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The C10, aka Kawasaki Concours - The Original => The Bike - C10 => Topic started by: gpineau on January 16, 2019, 07:21:14 PM

Title: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on January 16, 2019, 07:21:14 PM
Whats the going price for a not running C10?
Looking on craigs list there are not many C10s near me.
This is all I could find. https://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/d/denver-86-kawasaki-zg1000/6786764744.html
Is it worth $800? I am thinking $400?
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: connie_rider on January 17, 2019, 08:54:45 AM
In the shape it's in, maybe $400; If it were running, and you needed it for parts it might be worth $600-$800. {maybe}

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: sport rider on January 17, 2019, 09:28:23 AM
I paid $350 for mine.  plastics were with it, but not good enough to resell for much.  tank had some rust.  it was not running, but overall was ok.  I've got some odds and ends parts which might earn me a little bit to offset the $, but honestly not counting on much.

this pic is what I got to after stripping all the parts off.  I replaced the front end with a ZRX 1100 front end I already had.  I replaced the rear wheel with a meanstreak which I already had.

In some ways you save some time because this one is already stripped.  as long as all the pieces are there which you want to use, you might consider it worth a few hours of your time not to have to get it to this point.  I would not pay anywhere near 800 for that bike at the point the seller has it.  that seat has to go and be replaced by something that looks nice.  the headlight/brackets is not there yet.  the rear brake/running light is crap.  turn signals added back on.  I'd bet money you'll easily spend about a grand getting this to what you want it to be.  I'm on that same kind of track.  the second pic is a mock up of what I want to get to.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: sport rider on January 17, 2019, 07:00:10 PM
That's a good start. Post some more pictures as you progress.

I am of the opinion that if the bike is not running you cant ask more than a few hundred. And not running in that shape it is in I would worry about bent rods and carb parts missing.
I think I a going to pass on this one or give him a low ball offer.

I have another thread going about it.  it includes putting pod filters on it just to get everyone's dander up.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: Rick Hall on January 18, 2019, 12:07:24 AM
I'm sorry, I'm old, I've built countless amounts of bikes... this drama crap gets fuggin old.


Maybe you can now take a pill and chill the F out... dood. The masses have contacted the Borg Collective.

Just sayin ;)

Rick
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on January 18, 2019, 08:36:15 AM

I'm sorry, I'm old, I've built countless amounts of bikes... this drama crap gets fuggin old.

man, I'm at the reaches of my rope.

Actually the project I had in mind was building a trike for my wife so she can ride with me.
     (https://scontent.fapa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49370366_2521452057866962_4715900870129090560_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fapa1-2.fna&oh=f5a2fe3d2c978fb20bb957bc9b2f73bd&oe=5CB91756)

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BUT....  If  doing an EFI retrofit on it would really annoy you then that is what I will endeavor to do
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: B.D.F. on January 18, 2019, 08:57:37 AM
Ah, the MOB motivational method at work.

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Not poking either one of youse guize about this but that response (from gpineau) just struck me as hysterical. :-)

Brian (Rich has not motivated me to do anything..... so far)

Actually the project I had in mind was building a trike for my wife so she can ride with me.
     (https://scontent.fapa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49370366_2521452057866962_4715900870129090560_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fapa1-2.fna&oh=f5a2fe3d2c978fb20bb957bc9b2f73bd&oe=5CB91756)

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BUT....  If  doing an EFI retrofit on it would really annoy you then that is what I will endeavor to do
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 18, 2019, 11:57:18 AM
Maybe you can now take a pill and chill the F out... dood. The masses have contacted the Borg Collective.

Just sayin ;)

Rick


Now look what you've gone and done, Rich.  You've poked the bear.  My advice is to follow Rick's advice



Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on January 18, 2019, 01:58:08 PM
Maybe you can now take a pill and chill the F out... dood. The masses have contacted the Borg Collective.

Just sayin ;)

Rick


10-4.

Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on January 30, 2019, 02:28:58 PM
Yeeee Haa!
Just got off the phone with him. The bike is mine....
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: sport rider on January 30, 2019, 02:56:42 PM
is it actually missing the carbs, or just off?  Curious to see what you decide with the seat.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on January 30, 2019, 03:01:30 PM
The carbs are in a box along with all the other things he had removed.

