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Have you tried the "TPS Calibration" Procedure?  What are your findings?  (After you vote here, Describe your actual findings in a post, and please note the mileage you believe the issue started, and the current mileage on your bike.)

Gen 1, Throttle Issues Before, Running Smooth After.
2 (2.7%)
Gen 1, Throttle Issues Before, No Change.
1 (1.3%)
Gen 1, Throttle Issues Before, Running Rough After.
0 (0%)
Gen 1, Throttle OK Before, Running Smooth After.
3 (4%)
Gen 1, Throttle OK Before, No Change.
10 (13.3%)
Gen 1, Throttle OK Before, Running Rough After.
0 (0%)
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0 (0%)
Gen 2, Throttle Issues Before, Running Smooth After.
7 (9.3%)
Gen 2, Throttle Issues Before, No Change.
1 (1.3%)
Gen 2, Throttle Issues Before, Running Rough After.
0 (0%)
Gen 2, Throttle OK Before, Running Smooth After.
1 (1.3%)
Gen 2, Throttle OK Before, No Change.
2 (2.7%)
Gen 2, Throttle OK Before, Running Rough After.
0 (0%)
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0 (0%)
Engine WARM when calibration sequence was run.
11 (14.7%)
Engine COLD when calibration sequence was run.
13 (17.3%)
Have you unplugged your battery, and the issues started AFTER the battery unplug?
1 (1.3%)
Have you unplugged your battery, but the issues started BEFORE the battery unplug?
2 (2.7%)
After Calibration FUEL MILEAGE INCREASED (Assuming same riding style)
2 (2.7%)
After Calibration FUEL MILEAGE DECREASED (Assuming same riding style)
0 (0%)
Did your Idle INCREASE?
1 (1.3%)
Did your Idle STAY THE SAME?
15 (20%)
Did your Idle DECREASE?
3 (4%)

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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #240 on: September 30, 2014, 02:37:08 PM »

I do not have any type of Kawi source/contact, if I did I would be asking them, surely out of curiosity someone will make the call?

I have asked the only guy I know that is deeply into these ECU's, and he has not responded in over a week or so. His non-response may be an answer in itself, but I'll wait patiently to hear back regardless. Whatever the answer is, I will be sure to share it with everybody;).

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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #241 on: September 30, 2014, 05:42:45 PM »
Just read through the COG posts, curious as to what the UK guys are saying, but I am not interested in yet another forum.  Anyone care to share?

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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #242 on: September 30, 2014, 06:14:14 PM »
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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #243 on: September 30, 2014, 06:17:15 PM »
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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #244 on: September 30, 2014, 06:19:15 PM »
Didn't know that, I  am a member.  FWIW, lots of great folks and info in things not discussed here.  Sign up, what's to lose???   tp
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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #245 on: September 30, 2014, 06:28:29 PM »
Very good people.  They don't post as much as us but very good info that is sometimes cross posted here.
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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #246 on: September 30, 2014, 06:47:19 PM »
REM: 

Sorry if my chart was offensive... Wasn't intended to be... As Brian said, we need fuel readings.

At the same time, if you ran the tests at 25% throttle, that could be outside of a "Safety net" if it's in there, as others have mentioned. 




And as far as the engine temp goes, I don't know why it would matter when you did the calibration, but it could matter what you experience right off the bat... Engines always chug for the first bit while they're cold if you put a load on them.  Some of us don't always have time to let the engine fully warm up before taking off. Not that anyone on here needs that explanation.. Just continuing to dig my own grave... lol

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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #247 on: September 30, 2014, 06:52:17 PM »
Very good people.  They don't post as much as us but very good info that is sometimes cross posted here.

Being they are 5-8 hours ahead of us, it's sometimes hard to keep a conversation going.  Found the same with other brand/model forums based across the pond too. 

