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Title: Got snow!
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 04, 2018, 03:07:39 PM
Max?  You dug out yet?
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: maxtog on January 04, 2018, 03:57:51 PM
Max?  You dug out yet?

Let's just say "ug".  How 6-8" of snow can turn into 4 foot snow drifts is amazing (I guess that is why they threw the term "blizzard" on it).  And such drifts are certainly are not compatible with this area.  At midnight, I made sure to go out and push all the snow off the Concours tent/cover.  Power was intermittently failing all through the night.  This morning, walking to work was brutal.

The drift in front of the garage ensures the G37S is trapped (not like a low-clearance, rear-wheel drive, sporty car works much on mostly unplowed streets, anyway).  So here I am, mostly trapped, still.  But that's OK :)  (As long as I have electricity/gas/water/Internet).
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 04, 2018, 04:20:07 PM
You must be closer to the coast Max. Only got 2-3 inches here and very little wind. Back down in the single digits again tonight. Im looking forward to next week. Back up in the 50's with some rain to wash away all the salt and sand. Should be able to get some riding in after that!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: maxtog on January 04, 2018, 07:24:36 PM
You must be closer to the coast Max.

5 miles from the bay, 12 from the ocean

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Only got 2-3 inches here and very little wind.

Two other sources said we got 10", so my 6-8" estimate might be too low.  Tons of wind, although that mostly went away by afternoon.

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Back down in the single digits again tonight. Im looking forward to next week. Back up in the 50's with some rain to wash away all the salt and sand. Should be able to get some riding in after that!  :thumbs:

Guaranteed I won't be able to ride this weekend :(   Temps will stay far below freezing (10F tonight, high of 23F tomorrow, low of 10F again, same Saturday, same Sunday) , so the ice is going nowhere.  But perhaps the following weekend there will be hope...
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 04, 2018, 08:12:51 PM
We got about 3 in King George but it was a difficult commute this morning.  Drove the wife in for work this morning.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: tonedeaf1 on January 04, 2018, 08:43:35 PM
Well, it was sunny, beautiful blue ski and 37 degrees where I live. Sounds great doesn't it? Problem is, I live a few miles from the Vail Ski Area and we got SQUAT for snow >:(

Someone is screwing with us big time this year.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Rick Hall on January 04, 2018, 09:31:51 PM
Jeebus. I flew from Longmont (25 NE of Denver) to Durango and back today. At 16,500' so I didn't smoosh into any of those pesky mountains. Outside air temp (at elevation) was a balmy 17* with 100 mile visibility. Froze my tootsies off, figuratively, as I don't have cabin heat. NBD

Heat is for whimps my mother said, as she chipped another nose-snot icicle off my nose after my three mile walk home from school. Uphill both ways, I might add. Ahh, those were the days when men were men, and mothers carried ice picks.

Y'all be safe out there! Snow/cold/ice brings out the crazies with the AWD/4WD/NoWD/Traction control Sport-Ute wanna-bee's that can't even jump a parking kurb at Wally-World without ripping off their fart can muffler(s).

Rick
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Conniesaki on January 04, 2018, 10:13:16 PM
You must be closer to the coast Max. Only got 2-3 inches here [EASY BOYS] and very little wind. Back down in the single digits again tonight. Im looking forward to next week. Back up in the 50's with some rain to wash away all the salt and sand. Should be able to get some riding in after that!  :thumbs:

Missed opportunity corrected :thumbs:
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: just gone on January 05, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
Missed opportunity corrected :thumbs:

Way to go!  :goodpost:
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: B.D.F. on January 05, 2018, 11:29:45 AM
Yeah, and AWD mixed with some people seems to cause them to think the brakes will work much, much better in the snow than that old 2- wheel drive car they used to drive. AWD allows them to get up to much too high a speed, much faster and makes for interesting situations at stop signs, red lights and similar. Not to worry though, the other car in the intersection goes a long way to slowing the first one down.....

Some lessons learn easy, some lessons learn hard and some lessons are just never learned.

Brian


<snip>

Y'all be safe out there! Snow/cold/ice brings out the crazies with the AWD/4WD/NoWD/Traction control Sport-Ute wanna-bee's that can't even jump a parking kurb at Wally-World without ripping off their fart can muffler(s).

Rick
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: B.D.F. on January 05, 2018, 11:31:08 AM
Nice job!

1) Correctly placed.
2) Spelled correctly.
3) Assumed mocking of the OP's apparent lack of..... er, inches.

Excellent!

:-)

Brian

Missed opportunity corrected :thumbs:
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Conniesaki on January 05, 2018, 01:13:37 PM
Nice job!

1) Correctly placed.
2) Spelled correctly.
3) Assumed mocking of the OP's apparent lack of..... er, inches.

Excellent!

:-)

Brian

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1d/94/31/1d94315864fa2137d329abdebed3bfc7.jpg)
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: jettawreck on January 05, 2018, 03:55:01 PM
Not much snow up in northern MN, but we are getting tired of the continuing cold (even though we are supposed to be "used to it"). We are going on the third week of many nights/mornings of sub-20*F and daytime highs often not getting above -0*F. The temp at my travel to work destination was -31 this morning and -24 upon leaving home. Was a bit nervous about the diesel fuel gelling up through the remote stretches but no issues there and back. A bit to the north, between home and the Canadian border saw a few official sub -40* F readings. Dangerous stuff, thankfully winds have generally been relatively mild.
Speptic system drainfield started to freeze up a while back so had to go buy a couple of the 1000# straw bales to cover/insulate it from the cold. So far, so good. Warming a bit this weekend (getting out of the single digits) and maybe 20*F by midweek before dropping into coldness some more.
The battery on the Honda wanted no part of the assistance from the charger, showing a fault. I think when it warms up it will be ok as I've had the charger "fault" before on various batteries when it's too cold.
Title: Re: Got cold!
Post by: Conrad on January 06, 2018, 07:17:52 AM
Minus 10F here at the moment.

