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Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« on: September 14, 2013, 10:11:48 PM »
I've been looking at the VW sport wagon TDI , what about that  dual clutch automatic , would it last 200,000 ? How $ is the service,  motor and  transmission , my wife does not drive a stick.

Any one know anything about the Volt ? I have a diesel truck and a conversion van that I'll be keeping but I drive around town a LOT for my business , waste a lot of fuel $$ I wonder how good the air conditioner works on the Volt.
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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2013, 04:33:28 AM »
All good questions...  I'd like to know as well.
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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2013, 05:55:07 AM »
Buy the VW. I hate buying cars for other people.

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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2013, 06:00:08 AM »
Come on now, I wouldn't mind you buying one for me, but I've already just bought one.  Next time, though, I'll give you a call first.
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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2013, 07:37:36 AM »
I have a 2012 JSW TDI DSG with around 15k on the odo. What would you like to know?

Both my wife and I love the car and the DSG is fantastic! I do all my own service, even the 'free' oil changes (VW offers 3 years/36K 'free' routine maintenance) are done by me, not so free but at least I know that it's done right. I'll be doing the DSG service when it comes up at 40k as well.

Here's some 'light' reading for you on the TDI.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/index.php

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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2013, 09:26:09 AM »
I love my 2013 V.W Passat TDI. A very well built and equipped car. I was just looking at the Chevy Volt a week ago. The dealer couldn't even give good answers on consumption. It is pretty much the fuel economy of a Cruze eco gas engine after the charge runs out. Chevy also has a Cruze diesel now. It isn't as nice looking as V.W. products, but are giving a longer drivetrain warranty and more horsepower and torque. I found them for $22,000-$24-000 price range on sale.
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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2013, 12:24:13 PM »
The diesel in the Chevy has been around for years, in Germany as an Opel. 

Here is a C&D diesel camparo...
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-chevrolet-cruze-20td-vs-2013-volkswagen-jetta-tdi-comparison-test

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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2013, 01:17:02 PM »
I wish they had a wagon version. I like the VW SUV TDI but they are TOO $$$.
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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2013, 02:37:05 PM »
I would love a six passenger V.W. Passat wagon. They are supposed to be working on a six passenger hybrid diesel SUV., but it will be too much money for sure.
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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2013, 02:00:41 PM »
I've been looking at the VW sport wagon TDI , what about that  dual clutch automatic , would it last 200,000 ? How $ is the service,  motor and  transmission , my wife does not drive a stick.

Any one know anything about the Volt ? I have a diesel truck and a conversion van that I'll be keeping but I drive around town a LOT for my business , waste a lot of fuel $$ I wonder how good the air conditioner works on the Volt.

I don't think the DSG has been around long enough to give an accurate assessment of it's durability to 200k miles. VW's have generally been fairly reliable, and I would expect the DSG transmission to follow that history.

Knowing that it's from Chevrolet, I'm sure the A/C works well in the Volt, maybe we have some Volt owners on this forum that can confirm?


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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2013, 03:13:24 PM »
I don't think the DSG has been around long enough to give an accurate assessment of it's durability to 200k miles. VW's have generally been fairly reliable, and I would expect the DSG transmission to follow that history.

Knowing that it's from Chevrolet, I'm sure the A/C works well in the Volt, maybe we have some Volt owners on this forum that can confirm?
If not, since it's electric, you could always hang a window unit on it.

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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2013, 03:41:32 PM »
Almost at 40,000 miles on my 2012 Jetta TDI.  Average of 42 MPG with average speeds of 75+ on long trips with many passes, my last longish trip was to Helena, MT from WA State, averaged 43.5.  When I keep the speeds below 70 I get 49-53.  No issues, no regrets, plenty of torque, handles like a dream, comfy, and that tranny just rocks.  I see a Toureg in my future as I need a 4WD vehicle for my retirement home ;D

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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2013, 12:55:16 AM »
I've just clocked up 40,000 on my 2012 Passat TDI with the DSG box. I love it . The only thing that keeps me out of it is the Connie, of course. I bought it to do my famous weekly MN<-->IL commute when I can't ride the bike for some reason. The 40,000 service is will cost around $780, so like most imports service isn't cheap. The car is beautiful, though: Motor Trend 2012 car of the year.

Like several of you I'd prefer the wagon, but it wasn't available at the time. Maybe my wife will inherit this when the wagon comes out and I'll trade in my tired old 2003 Audi A6 2.7. It has 215k on it, and is getting smelly and it's making some weird noises at the back when I corner. It is also looking at its second timing belt which will cost a mere $1000 or so :o

The Passat has significantly more room than the Jetta, especially in the back, and my wife liked the seats better. I get around 46mpg on long highway journeys, though I drive at a modest 69mph most of the time to conserve fuel.
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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2013, 04:18:47 PM »
Do I dare ask what the dealership did to earn $780 of your money? I am only at about 8200 miles, so it'll be a while. I had a 2003 Golf TDI and never spent much on service until 100,000 miles, when I did the timing belt.
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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2013, 04:45:30 AM »
Do I dare ask what the dealership did to earn $780 of your money? I am only at about 8200 miles, so it'll be a while. I had a 2003 Golf TDI and never spent much on service until 100,000 miles, when I did the timing belt.

At 40k along with the reg maintenance that's due at that point the DSG gets a fluid/filter change. The DSG service is a fairly big deal and it's WAY different than just draining the fluid and swapping out the filter. Although $780 sounds a bit steep.

You want details? Here's a small taste...

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=338801
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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2013, 04:39:53 PM »
Wow!!!
I am loving my 6-speed even more right now.
I was just looking into getting an Audi A3 TDI, but they do not make them anymore. They were around $31,000. But don't worry they still have an A6 TDI that is only about $60,000-$70,000.
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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2013, 08:34:30 PM »
I broke down a month ago and bought my first car in many years.  I opted for fun and fuel economy.



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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2013, 08:30:18 AM »
Engines and economy aside, the last Chevy I owned, I'd occasionally find mysterious screws and nuts in the floorboard and the plastic parts in the interior would squeak. Fit and finish was crap. Buy the VW.


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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2013, 08:35:16 AM »
Engines and economy aside, the last Chevy I owned, I'd occasionally find mysterious screws and nuts in the floorboard and the plastic parts in the interior would squeak. Fit and finish was crap. Buy the VW.

+1 on that! The VW is solid and the only time I ever hear a noise that isn't supposed to be there is when it's below zero.
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Re: Chev Volt vs VW TDI
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2013, 07:15:30 PM »
Do I dare ask what the dealership did to earn $780 of your money? I am only at about 8200 miles, so it'll be a while. I had a 2003 Golf TDI and never spent much on service until 100,000 miles, when I did the timing belt.

Just completed the 40k yesterday - it cost $696. I got it done at Luther Westside Volkswagen in Minneapolis.
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