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Title: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 03, 2013, 06:52:26 AM
Of course, you know about what I like....props and the old jets from about the 70's on back...but this can be a place to discuss any aircraft and possibly space planes....or even space ships.

This one is the Convair XC-99.  It was based on the B-36 airframe.  It was the largest piston engine land-based transport ever built.  It's still around you know, but it's a bit of a basket case unfortunately.  It's waiting to be restored at Wright Pat by the USAF Museum...but that could be decades from now.

Shameless plug  http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/ (http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/)

The B-36 shown in the video is a B model variant. 

Convair XC-99 takeoff in color (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4-YgrksFbs#noexternalembed)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_XC-99 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_XC-99)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 03, 2013, 08:03:57 AM
I used to own a 1946 Aeronca 7AC Champion and was partners on a 1958 Mooney M20A. I loved both those airplanes. But the airplane on my bucket list to at least go for a ride in is a P-51 Mustang. Sexiest looking airplane ever built.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 03, 2013, 08:27:41 AM
I like the P-38 better.  I don't know the stats between the P-51 vs the P-38, but I like the styling better.  I think that the P-38 came on-line first, though and I also think that they had different missions in the beginning.

FIVE (5) P-38 Lightnings in the air AT ONCE !!! @ 2013 PLANES OF FAME AIR SHOW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xubCaOlHJOE#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: T Cro ® on November 03, 2013, 08:55:22 AM
I went to a small local air show a few years ago (I think it was in Elkhart In) and low an behold there was a P-38 on the ground there; love the small air shows as they usually don't keep you separated from the planes on the ground.... When I told my brother that I had touched the OD Green skin he cussed me for being so lucky.... To this day the only sound that is better than a P-51 is the sound made by a P-38 Lightning....

Also got to see the Jet Waco fly at one of these tiny local airshows too; it was an absolute hoot to see and hear this plane all but leap off the ground in like 50 feet or so....

http://www.franklinairshow.com/History%20Jet%20Waco.htm (http://www.franklinairshow.com/History%20Jet%20Waco.htm)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 03, 2013, 02:12:40 PM
I used to own a 1946 Aeronca 7AC Champion and was partners on a 1958 Mooney M20A. I loved both those airplanes. But the airplane on my bucket list to at least go for a ride in is a P-51 Mustang. Sexiest looking airplane ever built.

It has to be a P51D or H for me but for a late big reciprocating piston engine prop job it takes a lot to beat an original Hawker Sea Fury

Hawker Sea Fury Argonaut Pass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipjo--zoyyE#)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=af8_1377604176&comments=1 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=af8_1377604176&comments=1)

Sea Fury.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sfas58re7k#)

Just for Jim

ROYAL NAVY AVIATION IN THE 60 s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFzRtOuj5GQ#)

HMS Ark Royal aviation opération (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv8prm4mGEQ#)

Enjoy with a plate full of Bangers & Mash with onion gravy   :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 03, 2013, 02:40:45 PM
OK Jim you had B52 we had the V Bombers (Valeant Vulcan Victor)

The Victor is just a beautiful shape and when you consider the year it entered service very advanced.

HANDLEY PAGE VICTOR TRIBUTE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeBPOxPsVfI#)

You had the Century Fighters we had the Lightning a plane that had a climb rate not bettered till the F15 era

A tribute to man and machine

Last Flight English Electric Lightning, Dave Stock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hLvufAknW8#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 03, 2013, 03:09:03 PM
Victor and Vulcan bombers at Westover AFB in the mid-60s amongst other aircraft...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/sets/72157622593975242/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/sets/72157622593975242/)

That's me in the stocks, BTW.

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on November 03, 2013, 03:45:58 PM
Statistically, the P-51 was a better plane than the P-38 once the Merlin was added.  This is why you don't see P-38's in competition at the Reno Air races these days.  They just couldn't keep up with the souped up Mustangs.

That being said, I still like the P-38 better.