Just 5 miles to the west of me they have minus 19F! That town always has lower temps than just about any place near. The town is in a low area and the cold pools there.   

As far as snow goes, we have around 6" of VERY fine snow on the ground.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: O.C. on January 06, 2018, 07:51:23 AM
We had a good 6" of snow about 3 weeks ago which hung around for about a week or so, before it thawed and then immediately froze....that was good fun...NOT, and yeahg I did manage to fall and sustain some bruises and pulled muscles


There has been very heavy rain and storms this last week with some damage and power outages across a wide area here in Northern Ireland

Today the weather is truly stunning and I even thought that I might go for a ride, BUT despite clear blue skies it is very...very cold , about 2c so I decided that factoring in the wind chill that it would be well below 0c

SO I WIMPED OUT  :-[   
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: maxtog on January 06, 2018, 08:32:30 AM
15F last night.  10F tonight.  Car still stuck in garage.  Still stranded at home, now until Tuesday :(
They plowed all the main roads, and even the secondaries, but not my neighborhood- none of which matters anyway, because my driveway is hopeless.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Conrad on January 06, 2018, 08:52:53 AM
15F last night.  10F tonight.  Car still stuck in garage.  Still stranded at home, now until Tuesday :(
They plowed all the main roads, and even the secondaries, but not my neighborhood- none of which matters anyway, because my driveway is hopeless.

Shoveling snow is a good aerobic workout.   
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: maxtog on January 06, 2018, 09:42:49 AM
Shoveling snow is a good aerobic workout.

When it originally fell, it was a mix, so it froze solid on the bottom.  I simply don't have the energy (or correct tools) to remove it.  My driveway is short but steep and has a particularly difficult connection to the road, which is also not clear, and there is also a buried park car on the opposite side of the street.   G37S is rear-wheel drive with little ground clearance.   I have been stuck trying to get out of the driveway in the past in similar conditions.

So I am just not desperate enough to expend the energy or take the risk.  So, stuck I am!
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 06, 2018, 10:25:11 AM
When it originally fell, it was a mix, so it froze solid on the bottom.  I simply don't have the energy (or correct tools) to remove it.  My driveway is short but steep and has a particularly difficult connection to the road, which is also not clear, and there is also a buried park car on the opposite side of the street.   G37S is rear-wheel drive with little ground clearance.   I have been stuck trying to get out of the driveway in the past in similar conditions.

So I am just not desperate enough to expend the energy or take the risk.  So, stuck I am!

It is unfortunate that kids these days are not willing to seize the opportunity to make money. When I was a kid... (wait, I must be getting old. I'm telling "when I was a kid" stories!)

Anyway, I made a killing going door to door shoveling snow. How else was a poor farm kid going to make money to pay for dirt bikes and parts?!?!
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: B.D.F. on January 06, 2018, 11:06:15 AM
FIFY  Conrad.  :rotflmao:

Moving snow out of the way is one of life's most useless tasks IMO. By June, all of it is gone anyway and so the entire process is pointless. A nature- provided, make- work project.

I now have two snowblowers and am not done yet 'cause both of them are horrible to use. The first was a 29" Craftsman (made by AYP) and I 'stepped in it' pretty badly when I bought it because I did not realize it has a locked axle. So maneuvering the thing is a true horror show and exhausting. Then I bought a tracked Honda, going to the very epitome of snowblowers to ease that problem and that one is nearly as hard to maneuver but worse, very difficult to set up and use on a crushed stone driveway because the cutting edge, and auger depth is adjustable and can be set to be too high or too low.  ::)  So now I am eye-balling another, and hopefully final, solution. I am going to try a set of polymer shoes, much longer than the stock setup and hopefully that may allow the Honda to be set to dig in but prevent it from actually digging into the stone. Honda has corrected all of these errors and situations but a new blower is close to $3K. Ariens has some that also seem like they would work very well but frankly I am not confident that a middle- of- the- line model will be the solution and their top- of- the- line models are MORE than $3K. I would love to lease one for a season and 'test blow' (Easy Boys!) with it before actually buying one but that is not possible. And used Hondas are much less common than chicken's teeth, and the Ariens newer units are too new to be showing up used yet.

Brian

Shoveling snow is a good aerobic workout..... that is enjoyable to watch others perform from the comfort of one's living room, preferably with the wood stove loaded and humming along.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: B.D.F. on January 06, 2018, 11:10:03 AM
This is where / when 4WD, especially with a low- range transfer case, comes in handy. My wife's car will not move but mine will.

Normally I blow the snow out of the driveway but between the low temps. and extreme wind, I am ignoring it for a couple of days. It <might> be sufficiently calm tomorrow to clean things up. Nothing worse than blowing powdery snow on a windy day 'cause about a third of everything that goes through the blower goes down the user's neck, or so it seems.

Brian

When it originally fell, it was a mix, so it froze solid on the bottom.  I simply don't have the energy (or correct tools) to remove it.  My driveway is short but steep and has a particularly difficult connection to the road, which is also not clear, and there is also a buried park car on the opposite side of the street.   G37S is rear-wheel drive with little ground clearance.   I have been stuck trying to get out of the driveway in the past in similar conditions.

So I am just not desperate enough to expend the energy or take the risk.  So, stuck I am!
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: just gone on January 06, 2018, 11:22:55 AM
I made a killing going door to door shoveling snow. How else was a poor farm kid going to make money to pay for dirt bikes and parts?!?!

Farms must have been different then? I recall them being far apart, and the door to door thing would have been a 20 mile hike for maybe 10 doors.

