Fuel Economy assistance mode

[Rembrant]

What is this 'low fuel warning' you speak of?

 

Brian

HAHAHA! Touché!!

I actually have one of the low fuel warning eliminators, but since the guy's website sucks but since my C14 has mostly been parked this year, I haven't had a chance to install it and try it out.

Rem

[VirginiaJim]

 

[Rembrant]

I shouldn't pick on BDF...he's sensitive you know.

Actually...I was poking fun about another story...that's all...lol.

Rem

[Rhino]

One of the best farkles I've put on my bike is Brian's LFW eliminator. I don't know why but the LFW just pisses me off. I just hate that level of stupidity from engineers. I expect it from the rest of the world but not from engineers. The eliminator keeps me sane just a little while longer.

[B.D.F.]

Hey, you can tell that story here- it is hysterical IMO. Goes something like this:

New guy joins COG and comes into the forum like a tornado. Big, intense posts giving his take on everything and offering to clean up the whole world. Then he gets ahold on the KiPass bypass and wants to know more but the website sucks- except he says that FartyMarty's web site sucks. Which is funny 'cause that web site is mine. So I chime in and agree with new guy and say that Marty's website sucks and he should do a better job. In the meantime, new guy writes an e-mail to Marty on his website (which is really me on my website) that he wants a KiPass bypass but does not want to pay for it- he offered to trade fixing Marty's website instead. By this time, Marty and I are going back on the forum and signing our posts with the other's name (mine are signed Marty, his are signed Brian) and the whole thing is becoming funnier. I wrote as nice an e-mail as I could, suggesting that I did not think the product would do anything he found useful. He wrote back that HE would be the judge of that! Hysterical!

And then there is the story about the gentleman who threatened me because I would not tell him where to put [what value] resistor to "jump" out KiPass so he could start his bike. And that was after two (TWO!) very nice and gentle e-mails explaining KiPass cannot be "jumped" out of the system. Too funny.

Brian

I shouldn't pick on BDF...he's sensitive you know.

Actually...I was poking fun about another story...that's all...lol.

Rem

[B.D.F.]

Thanks for the kind words.

How long are you hoping for on the sanity? I only ask because had I known that, I would have used Teflon insulation on the LFWE you got. <kidding of course>

As far as engineers go, I knows some of dem guize and they are not to be trusted and they are capable of any level of failure IME. Why next to mathamagicians and penisists, I think injun- ears may have created more disastrous mistakes than any other single group of people. If it were up to me, I would put those folks who paint the lines on the roadways in charge of all design! I mean, you almost never see a mistake in the lines on the roads, right? Dem guize probably coulda' put a bridge across the Tacoma Narrows that would not have ended up IN the Tacoma Narrows in the same year I figures.

Brian

One of the best farkles I've put on my bike is Brian's LFW eliminator. I don't know why but the LFW just pisses me off. I just hate that level of stupidity from engineers. I expect it from the rest of the world but not from engineers. The eliminator keeps me sane just a little while longer.

[wally_games]

Technically, there is no "ECO Mode", it is called the "Fuel Economy Assistance Mode" (FEAM) everywhere in the manual.... but which Kawasaki stupidly labeled the "on" indicator as "ECO" just like the ECO riding indicator, just with a different background graphic and font.  Whichever engineer did that should be flogged.  No wonder some people are confused by it.  Couple that with a sprinkle of "Engrish" ( http://www.engrish.com ) and it makes it worse.

Well, actually, I think the ECO riding indicator also shows up when riding economically with FEAM activated too, doesn't it?

Yes, it can.

[Rhino]

Thanks for the kind words.

How long are you hoping for on the sanity? I only ask because had I known that, I would have used Teflon insulation on the LFWE you got. <kidding of course>

As far as engineers go, I knows some of dem guize and they are not to be trusted and they are capable of any level of failure IME. Why next to mathamagicians and penisists, I think injun- ears may have created more disastrous mistakes than any other single group of people. If it were up to me, I would put those folks who paint the lines on the roadways in charge of all design! I mean, you almost never see a mistake in the lines on the roads, right? Dem guize probably coulda' put a bridge across the Tacoma Narrows that would not have ended up IN the Tacoma Narrows in the same year I figures.

Brian

My sanity comes and goes depending on the next  thing I run into. Your farkle eliminates one of them. Thank you!

[maxtog]

One of the best farkles I've put on my bike is Brian's LFW eliminator. I don't know why but the LFW just pisses me off. I just hate that level of stupidity from engineers.

