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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Gumby on September 13, 2012, 06:00:19 PM

Title: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Gumby on September 13, 2012, 06:00:19 PM
I don't get it.  :loco:
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: JeffM on September 13, 2012, 06:07:23 PM
Agreed. Seems like a lot of extra effort and logistics.
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: KawiG on September 13, 2012, 06:08:21 PM
Green with envy???
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: gPink on September 13, 2012, 06:10:32 PM
Makes podunk Euro countries feel special? Since they can't ride 3000 miles and still speak the same language they get the pretty green color.
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 13, 2012, 06:14:26 PM
 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: booger on September 13, 2012, 06:25:29 PM
It's just marketing.

Why would you think that people in different countries all prefer the same colors?

I grew up in a Dutch colony.  Every door through out the house was fire engine red.  In our living room, we had a yellow wall, blue wall green wall and a white wall.  Definately not standard "American" colors.
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: gPink on September 13, 2012, 06:34:40 PM
It's just marketing.

Why would you think that people in different countries all prefer the same colors?

I grew up in a Dutch colony.  Every door through out the house was fire engine red.  In our living room, we had a yellow wall, blue wall green wall and a white wall.  Definately not standard "American" colors.
Are you from New York?  :)
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: twowheeladdict on September 13, 2012, 08:36:11 PM
Why don't they just offer all the colors at all the locations?  I wouldn't mind ordering the right color.

Even when they have the same color they don't import all the same accessories.  I bought a 2011 Versys in red and had to get my handguard shells from the UK because the US only ordered black.  ::)
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: ZG on September 13, 2012, 08:46:57 PM
I don't get it.  :loco:

+1... agreed.  :nuts:
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 13, 2012, 08:51:49 PM
Well, a primary color has worked for Harley for how many years? ;) 8) :o
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: martin_14 on September 14, 2012, 02:32:32 AM
Makes podunk Euro countries feel special? Since they can't ride 3000 miles and still speak the same language they get the pretty green color.

you're not good in geography, are you?  ;) From where I live, in a 300 miles radius 11 different languages are spoken:
1. German
2. Slovakian
3. Czech
4. Hungarian
5. Slovenian
6. Croatian
7. Bosnian
8. Italian
9. French
10. Czech
11. Luxemburgish

But we've got the fastest colour anyway... BLACK. It's so fast that everybody speaks not only one language, but one word: wow!!!
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: pistole on September 14, 2012, 02:54:33 AM
you're not good in geography, are you?  ;) From where I live, in a 300 miles radius 11 different languages are spoken

- me thinks you misunderstood the point there ...

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Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Necron99 on September 14, 2012, 05:58:25 AM
and therefore aren't as good at english.....  lol  :D  I keed, I keed.....
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Mister Tee on September 14, 2012, 08:43:31 AM
Remember that in some places like the UK and Australia, you can't even get a bike that has a color.
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: stevewfl on September 14, 2012, 08:44:12 AM
performance knows no color, just enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: scubadoguk on September 14, 2012, 11:11:51 AM
If you do go to other country's once there you may see their idea of nice and your idea of nice often are not the same, so the colour thing is a cultural thing also.
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Gumby on September 14, 2012, 11:15:05 AM
If you do go to other country's once there you may see their idea of nice and your idea of nice often are not the same, so the colour thing is a cultural thing also.

See now that's a problem, cause I want a Kawasaki green Concours in my garage!  ;D
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Mister Tee on September 14, 2012, 11:20:11 AM
If you do go to other country's once there you may see their idea of nice and your idea of nice often are not the same, so the colour thing is a cultural thing also.

That green color looks like it was stolen directly from Triumph (which, I have no problem with) so I would think that if anything, that would cause an uproar in the UK...
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: scubadoguk on September 14, 2012, 11:23:15 AM
Nah the UK no one gives a fig, the triumph crowd would be flattered that they had it first
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: stevewfl on September 14, 2012, 12:04:32 PM
are they this color in  japan?

(http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/zerologo.jpg)
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Mister Tee on September 14, 2012, 12:16:24 PM
are they this color in  japan?

(http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/zerologo.jpg)

I would say they have zero that color.

hahahahahahahahaha!!!
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: quickwilly on September 14, 2012, 12:58:05 PM
you're not good in geography, are you?  ;) From where I live, in a 300 miles radius 11 different languages are spoken:
1. German
2. Slovakian
3. Czech
4. Hungarian
5. Slovenian
6. Croatian
7. Bosnian
8. Italian
9. French
10. Czech
11. Luxemburgish

But we've got the fastest colour anyway... BLACK. It's so fast that everybody speaks not only one language, but one word: wow!!!

Luxemburgish???? ....as in "Its almost Luxemburg"

Sorry....struck me as funny 
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: stevewfl on September 14, 2012, 01:02:03 PM
I would say they have zero that color.

hahahahahahahahaha!!!