Here is a craft that looks somewhat similar to the P-38,that I DID see at the Reno air races a couple of years back.  It was outclassed by the other jets in the competition, but still beautiful nonetheless...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Vampire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Vampire)

We've mentioned the XB-70 before.  Walking under the one remaining craft at Wright Patterson and touching the underbelly was a 'religious' experience for me...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_XB-70_Valkyrie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_XB-70_Valkyrie)

Growing up under the flight path to the local bombing range from the local airbase, I can still remember the distinct whine of the F-4's flying overhead.  F-4's were one of the few craft that saw service in the Air Force, Navy, and Marines simultaneously, used for a time by both the Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds.  Checking the Wiki, it looks like South Korea, Greece, and Turkey are among countries still flying the F-4, along with Iran...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_F-4_Phantom_II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_F-4_Phantom_II)

I still think that the YF-23 looks more interesting then the F-22...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_YF-23 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_YF-23)

And, of course, I must mention the X-29.  Not sure if the forward swept wings would lend themselves at all to stealthy characteristics, but they do look cool!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_X-29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_X-29)


I've attached one of the photos of the Vampire that I took at the Reno Air races.  An electrical short prevented the craft from taking off that day (pinched cable when an access panel was closed - ugh), but it did compete on the following day.  The Delfins and Albatros'es dominated the competition that year, and continue to do so... BTW, the Jet Class has a less than 15 degree maximum sweep requirement in case you were wondering...
http://www.racingjets.com/content/jets (http://www.racingjets.com/content/jets)
Title: RB-36
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 04, 2013, 04:38:14 AM
The RB-36 is a reconnaisance variant of the B-36.  The B-36 was developed to bridge an ocean to protect the US in case England was lost to the Germans.  It had nearly a 10k mile cruising range and could stay aloft more than 48 hours.  Unfortunately for it, the jet age began after WWII and for some (especially the US Navy) thought it shouldn't have seen the light of day.  The Navy wanted more carriers, of course, and didn't think that the government should spend money on a new bomber.  They lost that argument.

The B-36 was a hybrid of sorts as it had 6 rotary engines and 4 jets.  The wingspan was so large that inflight maintenance could be performed, if necessary, as there was sufficient room to crawl into the wings.

The RB was a platform for the Boston camera and they were used to photograph many of the east block countries in it's day.  They were solitary aircraft for the most part and very rarely traveled in any formation.  The B's usually traveled in packs of three.

The B/RB-36 kept the Russians at bay until the B-52 was fully operational, mid to late 50's.  The jets of the early 50's could not fly high enough (with any power) to shoot it down.  The advent of surface to air missiles, however, was another nail in it's coffin and by 1959 all were smelted down...

My dad was crew chief at Ellsworth in the early 50's on the RB.  I've linked a picture of his aircraft (748).  It was one of the longest surviving aircraft as it was used in nuclear airborne testing in the summer of 1958 as an observer aircraft.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/2279730356/#in/set-72157603949465943 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/2279730356/#in/set-72157603949465943)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 04, 2013, 07:43:55 AM
"6 turning and 4 burning" would have loved to see one of those fly.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: T Cro ® on November 04, 2013, 07:53:09 AM
What no comments of the Jet powered Waco?    :o

Talk about the ultimate farkle!    ;)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 04, 2013, 09:10:44 AM
"6 turning and 4 burning" would have loved to see one of those fly.

Me too.  Only 4 survive.   USAF Museum in Dayton.  SAC Museum outside of Omaha.  Pima has the last one off the assembly line.  And last but not least, Castle AFB has the only remaining RB in existence and it was from my dad's old squadron (718th).  I've seen all of them except the one in Pima.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 04, 2013, 09:16:55 AM
Me too.  Only 4 survive.   USAF Museum in Dayton.  SAC Museum outside of Omaha.  Pima has the last one off the assembly line.  And last but not least, Castle AFB has the only remaining RB in existence and it was from my dad's old squadron (718th).  I've seen all of them except the one in Pima.