It is just as stupid as labeling the economical driving indicator display icon "ECO" and the FEAM display icon "ECO".  I guess we should be happy that since the word "Fuel" is in both the low fuel indicator AND in the FEAM name, they don't flash a huge "ECO" when you are low on fuel, too...

[Rembrant]

Hey Max...we've been dealing with all the names for the spare fobs all this time...lol. We're all used to this confusion no?...lol.

Spare Fob
Emergency Fob
Passive Fob
Credit Card Fob
Immobilizer Key
RF Fob
More?...lol

And that doesn't even include the main Keyfob...lol.

[just gone]

...... the LFW just pisses me off. I just hate that level of stupidity from engineers.

You might be blaming engineers for what Kawasaki's lawyers or liability insurer wanted on the bike.
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 As for the CO and ECO...that too may not be the engineers fault
but rather some translator pin head or perhaps two different translators that didn't know what the other was doing.

[Rhino]

You might be blaming engineers for what Kawasaki's lawyers or liability insurer wanted on the bike.
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 As for the CO and ECO...that too may not be the engineers fault
but rather some translator pin head or perhaps two different translators that didn't know what the other was doing.

I understand having a low fuel warning (although this is the only bike I have ridden that had it) but the implementation is stupid and dangerous. First, no need to take over the entire screen and make it flash. That's the dangerous part. It's so pervasive you can't help looking at it (takes your eyes off the road) and to cancel it you have to reach through the handle bars to manipulate 2 buttons (extremely dangerous). At the very least they should have allowed an acknowledgment and make it go away with a simple push of the page button on the front of the left grip. Several times I have caught myself reaching through the bars, not looking at the road trying to cancel it. I know my bad. Who knows, Brian's eliminator may have saved my life.

Sorry, rant over.

[maxtog]

Hey Max...we've been dealing with all the names for the spare fobs all this time...lol. We're all used to this confusion no?...lol.[...]And that doesn't even include the main Keyfob...lol.

Ug!!  Don't remind me.... or you will get my whining about how the so-called "credit card" fob has absolutely no resemblance, whatsoever, to a "credit card".  It isn't the same size, isn't the same weight, isn't the same function, isn't the same thickness, doesn't fit in a wallet, etc.

The manual calls it a "spare fob" which is less than brilliant, since it isn't necessarily a "spare" and what would you call the full-sized second fob that comes with the Gen 1?  Is that a "spare" too?  The best term is probably "passive fob", although that is a bit technical.  NOWHERE in any manual are the words "credit" or "credit card".  I think that ridiculous term started on some misguided marketing materials on the web, although I certainly can't find it anywhere now.

[Rhino]

I vote "passive fob" and "active" fob. Now I'll use it in a sentence: Gen I bikes came with 2 active fobs and Gen II bikes come with 1 active and 1 passive fob.

[tomp]

I have a Gen I,  and find nothing passive about it.  Sorry that you Gen II owners have that passive problem....

[gPink]

I have a Gen I,  and find nothing passive about it.  Sorry that you Gen II owners have that passive problem....

It's that old big fob little fob thing with the slower gen 2 owners.

[tomp]

It's that old big fob little fob thing with the slower gen 2 owners.

Sounds very troubling to me.  Isn't fob confusion an  AMA recognized mental problem?

[B.D.F.]

Agreed- the nomenclature here is a mess. And not through anyone's particular fault, it gets worse 'cause an active fob contains a passive fob inside it. A classic case of the words getting in the way of the meaning.

It probably does not help that all of it was made and named in Japan and then re- named in English (and German, and French, and..... well you know what I mean). This system is probably a naming convention mess in dozens of countries.

Now bashing it with a rock, I think that makes the translation quite well.

Brian

Hey Max...we've been dealing with all the names for the spare fobs all this time...lol. We're all used to this confusion no?...lol.

Spare Fob
Emergency Fob
Passive Fob
Credit Card Fob
Immobilizer Key
RF Fob
More?...lol

And that doesn't even include the main Keyfob...lol.

[tomp]

Wow, Brian!  Does that mean that Gen I owners may have active/passive FOB confusion, too???

[martin_14]

Agreed- the nomenclature here is a mess. And not through anyone's particular fault, it gets worse 'cause an active fob contains a passive fob inside it. A classic case of the words getting in the way of the meaning.

naaaah, let's blame Maxtog