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Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« on: November 26, 2018, 06:07:17 PM »
Had to remove the rear sensor to replace the battery again because last one last just only a few months probably because the one I put on have it stored for a few years and was no good.
Having the sensor out take the chance and try a generic programmable sensor and having a tool that is capable to copy the ID from the old sensor and write it down in the generic sensor or if you have the sensor ID you can input it manually in the tool and write it down in the generic sensor,  new sensor price is in the $30.00 range , the only problem is that you have to use a steam valve for vehicles and fabricate a little bracket to secure the sensor or use a strap to secure it to the wheel, it works perfectly and wake up faster than the stock one, will post pictures later because files are too large and system does not allowed me to download
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2018, 06:13:30 PM »
Does any body know how to edit the photos to make them the smaller size good enough to post them here?
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2018, 06:40:41 PM »
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2018, 06:43:23 PM »
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2018, 06:44:01 PM »
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2018, 06:49:31 PM »
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2018, 06:51:53 PM »
As you can see in the tool the ID is the same that is in the concours sensor
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2018, 07:30:07 PM »
So you are talking about this?:

http://www.schraderinternational.com/Products/Product-Folder/NA-Schrader-EZ-sensored61.html?sc_lang=en-US-NA

So this is a sensor that can clone our stock sensor's ID and connect to the stock TPMS display?  Interesting...
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2018, 07:35:16 PM »
Does any body know how to edit the photos to make them the smaller size good enough to post them here?

Well, that varies dramatically on what computer and tools and OS you have.  I use nothing but Linux, and resize/edit photos locally using "GIMP" which is also available (free/open source) for other operating systems, such as MS-Windows.  I do recommend you upload photos rather than link to them, since at any moment, hosted photos will disappear and then the thread becomes far less useful for future readers.

You can also use online tools (web sites), such as:  http://resizeimage.net/ or http://www.picresize.com/

PS- you reference a "as you can see on the tool" in one of the postings, but there is no photo of that :)
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2018, 07:39:19 PM »
Well, that varies dramatically on what computer and tools and OS you have.  I use nothing but Linux, and resize/edit photos locally using "GIMP" which is also available (free/open source) for other operating systems, such as MS-Windows.  I do recommend you upload photos rather than link to them, since at any moment, hosted photos will disappear and then the thread becomes far less useful for future readers.

You can also use online tools (web sites), such as:  http://resizeimage.net/ or http://www.picresize.com/

PS- you reference a "as you can see on the tool" in one of the postings, but there is no photo of that :)
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2018, 07:43:28 PM »
So you are talking about this?:

http://www.schraderinternational.com/Products/Product-Folder/NA-Schrader-EZ-sensored61.html?sc_lang=en-US-NA

So this is a sensor that can clone our stock sensor's ID and connect to the stock TPMS display?  Interesting...
So you are talking about this?:

http://www.schraderinternational.com/Products/Product-Folder/NA-Schrader-EZ-sensored61.html?sc_lang=en-US-NA
Yes it is the one
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2018, 08:07:50 PM »
Yes it is the one

Well, amazing if that works, and the price is dirt cheap!  Of course, you still have to get the tool to program it, and it seems you needed to do some work to make it fit.  Should be an interesting experiment.  I know many people will want to read more about your experiences, especially programming, accuracy, and how it holds up over time.

It seems to suffer the same flaw as all these other sensors- internal battery that will die.  They claim 7 to 10 years of service.

I checked the "fitment" guides on their site, neither Kawasaki nor Concours were listed anywhere that I could find.  Maybe you should let them know they could have another market they don't even know about :)
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2018, 08:35:53 PM »
Well, amazing if that works, and the price is dirt cheap!  Of course, you still have to get the tool to program it, and it seems you needed to do some work to make it fit.  Should be an interesting experiment.  I know many people will want to read more about your experiences, especially programming, accuracy, and how it holds up over time.

It seems to suffer the same flaw as all these other sensors- internal battery that will die.  They claim 7 to 10 years of service.

I checked the "fitment" guides on their site, neither Kawasaki nor Concours were listed anywhere that I could find.  Maybe you should let them know they could have another market they don't even know about :)
I have many years working on cars and after this system come to the market  have some experience working with that, yes it is correct, in the applications kawasaki is not listed and also the tools to program them have no kawasaky as an option but what i did was to search for the menu for a vehicle were the tool is able to read the kawasaki stock sensor ID and in the same menu for that vehicle used the option to write that ID to the EZ sensor and it work, those 315 Megahertz sensors work in most of vehicles but the operation is different for each brand of vehicle, the one that worked for mine is the 2009 Mazda 3, so any one that want to try it just have to get one of the EZ sensors and go tho any tire shop that have a generic tool capable to program SCHADRER EZ sensors and ask to program it using the menu for 2009 Mazda 3 , you have to bring the old sensor or write the ID found in the stock sensor
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2018, 10:34:58 PM »
I wonder if registering the Schrader ID number to the bike's KIPASS ECU with KDS would work?
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2018, 12:43:11 AM »
I wonder if registering the Schrader ID number to the bike's KIPASS ECU with KDS would work?
The Schrader EZ sensors come with an  ID and also you can overwrite them with the number on your kawasaki sensor  or if you know the number registered on the KEYPASS ECU just Write one of those  on the new EZ sensor and that is it , you do not need to pay to the Stiller to do any programing with the KDS
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2018, 01:10:59 AM »
After you have the sensor programed there are two ways to test it before you mount it in the tire and go for a ride to confirm that it work, it can be done with the stock Kawasaki sensor or the generic sensor, just hold it in your hand and standing next to your bike with the ignition on get a magnet and rub the sensor around, it will wake up the sensor and show in he display, will show no pressure but will display the low tire warning message, the other way that wake it up is securing the sensor with electrical tape to your bicycle rear tire and while holding the bicycle up  next to the motorcycle spin the tire, this procedure is also good for when you replace the stock sensor battery, it is good to confirm that it work before you put every ting back together
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2018, 01:28:54 AM »
Thanks GG.  A magnet to wake the sensor up eh?  Never thought/heard/imagined that - well done.

I don't quite follow the earlier post about ID number.  Are you saying they come with/out an ID number?  I can see the 8 digit number in your pix.  I don't have access to the tool to change the Schrader sensor ID number to the original Kaw ID number but I do have KDS to delete an old sensor ID number and add a a new ID number - the one printed on the Schrader sensor.
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2018, 04:46:17 AM »
I wonder if registering the Schrader ID number to the bike's KIPASS ECU with KDS would work?
sorry, I forgot that when I answered your question , yes it come with a 6 digits ID that can be overwrite  and  for you that have that tool you can  write that number to the KIPAS ECU and it must work
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2018, 09:40:06 AM »
Good find but what I wonder is will it trigger the bogus low battery warning in a year just like the OEM?
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