 He said he had it running good but suddenly he had a little fire under the tank and it melted some of the hoses and vacuum lines on the carburetors.  I got a sweet deal he really was looking to unload it.

I'll take inventory when I get it home.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on February 01, 2019, 07:06:51 PM
Well I got it home. Not much to work with.  No air box. It was using filter pods. Seat is cut in half an no way to mount it.  Carbs are in a box.  Just about a minimum a bike as you can get.    Really cant tell yet but I think it is lower than my other one. Pipes are not stock. I don't know what they are  just not stock.
Without the plastics and the fenders it is a lot lighter than my other Connie.
Only special thing about it is the tank. Someone put a lot of work into it. I is either chrome plated or someone spend days polishing bare metal. 
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: sport rider on February 02, 2019, 10:21:43 AM
it's a start!
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on February 15, 2019, 10:37:08 PM
It is still sitting where i left it. Its too cold to get anything done so I spent a week in George Town Grand Cayman.  ;D

Maybe it because all the plastics are gone but it seem to be sitting lower than my other Connie.  I'll have to measure  to be sure.

I was walking through the garage and had a thought ...I wonder if it will start? Well certainly not without carbs. But I had a can of starter fluid. So I gave it a couple squirts and hit the starter switch.  No  hesitation. It roared to life and man it is loud. There is no baffles at all in the pipes.  Fixing that will be the first thing I will do to it. I can't stand it the way is is now. It is deafening.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: connie_rider on February 16, 2019, 07:10:32 AM
It's a shame about the loud, but great news about the start!

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on February 16, 2019, 08:26:18 AM
Its not big problem. I have already started the fix.  I had the same problem on one of my magna's where the previous owner removed the baffles. It was too loud to ride in my neighborhood.
 
just takes a couple hours and $25 .
https://youtu.be/vO12cpKhgi4
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: sport rider on February 18, 2019, 11:49:29 AM
It is still sitting where i left it. Its too cold to get anything done so I spent a week in George Town Grand Cayman.  ;D

Maybe it because all the plastics are gone but it seem to be sitting lower than my other Connie.  I'll have to measure  to be sure.

I was walking through the garage and had a thought ...I wonder if it will start? Well certainly not without carbs. But I had a can of starter fluid. So I gave it a couple squirts and hit the starter switch.  No  hesitation. It roared to life and man it is loud. There is no baffles at all in the pipes.  Fixing that will be the first thing I will do to it. I can't stand it the way is is now. It is deafening.

Dude....don't you know loud pipes save lives?  :D
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on February 19, 2019, 11:19:22 AM
Loud pipes save lives...and also get your reported to the HomeOwners Association.

My neighbor next door said it's not that big a deal just drive faster than the speed of sound and no one will know it's you.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: sport rider on February 19, 2019, 11:45:45 AM
that's why I moved out of an HOA and will NEVER live in another one.  I keep my boat parked in the driveway and my motorcycle trailer on the side of the house.  :)
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 19, 2019, 03:14:40 PM
There's a guy with a Mustang that has louder pipes than my Indian.  Leaves home every morning at 630am.  No need to set an alarm.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on March 25, 2019, 03:33:16 PM
BTW and off topic... has anyone dealt with making an injected molded part? (another project i got roped into).
I have a prototype part about the size of a bic lighter.  I need to make about a thousand of them.  (cheap)
I don't know where to start.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gPink on March 25, 2019, 05:10:12 PM
can you print them?
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on March 25, 2019, 05:17:59 PM
That's how I made the prototypes.

But they take a couple hours and they are not that great of quality. printed parts always have that rough texture. 
I need a thousand of them so printing is not feasible. 

Anyone? send me a PM.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on July 10, 2019, 06:45:25 PM
I just got back form a long vacation in China.
The trike kit I had my eye on craigslist has been sold. I didn't want to pay $1800 for it and was waiting for a price reduction.  Oh well there will be others.

Meanwhile I am going to annoy some people here and start modifying my Cafe-Racer/bobber ( I don't know what to call it yet) )   to EFI.

 8)
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: tweeter55 on July 10, 2019, 08:35:04 PM


Meanwhile I am going to annoy some people here and start modifying my Cafe-Racer/bobber ( I don't know what to call it yet) )   to EFI.  8)
Go ahead and annoy away.  ;) ;) :stirpot:
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on September 12, 2019, 01:21:13 PM
Awfully quiet here lately.
Anything new?

