Author Topic: Connie 14 rod bearing noise (or why does my C14 rattle in the morning?)  (Read 28510 times)

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Re: Connie 14 rod bearing noise when first started in morning
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2015, 02:16:06 pm »
FIFY.

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Re: Connie 14 rod bearing noise when first started in morning
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2015, 03:53:23 pm »
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Re: Connie 14 rod bearing noise when first started in morning
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2015, 01:45:50 pm »
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Re: Connie 14 rod bearing noise when first started in morning
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2015, 08:57:43 pm »
My K75s always smoked at start up because oil weeped past the valve cover when on the side stand. Try explaining that to people for 115,000 miles - the bike is fine, really, just not meant to be parked(!)

I had a K75c did the same thing, brings back the time I went to a well known popular Pub (Pohoi) with heaps of bikers mainly HD drinkers pub. Apparently when I took off, all the lads thought it was a great joke watching the BMW 2smoker heading off with a trail of blue smoke pouring out the back. I did not realise until my mate told me the next day. Apparanltly word got back to him by another friend that was at the Pub and saw it. Hah!

This post has been very helpful. I was wondering if I had a problem with my C14. But now I understand it is the timing chain.. phew!
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My GTR1400 started rattling on start up after about 3000kms,timing chain tensioner. Ran Motul 7100 10w60,guess what , no rattle on start up any more, even after bike is left for a month or more and all the oils drained back to the sump. I now run Amsoil 10w 40,still no rattle on start up after 10,000kms.
Suspected reason, the thicker oil pushed the tensioner to the next ratchet tooth on the tensioner, apparently the ratchet teeth are very fine, hence the timing chain tensioner is now placed firmer against the timing chain, no rattle on start up.
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My GTR1400 started rattling on start up after about 3000kms,timing chain tensioner. Ran Motul 7100 10w60,guess what , no rattle on start up any more, even after bike is left for a month or more and all the oils drained back to the sump. I now run Amsoil 10w 40,still no rattle on start up after 10,000kms.
Suspected reason, the thicker oil pushed the tensioner to the next ratchet tooth on the tensioner, apparently the ratchet teeth are very fine, hence the timing chain tensioner is now placed firmer against the timing chain, no rattle on start up.
Try it.

It would be great if after all these years that Kawasaki could fix my only complaint. At 70,000 miles, now it rattles for about a minute on start up- I hope it breaks so I can finally use the extended warranty that I paid for.

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Oil type makes no difference on mine as I've used quite a few including Amsoil.  It rattles for a few seconds on mine and then quietens down.
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It would be great if after all these years that Kawasaki could fix my only complaint. At 70,000 miles, now it rattles for about a minute on start up- I hope it breaks so I can finally use the extended warranty that I paid for.

Mine did that too so I spent the $50 or so for an Ape manual cam chain tensioner. Hasn't rattled since even on cold startup.

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Mine did that too so I spent the $50 or so for an Ape manual cam chain tensioner. Hasn't rattled since even on cold startup.

How many busted knuckles and beers to install?

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How many busted knuckles and beers to install?

Not too bad at all. You have to get under the right side fairing but I didn't have to actually remove the fairing. Once you get under the fairing it's trivial to remove the OEM and install the APE. Just 2 bolts and follow the instructions to adjust.

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I always wondered how often the APE tensioner needs adjustment or does it?
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I was wanting to know the part number of the adjustable timing chain tensioner ?
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I think this one is what you want.... 

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I always wondered how often the APE tensioner needs adjustment or does it?

It's been about 10,000 miles and I haven't re-adjusted mine yet.

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Okay. Another dumb question. Do you wait until it makes noise or what? I have no idea. Thanks.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2016, 04:14:24 pm by Ron Dawg »
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