Now in the urban areas, we* (*poor urban kids needing alley minibike money) already had a job delivering newspapers door to door in the snow that wasn't shoveled yet. We had big carts with 36" wheels and when those wouldn't go (they went pretty well as they had skinny wheels and high clearance {similar to, but much better than, these (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_mqxFgbQ9jw/WVKL5XIIg2I/AAAAAAABMKQ/9SJGz2YZ38sirNUFbK5j02uL-Vp-NCC_QCLcBGAs/s1600/PHOTO%2B-%2BCHICAGO%2B-%2BNEWSBOYS%2BWITH%2BTHEIR%2BDELIVERY%2BCARTS%2BFULL%2BOF%2BROLLED%2BPAPERS%2B-%2BLAKE%2BAND%2BLARAMIE%2B-%2B1934%2B-%2BEDITED%2BFROM%2BTHE%2BCHICAGOLOGY%2BSITE.jpg)}), we had some sleds. I only had to use a sled on one day. I hated the sled because it would only hold about one fifth of my route before it would sink too far in the snow, so it required 4 extra trips back to the "barn" (a big city commercial garage really) to reload. The next time a sled day occurred I took half a load out in the cart then came back and reloaded just once. I finished before all the others(all using sleds) by 90 minutes and I was the only one from our "barn" to get to school on time that day. To the best of my knowledge they stacked up the sleds and didn't use them again after that.
 Now I think the papers there are all* (*probably not that many, as newspapers seem to be dying out as it seems only old people read them) delivered by adults in SUVs.

When I was a kid... (wait, I must be getting old. I'm telling "when I was a kid" stories!)
Welcome to the club, you young whippersnapper!  :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 06, 2018, 12:20:16 PM
Farms must have been different then? I recall them being far apart, and the door to door thing would have been a 20 mile hike for maybe 10 doors.

Now in the urban areas, we* (*poor urban kids needing alley minibike money) already had a job delivering newspapers door to door in the snow that wasn't shoveled yet. We had big carts with 36" wheels and when those wouldn't go (they went pretty well as they had skinny wheels and high clearance {similar to, but much better than, these (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_mqxFgbQ9jw/WVKL5XIIg2I/AAAAAAABMKQ/9SJGz2YZ38sirNUFbK5j02uL-Vp-NCC_QCLcBGAs/s1600/PHOTO%2B-%2BCHICAGO%2B-%2BNEWSBOYS%2BWITH%2BTHEIR%2BDELIVERY%2BCARTS%2BFULL%2BOF%2BROLLED%2BPAPERS%2B-%2BLAKE%2BAND%2BLARAMIE%2B-%2B1934%2B-%2BEDITED%2BFROM%2BTHE%2BCHICAGOLOGY%2BSITE.jpg)}), we had some sleds. I only had to use a sled on one day. I hated the sled because it would only hold about one fifth of my route before it would sink too far in the snow, so it required 4 extra trips back to the "barn" (a big city commercial garage really) to reload. The next time a sled day occurred I took half a load out in the cart then came back and reloaded just once. I finished before all the others(all using sleds) by 90 minutes and I was the only one from our "barn" to get to school on time that day. To the best of my knowledge they stacked up the sleds and didn't use them again after that.
 Now I think the papers there are all* (*probably not that many, as newspapers seem to be dying out as it seems only old people read them) delivered by adults in SUVs.
Welcome to the club, you young whippersnapper!  :chugbeer:

Farm was just out side the "city limits" of a small farm town (population 2700). My family didn't own the farm, but I worked on it growing up before we moved into the small farm town. Still did some occasional work there after we moved into town when I wasn't mowing lawns, detasselling corn, and other side jobs.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: gPink on January 06, 2018, 12:42:16 PM
Detasseling corn?  You sound like a central ILL-inois boy.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 06, 2018, 12:57:56 PM
Detasseling corn?  You sound like a central ILL-inois boy.

Exactly!

I grew up between the corn field and the soybean field.  :rotflmao:  I was only a stones throw from the geographical center of Illinois. Left as soon as I finished high school. I go back occasionally to visit family that still live there.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: gPink on January 06, 2018, 01:22:21 PM
McLean and Woodford for me. Further south now...don't get back much.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 06, 2018, 01:34:13 PM
McLean and Woodford for me. Further south now...don't get back much.

Mason County here.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on January 06, 2018, 04:05:15 PM
bought the el cheapo Troy blower in 2011 when we moved back to the land of "lake effect" snows, and never had an issue with it...   so other than fuel, I have about $90 per year invested in my machine, which starts first time everytime...
love the fact it's a "plug in" starter, simply plug the end of my extension cord directly into a shielded set of blades, push the throttle lever, pump the bulb 5 times, and hit the button... vrooooooom...
love it.
we got blasted a couple times last year, and since christmas this year i think we had an accumulation of about 18"... childs play for the machine....
I even cut pathways thru the yard, so the dog can get out and poop away from the house... she is getting old.. and can't get thru the snow....

last years snow...
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on January 06, 2018, 04:17:18 PM
this year is much colder... we just got above 0*, and will have a heat wave this week, getting into 20* zone tomorrow... after single digits or negative ones, for the last week and a half...

new years eve picture of snow...wasn't too bad...

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180101/e58155e56f2ba7b2a1d39e6d8ce12178.jpg)

SO much for my "pepper garden"..hehehehehh

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180101/ca49835573acdb737bfa9da1efc63232.jpg)
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: zrx mitch on January 06, 2018, 06:13:13 PM
What is this snow stuff you fellas keep mentioning?

                     Signed, I rode every day this week.  8)






PS - danged glad we're not retired and living in SW Va yet.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Pilgrim on January 07, 2018, 06:18:32 AM
this year is much colder... we just got above 0*, and will have a heat wave this week, getting into 20* zone tomorrow... after single digits or negative ones, for the last week and a half...

new years eve picture of snow...wasn't too bad...

SO much for my "pepper garden"..hehehehehh


Your pepper garden will be fine.   Snow is the poor man's fertilizer, according to the Old Farmer's Almanac.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on January 07, 2018, 11:43:03 AM
What is this snow stuff you fellas keep mentioning?

                     Signed, I rode every day this week.  8)






PS - danged glad we're not retired and living in SW Va yet.