I spent the summer with west Nile virus and vertigo. Felling good enough the last few day do some work on my Rat-Rod.  It has set there all summer leaking oil out the timing cover.  pulled the cover and cleaned off the old gunk and replaced it. The leak stopped.

Got a new battery, changed the oil and filter and started wondering what to do with it? I had started an EFI conversion before I got sick but now it is time to finish it or go back to stock.

Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: connie_rider on September 13, 2019, 06:52:30 AM
Hopefully your feeling better..
I haven't been monitoring your progress on the C-10 EFI.
Any progress??

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on September 13, 2019, 08:28:00 PM
Hey Ted, thanks for the concern and the interest.

They say the some people have zero symptoms from west Nile virus but for me I have been down for a couple of months. I still have vertigo but it is not as bad now. I stood on a chair to change a light bulb and my wife had to stand beside me to steady me so I didn't fall. Never felt like this before but it is getting inch-wise better every day.

I got a package from China today and now my Rat-Rod has a new headlight and turn signals.  It make a big difference in the looks.

 Also I got some stock mufflers for it and tossed the cherry-bombs.

Almost forgot I drill through the frame and what is left of the seat and managed to get it firmly attached to the bike.  I know the suspension  has been altered because I can stand on the balls of my feet and hold the bike level. I am not able to do that on my other Connie.

I need to make new harnesses for the lamps, signals and oh, just realized there is no horn or speedo or tach.. Whoever started this butchered the harnesses.

If all goes well and with good luck an weather, I'm thinking  another two weeks work and I may have a running bike.   

The title is from out of state so I need to get all the lamps, and signals, and horn, brakes etc.. working because before the let me tag and title it  I must take it to the Sheriffs  office for an inspection and VIN verification.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: works4me on September 13, 2019, 09:59:55 PM
Why is there a buckle on the air box?
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: connie_rider on September 14, 2019, 08:17:18 AM
Looks like it's starting to come together.
Like the nekkid look and the bars/headlight/blinkers...

Tried to see what is lowered in the rear and can't see.
 Assuming it has a lowering rocker?

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on September 16, 2019, 06:30:32 PM
Wasted a whole day trying to trace the wiring for the turn signals and the horn.  When the key is on one side of the horn goes to +12v. When I push the horn button I get a single squeak and then nothing. I think the ground is loose or dirty. I can see the negative side of the horn go low but it does not go all the way to ground.  And if i measure continuity between the horn button and ground I get a couple ohms. Not ground like I expect it to be.  Still don't know where the ground for the horn comes from.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on September 17, 2019, 02:58:31 PM
Discovered why nothing electrical is working.
I removed some electrical tape on a harness buried in the front end. Found 10 wires cut off.
 God what was he thinking. I guess he never intended to put lights of any kind on the front.

Dont know if it worth patching this all back together or just make a new harness to suit my lights.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: sport rider on September 18, 2019, 07:54:14 AM
probably better off buying a used harnass.  I hate electrical!
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: connie_rider on September 18, 2019, 08:37:50 AM
Prolly easiest to get a harness, if you can find one for that year/period.
I think this is an 87? If so, their wired a bit different than later years.
I think 86-90 would be ok.

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on September 18, 2019, 01:13:14 PM
Its a 1986 model. It has this weird black box thingy called reserve lighting device. the is in the middle of the headlight wiring. I think most of the cut wires were going to the dashboard which no longer exists.  I think he just clipped off the connector that goes to the dash.... If I buy the dashboard with harness I may be able to splice this back together.

Also missing or hidden is the turn signal flasher relay. I can find it anywhere. Anyone can  tell me where is usually located?

I have the horns working now. That was a bad ground but I still cant get the headlights or turn signals to work.

Just order a complete main harness off ebay. Also ordered a dashboard while I was at it.  hope it all fits.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on October 09, 2019, 05:52:34 PM
Old harness removed and new harness installed.
I got a a 1999 dash and an 86 harness so I will need to swap a few wires around going into the dash.

MAIN PURPOSE FOR THIS POST.....where does the turn signal flasher plug in? there is no socket for it on the harness so I am thinking it must be a separate small harness connected to the front lights. But the whole front end of this bike was missing so I really don't know for sure. The schematics show a plug for it but I cant find it?

