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Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« on: October 11, 2011, 06:53:32 PM »
I'm going through my carbs trying to figure out why the bike is running poorly and leaking gas.

Found put part of the problem was the repair that I tried to make to one of the crap K&L o-rings didn't work.  Gasoline-1, Hondabond-0.  8-(

Since none of the import bike places keep more than $9.72 worth of inventory on hand, I headed off to the H-D dealer on a hunch. 

I've heard that the Sportster and KLR650 share the same carb body and the diaphragms are interchangeable.  So that got me thinking--if the diaphragms are interchangeable, maybe the float bowl o-rings are too.  So I checked the part numbers from Kawi and the o-rings from the KLR are the same ones as the Connie.  Kawasaki wants around $10 plus shipping for each one.  And I'd have to wait.

So off to Grand Canyon H-D in Mayer I go.  Told the tech I needed a float bowl o-ring for a 2001 XLH883, but any year from 1992-2003 (at least, maybe later) will work.

Here's what he came back with:


The part number is 27577-92.


And here is the o-ring in the float bowl:


Note the little circle--that's for the accelerator pump and will have to be carefully snipped off.

Cost was $4.25.  Kawasaki ought to be ashamed of what they charge for their service parts.

Not encouraging anyone to go the darkside, but if someone is in desperate need for a carb o-ring try H-D.  Some of the dealers are open 7 days a week and they actually stock parts.
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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 08:56:24 PM »
Don't know about any 'dark side' issues, but I for one find the information extremly valuable!
Thank you very much!

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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 10:52:05 PM »
Don't know about any 'dark side' issues, but I for one find the information extremely valuable!
Thank you very much!

You're welcome.  I've pinched an o-ring before and the Hondabond just didn't hold up.
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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2011, 02:35:50 AM »
I just realized something.  The part number on the float bowl o-ring starts with 92.  In Harleyese, that means that that part number was first used in 1992.  The ones before '92 had the accelerator pump o-ring separate.

I think I also found a part number for the drain screw o-ring.  I am going to Phoenix tomorrow, I'll take a float bowl and drain screw with me to check.

If the parts work, the cost to do the float bowls & drain screws will be $20 for everything.

I'm also gonna swing by an indy and see what it would cost to use all James gaskets.  James gaskets are good stuff and made in the USA.
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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 06:47:58 AM »
Good info.  Thanks.
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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2011, 08:26:23 AM »
You can also get your carb jets from the HD shop for the exact same reason......
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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2011, 09:30:25 AM »
So how long did it take to scrape the chrome off the gasket?   ;D
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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2011, 12:37:25 PM »
or you could simply make a call here:
http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_107&products_id=329
and plop $20 for all 4, call on a Wednesday and check the mailbox Monday morn.....free shipping.....

but then you probably haven't been here long enough to know our secrets..... ;)

oh, and the reason the kaw parts are so high is they have to ship those HD rings to japan, and pay someone to cobbledick them and trim them down... 8)

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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2011, 02:52:00 AM »
I've ordered stuff from Murphs before.  Wanted to see if I could source some locally.

The K&L o-rings don't fit properly.  They need to be stretched to fit because their molds are off.

I'm going to try some James gaskets because I like to buy stuff made in the USA when possible.

The H-D stuff is made in Japan.

Oddly enough, the same O-ring from Suzuki costs $5 and change.  So I guess Kawasaki likes playing its customers for suckers.

or you could simply make a call here:
http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_107&products_id=329
and plop $20 for all 4, call on a Wednesday and check the mailbox Monday morn.....free shipping.....

but then you probably haven't been here long enough to know our secrets..... ;)

oh, and the reason the kaw parts are so high is they have to ship those HD rings to japan, and pay someone to cobbledick them and trim them down... 8)
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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2011, 07:01:19 AM »
I probably missed it - what is the suzuki part number?
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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2011, 08:29:57 AM »
You didn't miss it--I didn't put it up.  DOH!!  My notes are at home.

You can look it up under any year of Suzuki 600 Bandit.

I guess the 600s used Keihin CVKs.
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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2011, 09:17:07 AM »

I'm going to try some James gaskets because I like to buy stuff made in the USA when possible.The H-D stuff is made in Japan.

 :rotflmao:
and your bike was made where? or should I say the parts were made where?
 ;)

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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2011, 10:25:40 AM »
:rotflmao:
and your bike was made where? or should I say the parts were made where?
 ;)

I ride what I can afford. I miss the cheap parts, dealers that don't suck and the non-messy oil change that only required a stubby standard screwdriver.
If I could afford another solid-mount XLH I'd be on it in a heartbeat without looking back.
But I can't.  I can afford what I've got.
Better to ride the fragile, expensive-to-repair Kawi than not ride at all.

Why should I not try to buy domestic parts for my motorcycle?  Please explain.

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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2011, 12:25:18 PM »
...Better to ride the fragile, expensive-to-repair Kawi than not ride at all.

Why should I not try to buy domestic parts for my motorcycle?  Please explain.

I hardly consider the Concours fragile, or expensive to repair...based on how many 86 and up ones are running around today, or the ones with bonifide 200k odometer readings I've seen...  ;)

please don't take my joking the wrong way, I like low priced parts that work also, and I along with Steve in Fla have probably installed hundreds of K&L bowl gaskets....stretch them, install, and all is good. You only stretch it once during install, no big deal. Easier to stretch one than SHRINK one... 8)

as for James kits, I think you may be confusing "KIT made in U.S.A.", with "ALL PARTS in Kit MANUFACTURED in the U.S.A."....big difference. call them.
 ;)
(they do have good prices though, I need to check with them as the prices for diaphragm/slide assy is great ($44?)

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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2011, 03:54:23 PM »
"and your bike was made where? "
I still have the handle bar tag somewhere that notes my 2000 was assembled -- which is as close as a vehicle gets to being made -- in Lincoln, Nebraska.

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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2011, 05:02:20 PM »
Had never heard of James Gasket before -- probably because I've never been a Harley type -- but it looks like a
JGI-27577-88 would be perfect alternative.

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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2011, 09:31:44 PM »
I hardly consider the Concours fragile, or expensive to repair...based on how many 86 and up ones are running around today, or the ones with bonifide 200k odometer readings I've seen...  ;)

please don't take my joking the wrong way, I like low priced parts that work also, and I along with Steve in Fla have probably installed hundreds of K&L bowl gaskets....stretch them, install, and all is good. You only stretch it once during install, no big deal. Easier to stretch one than SHRINK one... 8)

as for James kits, I think you may be confusing "KIT made in U.S.A.", with "ALL PARTS in Kit MANUFACTURED in the U.S.A."....big difference. call them.
 ;)
(they do have good prices though, I need to check with them as the prices for diaphragm/slide assy is great ($44?)

frugal is all good man, nothing wrong with it.

$44 for a diaphragm blows your mind, eh?  I heard about the interchangeability a long time ago on advrider from a KLR owner.
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Re: Float Bowl O-Ring from Harley, part 27577-92
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2011, 09:33:27 PM »
Had never heard of James Gasket before -- probably because I've never been a Harley type -- but it looks like a
JGI-27577-88 would be perfect alternative.

James even designed their own intake manifold gaskets--totally different than the H-D factory pieces.  Work better too.

I'm going to email or call them this week and find out if all their stuff is molded here.
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