FWIW, some of the best info I have gained over the years, has been on BMW forums from members from OZ and NZ.  Those guys LOVE their motorcycles... tp

Stephen, from post 1, I have believed your video showed something more than dirty pots and cables.  Maybe someday we will finally know what that something is.  You proved a change in the video.  Have you retried the test at the test change baseline, so as to replicate the RPM acceleration difference?   Your fan, tomp
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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #248 on: September 30, 2014, 08:09:32 PM »
gotta register to look
Good luck.  Just wasted 15 minutes trying to register.  Is it 1352, 1352cc, or 1352 cc, or 1,352 etc?  Do I use ZG/GTR as model, C14, ZG 1400????  Yes, as frustrated as Kirby trying to crack a nut >:(

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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #249 on: September 30, 2014, 08:19:16 PM »
Good luck.  Just wasted 15 minutes trying to register.  Is it 1352, 1352cc, or 1352 cc, or 1,352 etc?  Do I use ZG/GTR as model, C14, ZG 1400????  Yes, as frustrated as Kirby trying to crack a nut >:(
  1400 is the correct answer.  I tried those others, too....Need to keep it simple.  GTR 1400= 1400, try that. 
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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #250 on: September 30, 2014, 08:23:29 PM »
  1400 is the correct answer.  I tried those others, too....Need to keep it simple.  GTR 1400= 1400, try that.
Wow, so they want uninformed members joining?  I will try ONE more time...


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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #251 on: September 30, 2014, 08:27:48 PM »
Try recalibrating your mouse: turn the computer on, then push the mouse forward as far as it will go, then reverse it as far as it will go. Do this two times and turn the computer off. Then when you restart the computer, it will run faster and you will be able to get into the UK forum.

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Good luck.  Just wasted 15 minutes trying to register.  Is it 1352, 1352cc, or 1352 cc, or 1,352 etc?  Do I use ZG/GTR as model, C14, ZG 1400????  Yes, as frustrated as Kirby trying to crack a nut >:(
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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #252 on: September 30, 2014, 08:30:14 PM »
OK Brian, remember they are all asleep at this time....   1400=1400, not 1352 or any thing else.  Remember they are Brits.
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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #253 on: September 30, 2014, 08:34:41 PM »
Try recalibrating your mouse: turn the computer on, then push the mouse forward as far as it will go, then reverse it as far as it will go. Do this two times and turn the computer off. Then when you restart the computer, it will run faster and you will be able to get into the UK forum.

Sorry Chet, just could not resist....  :rotflmao:

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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #254 on: September 30, 2014, 08:43:21 PM »
You know it's not about accuracy, but about keeping computer troll systems from being a part of their group.  Nice bunch, over there, for sure.  Don't go if you don't want to join, like I did... tp
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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #255 on: September 30, 2014, 08:54:10 PM »
You know it's not about accuracy, but about keeping computer troll systems from being a part of their group.  Nice bunch, over there, for sure.  Don't go if you don't want to join, like I did... tp
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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #256 on: September 30, 2014, 08:55:34 PM »
Yeah, been dealing with them on and off for years. Almost fluent in the language although sometimes the individual use of some words still throw me.

I joined that forum quite a while ago and stop by now and then. And yep, seems like a nice enough group but again, their talking about destinations and various local situations falls short of a Yank's understanding a lot of the time. This is not to imply that I follow what is going on on this forum though.... :-)

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OK Brian, remember they are all asleep at this time....   1400=1400, not 1352 or any thing else.  Remember they are Brits.
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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #257 on: September 30, 2014, 09:02:18 PM »
Yeah, been dealing with them on and off for years. Almost fluent in the language although sometimes the individual use of some words still throw me.

I joined that forum quite a while ago and stop by now and then. And yep, seems like a nice enough group but again, their talking about destinations and various local situations falls short of a Yank's understanding a lot of the time. This is not to imply that I follow what is going on on this forum though.... :-)

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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #258 on: October 01, 2014, 03:21:04 AM »
REM: 

Sorry if my chart was offensive... Wasn't intended to be... As Brian said, we need fuel readings.

At the same time, if you ran the tests at 25% throttle, that could be outside of a "Safety net" if it's in there, as others have mentioned. 


Stephen,

Nossir, nothing has been offensive in any way, and I didn't mean to sound too gruff about any of this stuff either;)./.

All is good on this end;). Carry on folks...I'm just along for the ride;).

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Re: Trying to narrow down an air/fuel issue... (SOLVED! - TPS Recalibration)
« Reply #259 on: October 01, 2014, 06:23:31 AM »
Tomp:  i did try to un-cal and -re-cal it but to no change. Havent had any time to mess with it tho because of work (yay being self employed... Either dead ir slammed, and slammed more recently... Business is a good problem to have tho!)

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