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/lol.gif)
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Cheesecake on September 16, 2012, 11:26:17 PM
I think Kawasaki Heavy Industries offers all these colors but it's up to your country's distributor to decide which colors he wants to store and get stuck with if they don't sell. Kawasaki USA doesn't want to take all the colors and stock up warehouses with them. They have meetings and ask Mark what colors he likes. Those are the only colors they stock, and our USA dealers can only get those colors.
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: JeffM on September 17, 2012, 09:04:21 AM
I bet it wouldn't be too hard to find someone to swap tupperware with you in another country so you could each have something neat.
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Gumby on September 17, 2012, 09:41:51 AM
I bet it wouldn't be too hard to find someone to swap tupperware with you in another country so you could each have something neat.

Anybody on here want to trade black for green?  ;D
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: stevewfl on September 17, 2012, 09:48:12 AM
I think Kawasaki Heavy Industries offers all these colors but it's up to your country's distributor to decide which colors he wants to store and get stuck with if they don't sell. Kawasaki USA doesn't want to take all the colors and stock up warehouses with them. They have meetings and ask Mark what colors he likes. Those are the only colors they stock, and our USA dealers can only get those colors.

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/eek.gif)

I bet MARK at Kawi is deciding for USA
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Rhino on September 17, 2012, 10:04:25 AM
Ok, I get the idea that they only want to stock certain colors but what about being able to order the color you want? Since they have the panels in many different colors why not allow someone to order from the factory in the color they want?
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Gumby on September 17, 2012, 10:16:15 AM
I bet MARK at Kawi is deciding for USA

Somebody clearly forgot to consult with the forum.
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Boomer on September 17, 2012, 10:28:17 AM
Makes podunk Euro countries feel special? Since they can't ride 3000 miles and still speak the same language they get the pretty green color.
Maybe so, but then neither can y'all.  ::)
May be y'all could speak a *similar* language but east coast is different from west coast, midwest from deep south.
Then again, I can ride 20 miles and the accent changes markedly.
Yup, south Essex sounds like eastern London, but northern Essex sounds like Suffolk.
About as much difference as Jaw-ja to New Yoik.
That said I speak several languages so European travel isn't that difficult.
However, I don't speak or read a word of Greek and I still managed to order food and beer and managed to get laid in Greece!  ;D
It's amazing what ya can do when ya don't know what ya can't do. <LOL>

As for making us feel special  :P, we are so they should.  ;D
Y'all are just jealous because you have to ride 1000s miles to Mexico to see something more than a few hundred years old.
I can ride about 15 miles to see the nearest bit of Roman architecture (a mere 1900 years old) and 700 miles and a short ferry crossing gets me to a village thats over 4000 years old.
http://www.orkneyjar.com/history/skarabrae/ (http://www.orkneyjar.com/history/skarabrae/)

As for the colours, with the C10 they stopped selling it here in 1999.
Y'all got it until 2006 so don't go bellyaching about the damned colours when we didn't even get the bike!

If ya want the Green then write to Kwakasaki USA and tell them ya want the green.
If enough of ya do it they may well import it.
Personally I want a Team Kawasaki Green one.
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: stevewfl on September 17, 2012, 10:28:46 AM
Ok, I get the idea that they only want to stock certain colors but what about being able to order the color you want? Since they have the panels in many different colors why not allow someone to order from the factory in the color they want?

Kawi (or the euro brands) don't allow for factory direct orders for different  "color" or "pickup".  They are made in bulk per requirements of different countries, etc

I learned the whole process for stealerships when I recently tried to buy a BMW S1000RR to ride around Bavaria and then ship across the pond to USA. Not only could i order factory direct, but I couldn't go through a dealer and pick it up overseas.  Laws for "recreational" vehicles are diferent than cars.  If I want to do this with a BMW car manufactured at a german plant its no problem  >:(
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Conrad on September 17, 2012, 12:00:38 PM
snip...

Y'all are just jealous because you have to ride 1000s miles to Mexico to see something more than a few hundred years old.




Say what?

To name a couple that I have seen myself.

http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/mounds/builders.htm (http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/mounds/builders.htm)

http://www.blm.gov/co/st/en/fo/ahc/who_were_the_anasazi.html (http://www.blm.gov/co/st/en/fo/ahc/who_were_the_anasazi.html)
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Rhino on September 17, 2012, 02:19:59 PM
Say what?

To name a couple that I have seen myself.

http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/mounds/builders.htm (http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/mounds/builders.htm)

http://www.blm.gov/co/st/en/fo/ahc/who_were_the_anasazi.html (http://www.blm.gov/co/st/en/fo/ahc/who_were_the_anasazi.html)


+1 :thumbs:

Here is a place that was home to 1000's of people between 850 AD and 1250 AD. The stone work on the 1000 room buildings are amazing.
http://www.nps.gov/chcu/index.htm (http://www.nps.gov/chcu/index.htm)
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Gumby on September 17, 2012, 02:39:20 PM
Kawi (or the euro brands) don't allow for factory direct orders for different  "color" or "pickup".  They are made in bulk per requirements of different countries, etc

Now that's just stupid.