Anyone?
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: Boomer on October 10, 2019, 01:55:49 AM
The turn signal relay connects to a sub-harness that does the headlight, front turn signals, turn signal relay, etc.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4mYAAOSwmUdUXngJ/s-l1600.jpg)

I've attached a better quality wiring diagram which is useful if ya don't have it already.
Have also attached Guy's "simplified" wiring diagram as that it also useful. :-)
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on October 10, 2019, 11:52:20 AM
Thanks a bunch. I figured it had be be something like that because the harness I had did not have any connectors that would fit the flasher, headlight and clock...etc

Found one on ebay last night and it is on its way now.
 
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on October 10, 2019, 03:43:55 PM
The turn signal relay connects to a sub-harness that does the headlight, front turn signals, turn signal relay, etc.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4mYAAOSwmUdUXngJ/s-l1600.jpg)

I've attached a better quality wiring diagram which is useful if ya don't have it already.
Have also attached Guy's "simplified" wiring diagram as that it also useful. :-)

Boomer, what model is the schematic you attached? Euro post '94 ?
it isn't a USA model, as seen by the "city Light", the headlight switch that allows light to be turned off, and the "passing light switch"...

Not sure how much that is gonna help him, there appears to be a few differences, especially with the headlight system on a USA version "  PRE -'94 " bike...

also I think Guy's simplified schema, is post '94 also...

He installed an '86 wire harness, which will not directly mate up with a '99 gauge cluster either...(not to mention the '99 cluster won't mount in an '86 fairing)
The addition of the "emergency headlight system" on pre '94 models adds even more issues when trying to "counteract/remove' that particular device. (i.e. it can't be taken out of the circuit without compensation.)
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on October 10, 2019, 04:26:07 PM
the schematic he needs is attached below.. needs to be downloaded, in order to blow it up enough to read.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on October 10, 2019, 07:56:33 PM
Thanks. guys,I understand.
 
I have schematics for all the models and I can see the differences between the 99 Dash I have and the 86 harness I bought off ebay. I can move some wires around and make it work or get a dash that matches the harness.

There is one connector that I will need to change from 3 pin to 4 pin. I have matching connectors in my parts box. 

As a last resort I found a compatible dash for $39.

Thanks again for the help. I was lost looking for something to plug the flasher relay into !
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: Boomer on October 11, 2019, 01:08:15 AM
Boomer, what model is the schematic you attached? Euro post '94 ?
it isn't a USA model, as seen by the "city Light", the headlight switch that allows light to be turned off, and the "passing light switch"...

Not sure how much that is gonna help him, there appears to be a few differences, especially with the headlight system on a USA version "  PRE -'94 " bike...

also I think Guy's simplified schema, is post '94 also...

He installed an '86 wire harness, which will not directly mate up with a '99 gauge cluster either...(not to mention the '99 cluster won't mount in an '86 fairing)
The addition of the "emergency headlight system" on pre '94 models adds even more issues when trying to "counteract/remove' that particular device. (i.e. it can't be taken out of the circuit without compensation.)

Hi Rich, I believe my wiring diagram is for the "Other than USA & Canada" 86-93 model since that is what I have (89).
In my Service Manual, it's the only wiring diagram in colour so it's the one I "merged" so I don't have to try to read across 2 pages.
No, it won't be exactly like the US one, but it's easy enough to see the differences and you forgot to mention the front running lights in the turn-signals, which we don't have in the RotW (Rest of the World) either  :thumbs:

I mostly use Guys diagram to know what is what inside the J-Box, although that is also slightly different for the RotW bikes and between 86-93 and 94+.  ;D
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on October 25, 2019, 05:15:09 PM
Got around to un-boxing the sub-harness for the headlights. Screwed again. They sent the wrong harness.  This one is for a 94 and I need an 86 harness. I could cut it up and make it work but why should I? I paid for an 86 sub-harness and they sent the wrong one so I am sending it back.

So I hope to have a replacement next week.
Meanwhile I removed the Air/exhaust valves on top of the valve cover and plugged the holes.  I was going to get some coil-on-plugs but wow they are expensive. Ditched the stock coils. That was to make room for my new smart coils. They look really cool bolted to the top of the engine and a lot less expensive than the cops.

I had stored the gas tank outside in a garbage bag but the sun baked it. The bag fell apart now the nice shiny tank is covered with rust spots. I will re-sand it and give it primer coat to keep it safe until I decide what color it is going to be. I have some Yamaha silver that looked real nice on the majesty 400 that i used to have.

