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Offline JhVenezuela

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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2014, 11:40:14 AM »
Thanks
I'll check as son as i finish my work.

By the way i tried to start the bike with my 2 FOB and does not work.
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2014, 11:57:43 AM »
That is unfortunate- this one may not be as easy as a fob battery change.

Do you have a voltmeter?

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Quote from: JhVenezuela on February 19, 2014, 11:40:14 AM
Thanks
I'll check as son as i finish my work.

By the way i tried to start the bike with my 2 FOB and does not work.
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2014, 12:12:06 PM »
Yes I have.
I'll do the other test when i be at home.
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2014, 12:16:58 PM »
Yeah, open the more forward fuse box, connect the negative lead of the voltmeter, and probe around (easy boys!) on all contacts inside the fuse box: you should see a nominal 12 volts on one side of one or more fuses. If not, there is no power getting to the bike and it may be the main fuse, a loose connection on the battery, frame or starter solenoid. But first, let's see if you have voltage at a fuse box at all.

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Quote from: JhVenezuela on February 19, 2014, 12:12:06 PM
Yes I have.
I'll do the other test when i be at home.
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2014, 06:54:45 PM »
All that i did was disconnect and reconnect the batery.
Then i listened the lovely "click" of the KiPass.

Thanks. !!!!
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2014, 08:13:09 PM »
All hail KIPASS!
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2014, 04:42:18 AM »
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2014, 04:58:07 AM »
This morning when i was commute the display show "Steering lock error"
But not problema at all.
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2014, 05:01:13 AM »
Did you get water in your switch?
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2014, 07:46:04 AM »
Quote from: gPink on February 20, 2014, 05:01:13 AM
Did you get water in your switch?

A Little maybe.
Last sunday I wash the bike.
But after that, the bike start up without problem.
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2014, 08:05:54 AM »
Quote from: JhVenezuela on February 20, 2014, 07:46:04 AM
A Little maybe.
Last sunday I wash the bike.
But after that, the bike start up without problem.
There's your problem.  ;)

The 'Steering Lock Error' is one I haven't heard about before. Did you have the steering locked? When did it show up?
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2014, 08:26:43 AM »
Quote from: gPink on February 20, 2014, 08:05:54 AM
There's your problem.  ;)

The 'Steering Lock Error' is one I haven't heard about before. Did you have the steering locked? When did it show up?

I was driving when the message Appeared flashing on the board.

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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2014, 08:33:52 AM »
Just a suggestion but I think I would continue around and tighten all the cables on the battery, the ground on the frame and the positive cable to the solenoid. It strikes me as odd that you had a bad battery cable and now get an error that I don't think anyone has ever seen before.

As far as washing, I have not found or heard that these bikes are very sensitive to water. You certainly may have a problem around the ignition switch but again, I would go back to the battery cables; we have seen quite a lot of problems originate there, including a lot of KiPass problems.  ::)

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Quote from: JhVenezuela on February 20, 2014, 08:26:43 AM
I was driving when the message Appeared flashing on the board.
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2014, 07:45:41 PM »
Never ever wash the bike, bad things will happen.   :_shudder_Emoticon
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2014, 04:58:23 AM »
Quote from: VirginiaJim on February 20, 2014, 07:45:41 PM
Never ever wash the bike, bad things will happen.   :_shudder_Emoticon

There you go, Jim. Just keep letting all the crud build up on your bike and you won't need those pesky Canyon Cages after all.    :thumbs:
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2014, 04:59:45 AM »
Quote from: gPink on February 20, 2014, 08:05:54 AM

The 'Steering Lock Error' is one I haven't heard about before. Did you have the steering locked? When did it show up?

I had no idea that the onboard computer even monitored the steering lock?
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2014, 05:35:53 AM »
Quote from: Conrad on February 21, 2014, 04:58:23 AM
There you go, Jim. Just keep letting all the crud build up on your bike and you won't need those pesky Canyon Cages after all.    :thumbs:

I've had two 'bad' things happen after washing the bike.  It failed to start, battery connection issue actually, but was starting fine before the wash.  Not so much after it.  Coincidence, I think not.  The second was a KIPASS issue with the ignition switch which I resolved by cursing it soundly and thrashing it with my silver hammer.  And no, I didn't spray the ignition assembly with a power washer.  Others may have had good luck with washing the bike or inserting it in a very large glass with a dubious wine pedigree, but not me.  I therefore go with what works and washing the bike is not on the list.  ;)
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2014, 01:48:40 AM »
Quote from: Conrad on February 21, 2014, 04:59:45 AM
I had no idea that the onboard computer even monitored the steering lock?

Yup, it sure does. FI ECU, FOBs, Steering Lock, etc all communicate with, and must be registered with the KiPass ECU.
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2014, 06:01:42 AM »
Quote from: VirginiaJim on February 21, 2014, 05:35:53 AM
I've had two 'bad' things happen after washing the bike.  It failed to start, battery connection issue actually, but was starting fine before the wash.  Not so much after it.  Coincidence, I think not.  The second was a KIPASS issue with the ignition switch which I resolved by cursing it soundly and thrashing it with my silver hammer.  And no, I didn't spray the ignition assembly with a power washer.  Others may have had good luck with washing the bike or inserting it in a very large glass with a dubious wine pedigree, but not me.  I therefore go with what works and washing the bike is not on the list.  ;)

Maybe you need a lucky rabbit's foot? Or maybe an elk hoof?
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Re: Ignition will not open?
« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2014, 06:41:10 AM »
Wasn't lucky for either the rabbit or the Elk, was it?  Therefore, I'm 'sticking' with what 'works' for me.   :)
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