Not only could i NOT order factory direct, but I couldn't go through a dealer and pick it up overseas.  Laws for "recreational" vehicles are diferent than cars.  If I want to do this with a BMW car manufactured at a german plant its no problem  >:(

FIFY

Again stupid........ Isn't this because those bikes don't have the limiters in them?
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: stevewfl on September 17, 2012, 02:52:46 PM
I dunno but they lost a quick sale over that and I'm still shopping for a sportbike
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: katata1100 on September 17, 2012, 04:00:32 PM
Ideally, they would do market research with focus groups to see what colors people prefer. But, since this kawasaki we are talking about, I think the head of marketing blows his nose in a tissue and the most predominate colors in the booger/mucus mixture become the new colors.
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: twowheeladdict on September 17, 2012, 04:58:30 PM
Ok, I get the idea that they only want to stock certain colors but what about being able to order the color you want? Since they have the panels in many different colors why not allow someone to order from the factory in the color they want?

It is insane.  Like I have already said, I bought a 2011 Versys which is the the same color in europe.  I couldn't get the red handguard shells from Kawasaki USA so I had to order from the UK.  People have also orded full plastics from the UK and had them sent here.  Probably be cheaper to paint the bike, if you know a good painter.
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Gumby on September 17, 2012, 05:03:58 PM
Ideally, they would do market research with focus groups to see what colors people prefer. But, since this kawasaki we are talking about, I think the head of marketing blows his nose in a tissue and the most predominate colors in the booger/mucus mixture become the new colors.

Thanks for that bad visual.   :doublepuke:
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 17, 2012, 05:05:10 PM
Maybe so, but then neither can y'all.  ::)
May be y'all could speak a *similar* language but east coast is different from west coast, midwest from deep south.
Then again, I can ride 20 miles and the accent changes markedly.
Yup, south Essex sounds like eastern London, but northern Essex sounds like Suffolk.
About as much difference as Jaw-ja to New Yoik.
That said I speak several languages so European travel isn't that difficult.
However, I don't speak or read a word of Greek and I still managed to order food and beer and managed to get laid in Greece!  ;D
It's amazing what ya can do when ya don't know what ya can't do. <LOL>

As for making us feel special  :P , we are so they should.  ;D
Y'all are just jealous because you have to ride 1000s miles to Mexico to see something more than a few hundred years old.
I can ride about 15 miles to see the nearest bit of Roman architecture (a mere 1900 years old) and 700 miles and a short ferry crossing gets me to a village thats over 4000 years old.
http://www.orkneyjar.com/history/skarabrae/ (http://www.orkneyjar.com/history/skarabrae/)

As for the colours, with the C10 they stopped selling it here in 1999.
Y'all got it until 2006 so don't go bellyaching about the damned colours when we didn't even get the bike!

If ya want the Green then write to Kwakasaki USA and tell them ya want the green.
If enough of ya do it they may well import it.
Personally I want a Team Kawasaki Green one.

 ;D
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: daringdave on September 17, 2012, 06:34:36 PM
Seems like a good time to ask about the difference in motor oils sold in different countries... are they all the same color?  C'mon, how about an oil thread hijack?  ;D ;D :P
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 18, 2012, 07:50:11 AM
The bikes are ALWAYS greener on the other side of the pond ;D
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: stevewfl on September 18, 2012, 08:09:45 AM
The bikes are ALWAYS greener on the other side of the pond ;D

YUP but FOBs have the same mad pow-ah  :D
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Boomer on September 18, 2012, 08:39:06 AM
The bikes are ALWAYS greener on the other side of the pond ;D
That's cuz it rains all the f***ing time here and that green colour is moss & lichen.  :(
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Gumby on September 18, 2012, 09:14:38 AM
It rains a LOT here in Oregon too   :'(
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: ZG on September 18, 2012, 09:34:11 AM
I'm bored... I think I'll pick me up an extra full set of C14 plastics and have them painted the 2012 ZX14R green so I can swap the plastics back and fourth depending on my mood...  ;)
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: Conrad on September 18, 2012, 09:41:30 AM
I'm bored... I think I'll pick me up an extra full set of C14 plastics and have them painted the 2012 ZX14R green so I can swap the plastics back and fourth depending on my mood...  ;)

 :thumbs:

That green would be good for an increase of at least 30hp at the wheel. Balancing that out with all your black would give you almost as much power as a Silverdammit.
Title: Re: What is the point of selling different colors in different countries?
Post by: pistole on September 19, 2012, 03:06:26 AM
- Boomer , for heaven's sakes. Stop yanking that chain ! You're gonna hurt yourself.

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