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Offline klb1122

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Oil Pan Swap
« on: January 22, 2020, 07:49:06 PM »
After years of dealing with an oil leak, it's time to finally replace the oil pan on my 2008.  The new version oil pan should be here in a couple weeks along with the parts I'll be replacing with the swap.  I've searched around, but didn't find the answer to this:  is any gasket sealant necessary on the new gasket?  The service manual doesn't mention it, but I wanted to find out from those that have replaced their oil pan before. 

Also, if you encountered any issues or things to watch out for while performing the job, please let me know.  I've got it stripped down, exhaust fully off and ready to go, just need the new parts..

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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2020, 05:09:56 AM »
No sealant, just a few blobs of grease to hold it in place on the sump.  I used Suzuki 1250 exh header. gaskets as they are much better quality and the same size.
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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2020, 07:26:32 AM »
No sealant, just a few blobs of grease to hold it in place on the sump.  I used Suzuki 1250 exh header. gaskets as they are much better quality and the same size.

Thank you!   8)

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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2020, 12:16:26 PM »
No sealant, just a few blobs of grease to hold it in place on the sump.  I used Suzuki 1250 exh header. gaskets as they are much better quality and the same size.

You mentioned the exhaust header gaskets, so I went back out into the garage and took a look.  I didn't even know they existed because my bike doesn't appear to have any.  There were none on the headers and I checked the exhaust ports and no sign of them there either.  This is the first time my headers have been removed also.  Weird.

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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2020, 03:17:00 PM »
You mentioned the exhaust header gaskets, so I went back out into the garage and took a look.  I didn't even know they existed because my bike doesn't appear to have any.  There were none on the headers and I checked the exhaust ports and no sign of them there either.  This is the first time my headers have been removed also.  Weird.

I believe he was saying that instead of using "blobs of grease" on the sump, he used a single, old header gasket from SOME OTHER BIKE as an alternative.  It wasn't about C14 headers.  Of course, perhaps I misread it...
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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2020, 03:57:46 PM »
I believe he was saying that instead of using "blobs of grease" on the sump, he used a single, old header gasket from SOME OTHER BIKE as an alternative.  It wasn't about C14 headers.  Of course, perhaps I misread it...

Uh-oh, one of us misread, that's for sure.   ;D

Hopefully @Freddy can clear this up.

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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2020, 04:49:48 PM »
A few blobs of grease to hold oil pan/sump gasket in place while lifting pan into place.

The Kaw header gaskets are a a thin copper covered ring which are poor quality IMO, but they are probably covered in soot and still in the exh ports and will need to be 'hooked' out.  Suzuki 1200/1250 exh rings are the same size and much more robust and seal better.  Chech ebay for them.
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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2020, 05:49:43 PM »
Uh-oh, one of us misread, that's for sure.   ;D  Hopefully @Freddy can clear this up.

I guess it was me!  Thankfully, too, since it didn't make much sense to me :)
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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2020, 06:36:23 PM »
A few blobs of grease to hold oil pan/sump gasket in place while lifting pan into place.

The Kaw header gaskets are a a thin copper covered ring which are poor quality IMO, but they are probably covered in soot and still in the exh ports and will need to be 'hooked' out.  Suzuki 1200/1250 exh rings are the same size and much more robust and seal better.  Chech ebay for them.

Perfect!  Thanks again!

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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2020, 06:37:21 PM »
I guess it was me!  Thankfully, too, since it didn't make much sense to me :)

 ;D  ;D  ;D

You had me laughing! 

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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2020, 06:05:12 AM »
A fellow rider down here has just discovered that his annoying oil leak is from the oil pressure switch - check that out.
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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2020, 12:42:31 PM »
A fellow rider down here has just discovered that his annoying oil leak is from the oil pressure switch - check that out.

Mine has been leaking for years.  Sad to say, I only ride it once or twice a year if I'm lucky.  A couple years back, I tore into it and determined I had a leak from the Exhaust Cam Position Sensor.  I thought all was good after that, but the leak continued.  Finally made time to dig into it this week.  The oil pan was a mess.  Cleaned it all up and let it sit for a day.  It's leaking out of this little ding, that was located directly above where the headers run under the oil pan.  Once it's fixed, I'll miss the smoke show after the bike warmed up.   :-[

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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2020, 06:13:01 AM »
JB Weld should fix that.
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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2020, 06:56:10 AM »
JB Weld should fix that.

LOL, I was thinking the same thing :)
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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2020, 11:21:05 AM »
LOL, I was thinking the same thing :)
Ditto.  I read that and thought “JB weld that Schmidt!” 
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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2020, 02:08:28 PM »
Ditto.  I read that and thought “JB weld that Schmidt!” 

Quite possibly/probably will work, but then having a less exposed drain plug wouldn't be gained (assuming that the replacement is the updated one.)

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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2020, 05:28:14 PM »
Quite possibly/probably will work, but then having a less exposed drain plug wouldn't be gained (assuming that the replacement is the updated one.)

Ding ding ding!  Half of the reason I'm doing it is to have the newer design pan with the plug not exposed. 

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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2020, 06:13:32 PM »
That would be an excellent reason.
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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2020, 06:08:46 AM »
That would be an excellent reason.

Agreed.

I will add that a few weeks ago I did something stupid... I went directly over a large speed bump, something I almost never do.  With my C14 lowered, this was not a good idea.  It whacked the oil pan or something under there.  Thankfully there was no damage this time, but it quickly reminded me that there are things under there that are vulnerable.  Had it been a gen 1, I might have been stranded...
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Re: Oil Pan Swap
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2020, 11:42:49 AM »
Well, parts came in and I finally had a chance to start working on the swap last night.  Everything went fine, as far as I know, but I didn't realize I would also need the "PIPE,OIL FILTER Part# 32033-1535".  I tried to get the one out of the old oil pan, and I'm not sure how it's possible.  I tried a few different things, and ended up messing up the threads a bit, so I quit and just ordered a new one.  Luckily it's in stock, so it shouldn't take too long to get here.  Once I get that in I can fill it with oil to make sure there are no leaks, then put the rest back together. 

Anyone have a similar experience with that part?  I'm a little worried about being able to tighten the new piece when I get it without messing up the threads.