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Title: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: anycleavers on June 22, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
Not sure where to post this. Interesting article I came across, from Motorcycle Cruiser online (no affiliation).
Is it OK to post links like this? If not please edit and delete. Thanks

 http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/streetsurvival/dangerous_motorcycle_safety_myths/index.html#ixzz1Q3d7Jz1K (http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/streetsurvival/dangerous_motorcycle_safety_myths/index.html#ixzz1Q3d7Jz1K)
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: tonedeaf on June 22, 2011, 08:08:04 PM
Great collection. Almost everyone of them is on my pet peeves list.
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: Conrad on June 23, 2011, 05:39:02 AM
Nice!

I've never read it explained better than this.


Myth 2: Loud Pipes Save Lives
Yeah, there are a few situations—like where you are right next to a driver with his window down who is about the to change lanes—where full-time noise-makers might help a driver notice you, but all that noise directed rearward doesn't do much in the most common and much more dangerous conflict where a car turns in front of you. Maybe it's the fatigue caused by the noise, maybe it's the attitudes of riders who insist on making annoying noise, or perhaps loud bikes annoy enough drivers to make them aggressive. Whatever the reason, the research shows that bikes with modified exhaust systems crash more frequently than those with stock pipes. If you really want to save lives, turn to a loud jacket or a bright helmet color, which have been proven to do the job. Or install a louder horn. Otherwise, just shut up.
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: JetJock on June 23, 2011, 11:17:40 AM
Excellent and couldn't agree more. Printed out extra copies for my daughter and her boyfriend, both of whom are newbie street riders.
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: anycleavers on June 23, 2011, 07:10:39 PM
I've been sending stuff like this to my older sis who is about to become a first time rider. 
She's in her low 50's and "dammit" really wants to ride a motorcycle. If you have ever met her, once her mind is made, that's it, all in. She went and bought a 750 Shadow and is planning on a MSF class to get her on the road. That wouldn't be my choice for a first time rider but it's her rodeo, she will not be dissuaded.  I sure wish I were closer, to help and advise, but I'm 800 miles away. 

Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: Conrad on June 24, 2011, 05:52:18 AM
I've been sending stuff like this to my older sis who is about to become a first time rider. 
She's in her low 50's and "dammit" really wants to ride a motorcycle. If you have ever met her, once her mind is made, that's it, all in. She went and bought a 750 Shadow and is planning on a MSF class to get her on the road. That wouldn't be my choice for a first time rider but it's her rodeo, she will not be dissuaded.  I sure wish I were closer, to help and advise, but I'm 800 miles away.

Good luck to her! Too bad she didn't take the MSF class before she got the bike.
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: anycleavers on June 24, 2011, 03:04:39 PM
I agree and told her as much. But she hasn't ridden her bike and won't until after the class is over.
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: Awaz on June 24, 2011, 03:23:36 PM
Question on lane splitting. Do any of you do it on a Connie with those hanging out that far?
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: tonedeaf on June 24, 2011, 10:20:02 PM
I really like Number 8: Lay it Down.

I think this one got started by people riding 50's and 60's era Triumphs (sort of the zenith of the demise of British manufacturing). This myth was gospel with these bikes. These bikes were my introduction to riding and I think in this case there was some truth to the myth -- the bikes had such abominable brakes that I think you really could stop faster by using friction with the asphalt to stop instead of the brakes.

 ;)
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: Conrad on June 25, 2011, 07:11:36 AM
Question on lane splitting. Do any of you do it on a Connie with those hanging out that far?