Worst I ever saw, living there north of Richmond, was about 15"-18" dump, Once, and gone in 4 days...
youre safe in SW Va., for sure...

just remember, don't go for milk, bread, or breakfast foods during an Ice storm... go buy gasoline, and Liquor...and beer, propane tank fills,  and snack foods... before the power goes off.....

living next to Caroline Cty Prison, my power was never out longer than 10 hours or so, even during hurricanes and schmutz....   living in the boondocks we learned quickly to fill a couple 25 gallon toters in the bathtub, for toilet flushing water and such, and keep our "bugout" campstove/lanterns/propane cylinders/and chainsaw gas ready and accessable...at all times, and if a hurricane was blowing in, a gallon of booze and two bags of ice.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 07, 2018, 01:06:30 PM
This article was originally published in January 2010. The forecast information is not correct, but Richmonders' reaction to any snow on the way is.

According to the Richmond Times-Dispatch and every meteorologist in town, Richmond is going to get a nice snowfall this weekend … up to a foot, some people say.  (You can find the latest forecast here).

In case you're new to Richmond, let me tell you how we do it here.

Someone somewhere says snow is coming to Central Virginia.
We Richmonders start paying attention.
Someone says it's coming to Richmond.
We Richmonders really start paying attention.
Someone brandishes the word "accumulation."
Done. Finished. Over. We who call Richmond home all-out lose our minds. In the case of this snow, it happens like this:

Tuesday morning: The word "accumulation" is used.

Tuesday afternoon: Accumulation confirmed. All weekend plans put on stand-by or out-right canceled.

Tuesday evening: First trip to supermarket for bread, milk, wine, beer and cookie dough.

Wednesday morning / afternoon: Calls around town for sleds begin (for the record, Richmond.com is one step ahead. No one has them; Pleasant's is expecting a shipment on Friday).

Wednesday evening: Local news does a story about the run on supermarkets for bread and milk. Second trip to supermarket for extra bread and milk, plus frozen pizzas and non-perishables, because you never know.

Thursday morning / afternoon: Spend workday obsessively checking the forecast. More calls for sleds. Search online for sleds, but decide against them because you can't believe how much sleds actually cost.

Thursday evening: Meet friends out for drinks or dinner because you never know when you'll get out again. Realize you forgot to buy bagels. How could you forget bagels? Third trip to supermarket.

Friday morning: Alternate staring out window for snow and consulting forecast for exact snow start time. Cancel the rest of weekend plans.

Friday afternoon: Weather.com reports that it is snowing in your area. Run to window. Spend at least one hour yelling at weather.com because it is clearly not snowing. Ask boss about company inclement weather policy. Complain about said policy. Wait an hour; ask boss if company is closing early.


Friday evening: Fourth trip to supermarket on the way home for last-minute necessities, like chocolate and fancy hot cocoa. Alternate staring out window and watching local news for exact snow start time. Watch the Closings scroll to see if your work is closed on Monday, because you never know.

Friday night: Snow finally begins. Call/text all of your friends and family to see if it's snowing in their area and to make sure they're OK in the storm. Update Facebook status to reflect snowfall in case you missed anyone. Order pizza so you don't have to break into rations too soon.

Saturday morning: Marvel at snowfall. Fling pets / children into the snow so they can marvel and so you have pictures for your Facebook page.

Saturday afternoon: Drive or trudge to nearest hill and attempt to sled on a cookie sheet/shower curtain/trashcan lid/pool float.

Saturday evening: Meet friends for out for drinks or dinner to celebrate snow.

Sunday: Eat leftover pizza and stare out window, watching snow melt. Obsessively watch Closings list. Feel happy when the county you once lived in announces closing and then sad because you never became a teacher and now you have to go out, clean off the car and then go to work tomorrow. Plus you've got all that bread and milk to eat.

This article was originally published in January 2010. The forecast information is not correct, but Richmonders reaction to any snow on the way is.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: zrx mitch on January 07, 2018, 01:09:11 PM
Yes sir, lived in Asheville NC during a couple of blizzards. More than 20' of the white stuff combined with the wind made it interesting, it took 4 days to get out of the neighborhood. In Houston now (again) and now all about hurricane, or even just flood, survival. Ike in 2008 we were without water for 5 days and power for a week, areas a mile from us were without for 2+ weeks.  :yikes:
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on January 07, 2018, 01:29:36 PM
This article was originally published in January 2010. The forecast information is not correct, but Richmonders' reaction to any snow on the way is.

According to the Richmond Times-Dispatch and every meteorologist in town, Richmond is going to get a nice snowfall this weekend … up to a foot, some people say.  (You can find the latest forecast here).

In case you're new to Richmond, let me tell you how we do it here.

Someone somewhere says snow is coming to Central Virginia.
We Richmonders start paying attention.
Someone says it's coming to Richmond.
We Richmonders really start paying attention.
Someone brandishes the word "accumulation."
Done. Finished. Over. We who call Richmond home all-out lose our minds. In the case of this snow, it happens like this:

Tuesday morning: The word "accumulation" is used.

Tuesday afternoon: Accumulation confirmed. All weekend plans put on stand-by or out-right canceled.

Tuesday evening: First trip to supermarket for bread, milk, wine, beer and cookie dough.

Wednesday morning / afternoon: Calls around town for sleds begin (for the record, Richmond.com is one step ahead. No one has them; Pleasant's is expecting a shipment on Friday).

Wednesday evening: Local news does a story about the run on supermarkets for bread and milk. Second trip to supermarket for extra bread and milk, plus frozen pizzas and non-perishables, because you never know.

Thursday morning / afternoon: Spend workday obsessively checking the forecast. More calls for sleds. Search online for sleds, but decide against them because you can't believe how much sleds actually cost.

Thursday evening: Meet friends out for drinks or dinner because you never know when you'll get out again. Realize you forgot to buy bagels. How could you forget bagels? Third trip to supermarket.

Friday morning: Alternate staring out window for snow and consulting forecast for exact snow start time. Cancel the rest of weekend plans.

