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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #120 on: December 30, 2012, 04:40:36 PM »
Back on topic please!
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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #121 on: December 30, 2012, 06:14:08 PM »
One hour ago:

(NECN) - President Obama spoke out on Sunday about the need for gun control.
   
He said the shooting rampage at the Sandy Hook Elementary school in Newtown, Conn., was the worst day of his presidency, and he's pledging to put his "full weight" behind legislation aimed at preventing gun violence.

“The question then becomes whether we are actually shook up enough by what happened here that it does not just become another one of these routine episodes where it gets a lot of attention for a couple of weeks and then it drifts away,” Obama said on “Meet the Press.”


The president said he supports increased background checks and bans on assault weapons and high-capacity bullet magazines.
   
He also voiced skepticism about the National Rifle Association's proposal to put armed guards in schools. Twenty first graders and six adults died during the shooting rampage.
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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #122 on: December 30, 2012, 06:14:40 PM »
“I think there are a vast majority of responsible gun owners out there who recognize that we can't have a situation in which somebody with severe psychological problems is able to get the kind of high-capacity weapons that this individual in Newtown obtained and gun down our kids,” Obama said.

Hmmmmmm.......seems to me that the parent and only the parent was 100% negligent in this, however the current system did and does work. He didnt obtain anything, he took "her guns" and killed her with one of them. She was in fact 100% negligent and in denial, however you are never fully prepared for what your offspring is capable of, or anybody for that matter. You never fully know until it is too late and it happens, then people react how they are doing now. Killers are cowards and they prey on the weak, it aint rocket science. Be very scared of this current government, next movies, the internet and music are the target. Yet another gun ban from another Democratic President.....imagine that. But it is for the greater good "of all".......yeah sure it is.
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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #123 on: December 30, 2012, 07:05:38 PM »
DON'T FEED THE TROLL

It seems that Strawboss is not capable of having an intelligent conversation. He would rather anyone who does not share his particular view be silenced. I thought this was a democratic country.

As I said, I'm not sure what the solution is and I don't want to give up my rifles but I'm petty sure more guns will not quell the violence. We ban some weapons like RPGs, machine guns and silencers. Why not assault rifles and armor piercing ammo? As we look around the 1st world, we can see what works and the big difference is controls on the type of guns available to the general public and how they can be used, stored and transported.

In May of 1986 Reagan signed a bill into law that prohibited the registration of new machine guns for civilian use. I guess Reagan was a lib nut job.

When the second amendment was adopted on December 15, 1791, I doubt the carnage of today was envisioned. Maybe we should ban all weapons that were not around in 1791. It would take a long time to reload.

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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #124 on: December 30, 2012, 07:10:10 PM »
When the 2nd was written the firearms held by the military and citizens were the same. They didn't envision a government with guns and a civilian populace with torches and pitchforks.

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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #125 on: December 30, 2012, 08:36:13 PM »
DON'T FEED THE TROLL

It seems that Strawboss is not capable of having an intelligent conversation. He would rather anyone who does not share his particular view be silenced. I thought this was a democratic country.




Bart, it seems as though your just as firm in your views of what you think would be best ... after all you've voiced them a number of times.

I think most of us on this forum believe that less restrictions getting legal guns into the hands of law abiding citizens would be a better idea.

And less restrictions on what kind of guns law abiding citizens could own would be a better idea.

And less restrictions on where us law abiding citizens could carry our legal guns would be a better idea.

I as a Watchdog Dad, or Sheepdog or whatever we would like to be known as, would like to have MORE ability to protect the innocent's of the world in a way that WILL save lives.

And I don't think anyone here said "Americans just like to kill" (except you) what most of us are saying is we would like to be able to protect people.
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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #126 on: December 30, 2012, 09:13:03 PM »
I want a few Drones ;)
screw these little hand guns .
The nut job in Webster NY last week got a young girl to buy his weapons! I hope she gets ten years in Jail.
I can't see taking away a NORMAL persons guns , BUT I do believe they should make it harder for everyone to obtain them. In Fl. to get a CWP you just sit in a room for a hour or two (depending on the instructor) get a back ground check and your good to go.  :o
This past week I read Florida Firearms Law, Use & Ownership,
I believe everyone needs to read a book of this type and then take a written test, based on the Law in your area, When I was in NY last week my brother who is a attorney said the law in NY can change from county to county , that is nuts.
I don't believe in taking anything away,  but in more and better screening and education .
We need to keep firearms away from NUTS . Lasts weeks killing of the Firemen responding  to a set trap is one more nut getting his rocks off in a very sick way , they found a typewritten letter from him " I love killing people" He killed his Grandmother with a hammer  , killed his sister before setting the fire.
When someone kills another I believe they should be killed , I don't believe in rehab.
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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #127 on: December 31, 2012, 04:25:12 AM »
To no one in particular.....   We want to keep this in the Open area so let's be civil in the discussions.  Thanks.
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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #128 on: December 31, 2012, 10:13:14 AM »
DON'T FEED THE TROLL

It seems that Strawboss is not capable of having an intelligent conversation. He would rather anyone who does not share his particular view be silenced. I thought this was a democratic country.

