EMULATORS

[sas mayhem]

I'm tellin ya, drill the pop off valve, it makes a ton of difference over small stuff. I can't even feel transitions in the pavement, no bad effects at all - Steve

Steve I'm going to give that a shot, next weekend.   

[Centex]

I'm 220 lbs now on my way to 200ish.  Would that be a factor?

Cheers
Ron

I've been lurking this thread to learn and never saw a reply to this question, so I'll try again ...

How much are these tuning suggestions related to rider weight(s)?  I've seen pics of a couple of the folks replying and they're a bit more "healthy" than my 175+gear  .  Not sure if y'all are frequent 2-uppers, either?

Blue springs and drilled pop-off still the appropriate starting point for us punier specimens that are strictly solo riders?

[Strawboss]

Drill the actual emulators, I never really looked to see how many holes are in mine, they are a year old. Backing out the pre-load really helped though. Guess I got something to do this weekend.

[Steve in Sunny Fla]

Blue springs and drilled pop-off still the appropriate starting point for us punier specimens that are strictly solo riders?

ahhhh I got ya by 100, and that's the best setup I've tried - and I do ride 2 up - Steve

[Strawboss]

No mention here about the PVC spacers in the forks with the emulators.

[sas mayhem]

No mention here about the PVC spacers in the forks with the emulators.

My springs came with aluminum spacers to take up the space, since the springs Race Tech springs are a lot shorter. But I have read that people use PVC piping instead of metal.

Cheers
Ron

[Strawboss]

You got aluminum spacers? Cool. Just used some stuff laying around with washers on each end, can't remember the length,maybe about 6 inches or so? Not sure if the length would affect the ride.

[sas mayhem]

You got aluminum spacers? Cool. Just used some stuff laying around with washers on each end, can't remember the length,maybe about 6 inches or so? Not sure if the length would affect the ride.

Yep !!! There where packed with the springs, but I know PCV piping will work.  And when everything was said and done the spacers where almost even with the top of the forks. Give and take a few mm.

Cheers
Ron

[Strawboss]

Yes, mine too, even with the top.

[sas mayhem]

Also to add, thee disc that came on the earlier kits had one hole in it.  The newer kits have two holes and two indentation to drill two more holes to further tweak. But of course you can drill the earlier disc if need be.  The hole size is approx 7/67th. And the disc is pretty soft metal, so a simple cordless drill would make short order of it.

The disc on the left is what I had, two holes and two indentations, and the one on the right is after I added two more holes.
 After I get me ZZR shock installed I'll let you all know how it rides.
 FYI, I installed the blue spring and went 3 turns on the preload also. I'm 220 lbs, so I split the difference between 2 turns preload and 4 turns preload.


Cheers
Ron

[Steve in Sunny Fla]

you're going to find the front end smoother over broken pavement, etc... let us know - steve

[George R. Young]

After all this palaver, I dug out one of my emulators, it's been a while since they were installed.

Allen key 9/64", nut 5/16", not the most convenient sizes in the metric world

Valve plate 16mm, 1 hole ~3/32 / <3mm

Spring
free length 1 1/16" 28.5mm
OD 3/8" 9.5mm
ID 1/4" 6mm therefore wire dia. = ~1/16"

# active coils 9


No paint on the springs.

Based on these imprecise measurements, it calculates out to 69 lb/in, approx. a yellow 64 lb/in
http://www.racingsuspensionproducts.com/spring%20rate.htm

I've been using 15W oil, 1.0 Kg/mm springs, 2 turns preload. Sounds like I should try blue springs and a few more holes in the valves?

[Steve in Sunny Fla]

That sounds like how mine was setup originally. Those are the first release emulators, the later ones have 2 holes. I'm running 4 holes and 2 turns on the blue springs. 15 wt and cut stock springs w/ spacers. the springs and oil are the same as my original setup, the only difference was to emulator tunig. what a HUGE difference! Give it a try - you won't be disappointed - steve