Friday afternoon: Weather.com reports that it is snowing in your area. Run to window. Spend at least one hour yelling at weather.com because it is clearly not snowing. Ask boss about company inclement weather policy. Complain about said policy. Wait an hour; ask boss if company is closing early.


Friday evening: Fourth trip to supermarket on the way home for last-minute necessities, like chocolate and fancy hot cocoa. Alternate staring out window and watching local news for exact snow start time. Watch the Closings scroll to see if your work is closed on Monday, because you never know.

Friday night: Snow finally begins. Call/text all of your friends and family to see if it's snowing in their area and to make sure they're OK in the storm. Update Facebook status to reflect snowfall in case you missed anyone. Order pizza so you don't have to break into rations too soon.

Saturday morning: Marvel at snowfall. Fling pets / children into the snow so they can marvel and so you have pictures for your Facebook page.

Saturday afternoon: Drive or trudge to nearest hill and attempt to sled on a cookie sheet/shower curtain/trashcan lid/pool float.

Saturday evening: Meet friends for out for drinks or dinner to celebrate snow.

Sunday: Eat leftover pizza and stare out window, watching snow melt. Obsessively watch Closings list. Feel happy when the county you once lived in announces closing and then sad because you never became a teacher and now you have to go out, clean off the car and then go to work tomorrow. Plus you've got all that bread and milk to eat.

This article was originally published in January 2010. The forecast information is not correct, but Richmonders reaction to any snow on the way is.

 I guess you missed the part about buyin a gallon of liquor, and going home.. maybe some hotdogs and buns picked up also.... and cut some woood in the "back yard."


f'ing virginian's just don't get it...
a) 75 MPH ain't gonna work butt wipes...
b) get cigs, and anything that will be cashed out thru a register, BEFORE the power goes out...
c) Richmond weather forecasters are total douches//// and if you can actually get the richmond forcast on satellite, out "yonder" good luck... they never had a clue about the flooding in the "bottom".. oh yah. a'holes..

d) when this weather hits... grab a rifle, go out and kill animals... you don't need a license, just kill them, bring them home... and eat them... mmmmmm best cooked over an open fire... which you constructed from firewood you cut with your chainsaw, and are all standing around to keep warm..  mmmmm
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 07, 2018, 02:00:40 PM
I guess you missed the part about buyin a gallon of liquor, and going home.. maybe some hotdogs and buns picked up also.... and cut some woood in the "back yard."


f'ing virginian's just don't get it...
a) 75 MPH ain't gonna work butt wipes...
b) get cigs, and anything that will be cashed out thru a register, BEFORE the power goes out...
c) Richmond weather forecasters are total douches//// and if you can actually get the richmond forcast on satellite, out "yonder" good luck... they never had a clue about the flooding in the "bottom".. oh yah. a'holes..

d) when this weather hits... grab a rifle, go out and kill animals... you don't need a license, just kill them, bring them home... and eat them... mmmmmm best cooked over an open fire... which you constructed from firewood you cut with your chainsaw, and are all standing around to keep warm..  mmmmm

Yeah, I get a good laugh every winter here. The way everything closes even before the first flake falls. My first winter here, everything closed because snow was forecasted. Never saw a single flake.

Same winter we got a light dusting and everything closed up early. I was a single parent at the time, so I took advantage of the time off to run some errands. Problem was, everything was closed. Stopped to buy groceries. Got everything I needed except bread and milk. Store was out of both. Stopped at another store. They were out too. Stopped off at a Ukrops. They were also out of both, but there was an employee working back by the dairy section. I told him that this was the third store I had stoped at and no one has any bread or milk. He looked at me like I had 3 heads and said sarcastically, "yeah... it's snowing". I then asked if the delivery truck had been in an accident. He just laughed and said "you're not from around here are you?"  He then explained the bread and milk issue here when it snows. That was the winter of 2000-2001. Personally, I still don't get it, but I've excepted that is the way things are here.

I lived close to the Illinois, Wisconsin border before I moved here. Last winter there, we got 36" of snow from Saturday night to Monday morning. NOTHING closed! There wasn't even a delayed start for school kids. Then I move to Richmond. Never thought there would be such a culture shock moving to a different part of the country.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on January 07, 2018, 03:26:10 PM
bwaaaahaaaaaa

WTF do you care about bread and Milk? really? WTF is with those people that buy that? they gonna make milk sammiches? i have no idea.... send the kids out to strangle rabbits, and squirrels... make them work.....mmmmmmmmm them cats are looking tasty.....ooooops sorry....... i always hit the frozen food section, bought crap in tin based containers like  lasagna and such, and oatmeal...

Virginians have no clue... sorry bro, it's a fact....
my "pet" Eagle had no conscious,,, it eats....
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: maxtog on January 07, 2018, 03:57:32 PM
Someone brandishes the word "accumulation." Done. Finished. Over. We who call Richmond home all-out lose our minds.

As being born/raised in Richmond, I can attest that is true.  And it snows much more frequently in Richmond.... compared to Hampton Roads.  So as funny/crazy as it is in Richmond, it is 10 times worse here.  It usually only snows 2-3 times a year and it is usually (believe it or not) when it is ABOVE freezing, and it is gone quickly.  A snow that accumulates with several days of solid, sub-freezing temps paralyzes the entire region (which is what just happened).  And lord help us when it is freezing snows, then thaws and then RE freezes as sheets of ice.  We have so many bridges and tunnels and crap, and so few crews to deal with it, the situation just becomes hopeless.  Layer all that with tons of people/traffic and never ending road construction, and.... fun.

Anyway, temps in the 40's tomorrow and rain, so hopefully I will be "unstuck" from my house, soon.  Not that I really have to go anywhere... but there is something yucky about knowing you can't leave, even when you don't have the need.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 07, 2018, 05:00:37 PM
bwaaaahaaaaaa

WTF do you care about bread and Milk? really? WTF is with those people that buy that? they gonna make milk sammiches? i have no idea.... send the kids out to strangle rabbits, and squirrels... make them work.....mmmmmmmmm them cats are looking tasty.....ooooops sorry....... i always hit the frozen food section, bought crap in tin based containers like  lasagna and such, and oatmeal...