Not in Illinois we don't.
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: Bradley14 on June 25, 2011, 06:32:04 PM
sounds logical
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: joelberg on June 26, 2011, 04:07:37 PM
Question on lane splitting. Do any of you do it on a Connie with those hanging out that far?
Yes.  Every day.
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: mikeboileau on June 26, 2011, 04:10:38 PM
Lane splitting would scare the hell out of me.....no way.
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: jbailey on June 26, 2011, 09:19:53 PM
The amazing thing is that this comes from "Cruiser" magazine.  Aren't their readers the ones who disagree with this the most?  Maybe this will help convince some of the cruiser types.  Unfortunately, probably will fall on deaf ears.  :o
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: anycleavers on June 27, 2011, 05:42:31 PM
Look around their site, there are some other well written pieces. Just goes to show, the 'cruiser' stereotype is a myth.
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: manowarwi on June 27, 2011, 07:51:24 PM
It's actually the un-helmeted rider who is likely to cross from animal to vegetable kingdom, and often from a relatively minor impact that would have damaged nothing but his ego if he'd been wearing a DOT helmet.

Read more: http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/streetsurvival/dangerous_motorcycle_safety_myths/index.html#ixzz1QX0B3xEK (http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/streetsurvival/dangerous_motorcycle_safety_myths/index.html#ixzz1QX0B3xEK)


I know, its a very serious subject, but the line about crossing from animal to vegetable kingdom made me chuckle!

Overall it is a very good article!
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: mikeboileau on June 27, 2011, 08:01:31 PM
I have trouble with the lane sharing thing.....
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: MiniCog on June 27, 2011, 08:11:04 PM
I liked it, good collection.  It seems like they really stressed the helmet thing (Good subject though, more people need to wear their gear).
It's actually the un-helmeted rider who is likely to cross from animal to vegetable kingdom, and often from a relatively minor impact that would have damaged nothing but his ego if he'd been wearing a DOT helmet.

I know, its a very serious subject, but the line about crossing from animal to vegetable kingdom made me chuckle!

yeah, I found that pretty amusing, hahaha.   :D
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: Cholla on June 28, 2011, 07:40:22 AM
The cruiser stereotype is a myth?
There sure are a lot of myths riding around!
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: Boonedawg on June 28, 2011, 08:14:19 AM
I coach youth athletics and the other day a parent overheard me talking about one of our rides.  She came up and said: "I'm surprised you ride a motorcycle, it's really dangerous".  I just smiled and asked her to count how many bikes she see's on the road where the rider is wearing shorts, athletic shoes, no helmet and tank top OH and TWO UP with the same attire. 

I saw her the other day, she actually approached me, she couldn't believe how many "unprotected" riders there are on the road.   I explained to her that when we ride we are in full gear and that it is not a guarantee and how we try to do things when we ride that tilt the scales in our favor.  I also commented about the amount of motorcycle fatalities we read about and asked her: "how many of those do you think were "geared up""?  She definitely understood where I was going.  I can't imagine sliding across the ashphalt on a HOT summers day with my wife sliding too Unprotected......  I DON'T GET IT!!!!  If you hit the pavement @ 70 mph "naked" your chances have to be slim.
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: Conrad on June 28, 2011, 09:11:07 AM
The cruiser stereotype is a myth?
There sure are a lot of myths riding around!

(http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/106931115/877319)
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: ManWorkinghere on June 28, 2011, 10:13:48 AM
Question on lane splitting. Do any of you do it on a Connie with those hanging out that far?
Nope.

I added Murph's tipover bars, front and rear.  And then, I added Kuryakin foot pegs sticking out from the front bars for added comfort.

No way am I going to lanesplit in Wisconsin because I'd probably hit a snowplow up here.  :)
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: snarf on June 28, 2011, 01:15:13 PM
Question on lane splitting. Do any of you do it on a Connie with those hanging out that far?
The mirrors stick out farther than the bags
Title: Re: The Deadly Dozen: 12 Motorcycle Safety Myths and Misconceptions
Post by: mikeboileau on June 28, 2011, 01:33:06 PM
Nope.

I added Murph's tipover bars, front and rear.  And then, I added Kuryakin foot pegs sticking out from the front bars for added comfort.

No way am I going to lanesplit in Wisconsin because I'd probably hit a snowplow up here.  :)


The drivers would run us off the road!