offered to play guinea pig with an '08-09. Problem right now is the weather, snowed again last night and a high of 7° today. I'll post up when we have success!

Bill

I saw your original thread and DLed your pattern for the '10-11s. I have an '09 and figured your pattern would be a good place to start modifying to fit my'09. I won't say it can't be done, but it is gonna be real tight around the bend and the top bolt in order to stay behind the windscreen. I can see why the other mfgs use a bracket and mount the lexan to it. I may have a bit more time tomorrow to get a little better fitment of my pattern before cutting the 1/8" lexan sheet I have handy.
Do you use heat or anything to bend the lexan? It is gonna take a really sharp bend to clear.

Matt
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: DenverC-14 on December 05, 2011, 09:46:53 PM
Thanks Conrad...
Another member on the forum has offered to play guinea pig with an '08-09. Problem right now is the weather, snowed again last night and a high of 7° today. I'll post up when we have success!

Bill
I'm said guinea pig.. it's -5 right now, with 5 inches of ice, at my place.. Damn weather not playing nice. I think in  a week or 2 it might be decent enough to get out on the bike and not totally freeze/slide down the driveway :p
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Flathead on December 05, 2011, 10:51:11 PM
@dweller, I do use heat. 1/8" Lexan can be bent cold with a sheet metal break but you have to over bend it quite a bit due to the spring-back. I'm trying to stay with one piece to keep the costs low, KISS principle.

@Denver: If it does not clear up soon I could drive up and try and get some initial cardboard patterns?? The 2010 model required quite a few trial and error attempts before I was satisfied with both looks and function.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: DenverC-14 on December 05, 2011, 10:58:49 PM
@dweller, I do use heat. 1/8" Lexan can be bent cold with a sheet metal break but you have to over bend it quite a bit due to the spring-back. I'm trying to stay with one piece to keep the costs low, KISS principle.

@Denver: If it does not clear up soon I could drive up and try and get some initial cardboard patterns?? The 2010 model required quite a few trial and error attempts before I was satisfied with both looks and function.
+1 sounds like a plan
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on December 08, 2011, 10:59:15 AM
Okay, I just ordered them in the fume' noir, or black. Thanks!

Hey PH, have your noir wings arrived yet? How dark are they? How much did they charge you including shipping?
 
I'm just looking for a back-up plan in case my tinting project doesn't turn out to my expectations/standards...  ;)
 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: PH14 on December 14, 2011, 07:09:46 PM

Hey PH, have your noir wings arrived yet? How dark are they? How much did they charge you including shipping?
 
I'm just looking for a back-up plan in case my tinting project doesn't turn out to my expectations/standards...  ;)

I just got them today/ I thought that wasn't bad. I ordered them on December 2, they shipped them on the 9th and I received them today.  Shipping was $15.59 and the total price including shipping was $105.54. Kind of pricy but I liked the way they looked and I was going for something that would work with the CalSci windshield. More on that later.

I think the smoked gray would have been dark enough but I was going for as dark as I could go. outside it all seems to blend in well, in the pictures it doesn't blend as well. Overall I'm happy with the way they look.

I am planning on painting the mount, they are bare metal basically. It is sort of a brushed finish. I'm going to pain them matte black. Come to think of it, I could paint the entire deflector that color and it would match the rest of the plastic bodywork. I'm not sure I'll go that far though.

If you don't like the GTR logo, it doesn't really show with the black smoked.

I wasn't thrilled with the fact the mounts had a film on the back I had to peel off. It is a protective film they hadn't removed. It wasn't a big deal but it also covered the GTR logo and was hard to remove from that part. If you had the gray smoked you would have to clean that area up a bit.

My CalSci windshield does hit the deflectors when it is lowered. It isn't really an issue since I will be running the windshield in pretty much the highest setting over the cold months. I could possibly bend back the bracket but that might make them less effective at blocking the wind. I may slot the mounting holes a bit more before painting them to allow them to be moved back a bit. It wouldn't take much.

They seem to fit well overall and look good. I think they look better than the Bakers and the definitely fit better. Baker sent me two different brackets so they never fit really well. I never got around to having them send me the right brackets. They worked so I didn't deal with it. Before I put them on in the Summer I will.

These seem to keep the wind off my hands, but the wind flows just over my hands. I am running the bars int eh stock positing right now so I'm not sure how these would work with risers.

Overall I am happy with them. I thought Motax gave great service, 12 days from purchase to my door from France is pretty good.

(http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/RCRide/Concours%201400/Motax_deflectors-4104.jpg)

(http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/RCRide/Concours%201400/Motax_deflectors-4095.jpg)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on December 14, 2011, 08:05:22 PM
Thanks for the pics bro, I ordered a set last week and got an email today with a tracking number.
 
We'll see... more to come.  :-\
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on December 15, 2011, 04:40:54 AM
PH14,

Yeah, $105 does seem kinda pricy but when your hands are freezing it seems like a downright bargain!

