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Mish mash => Open Forum => Topic started by: Conrad on February 07, 2018, 04:29:46 AM
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An incredible accomplishment! Not just the perfect launch of the main rocket but the return, with precision, of two of the side boosters to the landing pads.
If you didn't see it yesterday you really should watch, it gave me goosebumps!
(https://news.astronet.pl/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/falconheavy.jpg)
(https://ourplnt.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Falcon-Heavy-Test-Flight-Side-Cores-landing.jpg)
http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/06/technology/future/spacex-falcon-heavy-launch-mainbar/index.html (http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/06/technology/future/spacex-falcon-heavy-launch-mainbar/index.html)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCc16uozHVE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCc16uozHVE)
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I want my money back.
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Have a listen to this while you wait for it G.
David Bowie – Space Oddity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYYRH4apXDo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYYRH4apXDo)
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https://youtu.be/j73OsXo19vI
Tesla Motors, SolarCity, and SpaceX—a few of his highest-profile projects—have relied heavily on government subsidies. According to a 2015 article in the Los Angeles Times, these three companies "together have benefited from an estimated $4.9 billion in government support."Apr 28, 2016
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You're such a Debbie Downer.. However, I do have one criticism of the the event. They were posting speed and altitude in metric. Metric doesn't mean s**t to me. Also, the Saturn V was larger, faster, carried more payload, more manly, carried passengers, and made more smoke. Yes, Spacex has reusable boosters. I mean what next, going to Mars, picking up some Martians and bringing them back here to kill us all? Any why on Earth, is he sending Tesla vehicles to Mars? He can't sell them here? Is it cheaper to build Tesla's on Mars with Martian labor? They are the new immigrants and I can say I certainly don't like this new turn of events. >:(
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I would have been impressed if he would have launched his own thieving ass to Mars.
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Such negative vibes...
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the most impressive part of that for me was the side by side landings of the boosters, it was like an episode of Thunderbirds
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:thumbs:
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I know it was just a test but why not put a useful payload on it anyway?
And G, I agree with you about Mr Musk but I wonder if they still did it for a bargain compared to today's NASA.
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Did the center stage land correctly on the ship? Wonder what the weather/wave/wind envelope is to do that. I would think the ship cannot be rocking too much for that.
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Did the center stage land correctly on the ship? Wonder what the weather/wave/wind envelope is to do that. I would think the ship cannot be rocking too much for that.
not sure where it hit but one of the rockets failed and it ploughed in at speed according to the reports Ive heard
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The center core was only able to relight one of the three engines necessary to land, and so it hit the water at 300 miles per hour about 300 feet from the drone ship. As a result, two engines on the drone ship were taken out when it crashed, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk said in a press call after the rocket launch. “[It] was enough to take out two thrusters and shower the deck with shrapnel,” he said.
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I know it was just a test but why not put a useful payload on it anyway?
And G, I agree with you about Mr Musk but I wonder if they still did it for a bargain compared to today's NASA.
Today's NASA is a cesspool of political climate change correctness and couldn't go into space on a billion dollar bet. Should have had a shuttle replacement ready. Instead they give the American built space station to the Russians.
And screw Mars...we should be industrializing the moon. Supposedly has ice/water which means O2. It's out of the Earths gravity strongest well. yada yada yada
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And on that positive note, the launch took me back to 4th grade where we took time out of the school day to watch the launch activities. Good to see a rocket (US) of size take off from Kennedy again.
What's also interesting to me is the naming of the Falcon 9 using the word 'heavy'. Back in the 50's the AF used that term on the big boy recon and bomber wings. For instance, my dad was a crew chief at Ellsworth AFB on the RB-36. 28th SRW, Heavy. SRW for you youngsters is Strategic Reconnaissance Wing.
I really don't care where Elon gets his money from. I'm glad my taxes helped support his efforts in space, cars, and solar technology. At least he's got something to show for it, unlike NASA at the moment who's still piddling with the Mars effort. I do agree that we should start using the Moon for bases, industrial mining and cheese (not necessarily in that order).
I'm also wondering why we haven't developed the technology to build the rockets in space or the moon where they don't require as much fuel to head to their destinations.
