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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2014, 09:52:06 PM »
Geesh, I get stuck riding a Harley all day and this is the sh!t I get to come back to? ;) :P  I was better off watching free porn :-X

I'm still kinda peeved that I can't have my info posted in their book as a guy who wants to help all generations of Connie riders without paying dues.  I don't want a copy, but I do want to be reachable if a RIDER is in need and in my area.  FWIW, I am NOT a member in any club, too much freaking politics, which is clearly evident in this case.
Lets get back to riding, Winter is over. 
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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #61 on: April 29, 2014, 10:01:29 PM »

Yeah, lot's of wow. But that is how it is. No matter, we will keep on keepin' on like always. I think things have improved a great deal overall. The constituents just cannot be dealt with in any short order, and frankly, most people don't even notice they are there. As always, the 'better angels of our nature' will come to pass and the haters and disruptors will go to the sidelines eventually.

And besides all of that, it is a good service to the general community that they expose themselves by collectively slapping each other on the back in the typical school yard mentality of third graders. Others looking on should easily be able to see the true nature of everyone involved and move on.

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Not sure what you mean or are referring to but your pack will reward you with a beer, I am sure of that. Stay behind the Alpha and all will be well.

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Nope, no humor. Anyone who shows respect to his 'superiors' will fair well and they will have no problem. It is those who will not genuflect to the 'powers that be' (at least in their own minds) who risk peril.

Youse guise are funny.

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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #62 on: April 29, 2014, 10:03:31 PM »
Relax Chet, it's all good :-) Just some noise from some disgruntled people is all and you have to be used to that by now.

I'll see you in  a couple of weeks and all will be well; I promise I won't mention any of the vermin that plagues the universe :-)

Hey, let's show them there ADV riders how we put an aux. tank on a bike with nothing but parts from the local hydraulic store and WalMart, eh?     

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Geesh, I get stuck riding a Harley all day and this is the sh!t I get to come back to? ;) :P  I was better off watching free porn :-X

I'm still kinda peeved that I can't have my info posted in their book as a guy who wants to help all generations of Connie riders without paying dues.  I don't want a copy, but I do want to be reachable if a RIDER is in need and in my area.  FWIW, I am NOT a member in any club, too much freaking politics, which is clearly evident in this case.
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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #63 on: April 29, 2014, 10:07:07 PM »
<quote ZG>
Hi Steve,
I sure hope brother that your post isn't directed at my post...  ???


If it is you either totally misunderstood my post or I did a crappy job of trying to type it...  :-[


I have no issue with C10's or there owners, I only meant that more often than not the personality types are different.


I do have respect for vintage bike's and can appreciate your comments above about C10's and their owners.


Me personally, I'm a huge fan (and have owned many) of old school oil-cooled Gixxers, but even on the Gixxer forums there are huge differences between the old oil-cooled owners and the newer more modern Gixxer owners, and I'm totally ok with that. I also like the newer Gixxers too, all good! My point is just that different strokes for different folks, we aren't all the same, but when the majority of a forum or group is one type of personality it can and does show in the "vibe/feel" of a forum, that's all.


We good?  ??? 
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Yep, I thinks we be good. Don't you fret yourself no more over dis- everything be OK in your world.

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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #64 on: April 29, 2014, 10:29:18 PM »
<quote ZG>
Hi Steve,
I sure hope brother that your post isn't directed at my post...  ???


If it is you either totally misunderstood my post or I did a crappy job of trying to type it...  :-[


I have no issue with C10's or there owners, I only meant that more often than not the personality types are different.


I do have respect for vintage bike's and can appreciate your comments above about C10's and their owners.


Me personally, I'm a huge fan (and have owned many) of old school oil-cooled Gixxers, but even on the Gixxer forums there are huge differences between the old oil-cooled owners and the newer more modern Gixxer owners, and I'm totally ok with that. I also like the newer Gixxers too, all good! My point is just that different strokes for different folks, we aren't all the same, but when the majority of a forum or group is one type of personality it can and does show in the "vibe/feel" of a forum, that's all.


