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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2016, 08:10:08 PM »
I reported it last year on my side of the world (Australia) to the federal Authorities and detailed the saga in the link further up this thread. I was the first here to do so.  Another owner here reported it in the last month or two (the second formal report). The official answer is: 'isolated failures due to poor maintenance' - but that doesn't explain the failure of the warning system, just the hydraulics. 
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2016, 11:13:56 AM »
I had the same problem a couple years a go
And yes, was "The hidraulyc ABS Unit"
The Unit had to be disassemble and repaired.

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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2016, 12:33:53 PM »
Did you know what they did to it?
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2016, 01:06:59 PM »
Not really, but I'll tray to find it out in detail  and traslate (hard part).
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2016, 02:37:51 PM »
Thanks.  Any information on this will be extremely appreciated.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2016, 09:08:37 AM »
I brought mine to a somewhat local dealer here.  Turns out the ABS pump had blocked, despite the brake fluid being changed 3x since the bike was new.  I will post more info when I get the bike back.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2016, 09:59:15 AM »
Thanks for the update. 
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2016, 12:11:08 PM »
Well, I wanted to update this post. I just got my bike back from the dealer. I brought it in on 2/25 to have it diagnosed, and sure enough, it was the ABS pump. I did let the service writer know that I know that more than a few people have had the same problem, so he told me that he was going to call Kawasaki and see if they could do anything for me. Kawasaki did want to know if the brake fluid had ever been changed, which it had with the 3 rear pad changes (luckily I know the previous owner well!) So, Kawasaki offered to replace the $1300 ABS pump for free out of warranty labor included, and they even told the dealership to refund my diagnostic fee. The only BAD part about this, I was without my bike for two weeks. So, yeah, that part was a bummer, but, I didn't have to pay out of pocket for the repair!
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2016, 02:05:22 PM »
That is excellent news indeed! Thanks for updating us on the end result.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2016, 02:21:26 PM »
Was it fixed on Ma Kaw's dime or did you have an extended warranty in effect?

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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2016, 03:10:11 PM »
Was it fixed on Ma Kaw's dime or did you have an extended warranty in effect?

So, Kawasaki offered to replace the $1300 ABS pump for free out of warranty labor included, and they even told the dealership to refund my diagnostic fee.


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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2016, 03:53:41 PM »
I see said the blind man.

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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2016, 04:04:26 PM »
I see said the blind man.

as he picked up his hammer and saw.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2016, 06:00:47 PM »
That was my experience too BigEd, as you may have read on the Australian forum. 

What now needs to be done is to report the issue to your national vehicle safety authority, in the interest of other riders and road users.   


Please note my comments towards the end of reply 17 & 20.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2016, 07:43:36 PM »
That was my experience too BigEd, as you may have read on the Australian forum. 

What now needs to be done is to report the issue to your national vehicle safety authority, in the interest of other riders and road users.   


Please note my comments towards the end of reply 17 & 20.

Noted and done.  I still have yet to hear from the NHTSA, though.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2016, 10:15:12 PM »
Thank you sir.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2016, 02:44:43 PM »
just answered this question on other forum about parts interchange...

differences between 08-09 and 2010 abs parts...

they do differ,
wheel rotor sensor differs also, that's where the signal comes from in pulses being sensed...
08 front is. 21007-0068   ROTOR,SENSOR,FR
16082-0023   PUMP-ASSY-OIL,WET TYPE

21007-0069   ROTOR,SENSOR,RR
21176-0076   SENSOR,SPEED,RR


2010 is
21007-0140   ROTOR,SENSOR,FR
16082-0041   PUMP-ASSY-OIL,WET TYPE
21007-0141   ROTOR,SENSOR,RR
21176-0131   SENSOR,SPEED,RR

hope this helps, maybe a sticky is in order to preserve this?

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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2016, 05:57:19 AM »
What's involved in replacing the ABS pump and time?
It think mine has gone out, NO movement on rear brake lever totally froze.
I'm at work now. My service manual is at home

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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2016, 08:54:02 AM »
Check with your Kawasaki dealership before you tear into it your self.  They have still been replacing them at no cost to the owner. 

It's also the ABS pump that they replace, and that's not cheap, somewhere to the tune of $800+ if bought from Kawi.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2016, 07:58:08 PM »
Ron, read the thread and links the do as BigEd suggests.
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