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And on that positive note, the launch took me back to 4th grade where we took time out of the school day to watch the launch activities. Good to see a rocket (US) of size take off from Kennedy again.
What's also interesting to me is the naming of the Falcon 9 using the word 'heavy'. Back in the 50's the AF used that term on the big boy recon and bomber wings. For instance, my dad was a crew chief at Ellsworth AFB on the RB-36. 28th SRW, Heavy. SRW for you youngsters is Strategic Reconnaissance Wing.
I really don't care where Elon gets his money from. I'm glad my taxes helped support his efforts in space, cars, and solar technology. At least he's got something to show for it, unlike NASA at the moment who's still piddling with the Mars effort. I do agree that we should start using the Moon for bases, industrial mining and cheese (not necessarily in that order).
I'm also wondering why we haven't developed the technology to build the rockets in space or the moon where they don't require as much fuel to head to their destinations.
you still need to get all the components (including the fuel) up there so that in itself requires fuel.....
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The center core was only able to relight one of the three engines necessary to land, and so it hit the water at 300 miles per hour about 300 feet from the drone ship. As a result, two engines on the drone ship were taken out when it crashed, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk said in a press call after the rocket launch. “[It] was enough to take out two thrusters and shower the deck with shrapnel,” he said.
:'( unfortunate
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you still need to get all the components (including the fuel) up there so that in itself requires fuel.....
I'll leave the details up to you ;)
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And screw Mars...we should be industrializing the moon. Supposedly has ice/water which means O2. It's out of the Earths gravity strongest well. yada yada yada
gPink, Could you retype the highlighted part in english better word choices?
Overall I agree with most of you, send only unmanned probes to Mars, and let's develop the moon.
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watch/listen to this, make sure you use headphones!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImoQqNyRL8Y&feature=em-subs_digest (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImoQqNyRL8Y&feature=em-subs_digest)
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And on that positive note, the launch took me back to 4th grade where we took time out of the school day to watch the launch activities. Good to see a rocket (US) of size take off from Kennedy again.
What's also interesting to me is the naming of the Falcon 9 using the word 'heavy'. Back in the 50's the AF used that term on the big boy recon and bomber wings. For instance, my dad was a crew chief at Ellsworth AFB on the RB-36. 28th SRW, Heavy. SRW for you youngsters is Strategic Reconnaissance Wing.
I really don't care where Elon gets his money from. I'm glad my taxes helped support his efforts in space, cars, and solar technology. At least he's got something to show for it, unlike NASA at the moment who's still piddling with the Mars effort. I do agree that we should start using the Moon for bases, industrial mining and cheese (not necessarily in that order).
I'm also wondering why we haven't developed the technology to build the rockets in space or the moon where they don't require as much fuel to head to their destinations.
Gotcha Jim :)
http://zemonster.tripod.com/cheesy.html (http://zemonster.tripod.com/cheesy.html)
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Damn Gary, you're just a fucking ray of sunshine ain't ya?
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Sorry, bad day.
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And for those extra special months where we get two full moons, blue cheese is served.
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And for those extra special months where we get two full moons, blue cheese is served.
But what if it's also a blood moon? Is the blue cheese served with side of blood pudding? :o
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We'll hold off on the pudding..
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We'll hold off on the pudding..
idf it's a blood moon than black pudding would be appropriate :)
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Tesla in space!
Here's the latest pic of the world's fastest car (8,300mph).
click to zoom
(http://0e33611cb8e6da737d5c-e13b5a910e105e07f9070866adaae10b.r15.cf1.rackcdn.com/Adriano-Valvasori-SpaceXroadster_20180208_rev1_1518127910.jpg)
At the time, the car was 493,000 km (306,000) away, not far beyond the orbit of the Moon, receding from Earth about 3.7 km/s (8,300 mph). Reflecting sunlight, it shone about as brightly as a 16th magnitude star.
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Interesting. Which telescope was used to take that pic?
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Interesting. Which telescope was used to take that pic?
Sorry, here's the info.
http://spaceweather.com/ (http://spaceweather.com/)
AMATEUR ASTRONOMERS PHOTOGRAPH ROADSTER IN SPACE: It's official. Elon Musk's cherry red Tesla Roadster is a spacecraft. NASA is now listing the electric car in its database of celestial objects with an ephemeris for tracking it available on JPL's Horizons web site.