Virginians have no clue... sorry bro, it's a fact....
my "pet" Eagle had no conscious,,, it eats....

I could care less about bread and milk. I'm good with those tin based frozen food products too. Power goes out, I'll cook on the wood stove. At the time, I was a single parent and my boys were in grade school. They liked thier cereal with milk in the morning. If it wasn't for them, I would have just gone home after the first store was out. If I had, I wouldn't have that story to tell tho.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: just gone on January 07, 2018, 05:12:23 PM
bwaaaahaaaaaa

WTF do you care about bread and Milk? really? WTF is with those people that buy that? they gonna make milk sammiches? i have no idea.... send the kids out to strangle rabbits, and squirrels... make them work.....mmmmmmmmm them cats are looking tasty....

Virginians have no clue... sorry bro, it's a fact....


Gettin' kinda testy again eh MOB?...over snow?  ???  Someone put a potato in your snowblower exhaust or sumthin'?  :)
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on January 08, 2018, 04:52:56 PM
Gettin' kinda testy again eh MOB?...over snow?  ???  Someone put a potato in your snowblower exhaust or sumthin'?  :)

nahhhh
just bustin' balls...
I was born and raised on the shore of Lake Erie, home of Lake effect snow, and below zero temps for days (or sometimes a full month..) every few years..
we moved to Richmond for my job back in '01, pretty much gave up the "winter supplies" like mega cold wear gear, snow blower, etc., and found that Richmond area was very ignorant as to what a few days of inclement weather had, as for effecting movement and life...  That silly joke about Milk and Bread, ain't a joke there, it's a reality, driven by the weather forecasters when they say "we may get 2" of snow".... OMG... they close schools, and go into panic mode... but, do you think anyone would ever reduce thier speed on a road by 5 mph, just as a semblence of being a safe driver? nnoooooooo way... drive like you just got the Green flag on a Nascar race... pass everyone, drive like a maniac... it's really hilarious for all of us that live "up north"... (by the way, now we are back here, I cannot say I would EVER miss another freaking Hurricane, or Tropical "storm"...screw dat..)   I could only endure it for 10 years... and had to "go Home"
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: maxtog on January 08, 2018, 05:45:33 PM
(by the way, now we are back here, I cannot say I would EVER miss another freaking Hurricane, or Tropical "storm"...screw dat..)   I could only endure it for 10 years... and had to "go Home"

ROTFLOL  :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on January 11, 2018, 07:04:09 PM
ROTFLOL  :rotflmao:

and I know you remember Gaston, Charlie, and all the other storms in Va. from 2001 thru 2011...  Richmond got ravaged... and I'm glad to be back in the snow belt...
yes, it's all funny till you are in the middle of that cluster fark...
tropical storm, an hour inland from the ocean where I lived in Hanover Va., ohhhhh no problem.. yeah right... tree fell on my barn, with my bikes inside.. digging for those photos, but in the aftermath of Gaston, I took my Z bike out to find viable roads... there weren't any... I had to travel 5 miles north, to go anywhere south, east, or west... truly sucked donkeyballlz...

took almost 5 months for the repairs to make acceptable passage to work... man.
first pic was where a woman perished, as her car was carried UPSTREAM from a bridge collapse where I turned around and backtracked from.. the second pic is the actual bridge on 301, that was lifted completely off the stanchions, and was bouncing up and down as I approached and turned around...  I stopped, and blocked the road, lit flares, and backtracked... and notified the sherriff's of what I saw... mind you, this was during the height of the storm, and it was completely dark.... I never knew the woman in the car was there, and there was another drowning in a vehicle which I passed escaping the area.. which I never knew about either of which, till the next day.. godspeed to them... the rest are carnage...
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on January 11, 2018, 07:06:19 PM
 a little more
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: maxtog on January 11, 2018, 08:20:37 PM
AND today near 70.  Yet the snow/ice still not completely melted.  Tomorrow?  Rain.  Then gloomy.  And Monday when I go to RIC and have to spend a lot of time outside?  FREAKING COLD!  I think I will finally get a bike ride on Sat.

They are already now calling for snow on Wednesday.  Rinse and repeat?
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on January 11, 2018, 08:49:27 PM
AND today near 70.  Yet the snow/ice still not completely melted.  Tomorrow?  Rain.  Then gloomy.  And Monday when I go to RIC and have to spend a lot of time outside?  FREAKING COLD!  I think I will finally get a bike ride on Sat.

They are already now calling for snow on Wednesday.  Rinse and repeat?

I hear ya bro... we been in single digits mostly since christmas, then it warmed... then today we hit almost 60*... and tomorrow, when I go pick momma up from the airport, we will be in the middle of an epic ice/sleet/ snow storm, supposedly slamming us with another 8-10" over night... go figure... today was like spring, all my snow was melted... saturday morn, I'll be running the snowblower again, awaiting single digits...

fark.

Semper Fi...
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 11, 2018, 08:54:48 PM
AND today near 70.  Yet the snow/ice still not completely melted.  Tomorrow?  Rain.  Then gloomy.  And Monday when I go to RIC and have to spend a lot of time outside?  FREAKING COLD!  I think I will finally get a bike ride on Sat.

They are already now calling for snow on Wednesday.  Rinse and repeat?

I'm in the same boat. Hopefully, the rain will wash away all the salt and sand on the roads so I can get a ride in on Saturday. I've only got 250 miles on my Connie in 3 weeks that I've owned it. It is killing me to just have it sitting in the garage! When I bought my Magnum, I finished the break in miles and the first oil change the first weekend I owned it. The second weekend, I installed intake, cams, exhaust, timing wheel, PCV, had it dyno tuned, Along with several other mods. This weather sucks!!!
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 14, 2018, 11:03:24 AM
I waited around yesterday for the roads to dry up after the rain, then got a short ride in. High temp for the day was around 60 at sunrise and dropped to 17 at night. Only rode about 120 miles before the temps dropped to the point it was unbearable. At least I got some riding in tho! The ODO is up to 370 miles now. Can't wait until we get some warm days for riding!
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: maxtog on January 14, 2018, 11:56:49 AM
I waited around yesterday for the roads to dry up after the rain, then got a short ride in. High temp for the day was around 60 at sunrise and dropped to 17 at night. Only rode about 120 miles before the temps dropped to the point it was unbearable. At least I got some riding in tho! The ODO is up to 370 miles now. Can't wait until we get some warm days for riding!