I really want to go for a ride down to the DMV and get the inspection but I must make it street legal first. The sheriff will check all factory accessories and the VIN number an it all has to be in working order before I can tag it.

Getting expensive but I'm enjoying tinkering. Have not tallied the money I've spent on this but I hope my wife does not find out.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: connie_rider on October 25, 2019, 07:14:37 PM
I agree. Momma's not going to be impressed...
On the other hand; to me,,, all looks good so far.

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on November 04, 2019, 03:26:57 PM
WARNING. do not buy the cheap Chinese headlight like I did. The bulb burned out in 5 minutes, the size is weird and I couldn't find anything at the parts store the same size. Also the front turn signals do not come with running lights only for turn signals.

Finally got the correct sub harness for the front end. Nearly street legal now. The front running lights, turn signals and headlights works. Still need tail lights and turn signals for the rear.
 So I tossed all of it in the trash and went and robbed my Honda Magna for headlights and front turn signals.

I am staying away from Chinese websites for a while.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: connie_rider on November 06, 2019, 05:38:07 AM
Thaks for sharing that.
It's a good learning for others.

Ride safe, Ted

Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on December 15, 2019, 03:10:03 PM
I was ready to paint and install the tank. Darn-it. Last spring I had this tank polished to a mirror finish. I stored it away in a trash bag. I was going to paint it today but...The Sun destroyed the trash bag and now it is covered in rust. Itried CLR and a buffing pad but the rust is too thick. I had to resort to a wire brush.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: connie_rider on December 16, 2019, 10:07:17 AM
Oh noooooo..

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: Boomer on December 16, 2019, 02:13:40 PM
Bare steel will rust unless yer in the desert. Even then, it does rain occasionally even in the desert.
If leaving it bare when storing it, ya need to coat it with oil, pack it away carefully, and maybe seal a dehumidifier pack in with it. Better yet, hit it with etch primer and a couple of coats of grey primer before storing it.  ;D
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on December 16, 2019, 02:53:03 PM
a comedy of errors, based on poor planning, and very substantial lack of diligence, really becomes a point where you have to go "what next?"..
I don't think I would have stored a bare metal gas tank, in a sealed garbage bag, in some environment that would have the bag deteriorate within less than a year ; Like outdoors... (the local dumps say this stuff never rots..yeah, it does.. ), let alone not adding a couple bags $total 3$ of white rice to absorb moisture, and hung it inside somewhere.. and prevent rusting.. after stripping the tank to "bare", a 20 minute expense of time, and a $4 can of primer, would have prevented this all...  I realize we are not all "wizards" when it comes to this stuff, but by the same token, it becomes hard to feel sorry for someone, when they really don't use good judgement.
I guess most of us that engage/do this for a hobby, take a few more precautions, as poor decisions result in major complaining from spouses.. and God knows, we NEVER want to hear that from them.... bt/dt/

sorry to hear about your misfortune, I think you may learn from the experience.. after you re-sand and re-prep the tank, again.....
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gPink on December 16, 2019, 04:17:17 PM
Looks industrial...could of just clear coated it.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on December 17, 2019, 08:38:20 AM
Well thanks for all the praise and suggestions. I knew the right way to handle this and the proper thing to do would have been to hit it with primer right away.

Man Of Blues,  Nothing to do with good judgement. When your sister calls in the middle afternoon and says "Mom has fallen and broken her hip. The doctor has put her in hospice. You need to get here now. " 

There's no time to waste picking out paint let alone time to prime, paint and clear coat. So it went into a trash bag and I caught the next plane to Oklahoma. Spent the next 3 weeks watching my poor mother die.  I abandoned the entire project after mom died and just recently decided to restart it.  Thank you all for your sincere (tongue in cheek)  concern and compassion.   
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on December 17, 2019, 08:42:09 AM
It's got some orange peal in the clear coat. I will let it harden a few days then wet sand and polish. I think it was a little overkill for a 30 year old bike but if I'm going to do it I might as well take my time and make it look good. 

https://youtu.be/qGK_KGePtn0
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: tweeter55 on December 17, 2019, 05:52:56 PM
Looking forward to seeing the final results.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on December 17, 2019, 06:08:50 PM
looked at the vid, read about your paint, and adhere to the flash and hardening times for it...clear coat within those time frames, again adhering to the flash time, and re-coat times.
wet sanding flaked paint is a gamble, and may not lead to optimum results.. clear coats, like 4 or 6 of them, will give you something that can be sanded, and not ruin the flake aspect..  don't get agressive, start high in the grit count, and lower if needed.. don't go below 600G on a color coat... I've done a lot of metallic paint, and even flip=flop paints.. the clear coats are needed to build....'

Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on December 18, 2019, 06:45:30 PM
Thanks for the advice.

All done. I burned through the clear coat in a couple places but you have to hunt to find them. I make a few mistakes but in my eyes it looks marvelous. In fact it looks a bit out of place on this bike.

Have a look.  https://motostuff.shutterfly.com/pictures

     
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 18, 2019, 07:54:01 PM
Excellent!
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: Boomer on December 19, 2019, 03:13:00 AM
Nice  :thumbs:
Black is a difficult colour to get looking perfect.
That's why I chose Lime Green for my respray and the finish is nowhere near as good as yours.
For those who cannot see the images try this link  https://motostuff.shutterfly.com/pictures (https://motostuff.shutterfly.com/pictures) as the final character causes an error when I click your link.
Looking forward to seeing the assembled bike.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on December 19, 2019, 03:54:27 AM
Nice  :thumbs:
Black is a difficult colour to get looking perfect.
That's why I chose Lime Green for my respray and the finish is nowhere near as good as yours.

Looking forward to seeing the assembled bike.  :popcorn:

Me too! I would like to see it assembled. Just too many other things that keep me busy. I had the last 3 days all to myself to work on it.   I keep saying "in a couple weeks" but that was several weeks ago. I do wish I had the side fairings. It looks funny all naked like that and the tail is bobbed to boot. I hate to buy used off ebay cause I don't know what is compatible from year to year.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on December 19, 2019, 08:36:26 AM
 (ordered some side fairings to hide all the botched harnesses and ugly fasteners under the seat. I hope they fit.)

I think it is time to close this thread. 
After all I did find a project bike and got it somewhat in good shape. Its Christmas season so I don't think I am going to achieve anything major before the end of the year.

I will start a new thread when I get finished working on it.

Merry Christmas to everyone. Enjoy the holidays.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: sport rider on December 19, 2019, 09:52:07 AM
I'd like to see what you came up with on the side fairings.  maybe it's an idea I could use as well.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: Boomer on December 20, 2019, 02:02:22 AM
I hate to buy used off ebay cause I don't know what is compatible from year to year.
For the side fairings all years are interchangeable,as is the belly pan and the side covers (under the seat), and the tail piece.
The only fairing parts that are 86-93 or 94-06 specific are the fairing cowl, and all inner fairing parts.

On the side fairings the 86 and some 87s had screws that attached the "main vent" (see attached pic) but otherwise they mount to the bike the same.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: connie_rider on December 20, 2019, 07:13:32 AM
I think he's talking about the side panel under the seat.
If so, all are the same..

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on December 20, 2019, 08:21:40 AM
Yes, this is what I bought. I got just enough paint left to make them match.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on April 11, 2020, 09:14:06 PM
Just checked the Cam chain tensioner.  I dont know what I am looking at but it seems to be working. When I loosened the bolt on the end I expected a spring to come pushing out but instead nothing came out. I pulled it out to see what I had and it seems to be an earlier version than what I am used to. Instead of the spring pushing against the piston there is a screw gear inside of a cylinder. The cylinder is the tensioner.  So the screw slot engages with a spring that is wound inside the casing. You wind it up like a clock. Install it, then slowly let it unwind and it will push the piston out til it hits the cam chain.  You old timers probably know what i am talking about but it was a surprise to me. When it was in place I gave it a little extra twist to make sure it was against the cam chain.  At any rate it didnt seem to change the rat-tat-tat noise that i am hearing.
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: connie_rider on April 12, 2020, 05:00:51 PM
Didn't really hear a change on the video, but did hear what sounds like a valve tap.
Possibly a valve is out of adjustment, or adjusted came loose?

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Looking for a project bike.
Post by: gpineau on April 12, 2020, 07:25:36 PM
The change in sound happened about 5 minuted before I started the video.
It sounds a lot like the cam slapping the cam-follower. I hate to remove the valve cover but if it gets any louder I have no choice.