We good?  ??? 
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Yep, I thinks we be good. Don't you fret yourself no more over dis- everything be OK in your world.

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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #65 on: April 29, 2014, 10:40:23 PM »
I think you be good brother, you be good. Not to worry yourself over dis- all be okey dokey.

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Hi Steve,
I sure hope brother that your post isn't directed at my post...  ???


If it is you either totally misunderstood my post or I did a crappy job of trying to type it...  :-[


I have no issue with C10's or there owners, I only meant that more often than not the personality types are different.


I do have respect for vintage bike's and can appreciate your comments above about C10's and their owners.


Me personally, I'm a huge fan (and have owned many) of old school oil-cooled Gixxers, but even on the Gixxer forums there are huge differences between the old oil-cooled owners and the newer more modern Gixxer owners, and I'm totally ok with that. I also like the newer Gixxers too, all good! My point is just that different strokes for different folks, we aren't all the same, but when the majority of a forum or group is one type of personality it can and does show in the "vibe/feel" of a forum, that's all.


We good?  ??? 
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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #66 on: April 29, 2014, 10:54:35 PM »
Now Chet, go check this out: http://pat-sher.smugmug.com/COG-Tech-Day-2014/

Tech. day, 2014. Greatest group of people on the planet, including the dog. This is what COG is all about, not the clods and imbeciles found elsewhere. I would personally vouch for every one of the folks in these photos- they are great people. Somehow, this greatness of COG gets watered down across continental lines. Not sure how it happens but it does happen. Still, I can show you literally hundreds of COGgers in the northeast who are wonderful people with no ax to grind: no politics, no bike bias, nothing but good, decent people. Say the word and I will introduce you to as many of them as I can.

Make plans to stay over and I will guarantee you a good time in the Northeast US (not like that you pigs!). Let me know when you will
be here and we can connect.

Just as an aside, letting your membership slide due to a few outspoken people or a few facets of the politics of COG is a lousy reason, with all due respect. Pay your membership dues and affect change from the inside; you are not alone and together, we can make it a better place. At least the opposite is true: drop out and you have no positive impact on future events / appearance of the group at large.

Brian

Geesh, I get stuck riding a Harley all day and this is the sh!t I get to come back to? ;) :P  I was better off watching free porn :-X

I'm still kinda peeved that I can't have my info posted in their book as a guy who wants to help all generations of Connie riders without paying dues.  I don't want a copy, but I do want to be reachable if a RIDER is in need and in my area.  FWIW, I am NOT a member in any club, too much freaking politics, which is clearly evident in this case.
Lets get back to riding, Winter is over. 
We need a family reunion, just make sure you check your carbs and fobs at the door ;)
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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #67 on: April 30, 2014, 04:21:41 AM »
Brian makes an important point.  There is more to COG as a club than comes out in a forum.  The forum is not the club. I've met great folks in both places. Some have become true friends, rather than club acquaintances.  The COG forum, in both of its incarnations, typically only had about 25-40% actual COG members participating, so it is not really fair to judge the club by the content of the forum participation.  The fact that there has always been an online resource (since the listserv days) for Concours enthusiasts to migrate to, members or not, speaks volumes for the intention of the group. Another observation... To jump to the conclusion that there are more C10 than C14 guys in COG is a fallacy.  It's not in the membership numbers and surely does not seem that way at most club events I've been to.  Why do some try to make it an "us vs them" situation? Wouldn't it be in everyone's benefit to relax a bit and just have fun together as Concours enthusiasts? 

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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #68 on: April 30, 2014, 04:56:34 AM »
Well, this thread certainly dropped off in postings....? :-)

To the casual on- looker: yep, it went from calm and mildly amusing to 'over the top' in about three seconds. As usual in these things, there is a back- story:

Back around the beginning of the year, several of us had a.... oh, let's call it a clash, on the other forum. As usually happens in events involving humans, people took sides and things got a bit intense. Certainly Steve and I clashed. That issue is over and has been for some time and generally, things have calmed down. Of course there are still open wounds and when Steve posted about some people's attitudes towards C-10 owners, I took that as a direct barb jammed into an open wound. That is when things went downhill. Others jumped into the fray, as I said it was an old issue, hotly contested. It is nothing short of amazing how fast an old disagreement ramps up when compared to a new one; this was an old one.

