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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2011, 06:54:55 AM »
regarding depreciation costs. Keep in mind that I live in Germany and use euros, but whatever that is in USD nowadays, it doesn't really matter for what I'm explaining:

- I paid 17900 for my RT (list price, since BMW doesn't know the word "deal"). Sold it 2 years later with 5000 miles for 12500. That's 30% depreciation and 5400 loss.

- I paid 12000 for my GTR ('08 bike bought in March '09; list price for an '09 was 15900, but they were selling for about 14500):
     case 1. If I sold it today, 2 years and 8 months later with 25000 miles, I'd get 8500. That's 30% depreciation and 3500 loss.
     case 2. If I had sold it in March '11, 2 years old and if it had 5000 on it, I'd have gotten 10000. That's 17% depreciation and 2000 loss.

Once you go through the numbers, you can take your pick. The only problem with the Kawa is the cost of the platic surgery to take the ;D off your face!!!

I'm no t sure I'm following your depreciation numbers on the GTR.  All I know is I've been following the for sale of the Concours and it appears to me it has horrible resale value.  Admittedly, I did not buy one of the dirt cheap leftovers.  I bought my '10 literally before they came out, but I still got over $1000 discount on it.  I'm prepared for it to be worth about 50% of what I payed for it even if I sold it now - it is almost exactly two years old.
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2011, 07:45:51 AM »
It's nice to think we would get more for them when we sell them but no one buys a toy with the investment value in mind. After all, they're only really worth what someone is will to give you at the time you're trying to sell it.

I just bought my Connie so I got the advantage of buying at a time where the market was soft and realized the end of season savings. I'll wait to sell my GT at a time where I can realize the beginning of riding season inflation. But still will only get what someone is willing to give me.
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2011, 10:00:20 AM »
Who'd a thunk?

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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2011, 10:41:26 AM »
Didn't see that coming!

You and me both!

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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2011, 10:55:46 AM »
Truly I could not decide which to buy. So I bought both!! :)

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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2011, 03:16:18 PM »
regarding depreciation costs. Keep in mind that I live in Germany and use euros, but whatever that is in USD nowadays, it doesn't really matter for what I'm explaining:

- I paid 17900 for my RT (list price, since BMW doesn't know the word "deal"). Sold it 2 years later with 5000 miles for 12500. That's 30% depreciation and 5400 loss.

- I paid 12000 for my GTR ('08 bike bought in March '09; list price for an '09 was 15900, but they were selling for about 14500):
     case 1. If I sold it today, 2 years and 8 months later with 25000 miles, I'd get 8500. That's 30% depreciation and 3500 loss.
     case 2. If I had sold it in March '11, 2 years old and if it had 5000 on it, I'd have gotten 10000. That's 17% depreciation and 2000 loss.

Once you go through the numbers, you can take your pick. The only problem with the Kawa is the cost of the platic surgery to take the ;D off your face!!!

If he bought both I am sure he could give a rats azz about depreciation..LOL

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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2011, 03:17:28 PM »
Well, today was the day I was going to buy a motorcycle...

I took both the R1200RT and the C14 out on test rides along the same stretch of roads. In my opinion, the bikes are totally different; the C14 clearly sporty, while the RT more tour oriented. There was a surprising amount of wind noise on the C14 along with upper body heat (that surprised me, had not read about that in 2011). But the power and smoothness the bike has is contagious and makes you have to have the bike!

I rode the RT and fell in love. It is quiet, comfortable, has plenty of power, and handles well.

Truly I could not decide which to buy. So I bought both!! :)



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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2011, 03:37:40 PM »
Well, today was the day I was going to buy a motorcycle...

I took both the R1200RT and the C14 out on test rides along the same stretch of roads. In my opinion, the bikes are totally different; the C14 clearly sporty, while the RT more tour oriented. There was a surprising amount of wind noise on the C14 along with upper body heat (that surprised me, had not read about that in 2011). But the power and smoothness the bike has is contagious and makes you have to have the bike!

I rode the RT and fell in love. It is quiet, comfortable, has plenty of power, and handles well.

Truly I could not decide which to buy. So I bought both!! :)

Kurt
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Nicely played sir!!  :chugbeer:

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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2011, 03:44:53 PM »
My mom used to always say that you need two of everything. One for day and one for night.

Enjoy!
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2011, 04:41:09 PM »
enjoy!

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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2011, 06:11:10 PM »
Yes enjoy. But couldn't have brought 2 very different bikes? This is almost like driving a ford and gm truck.
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2011, 07:15:49 PM »
Nice!

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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2011, 07:31:01 PM »
Doesnt make any sense to me.  :o  I have a GSXR 600 for track days, Street Glide for beer runs with the guys and CONNIE when I'm serious about riding into the sunset. Completely different styles and different riding types.

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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2011, 07:43:32 PM »
Doesnt make any sense to me.  :o  I have a GSXR 600 for track days, Street Glide for beer runs with the guys and CONNIE when I'm serious about riding into the sunset. Completely different styles and different riding types.

WHATEVER! 

 I call B@11$H177!!

I am pretty skeptical too, myself.  There are some appreciable differences between the two bikes, but they are way too similar in most ways to possibly justify buying both of them.  Just doesn't make any sense at all.
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #54 on: December 02, 2011, 08:01:15 PM »
I would have gone for the GTL1600 if I had the money to buy both, but that's just me.
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #55 on: December 02, 2011, 10:01:56 PM »
I posted the maintenance costs on my R1200RT yesterday, and asked others to do the same for the C14, for comparison purposes. Thus far, nobody has done so.

Would someone please post their maintenance costs for comparison purposes?

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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #56 on: December 02, 2011, 11:57:40 PM »
I posted the maintenance costs on my R1200RT yesterday, and asked others to do the same for the C14, for comparison purposes. Thus far, nobody has done so.

Would someone please post their maintenance costs for comparison purposes?

What maintenance cost?  It's a C14...  ::)

No really, oil, gas & tires.  That's about it.
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #57 on: December 03, 2011, 04:33:06 AM »
Heavy on the tires... :o

I'll wear out a set in a weekend.
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #58 on: December 03, 2011, 06:24:40 AM »
What maintenance cost?  It's a C14...  ::)

No really, oil, gas & tires.  That's about it.

+1.  I've had one valve check in 47k and the above.  The farkling has been more expensive. 
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #59 on: December 03, 2011, 06:33:43 AM »
+1.  I've had one valve check in 47k and the above.  The farkling has been more expensive.

+2. I could have made me new teeth already. The whole set. ;D
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