Author Topic: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow (Read 43567 times)

Kurt · « **Reply #20 on:** December 01, 2011, 03:36:19 PM »

Quote from: Scaffolder on December 01, 2011, 02:07:19 PM

Not too many people in this forum are paying sticker for a C-14. So the dealer eats over half of the depreciation.

Is $14,200 out the door a great deal, good deal, about right, or a bad deal? $13,200 before tax and license.

I am down to the wire and making my decision

Jeremy Mitchell · « **Reply #21 on:** December 01, 2011, 03:38:59 PM »

Quote from: Kurt on December 01, 2011, 03:36:19 PM

Is $14,200 out the door a great deal, good deal, about right, or a bad deal? $13,200 before tax and license.

I am down to the wire and making my decision

What year?

Kurt · « **Reply #22 on:** December 01, 2011, 03:46:37 PM »

Quote from: Jeremy Mitchell on December 01, 2011, 03:38:59 PM

What year?

2011

Jeremy Mitchell · « **Reply #23 on:** December 01, 2011, 03:48:35 PM »

Quote from: Kurt on December 01, 2011, 03:46:37 PM

2011

I have seen new 2011 C14's sell for as little at $12,000 (not including TTL), the price dropped on them a little when the 2012 hit the showrooms.

Here is one for $12,500
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawasaki-KAWASAKI-CONCOURS-BRAND-NEW-2011-KAWASAKI-ZG1400-CONCOURS-ABS-SALE-OUT-DOOR-PRICE-/140653384885?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item20bf9854b5

Buy it now for $11,750!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawasaki-Ninja-KAWASAKI-CONCOURS-14-NEW-2011-ZG1400-ZG1400CBF-/230708177640?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item35b7476ae8

rtarp1 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 01, 2011, 03:51:45 PM »

14200 is a good deal . i have seen them lower and tried to get one at that price only to find out it was bullshit. you got a good deal buy the bike. you wouldnt catch me buying a bike i have not seen from out of state on ebay.

keep shopping around or buy a 2012.

Jeremy Mitchell · « **Reply #25 on:** December 01, 2011, 03:54:24 PM »

Quote from: rtarp1 on December 01, 2011, 03:51:45 PM

14200 is a good deal . i have seen them lower and tried to get one at that price only to find out it was bullshit. you got a good deal buy the bike.

$14,200 would be a decent deal for a 2012 IMO, but the dealer should cut a better deal than that on a bike that is already one model year old. Just my 2 cents.

jimmymac · « **Reply #26 on:** December 01, 2011, 04:01:55 PM »

My local Dealer is closed now. It's past 5:00
I hope He got a BMW, that will make my bike more rare.

Of course I'm kidding. If he rides anything like I do, He needs the Connie under him.

Tactical_Mik · « **Reply #27 on:** December 01, 2011, 04:26:49 PM »

I will say that a lot of the servicing can be done by the owner. It only took me about 45 minutes to adjust the valves on the R bike. Of course that was 15 minutes longer than on my airhead R bikes. Unless you need the computer for a service or replacing a final drive etc. A lot of the service costs can be negated. With that said, I still own a c14 now.

Scaffolder · « **Reply #28 on:** December 01, 2011, 04:48:23 PM »

I call every dealer in a 300 mile radius and make them earn the sale. I used the prices on ebay to bicker a little. $13,100-$13,500 is a good deal. Under $13,000 are great deals. I could probably get myself on a 2012 for mid $14,000 if I was trying. I bought my 2010 abs in January on 2011 for $13,200 and feel I did good.

556ALPHA · « **Reply #29 on:** December 01, 2011, 05:05:50 PM »

Where are you located? If you are in the mideast that is too much money. I ride a 2009 RT all day for work and have NO complaints. In STOCK form I would prefer it on longer trips. In MODIFIED form the C14 is just as good. (Wind protection etc) If you want to twist the throttle and feel acceleration the BMW is light years behind the C14, you will be nothing short if disappointed if you are a speed freak. The RT is smooth, the C14 is a monster. They can both be modified to fit you ergo wise so it boils down to what YOU want. If you can do most of your own maintenance then that is no issue. The fit and finish is better on the RT but at 7,000 more i would expect it to be. The warranty is same on on both bikes. I would buy a RT in a minute if cost was no issue and I preferred the styling, I just could not give up the feeling of the C14's throttle. I prefer the silver on the 2011 C14 and that is what I would buy if I had to choose today as I like the color, it is that easy for me. I do not like the black rims on the 2012 and there are no differences to validate a higher cost. GOOD LUCK!

Shadowofshoe · « **Reply #30 on:** December 01, 2011, 07:15:39 PM »

I hate to say it (esp. not owning an RT) but after owning an LT and looking hard at the RT(wanted badly for motor simplicity) or C-14 for my next bike a bit later... the beemers are much better tourers-but often top-heavy and the FD issue debate still rages on. Far better standard farkles -its not even close. Beemers are smooth powered until lately and an RT won't come close to hanging with the connie.
All that said:
The C-14 is the far better bike in my opinion-lighting quick for its heft,handles and brakes well. Not to mention it feels 100's of #'s lighter than my beemer.

