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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2018, 09:53:42 AM »
Good find but what I wonder is will it trigger the bogus low battery warning in a year just like the OEM?
soon or later it will, it use a battery too
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2018, 10:22:53 AM »
I haven't had any issues with my sensors after I replaced the batteries in them and that's been awhile ago, probably close to 4 years now at least.


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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2018, 11:30:17 AM »
can this scanner be used to clone the programmable sensors ??

  https://www.amazon.com/Autel-TS401-Activation-MX-sensor-Programming/dp/B00AERMVYC
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2018, 02:03:24 PM »
It does the same but with a different sensors brand, they work in the same frecuency, that is a good deal compared with this one
https://www.bartecusa.com/tech400pro
It is the one I used to do mine,
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2018, 02:24:10 PM »
How would it connect to the bike?
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2018, 03:41:48 PM »
Excellent info., thanks! And that tool is inexpensive enough to break even just replacing the sensors on a couple of bikes!

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It does the same but with a different sensors brand, they work in the same frecuency, that is a good deal compared with this one
https://www.bartecusa.com/tech400pro
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2018, 03:45:40 PM »
How would it connect to the bike?

My understanding is that it doesn't connect to the bike but clones the stock sensor by writing its ID number to the Schrader sensor with the 'tool.'
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2018, 04:00:06 PM »
Those interested will probably will need more information about the mounting/bracket.  Does the sensor need an air connection to the valve stem for reference to atmosphere, or does it have a self-contained vessel it compares against?  It looks in your photo like it is not air-connected to the stem, its just hanging there off that bracket you made.  (This could be a $ opportunity for someone to sell Concours "kits" with programming service and pre-made brackets.)

As an aside- without a reference to atmosphere, it cannot have an accurate reading for various elevations.  But I am thinking it is too small a difference to matter with this?  I played with some calculations and it seems it would be only about 1.5 psi difference between sea level and 3000ft.  Does the OEM compare to atmosphere?  (It looks like it probably does).
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2018, 05:19:56 PM »
Those interested will probably will need more information about the mounting/bracket.  Does the sensor need an air connection to the valve stem for reference to atmosphere, or does it have a self-contained vessel it compares against?  It looks in your photo like it is not air-connected to the stem, its just hanging there off that bracket you made.  (This could be a $ opportunity for someone to sell Concours "kits" with programming service and pre-made brackets.)

As an aside- without a reference to atmosphere, it cannot have an accurate reading for various elevations.  But I am thinking it is too small a difference to matter with this?  I played with some calculations and it seems it would be only about 1.5 psi difference between sea level and 3000ft.  Does the OEM compare to atmosphere?  (It looks like it probably does).
The sensor is enclosed inside of the tire and read only the pressure inside of the tire, same as the OEM i in this system the atmospheric pressure do not affect the reading but the temperature does
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2018, 05:22:43 PM »
My understanding is that it doesn't connect to the bike but clones the stock sensor by writing its ID number to the Schrader sensor with the 'tool.'
That is correct, for the ECU is like if the old OEM sensor still there, no programing needed to the bike ECU
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2018, 05:40:36 PM »
This is the material that i used to made the bracket, the bolt that secure the bracket to the valve stem come with it and is perforated to let the air flow and you need a little bolt to secure the sensor to the bracket and mount the flat side of the sensor against the rim, there are different kind of  valve stem depending on the brand
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2018, 05:54:28 PM »
Here is how it look from outside
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2018, 06:04:33 PM »
Here are two different stem valve, the one at the left is the one i used and it is for BMW vehicles and the air flow though the center of that bolt , the one at the  right  is the schrader, same brand as the sensor and the air flow through two little holes as the one you see in the picture
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2018, 08:06:11 PM »
It does the same but with a different sensors brand, they work in the same frecuency, that is a good deal compared with this one
https://www.bartecusa.com/tech400pro
It is the one I used to do mine,

these are the Autel sensors...

 more info from Autel....     "...if you buy a Autel MX Sensor in which you can use the TS401 or the TS501 to read the ID number from the TPMS Sensor you are replacing and program that ID number into the new Autel MX TPMS Sensor."

https://www.amazon.com/Autel-315MHz-Programmable-Pressure-Monitoring/dp/B075SBSV5Y/ref=pd_bxgy_263_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B075SBSV5Y&pd_rd_r=36e7cd62-f2ba-11e8-977c-95c218487850&pd_rd_w=bj4Mf&pd_rd_wg=yiWmN&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=6725dbd6-9917-451d-beba-16af7874e407&pf_rd_r=F6KPJVXHVYTAECVJ86TJ&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=F6KPJVXHVYTAECVJ86TJ
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2018, 02:25:24 PM »
Why did it need the angled mount? Did it protrude too far into the tire the way it came?
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2018, 03:01:51 PM »
Why did it need the angled mount? Did it protrude too far into the tire the way it came?
Yes it does and the centrifugal force that is what wake up the sensor will not be the same, the sensor is designed to be on a position in the wheel the way that it wake up when wheel spin ans as those sensor are designed for cars and no for motorcycles the purpose of the bracket is to mount  the sensor in the way that must be
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2018, 09:04:24 PM »
Thanks for researching this; I use those same sensors at work every day. We have a drawer full of them. This makes me wonder if there are right-angle valve stems that will work.


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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2018, 09:37:04 PM »
This makes me wonder if there are right-angle valve stems that will work.

I was thinking the same thing.  The straight ones are such an incredible pain in the *ss sometimes.  I like the 45 degree one, seems like a perfect compromise between straight and 90 degrees.
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Re: Generic TPMS sensor on my 09 C14
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2018, 09:32:09 AM »
Thanks for researching this; I use those same sensors at work every day. We have a drawer full of them. This makes me wonder if there are right-angle valve stems that will work.GP



edit : Such as


https://www.chapmoto.com/bikemaster-45-degree-angled-valve-stem-310-03-33?gclid=CjwKCAiAlvnfBRA1EiwAVOEgfGn1O8wSeMj8ZDaD9xP5N2YMHVrfmecnIgERZ8eUX6Bey-woIwNyXhoClZ8QAvD_BwE
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