Using that ephemeris, along with a remote-controlled telescope in Siding Spring, Australia, amateur astronomer Adriano Valvasori photographed the Roadster on Feb. 8th. It is the faint speck circled in red:
Details:
FSQ106 f/5
Sbig SLT-11000M
L5x60s
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Thanks Conrad. Cool that an amateur using and online telescope did this.
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(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27540654_1966306650063757_6581477995532091740_n.jpg?oh=98dbb41d1194eb42925aff7a454250af&oe=5AD81442)
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(http://sharetheexperience.co.uk/Images/carsafety.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Highway_Traffic_Safety_Administration#Versus_international_consensus
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What's the UN and why should I care what it's standards are?
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(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27540654_1966306650063757_6581477995532091740_n.jpg?oh=98dbb41d1194eb42925aff7a454250af&oe=5AD81442)
:thumbs: :hail:
(https://frinkiac.com/meme/S08E09/1258139.jpg?lines=+We%27re+number+one%21+In+your%0A+face%2C+space+coyote.+Space%0A+coyote%3F)
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Tesla in space!
Here's the latest pic of the world's fastest car (8,300mph).
click to zoom
(http://0e33611cb8e6da737d5c-e13b5a910e105e07f9070866adaae10b.r15.cf1.rackcdn.com/Adriano-Valvasori-SpaceXroadster_20180208_rev1_1518127910.jpg)
At the time, the car was 493,000 km (306,000) away, not far beyond the orbit of the Moon, receding from Earth about 3.7 km/s (8,300 mph). Reflecting sunlight, it shone about as brightly as a 16th magnitude star.
Very nice, thanks Conrad.
So did I pick out the correct light blob below?
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NzXHhNT/0/5c795fb4/L/i-NzXHhNT-L.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NzXHhNT/0/5c795fb4/O/i-NzXHhNT.jpg)
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Very nice, thanks Conrad.
So did I pick out the correct light blob below?
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NzXHhNT/0/5c795fb4/L/i-NzXHhNT-L.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NzXHhNT/0/5c795fb4/O/i-NzXHhNT.jpg)
Nope, it's the one just to the left of that. The right turn signal has unknowingly been left on by mistake and it'll be signaling a right turn for eternity (or until the battery goes dead). ;)
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So it's going to go all around the universe to the right?
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So it's going to go all around the universe to the right?
You know, like Blinker Boy
(http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/800x450/format/jpg/quality/85/http://o.aolcdn.com/os/autos/photos/miscellaneous/20120501_turn-signal_612mz.jpg)
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They were posting speed and altitude in metric. Metric doesn't mean s**t to me.
Maybe this has something to do with the specs being metric....... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Since he claims to not be American his ass should be deported and his assets confiscated and returned to the American taxpayers. 8)
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Well, he was born in the Transvaal, South Africa. He has South African, Canadian, and US citizenship (as of 2002). So I'm thinking that your suggestion on deporting and seizing his assets probably won't work.
Personally I don't think he's any worse than any business entity these days. Yes, he does get tax incentives but then quite a few other businesses wanting to build their plants in different states do as well.
Whatever he's doing for the space program and the US in general is ok by me. Cost of the Falcon 9 Heavy launch is less than a 100 Million dollars. Cost of one shuttle launch is nearly a Billion.
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Maybe this has something to do with the specs being metric....... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
(http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23139.0;attach=29212;image)
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Yes it is funny, but Elon Musk didn't actually send the second tweet shown. But still it is funny.
https://www.snopes.com/elon-musk-donald-trump-dumbass/ (https://www.snopes.com/elon-musk-donald-trump-dumbass/)
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Ah, the best part about todays' "news" is that it is free and unfettered by any of those pesky facts.
Brian
Yes it is funny, but Elon Musk didn't actually send the second tweet shown. But still it is funny.
https://www.snopes.com/elon-musk-donald-trump-dumbass/ (https://www.snopes.com/elon-musk-donald-trump-dumbass/)
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So Conrad, the stage one boosters, landed back at the cape successfully, the stage 2 booster (or main booster) had a malfunction and went in the drink and caused minor damage to the recovery drone (robotic floating landing pad..I think) and the third stage eventually boosted the car towards hopefully a successful Mars orbit (someday). <--did I get that all correct?