As I said, I'm not sure what the solution is and I don't want to give up my rifles but I'm petty sure more guns will not quell the violence. We ban some weapons like RPGs, machine guns and silencers. Why not assault rifles and armor piercing ammo? As we look around the 1st world, we can see what works and the big difference is controls on the type of guns available to the general public and how they can be used, stored and transported.

In May of 1986 Reagan signed a bill into law that prohibited the registration of new machine guns for civilian use. I guess Reagan was a lib nut job.

When the second amendment was adopted on December 15, 1791, I doubt the carnage of today was envisioned. Maybe we should ban all weapons that were not around in 1791. It would take a long time to reload.


I'm certain they weren't.  They were envisioning an entirely different kind.  It was easy to do, as they had recent experience.




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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #129 on: December 31, 2012, 11:30:53 PM »
DON'T FEED THE TROLL

It seems that Strawboss is not capable of having an intelligent conversation. He would rather anyone who does not share his particular view be silenced. I thought this was a democratic country.

As I said, I'm not sure what the solution is and I don't want to give up my rifles but I'm petty sure more guns will not quell the violence. We ban some weapons like RPGs, machine guns and silencers. Why not assault rifles and armor piercing ammo? As we look around the 1st world, we can see what works and the big difference is controls on the type of guns available to the general public and how they can be used, stored and transported.

In May of 1986 Reagan signed a bill into law that prohibited the registration of new machine guns for civilian use. I guess Reagan was a lib nut job.

When the second amendment was adopted on December 15, 1791, I doubt the carnage of today was envisioned. Maybe we should ban all weapons that were not around in 1791. It would take a long time to reload.

Maybe not, but they did envision a tyrannical government coming into power and now that government wants to disarm us.
 

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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #130 on: January 01, 2013, 01:02:03 AM »
When the 2nd was written the firearms held by the military and citizens were the same. They didn't envision a government with guns and a civilian populace with torches and pitchforks.

- thats true.

- but its also true that much has changed (both in terms of weaponry and society too) since then.

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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #131 on: January 01, 2013, 01:45:52 AM »
Maybe not, but they did envision a tyrannical government coming into power and now that government wants to disarm us.

exactly!!

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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #132 on: January 01, 2013, 06:42:43 AM »
- thats true.

- but its also true that much has changed (both in terms of weaponry and society too) since then.

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Yes. Society has gotten worse and weapons have gotten better.

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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #133 on: January 01, 2013, 03:27:17 PM »
Quote from: gPink on December 30, 2012, 09:10:10 pm

    When the 2nd was written the firearms held by the military and citizens were the same. They didn't envision a government with guns and a civilian populace with torches and pitchforks.


- thats true.

- but its also true that much has changed (both in terms of weaponry and society too) since then.

That's also true ... but when the 2nd was written I don't believe there was as much of a difference between what the politicians and the common folk wanted.

Our founding fathers wanted to keep us safe, and for us to have the ability to keep ourselves safe ... they believed that we had the sense to know when it was time to take up arms ... as they had done.

Our current leadership is so removed from us in there elitist world that they believe they are the only one's who know what's best for us.

When actually that's all their thinking about is what's best for them!
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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #134 on: January 02, 2013, 07:21:49 AM »
Oh no, I don't mind anybody with a differing opinion than mine, you can talk all you want, privately owned firearms have ensured that, so far. Everywhere across the country this type of "debate" has been raging since CT. We are saturated with "debate", especially from folks like Bart, who sign on to post only on a particular thread or hot topic and fuel the "debate" with controversial or inflammatory postings or simplistic ideas knowing it will incite other comments and "debate", then sit back and watch the "debate", all under the auspices of talking about a solution meanwhile keeping the "debate" on the front burner, as suggested by more than one media type lately. Solutions are coming folks, of that I am sure, and I have no doubt many here will not like them. But remember we had nothing to do with those solutions. 
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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #135 on: January 02, 2013, 07:32:41 AM »
To no one in particular.....   We want to keep this in the Open area so let's be civil in the discussions.  Thanks.

Even better just completely ignore posters who are not bringing any worthwhile conversation to the table...
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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #136 on: January 02, 2013, 08:28:13 AM »
Thanks Tony, thats what I was trying to say.
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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #137 on: January 06, 2013, 09:20:13 AM »
When the 2nd was written the firearms held by the military and citizens were the same. They didn't envision a government with guns and a civilian populace with torches and pitchforks.

I agree.  I am getting tired of people wondering why citizens need to have automatic weapons and large capacity clips to go hunting.  Owning weapons is not just about hunting or personal protection.  We have the right to bear arms.  We should be able to form a civilian militia when needed, yet no one wants to say this to the press.
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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #138 on: January 06, 2013, 12:07:47 PM »
I agree.  I am getting tired of people wondering why citizens need to have automatic weapons and large capacity clips to go hunting.  Owning weapons is not just about hunting or personal protection.  We have the right to bear arms.  We should be able to form a civilian militia when needed, yet no one wants to say this to the press.

While it would be nice to own an automatic firearm very few of us do we own semi-auto firearms and we should be sure to point out to those who don't know the difference between the two...

As to high cap mags I own them for the very same reason that I own numerous SEMI-AUTO firearms for sport shooting and while I pray that I never need to use them against a human who has intent to harm me or my family I would and that includes a tyrannical government.
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Re: NRA press Conference
« Reply #139 on: January 06, 2013, 04:53:22 PM »
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