Yep.  Here yesterday I woke to sunny and 65F!!  The hard rain the previous days had cleared everything and most stuff dry.  Did a few chores and took a shower.  When I was done, suddenly the temperate had plunged 20 degrees, it was dark, and very windy.  By the time I could have taken a ride, it just got worse (below freezing) and I didn't bother.  :(
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Classvino on January 15, 2018, 03:46:56 PM
Yup.  Same here - we had some unseasonably warn weather near the end of last week... 

I think we may have actually gotten as high as +1 or +2 degrees C (34 F) a couple times before it started getting back to normal -10 to -15.

Crazy, I know.  My neighbour called me a liar. I have to admit that my measurement method was extremely unorthodox and entirely unofficial - the thermometer was in the sun, protected from any wind. 

Jamie
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Rhino on January 16, 2018, 04:38:41 PM
Had my first "snow day" here in Austin TX. They actually closed the building. Of course it was more about ice than snow but we did get some snow. High of 25 at my house. And the storm last night sounded like I was back in Colorado.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: maxtog on January 16, 2018, 04:52:38 PM
Ug, they are calling for snow here tomorrow.  But it looks like just several hours.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: B.D.F. on January 16, 2018, 05:02:35 PM
Here too but we measure our snow in inches  / feet and they are only calling for 3".

:-)

My youngest son lives in northern VA and refuses to buy a snow shovel. They had one storm that they had to dig out with a..... dustpan. About 6" to 8". And he still refuses to buy a snow shovel so I am waiting to see how tough (or is it stupid?) he really is?  ;D

Just got new style skids for my snowblower and I am hoping these things do the trick. Crushed stone driveway and the small skids catch, bounce and dig in all over the place. New ones are a foot long and so should bridge several rock edges and make something of an 'average' out of it.

Brian

Ug, they are calling for snow here tomorrow.  But it looks like just several hours.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 16, 2018, 05:19:36 PM
Here too but we measure our snow in inches  / feet and they are only calling for 3".

:-)

My youngest son lives in northern VA and refuses to buy a snow shovel. They had one storm that they had to dig out with a..... dustpan. About 6" to 8". And he still refuses to buy a snow shovel so I am waiting to see how tough (or is it stupid?) he really is?  ;D

Brian

Not having a snow shovel in VA is not really a big issue as long as you stock up on bread and milk.

Hahaha! Sorry, couldn't resist. Honestly tho, it isn't that big of a deal. The snow never last long due to the big temperature shifts we have here all winter long. EVERYTHING closes and very few venture out. Most places don't reopen until the snow is gone. (No, that wasn't a typo) once the snow melts, they re-open. 3" of snow can shut down schools for an entire week! It's insane! He will be fine with the dustpan. No need to shovel when there is no where to go.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: B.D.F. on January 16, 2018, 05:23:50 PM
Well he had to shovel to get two cars out for he and his wife to go to work, so not <everything> was closed.

But yeah, snow is one of those things that varies hugely depending on where a person is; I have relatives in northern VT and they eat through 2' snowfalls and go to work. Two feet would shut us down here in RI, but we can deal with 8" to 10" OK, and that same amount would devastate VA and all of the southern seaboard states. So everything is relative.

By the way, the folks I know in VT has a snowblower with dualies on it- never even saw one of those around here. That thing must be 50" + wide, and by the end of the season, they literally run out of places to put the snow they are moving from the driveway, walks, etc.

Brian

Not having a snow shovel in VA is not really a big issue as long as you stock up on bread and milk.

Hahaha! Sorry, couldn't resist. Honestly tho, it isn't that big of a deal. The snow never last long due to the big temperature shifts we have here all winter long. EVERYTHING closes and very few venture out. Most places don't reopen until the snow is gone. (No, that wasn't a typo) once the snow melts, they re-open. 3" of snow can shut down schools for an entire week! It's insane! He will be fine with the dustpan. No need to shovel when there is no where to go.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: lather on January 16, 2018, 08:16:19 PM
2nd heavy snow in the Bayou State this winter. I think that is a first in my lifetime, at least the 60 years I remember of it. Historically we get snow once every 3 or four years.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: maxtog on January 16, 2018, 10:10:31 PM
Here too but we measure our snow in inches  / feet and they are only calling for 3".

Here they have already speculatively closed all the schools!  The nightmare projection?  1-2", maybe.

BTW- it flurried on my way to RIC on Monday... very unexpected, not a word I saw about it in the forecast.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: O.C. on January 17, 2018, 04:24:05 AM
650 homes without power here and many schools closed today, about 4" snow fell yesterday evening when I took this slightly out of focus picture of our back garden....more snow fell over night and even more forecast today and tomorrow


(http://i67.tinypic.com/29ntpv6.jpg)   
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 17, 2018, 05:36:11 AM
Schools closed in King George but the roads appear to be ok.  Sand and salt have done their work. 
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: maxtog on January 17, 2018, 03:32:37 PM
Snowing here now, finally.  Started at about 4 and have an inch so far.  Walked home from work and then used my umbrella to pull the snow off the motorcycle tent.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: B.D.F. on January 17, 2018, 03:40:35 PM
Got an inch of snow here- it is a non- event. Temps. so high (36F) that all the snow is melting off everything but the driveway and an inch of snow is not worth bothering with.

