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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2013, 05:59:58 AM »
So you now think it might be worth the price rather than "stealing" it?

Love all the photos you are posting!  They are not only interesting, but well-taken.  Quite the huge project.
(It is "manual" not "manuel") Well, it is a hell of a lot better written than the horrible owner's manual!
Little snippy aren't we Max?  ;) How do you know he didn't 'steal' it?

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2013, 06:11:41 AM »
Maybe there is such thing as victimless crime. Maybe Kawasaki will get plenty of my money in parts sales and can throw me a little discount….. many maybes  8)

And as far as spelling goes - perhaps it's parts cleaner fumes, or maybe 3am typing, or english being a second language… either way, this is not a spelling bee, but a bike re-build :D and I am too lazy to proofread.

Thans for a compliment on photography. It's a hobby of mine  :chugbeer:

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2013, 06:30:03 AM »
Max is Max... his mother still proof reads all his work  ;)
He rides the net instead of his bike ???
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2013, 06:41:53 AM »
It's coming up on Thanksgiving, guys.  Let's all think about that and post accordingly.. :)

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2013, 07:29:17 AM »
Can we go back to normal for Christmas?

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2013, 08:07:26 AM »
After the holidays for sure...
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2013, 02:16:04 PM »
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2013, 04:17:34 PM »
Little snippy aren't we Max?  ;) How do you know he didn't 'steal' it?

It is quite apparent from the postings and timings.
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2013, 04:19:41 PM »
Maybe there is such thing as victimless crime. Maybe Kawasaki will get plenty of my money in parts sales and can throw me a little discount….. many maybes  8)

Those are called "rationalizations"!

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And as far as spelling goes - perhaps it's parts cleaner fumes, or maybe 3am typing, or english being a second language… either way, this is not a spelling bee, but a bike re-build :D and I am too lazy to proofread.

Where are you?  Not in USA?  Sorry, will try to not be as picky.  But as others say "I am Max"!  As a language, English really sucks.  It is complicated and full of exceptions and inconsistencies, although it is very expressive and rich.

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Thans for a compliment on photography. It's a hobby of mine  :chugbeer:

I thought you were pretty good at that and it was more than just some quick snapshots.  I kept looking at your photos and thinking "damn these are really good photos".  I dabble in photography too; I have an Alpha 65 and thinking of upgrading (yet again) to a 99 (if it goes on sale because it is crazy expensive).

Your project is a HUGE one, it will be fun to watch your progress.
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2013, 04:21:23 PM »
Max is Max... his mother still proof reads all his work  ;)

Nah, but she did pester me as a kid about grammar.  Seemed to be one of her things that rubbed off on me.

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He rides the net instead of his bike ???

When it is damn freezing out, you got that right!  It is just plain nasty outside lately.  Cold, wet, dark, rainy, windy.  Blech.
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2013, 04:29:16 PM »
Enough.  Seriously.  Lets enjoy the resurrection without the false moral bravado.  Jim said what needed to be said and FWIW we do not need any more moderators. 

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2013, 04:29:39 PM »
- Are there any emissions / restriction bits that can be removed that are worth doing at this stage?

Missed that part.  Perhaps the catalytic convertors.... but that probably isn't really worth doing if you are not going to make other major changes to the exhaust... and then you will need to go outside the stock fuel mapping (with a PC commander, probably).  If you are really into making it fast and an even larger project then get a cat-free ZX header, put in an O2 sensor, and run a dual exhaust.
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2013, 04:31:29 PM »
Enough.  Seriously.  Lets enjoy the resurrection without the false moral bravado.  Jim said what needed to be said and FWIW we do not need any more moderators.

Now who is moderating.....  :)
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2013, 05:01:45 PM »
So….. today mission was getting valve cover off, and doing a valve check (possibly adjustment). It has been a while since I have done one. Most of my bike wrenching was done when I was racing two-stroke GP bikes (T250's and TZ125's). Luckely my buddy Brian was around working on his race car to keep me in check.

What a tight fit. At one point I even considered dropping the motor out. But that is way more work then I am ready for. So I kept taking bits off until valve cover slid out of the frame side. Shop manuel is pretty helpful. Just need to be patient.

Bike looks like it exploded:





Nice project. Fun to see pics and evolution of your work.

Is this a RD400 at the back ? looks cool
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2013, 05:24:58 PM »
Unless this bike was bought new in Cali, I don't think that there is any emissions stuff worth worrying about or disconnecting.  The Cali bikes had a charcoal canister so if you don't see that then I wouldn't worry about the emissions gear affecting anything.
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2013, 09:26:35 AM »
Missed that part.  Perhaps the catalytic convertors.... but that probably isn't really worth doing if you are not going to make other major changes to the exhaust... and then you will need to go outside the stock fuel mapping (with a PC commander, probably).  If you are really into making it fast and an even larger project then get a cat-free ZX header, put in an O2 sensor, and run a dual exhaust.


PLEASE MAX it's catalytic CONVERTERS NOT convertors :stirpot:
And NO you don't have to put in a 02 sensor with ZX headers with out catalytic convertERS or change the map , but the Guhl flash is nice ;) :thumbs:
I think most people would be surprised just how restrictive those two cats are (small little holes)
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2013, 12:18:17 PM »
PLEASE MAX it's catalytic CONVERTERS NOT convertors :stirpot:

Actually, either spelling is acceptable.  You may verify that with the following link: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/convertor?s=t  So put THAT in your pot and stir it!!

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And NO you don't have to put in a 02 sensor with ZX headers with out catalytic converters

I didn't say one HAD to, only it is probably the best route (because it can be autotuned).

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or change the map , but the Guhl flash is nice ;) :thumbs:

Indeed the Guhl flash is nice (I probably need to do that), but if I were replacing the headers and exhaust and having no cats, etc, I would probably go for autotuning.  Otherwise it is just a Guhl guess as to what the map should be (it is unlikely they would have the same bike config available).
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2013, 04:55:14 PM »
Happy Turkey Day everyone….   ;)

Max, I work as an Art Director for big ad agencies, so some photography comes with the territory, but honestly having a good lens is half the battle. Once bike will be back together I will post better photos. Right now I am just clicking on full auto without post editing.

I didn't do a good introduction here, did I? A little about myself: I live in Atlanta, GA, but grew up in Moscow, RU. I have been riding since 96. Done some WERA racing, some dirt racing, now old and scared only do touring. Since I started riding had about 45 various bikes. Currently I have 1998 TZ250, 1998 TZ125, 1988 Hawk GT, 1988 Ural 650, and 08 Connie. Here are some pics of the stable :)










So Connie was bought for a specific purpose - get it shipped to Moscow and ride across europe with my gf. We have done some fun trips together. Last one was two months across Mexico. We zigzagged from Atlanta to Cancun and back on a FZ1. So if everything goes well the currently broken Connie will see some good action.

Ok, enough for now. Back to changing fork oil.

Thanks for all your post and suggestions. Cheers
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2013, 05:12:44 PM »

Nice project. Fun to see pics and evolution of your work.

Is this a RD400 at the back ? looks cool

Thanks.

This old turdbucket is my friends. He ran out of garage space and it lives in my garage. Absolutely mint RD400. I will snap a few pics when daylight.


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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2013, 06:13:15 PM »
MOST EXCELLENT THREAD!   Bike Porn is just an added touch to a build thread


Please Alex disregard the threadjacking and continue.  And if you need me to share a service manual or a top secret this or that please let me know. H*ll if your near Tampa I'll come over and give you a hand...and bring some studio photography lighting (and a model, makeup, and hair artist too with enough notice) ;D
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