The part I can't seem to find any info on is...did the third stage eject the car at some point ? ...and if so where is the third stage headed?
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Yes it is funny, but Elon Musk didn't actually send the second tweet shown. But still it is funny.
https://www.snopes.com/elon-musk-donald-trump-dumbass/ (https://www.snopes.com/elon-musk-donald-trump-dumbass/)
If it were true and he had tweeted that, Musk would be the dumbass. He is an American citizen and he built his companies and wealth here with a LOT of help from American tax payers.
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So Conrad, the stage one boosters, landed back at the cape successfully, the stage 2 booster (or main booster) had a malfunction and went in the drink and caused minor damage to the recovery drone (robotic floating landing pad..I think) and the third stage eventually boosted the car towards hopefully a successful Mars orbit (someday). <--did I get that all correct?
The part I can't seem to find any info on is...did the third stage eject the car at some point ? ...and if so where is the third stage headed?
I was confused over that part as well... I would have loved to seen that payload ejected from the main craft.
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Soooo, no one is considering the possibility that this isn't just an elaborate hoax? Has anybody got pictures other than what ol'Muskie has provided?
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So Conrad, the stage one boosters, landed back at the cape successfully, the stage 2 booster (or main booster) had a malfunction and went in the drink and caused minor damage to the recovery drone (robotic floating landing pad..I think) and the third stage eventually boosted the car towards hopefully a successful Mars orbit (someday). <--did I get that all correct?
The part I can't seem to find any info on is...did the third stage eject the car at some point ? ...and if so where is the third stage headed?
I believe that you have it mostly right. I'll see if I can find what's what.
Here's a bit more info about the Falcon Heavy.
http://www.spacex.com/falcon-heavy (http://www.spacex.com/falcon-heavy)
And the center booster
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/spacex-reveals-why-falcon-heavy-center-booster-crashed-205835911.html (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/spacex-reveals-why-falcon-heavy-center-booster-crashed-205835911.html)
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Yes it is funny, but Elon Musk didn't actually send the second tweet shown. But still it is funny.
https://www.snopes.com/elon-musk-donald-trump-dumbass/ (https://www.snopes.com/elon-musk-donald-trump-dumbass/)
Oh well, see my sig.
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I'll see if I can find what's what.
Thanks Conrad!
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Soooo, no one is considering the possibility that this isn't just an elaborate hoax? Has anybody got pictures other than what ol'Muskie has provided?
No and No. I also believe we (US) went to the moon.
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If you wait til the right time of night you can step off the edge of the earth on fall on the moon.
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And what time would that be? If it's after 10, I'm in bed by then so no stepping out. Has to be before 10.
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Soooo, no one is considering the possibility that this isn't just an elaborate hoax? Has anybody got pictures other than what ol'Muskie has provided?
I was wondering when someone would bring this up.
I think that there might have been a witness or two watching from the Space Center. A friend of mine was even there and he's fairly reliable.
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I do what I can. :)
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http://spaceweather.com/ (http://spaceweather.com/)
THE ROADSTER AND THE STAR CLUSTER: Elon Musk's cherry red Tesla Roadster is doing things no electric car has ever done before. On Feb. 6th it left Earth onboard a Falcon Heavy Rocket. On Feb. 8th it crossed the orbit of the Moon. Yesterday, the Roadster paid a visit to a star cluster:
(http://0e33611cb8e6da737d5c-e13b5a910e105e07f9070866adaae10b.r15.cf1.rackcdn.com/Michael-Keith-Tesla-With-Globular_1519071991_lg.gif)
"I captured this series of photos from my cozy home office in New Jersey using a remote-controlled 0.5-meter telescope at the Chilescope observatory a few hours north of Santiago, Chile," says Michael Keith. "The Roadster was at a distance of 3.7 million km from Earth--a new record! Although it is was very dim (about magnitude 19.8) I wanted to try to capture it because it was close in the sky to a nice globular star cluster: NGC 5694 is much farther away than the Tesla Roadster, alnost 115,000 light years from Earth."