Brian
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Conniesaki on January 17, 2018, 04:20:08 PM
Dec 2016 I drove around Detroit for a work project, and then thru Sarnia into Canada and all over that farmland area north side of Lake Erie ... from Sarnia to Chatham-Kent, Leamington, Lakeshore ... wind mill country, flat and windy ... and cold. Well I'm from FL, and had no experience driving in snow/ice. One evening on a long, straight, flat road where I could see for miles ahead since no trees, as I approached the stop sign at a tee, I pressed the brakes in my Titan .. and nothing. What the?? Are they frozen? Are the completely gone?? I got absolutely nothing, and my ABS didn't chatter either. Pumped the brakes and still no response at all. I was able to steer every so slightly to get the right side tires off the road and into the snow beside the pavement ... and ended up stopping with my front bumper exactly over top of the white line of the crossing road ... right as a car whizzed by. YIKES. Panic. Heart racing. PHEW. OK ... WHAT THE?? I opened my door, put a foot down, and my foot immediately shot out from under me and I banged my elbow on the truck and my other knee on the ice covered pavement. OUCH. OK, so then I knew I was sliding on ice so smooth it didn't even trigger my ABS.

I drove a loooooooooot slower after that  :-\

Now I have experience driving on ice. I do not recommend it  :-[
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 17, 2018, 04:42:11 PM
Dec 2016 I drove around Detroit for a work project, and then thru Sarnia into Canada and all over that farmland area north side of Lake Erie ... from Sarnia to Chatham-Kent, Leamington, Lakeshore ... wind mill country, flat and windy ... and cold. Well I'm from FL, and had no experience driving in snow/ice. One evening on a long, straight, flat road where I could see for miles ahead since no trees, as I approached the stop sign at a tee, I pressed the brakes in my Titan .. and nothing. What the?? Are they frozen? Are the completely gone?? I got absolutely nothing, and my ABS didn't chatter either. Pumped the brakes and still no response at all. I was able to steer every so slightly to get the right side tires off the road and into the snow beside the pavement ... and ended up stopping with my front bumper exactly over top of the white line of the crossing road ... right as a car whizzed by. YIKES. Panic. Heart racing. PHEW. OK ... WHAT THE?? I opened my door, put a foot down, and my foot immediately shot out from under me and I banged my elbow on the truck and my other knee on the ice covered pavement. OUCH. OK, so then I knew I was sliding on ice so smooth it didn't even trigger my ABS.

I drove a loooooooooot slower after that  :-\

Now I have experience driving on ice. I do not recommend it  :-[

Me and a friend in high school use to make extra money during christmas break pulling people that were visiting from down south for the holidays out of the ditches. I grew up in Illinois farm country where the closest major town was about 35 miles away. Tow trucks were not something you would see in that area. We never charged anyone, but they would always pay us something for helping them.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: maxtog on January 17, 2018, 04:45:24 PM
as I approached the stop sign at a tee, I pressed the brakes in my Titan .. and nothing. What the?? Are they frozen? Are the completely gone?? I got absolutely nothing, and my ABS didn't chatter either. Pumped the brakes and still no response at all. I was able to steer every so slightly to get the right side tires off the road and into the snow beside the pavement ... and ended up stopping with my front bumper exactly over top of the white line of the crossing road ... right as a car whizzed by. YIKES. Panic. Heart racing. PHEW. OK ... WHAT THE?? I opened my door, put a foot down, and my foot immediately shot out from under me and I banged my elbow on the truck and my other knee on the ice covered pavement. OUCH. OK, so then I knew I was sliding on ice so smooth it didn't even trigger my ABS.

That is strange, I would think it should have triggered your ABS unless it was just broken!  Or is it somehow possible to fool it by locking all 4 wheels at exactly the same time (so it doesn't know you are actually moving anymore)?
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 17, 2018, 04:51:58 PM
That is strange, I would think it should have triggered your ABS unless it was just broken!  Or is it somehow possible to fool it by locking all 4 wheels at exactly the same time (so it doesn't know you are actually moving anymore)?

Normally the tires regain traction when the abs pulses off. If there is no traction to be had, I imagine the tires would not rotate, therefore, you wouldn't feel the pulsing of the ABS. The wheel has to turn for it to work. 
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 17, 2018, 05:25:38 PM
We've gotten 2-3 inches of snow here. Just enough for them to make a total mess of the roads with salt and sand again. I'll be glad when winter is finally over!!! Here are a couple pictures my wife took this afternoon of our side and front yard.

(http://www.thevog.net/attachments/fullsizerender-jpg.412945/)

(http://www.thevog.net/attachments/fullsizerender-jpg.412953/)

(http://www.thevog.net/attachments/fullsizerender-jpg.412961/)
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 17, 2018, 06:58:09 PM
Further south near the NC border, they got 7 inches..
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: maxtog on January 17, 2018, 09:38:57 PM
Further south near the NC border, they got 7 inches..

Almost midnight and still snowing... but not much.  I think we have maybe 2" now.  Friend in Chesapeake said they are at about 3.5" now.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Poseidon on January 19, 2018, 12:01:45 PM
53 degrees and sunny! They are calling for it to hit 60 degrees this weekend. Beautiful riding weather... but everything is covered in salt and sand.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: Conrad on February 08, 2018, 08:03:27 AM
Winter storm warning in place starting tonight @6 through tomorrow night @6 with additional amounts on Sat and Sun.

100% chance of snow, 6" to 14" with local heavier amounts possible plus whatever comes down over the weekend. This is on top of the 6 to 8" already on the ground.    :o
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: gPink on February 08, 2018, 08:26:51 AM
Supposed to be 45 and sunny today. Be glad to be rid of this 1/16 inch of ice from Tuesdays freezing rain.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 08, 2018, 09:47:04 AM
We got lucky, no freezing rain or snow or sleet...just rain.
Title: Re: Got snow!
Post by: jettawreck on February 09, 2018, 06:18:57 AM
Not much new snow lately other than the occasional dusting of nusience (?) snow now and then, but it's continued cold.
-18F this morning. Again. I actually usually like winter, but it's been a cold one up here this year.