Your shield hits the deflectors? I have the Calsci shorty and they don't touch, close though. If you loosen up the screws for the brackets you can push them down a bit a retighten em up, might help.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: cablebandit on December 15, 2011, 07:02:51 AM
Unless you just want to toss 120 bucks at a pair of heated gloves.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: PH14 on December 15, 2011, 10:25:04 AM
PH14,

Yeah, $105 does seem kinda pricy but when your hands are freezing it seems like a downright bargain!

Your shield hits the deflectors? I have the Calsci shorty and they don't touch, close though. If you loosen up the screws for the brackets you can push them down a bit a retighten em up, might help.

Yep, it hits, and the brackets are already all the way down. I have the medium shield. As for the price, I think it was reasonable especially given the shipping from France.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on December 22, 2011, 05:08:59 PM
Here's some pics of my new Projax hand wings... (ProjektD brackets with dark tint Motax plastics)
 
I like the ProjektD bases better than the Motax bases because the ProjektD ones are already powder coated black, but only Motax makes a tinted plastic so I'm taking the best of both worlds (ok countries, France and Taiwan).  :)
 
The holes for the bolts are slightly different/off, I just made the holes in the plastic a tad bigger with a dremal and fits like a glove now.  8)
 
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00756-20111222-1507.jpg)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00761-20111222-1510.jpg)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00757-20111222-1508.jpg)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00758-20111222-1508.jpg)
 
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Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on December 22, 2011, 05:44:46 PM
Looks great!  Did you put a shim in between the wind and the bracket to lift the rear edge?  I have been thinking about doing that during the cold months.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on December 22, 2011, 05:55:59 PM
Looks great!  Did you put a shim in between the wind and the bracket to lift the rear edge?  I have been thinking about doing that during the cold months.

Thanks Jeremy. Yes, I put some plastic spacers in between to raise them up a bit, cost like 15 cents down at the hardware store.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on December 23, 2011, 05:25:52 AM
Looks great!
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on December 23, 2011, 09:43:01 AM
Looks great!

Thanks C, Merry Christmas to ya bro!  :chugbeer:
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on December 24, 2011, 05:19:15 AM

Thanks C, Merry Christmas to ya bro!  :chugbeer:

I hope the same for you and yours J.    :grouphug:
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: basmntdweller on January 25, 2012, 04:07:06 PM
I got my lexan cut and bent for my '09. I need to get some screws and spacers made up to mount them up. I did the same as flathead and made a copy of my template and scanned it to a pdf file. If the site will let me upload it when I post this, I will attach the pdf file for others that may want to make some for their '08 or '09.
One note, the bend must be pretty sharp in order to have room for the upper bolt head. Once I get the dimensions nailed down for the right thickness spacers and proper length screws needed I will post them up. The hole locations on the pdf file are just approximate. Best bet is to drill the upper hole and bolt it down then mark for the lower hole so it matches up nicely.
I will try to get the final bolt lengths and spacer thicknesses before the weekend.
Pics when they are mounted up.


Good luck, Matt
 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on February 13, 2012, 08:34:23 PM
I was just on the ProjektD site and see that they now offer these in a tinted version now too. Why the heck am I always ahead of the curve...  :banghead:
 
http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=178 (http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=178)
 
 
Do I now abandon the Projax customs??  :-\
 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on February 14, 2012, 04:41:26 AM
I was just on the ProjektD site and see that they now offer these in a tinted version now too. Why the heck am I always ahead of the curve...  :banghead:
 
http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=178 (http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=178)
 
 
Do I now abandon the Projax customs??  :-\

Stoppit J, put that credit card back in your wallet and step away from the keyboard. Your bike looks great, for black that is...
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 14, 2012, 04:45:54 AM
Quit telling him that.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on February 14, 2012, 04:49:58 AM
Quit telling him that.

But Jim, we all know what color is really the best.    8)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 14, 2012, 04:56:24 AM
Truer words have never been spoken.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: martin_14 on February 14, 2012, 08:30:19 AM
Truer words have never been spoken.

outcasts! heretics!!!
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 14, 2012, 08:49:38 AM
Someone has to say it and be the torch bearers of the truth, Martin.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on February 14, 2012, 10:14:04 AM
The ProjektD plastics are bigger than the Motax though, meaning even more wind protection.  :-\
 
Here's a pic of a Motax wing on top of the ProjektD wing, you can see about an inch difference in height...
 
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Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on February 14, 2012, 10:30:28 AM
The ProjektD plastics are bigger than the Motax though, meaning even more wind protection.  :-\
 
Here's a pic of a Motax wing on top of the ProjektD wing, you can see about an inch difference in height...
 