Since NASA published orbital elements for the Roadster on Feb. 8th, amateur astronomers have been tracking the electric car, with groups leapfrogging over one another in an effort to capture the most distant photo of this unique spacecraft. Among photos submitted to Spaceweather.com, Keith's is the record holder. For reference, 3.7 million km is almost 10 times farther from Earth than the Moon. This record will surely fall as astrophotographers around the world continue tracking the interplanetary Roadster. Whether anyone can take a more beautiful photo than Keith did, however, remains unknown. Stay tuned.
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What happens when the astronaut runs out of air? I mean, I can understand an electric car running in space, no engine you know. But the astronaut is going to run into serious problems at some point.
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I think people smart enough to drive in space would be smart enough to leave the windows rolled up and the doors closed. Geez Jim.....
Brian
What happens when the astronaut runs out of air? I mean, I can understand an electric car running in space, no engine you know. But the astronaut is going to run into serious problems at some point.
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I think people smart enough to drive in space would be smart enough to leave the windows rolled up and the doors closed. Geez Jim.....
Brian
Dude! The Tesla is a roadster. The top is down and the driver is enjoying the (solar) wind. :)
(https://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/tesla-roadster-in-space-9.jpg)
Besides, he has a space suit on and from what I hear, he doesn't breathe all that much.
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Brian
Dude! The Tesla is a roadster. The top is down and the driver is enjoying the (solar) wind. :)
(https://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/tesla-roadster-in-space-9.jpg)
Besides, he has a space suit on and from what I hear, he doesn't breathe all that much.
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Dude! The Tesla is a roadster. The top is down and the driver is enjoying the (solar) wind. :)
(https://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/tesla-roadster-in-space-9.jpg)
Besides, he has a space suit on and from what I hear, he doesn't breathe all that much.
He gets to see this view:
http://youtu.be/sNUNB6CMnE8 (http://youtu.be/sNUNB6CMnE8)
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http://spaceweather.com/ (http://spaceweather.com/)
it is was very dim (about magnitude 19.8)
I suppose it wouldn't have been as interesting for the near Earth photos, but I wonder what it's magnitude would be now if they had painted it all white.
I also wonder if any extra bracing or other reinforcement was required to handle the g- forces so that we wouldn't see pieces of windshield trim, gas cap flipped open, or side mirror dangling, etc. hanging off of the car. I have to believe that the dummies left arm is fairly well fastened down to the top of the door despite it's casual just resting there appearance.
I guess what we are seeing is actually all of this: (http://space.skyrocket.de/img_sat/tesla-roadster__2.jpg)
...and not just a car by itself.
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I suppose it wouldn't have been as interesting for the near Earth photos, but I wonder what it's magnitude would be now if they had painted it all white.
I also wonder if any extra bracing or other reinforcement was required to handle the g- forces so that we wouldn't see pieces of windshield trim, gas cap flipped open, or side mirror dangling, etc. hanging off of the car. I have to believe that the dummies left arm is fairly well fastened down to the top of the door despite it's casual just resting there appearance.
I guess what we are seeing is actually all of this: (http://space.skyrocket.de/img_sat/tesla-roadster__2.jpg)
...and not just a car by itself.
Gas cap? ;)
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Gas cap? ;)
:rotflmao: Certainly not! But does the electric plug thingy have a cap?
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....gas cap flipped open,...
Gas cap? ;)
:doh: :doh: :doh:
....er charging port. :-[
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:doh: :doh: :doh:
....er charging port. :-[
That's the ticket! :)
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Well, that is probably more polite than Haroldo's infamous 'gashole'.
;D
Brian
:doh: :doh: :doh:
....er charging port. :-[
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Well, that is probably more polite than Haroldo's infamous 'gashole'.
;D
Brian
What would a charging port be called in Haroldo speak? Electron hole? Spark hole? 'Lectric hole? :)
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Juice hole maybe? Plug hole? Stick receptor?
I miss Haroldo.
Brian
What would a charging port be called in Haroldo speak? Electron hole? Spark hole? 'Lectric hole? :)
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Not to worry, we have Lather and Tree now.