So there it is: this is just the next chapter in an old tussle. Maybe it is over, and that would be great. Maybe not, and that is fine too- either way we will all go on.

Brian
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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #69 on: April 30, 2014, 06:58:01 AM »
I am relatively new (only 4 years) to both forums and go to them regularly every day.  To me they are both about a great bike (I have owned both), great riding, and great friends.  I wish those who disagree with that would stay away, and those that do agree would just use the forums the way they were intended.  Take your personal disagreements on the politics OFF-LINE if you still must bicker and please don't poison the well we all drink from with negative finger pointing.  Can you imagine if the Hatfields and the McCoys had access to forums, the whole country would be fighting by now.  Oh wait, that's Republicans and Democrats now...

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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #70 on: April 30, 2014, 07:17:54 AM »
I respect your point of view and think it is a valid approach.

But a different point of view that I also think is valid is to simply choose what you read on forums. No need to read every post, every thread and especially, every poster's content. Sort of like a radio in an auto: lots and lots of channels, just choose the one(s) you like and ignore the rest.

I too frequent both forums and like them a lot. I have some great friends on both forums, both 'in person' as well as those I have never actually met in person, and enjoy communicating with them. Lots of knowledge and learning in both places and on a good day, at least three chuckles. :-)  But like any social group, there are always going to be conflicts, misunderstandings, and outright clashes. So these places are just like real life- on the whole, very positive, mostly good, sometimes great and sometimes not so nice. [shrugs shoulders]

Brian

I am relatively new (only 4 years) to both forums and go to them regularly every day.  To me they are both about a great bike (I have owned both), great riding, and great friends.  I wish those who disagree with that would stay away, and those that do agree would just use the forums the way they were intended.  Take your personal disagreements on the politics OFF-LINE if you still must bicker and please don't poison the well we all drink from with negative finger pointing.  Can you imagine if the Hatfields and the McCoys had access to forums, the whole country would be fighting by now.  Oh wait, that's Republicans and Democrats now...

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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #71 on: April 30, 2014, 10:45:29 AM »
One group is more sensitive then the other... But I don't know which. :rotflmao:

It's coming back to me now...  :doh:
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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #72 on: April 30, 2014, 11:07:52 AM »
You going to keep us in suspense or tell us which group is more sensitive.

 ;)

Brian

One group is more sensitive then the other... But I don't know which. :rotflmao:

It's coming back to me now...  :doh:
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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #73 on: April 30, 2014, 11:22:30 AM »
One group is more sensitive then the other... But I don't know which. :rotflmao:

It's coming back to me now...  :doh:

 ;D I enjoyed that!  :goodpost:   :rotflmao:


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Re: ZGGTR vs COG Forum
« Reply #74 on: April 30, 2014, 11:46:39 AM »
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« Reply #75 on: April 30, 2014, 12:54:50 PM »
Drinking already Jim?    :rotflmao:
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« Reply #76 on: April 30, 2014, 12:58:16 PM »
It's quite possible, Poke.  Listening to the Monkees now..
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« Reply #77 on: April 30, 2014, 01:00:55 PM »
It's quite possible, Poke.  Listening to the Monkees now..


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« Reply #78 on: April 30, 2014, 01:08:07 PM »
Well now that you mention it......when I was much younger... ::)
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« Reply #79 on: April 30, 2014, 04:45:22 PM »
Wow when I posted this topic I wasn't sure I would get much response but reading through all these I found myself chuckling out loud and having a good time. I do believe that would hint to me that I am on the correct forum. I know I have found terrific help here in the couple months I have been on it. I have PMed a few people and everyone seems to be more then willing to help and some going out of there way and I much appreciate that and the good vibe it gives me. Roll on my brothers and thanks for being there.  :chugbeer: :thumbs:

Pages and pages could come spewing so be thankful you're only getting this much. There is a LOT more back story than you think. I just doubt anyone will bring IT up.
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