Mike

maxtog · « **Reply #31 on:** December 01, 2011, 09:33:45 PM »

Quote from: Kurt on November 30, 2011, 09:42:01 PM

I suppose that I would be happy with either, but possibly for different reasons. Any insight you could add would be valued.

You can pretty easily add a better and heated seat, and some handlebar stuff to the C-14 (I did) and end up with just as much comfort and still come out way ahead with the Concours. The cruise is a bit more difficult a situation (it is a shame Kawasaki didn't offer it as an option in 2010 when they made all the other changes).

Like others said, this is a big purchase, if you don't know what you want and have only a day to decide, you are not ready to purchase yet...

Kurt · « **Reply #32 on:** December 01, 2011, 10:16:49 PM »

Well, today was the day I was going to buy a motorcycle...

I took both the R1200RT and the C14 out on test rides along the same stretch of roads. In my opinion, the bikes are totally different; the C14 clearly sporty, while the RT more tour oriented. There was a surprising amount of wind noise on the C14 along with upper body heat (that surprised me, had not read about that in 2011). But the power and smoothness the bike has is contagious and makes you have to have the bike!

I rode the RT and fell in love. It is quiet, comfortable, has plenty of power, and handles well.

Truly I could not decide which to buy. So I bought both!! :)

Kurt
2011 C14 Silver
2012 R1200RT Blue

PH14 · « **Reply #33 on:** December 01, 2011, 10:19:47 PM »

Quote from: Kurt on December 01, 2011, 10:16:49 PM

Well, today was the day I was going to buy a motorcycle...

I took both the R1200RT and the C14 out on test rides along the same stretch of roads. In my opinion, the bikes are totally different; the C14 clearly sporty, while the RT more tour oriented. There was a surprising amount of wind noise on the C14 along with upper body heat (that surprised me, had not read about that in 2011). But the power and smoothness the bike has is contagious and makes you have to have the bike!

I rode the RT and fell in love. It is quiet, comfortable, has plenty of power, and handles well.

Truly I could not decide which to buy. So I bought both!!

Kurt
2011 C14 Silver
2012 R1200RT Blue

Hahaha! Nice option! Well, enjoy them both!

CRocker · « **Reply #34 on:** December 01, 2011, 10:28:42 PM »

Didn't see that coming!

EpicBadass · « **Reply #35 on:** December 01, 2011, 10:43:28 PM »

Wish I could buy two bikes because I couldn't make up my mind!

martin_14 · « **Reply #36 on:** December 01, 2011, 11:59:57 PM »

regarding depreciation costs. Keep in mind that I live in Germany and use euros, but whatever that is in USD nowadays, it doesn't really matter for what I'm explaining:

- I paid 17900 for my RT (list price, since BMW doesn't know the word "deal"). Sold it 2 years later with 5000 miles for 12500. That's 30% depreciation and 5400 loss.

- I paid 12000 for my GTR ('08 bike bought in March '09; list price for an '09 was 15900, but they were selling for about 14500):
case 1. If I sold it today, 2 years and 8 months later with 25000 miles, I'd get 8500. That's 30% depreciation and 3500 loss.
case 2. If I had sold it in March '11, 2 years old and if it had 5000 on it, I'd have gotten 10000. That's 17% depreciation and 2000 loss.

Once you go through the numbers, you can take your pick. The only problem with the Kawa is the cost of the platic surgery to take the

off your face!!!

Son of Pappy · « **Reply #37 on:** December 02, 2011, 12:21:23 AM »

Quote from: Kurt on December 01, 2011, 10:16:49 PM

Well, today was the day I was going to buy a motorcycle...

I took both the R1200RT and the C14 out on test rides along the same stretch of roads. In my opinion, the bikes are totally different; the C14 clearly sporty, while the RT more tour oriented. There was a surprising amount of wind noise on the C14 along with upper body heat (that surprised me, had not read about that in 2011). But the power and smoothness the bike has is contagious and makes you have to have the bike!

I rode the RT and fell in love. It is quiet, comfortable, has plenty of power, and handles well.

Truly I could not decide which to buy. So I bought both!!

Kurt
2011 C14 Silver
2012 R1200RT Blue

Congrats!! I'll be interested in which bike gets more seat time

R Nelson · « **Reply #38 on:** December 02, 2011, 03:54:17 AM »

Kurt -
Congratulations on your purchases. The RT/C14 debate comes up frequently here, so now you'll be one of the resident experts. I'll be interested to hear how you like each of them after you've had them for a bit. Good luck with them. At least now you should never be without a bike even if one is down for service or repairs.

dgshaffer · « **Reply #39 on:** December 02, 2011, 04:56:06 AM »

Quote from: Kurt on December 01, 2011, 10:16:49 PM

Truly I could not decide which to buy. So I bought both!!

Who'd a thunk?

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