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Offline gildaguz

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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2018, 09:38:16 AM »
With those angled valve stem is easy to mount the sensor using a bracket, just a little bit  of imagination
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2018, 11:06:28 AM »
Any difficulties balancing the wheel?
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2018, 05:23:16 PM »
Any difficulties balancing the wheel?
Wayne
it does not make any difference
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2018, 08:39:07 PM »
Good, do not forget, as you will not find in the tool menu the option, for Kawasaki motorcycles just find a brand and model of. Vehicle that the tool. be able to read the Kawasaki OEM sensor identification number and under same menu input that information to the generic sensor
2009 Mazda 3 worked for me but there should be moore

I decided to check this process out just for the heck of it.  My bike has 433MHz sensors so I bought an Autel 433 MX sensor plus their MaxiPad for reading/programming/cloning.  I also have KDS3 and a coupla spare early stock sensors into which I'd fitted new batteries.  Following gildagauz' comment in reply #18 I entered the Autel sensor's ID into the Kipass ECU after I'd found a vehicle which read the genuine Kaw sensor as detailed below and programmed the Autel sensor to suit the vehicle, 'tested' it using the Autel feature, did the' propeller thing' as outlined below and got no reading.

The Autel MaxiPad read the stock sensor ID ok - after I had gone thru about 50 'vehicles' on its data base to find one that would read it - so I copied and programmed the Kaw sensor into the new generic sensor.  Using the 'test' feature of the MaxiPad it showed that the new sensor did in fact have the same ID number as the Kaw sensor.

Using KDS I programmed that spare Kaw sensor into the bike's Kipass ECU, did the 'propeller thing' with the sensor on a piece of cord for 75 seconds until the bike's display showed the flat tyre warning and 0 psi. I turned the ignition off.  I then put the cloned Autel sensor on the cord, gave it a whirl for a couple of minutes and - nothing.  I turned the ignition off.  I then repeated the whirling with the Kaw sensor - flat tyre warning and 0 psi.  So I did it again with the cloned sensor for a bit longer without success.

All this after recently 'playing' with 2 new 433MHz LDL sensors from a TireWatch kit, which look identical to the early Kaw sensor. Surprisingly, neither of the new LDL replacement 'kit' sensors worked on my bike after the ID number was programmed into the KIPASS ECU with KDS.  I contacted the supplier of the TireWatch kit who contacted the factory in France as to why this is so, to be told that the 'baud rate' of Kaw sensors and the kit sensors is different even tho the frequency is the same and the 8 digit ID number is similar alpha-numeric.

Doing some Googling I found this interesting thread which seems to explain why non-OEM sensors will not work.

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-goldwing-technical-forum/468273-gl1800-tpms-possibility.html

So, after reading back thru this thread, my question to gildaguz is:  did you actually get the generic 315MHz sensor to function correctly in a C14?  I ask this in light of your reply #18 wherein you write: yes it come with a 6 digits ID that can be overwrite  and  for you that have that tool you can  write that number to the KIPAS ECU and it must work'      

I have a Schrader programmable sensor 'in the mail' to give it a try, as that's the brand you used.  Stay tuned in the New Year.

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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2019, 03:44:03 AM »
I received the Schrader a few days ago.  I found a 'vehicle' that would read the 315MHz sensor data using the Autel Maxi TPMS Pad but have been unable to read the 433MHz data as yet.  I've emailed Schrader about it but have had no response - as yet.  I think 'I'm wasting my sweetness on the desert air' to quote a poet I just can't recall right now.
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2019, 03:26:05 PM »
I received the Schrader a few days ago.  I found a 'vehicle' that would read the 315MHz sensor data using the Autel Maxi TPMS Pad but have been unable to read the 433MHz data as yet.  I've emailed Schrader about it but have had no response - as yet.  I think 'I'm wasting my sweetness on the desert air' to quote a poet I just can't recall right now.
So, after reading back thru this thread, my question to gildaguz is:  did you actually get the generic 315MHz sensor to function correctly in a C14?  I ask this in light of your reply #18 wherein you write: yes it come with a 6 digits ID that can be overwrite  and  for you that have that tool you can  write that number to the KIPAS ECU and it must work'     
I am sorry but been away from the forum for a while
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2019, 04:56:14 PM »
Thanks GG.  I haven't heard back from Schrader, will give them another try/
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2019, 02:59:48 PM »



Can anyone tell me why the OEM  TPMS is marked " 315/433 Mhz" ?

How or why does it operate on both frequencies ?

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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2019, 05:27:09 PM »

Can anyone tell me why the OEM  TPMS is marked " 315/433 Mhz" ?

How or why does it operate on both frequencies ?

maybe because that picture is not an OEM....?

this whole scenario, is once again being discussed on the COG forum, and it deals with the Autel sensor, and programmer... and the problems associated with making it work...

currently, we have no solution, maybe one will miraculously appear, but I'm not doing the "breath hold"...


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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2019, 09:11:20 PM »
Thanks GG.  I haven't heard back from Schrader, will give them another try/

Just to report back that there's nothing more to report from me.  I tried two different email addresses for Schrader, one in USA and one in Europe as I recall, and received no replies. 
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