Carry on then J, I've heard that you can really use an extra inch...    :o    :-X
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on February 14, 2012, 11:01:07 AM
Carry on then J, I've heard that you can really use an extra inch...    :o    :-X

 :rotflmao:   :battle:
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on February 27, 2012, 09:33:53 PM
I was just on the ProjektD site and see that they now offer these in a tinted version now too. Why the heck am I always ahead of the curve...  :banghead:
 
http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=178 (http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=178)
 
 
Do I now abandon the Projax customs??  :-\

Arrived, installed...  8)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00853-20120227-1758.jpg)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00854-20120227-1933.jpg)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on February 28, 2012, 05:53:14 AM
Jay, I gotta say your bike bears a striking resemblence to the Dark Lord himself.  Is your bike named after anything in particular?   ;D 

(http://www.heroesyvillanos.com.ar/images/imgpersonajes/darthvader/Darth.jpg)
Coincidence?  I think not.
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00854-20120227-1933.jpg)

It looks great, I haven't even had my wings on for the last couple weeks since the weather has been so warm for February. 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Gumby on February 28, 2012, 07:18:01 AM

Arrived, installed...  8)
 

He's back........... :stirpot:
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on February 28, 2012, 10:33:42 AM
Jay, I gotta say your bike bears a striking resemblence to the Dark Lord himself.  Is your bike named after anything in particular?   ;D   

·        "I find your lack of faith disturbing."
·         
·        "You don't know the power of the dark side!"
·         
·        "Jeremy, I am your father!."
·         
·        "Today will be a day long remembered. It has seen the death of Cutback, and soon the fall of the rebellion."
·         
·        "The force is strong with this one."
·         
·        "I sense something, a presence I've not felt since......."
·         
·        "You should not have come back!"
·         
·        "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force."
·         
·        "Just for once, let me look at your face with my own eyes."
·         
·        "I've been waiting for you, Kurt. We meet again at last. The circle is now complete."
·         
·        "Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them."
·         
·        " KawiG once thought as you do. You don't know the power of the Dark Side, I must obey my master."
·         
·        "It is too late for me, son. LivnLoud will show you the true nature of the Force. He is your master now."
·         
·        "You are unwise to lower your defenses!"
·         
·        " As you wish."
·         
·        "No. Leave them to me. I will deal with them myself."
·         
·        "My son is with them."
·         
·        "You cannot hide forever, Conrad."
·         
·        "Don't fail me again, Timbo."
·         
·        "Asteroids do not concern me, Flathead. I want that ship, not excuses."
·         
·        "He will join us or die, my master."
·         
·        "Alert all commands. Calculate every possible destination along their last known trajectory."
·         
·        "Impressive. Most impressive. Sparky has taught you well. You have controlled your fear. Now, release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy me."
·         
·        "The force is with you, young 556ALPHA, but you are not a Jedi yet."
·         
·        "What is thy bidding, my master?"
 
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on February 28, 2012, 11:03:55 AM
He's back........... :stirpot:

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Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on February 28, 2012, 11:12:19 AM

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/sniwoue.gif)

I think that you've had quite enough beer for now my young Padawan. Now put down that light saber before you shoot your eye out.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: KawiG on February 28, 2012, 04:31:37 PM
Jay, I gotta say your bike bears a striking resemblence to the Dark Lord himself.  Is your bike named after anything in particular?   ;D 

(http://www.heroesyvillanos.com.ar/images/imgpersonajes/darthvader/Darth.jpg)
Coincidence?  I think not.
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00854-20120227-1933.jpg)

It looks great, I haven't even had my wings on for the last couple weeks since the weather has been so warm for February.
Anyone know where I can get a DOT certified helmet like that???
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: basmntdweller on February 28, 2012, 04:35:23 PM
The helmet and the rest of the costume would look pretty badass riding down the road on ZG's ride!

Matt
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 28, 2012, 04:36:44 PM
http://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/motorcycle-helmet/ (http://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/motorcycle-helmet/)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on February 28, 2012, 04:40:30 PM
http://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/motorcycle-helmet/ (http://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/motorcycle-helmet/)

Oh hell ya! This has KawiG's name written all over it!!  8)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/eriewpori.jpg)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: KawiG on February 28, 2012, 04:56:07 PM
DUUUUDE It's meeee.. :P Does it have bluetooth???
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 28, 2012, 05:05:22 PM
I don't think it has any teeth... :P
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on February 28, 2012, 05:26:53 PM
I don't think it has any teeth... :P

 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Conrad on February 29, 2012, 04:36:57 AM
I don't think it has any teeth... :P

Fangs are optional.
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: Son of Pappy on February 29, 2012, 06:08:03 PM

Oh hell ya! This has KawiG's name written all over it!!  8)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/eriewpori.jpg)
New meaning to "The darkside"  ;)
Title: Re: air wings for your hands
Post by: ZG on March 12, 2012, 10:19:57 PM
I was just on the ProjektD site and see that they now offer these in a tinted version now too. Why the heck am I always ahead of the curve...  :banghead:
 
http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=178 (http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=178)
 
 
Do I now abandon the Projax customs??  :-\

Ok, finally got an outside pic of the new tinted ProjektD hand wings the other day, here you go...
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00862-20120303-1331.jpg)