The only one I've ever seen is the one in Pima.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: sherob on November 04, 2013, 09:50:07 AM
My two favs...

A10 Warthog

(http://www.indiwall.com/big-wallpaper/1920x1080/hd-wallpapers-a10-warthog-wallpaper-1920x1080-wallpaper.jpg)

... and an much older German version...

JU-87 Stuka

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111213205650/battlefield/images/b/b4/Ju-87_IRL.jpg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: twowheeladdict on November 04, 2013, 09:55:18 AM
MQM-107

Launching of an MQM-107 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3VKS-jjs-g#ws)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Jim M. on November 04, 2013, 10:50:52 AM
The F4U Corsair!
F4U Corsair "Whistling Death" Flight Demonstration ! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQxb-V-rZqA#)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Cholla on November 04, 2013, 10:53:44 AM
The -36 at Pima used to be the gate guard at Greater Southwest Airport (Ft. Worth-located on a corner of the DFW site) and was in danger of being scrapped because they couldn't find a place for it and the Air Force wouldn't turn it over to a civilian organization because they feared it could be used in terrorist attacks on other countries.
At the AF museum they have the camera assembly from a -36 on display. Incredibly similar to the much smaller units (120mm) I used to work on that were at one time wing cameras in Focke-Wulf 190s.
The film in the -36 camera was about 3 feet wide.
Another thing about that plane-when flying it "wiggled". The fuselage was so long it sort of "wagged its tail".
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 04, 2013, 11:05:40 AM
The F4U Corsair!
F4U Corsair "Whistling Death" Flight Demonstration ! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQxb-V-rZqA#)

+1  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 04, 2013, 01:35:51 PM
The -36 at Pima used to be the gate guard at Greater Southwest Airport (Ft. Worth-located on a corner of the DFW site) and was in danger of being scrapped because they couldn't find a place for it and the Air Force wouldn't turn it over to a civilian organization because they feared it could be used in terrorist attacks on other countries.
At the AF museum they have the camera assembly from a -36 on display. Incredibly similar to the much smaller units (120mm) I used to work on that were at one time wing cameras in Focke-Wulf 190s.
The film in the -36 camera was about 3 feet wide.
Another thing about that plane-when flying it "wiggled". The fuselage was so long it sort of "wagged its tail".

I think they have the Boston camera there...

Virtual cockpit walk through on the '36...  Go down the page to get to the links.  Other aircraft are available to walk through as well.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/virtualtour/cockpits.asp (http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/virtualtour/cockpits.asp)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 04, 2013, 04:55:51 PM
OK Guys

This is a nice little demo VT of planes we all enjoy from what we are posting. I'm sure you have seen it before but these old war birds are so beautiful in there natural environment.

Breitling Fighers - Low Level Flying (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvmUqRY8fLw#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 04, 2013, 06:07:40 PM
 :goodpost:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 04, 2013, 07:20:25 PM
OK Guys

This is a nice little demo VT of planes we all enjoy from what we are posting. I'm sure you have seen it before but these old war birds are so beautiful in there natural environment.

Breitling Fighers - Low Level Flying (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvmUqRY8fLw#ws)

I never saw that before. AWESOME!  :goodpost:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 04, 2013, 07:22:03 PM
I'm amazed no one has said Spitfire yet.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on November 04, 2013, 08:10:19 PM
I'm amazed no one has said Spitfire yet.

http://youtu.be/HTs9m3qiP4w (http://youtu.be/HTs9m3qiP4w)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 05, 2013, 12:55:01 AM
Did someone mention Spitfire.................................... :chugbeer: :chugbeer:

Spitfire under bridge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf3UtmHLKUU#)
Title: The real story of WWII's B-17 "All American" Separating Fact and Fiction
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 05, 2013, 09:02:43 AM
On a larger note....

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbird-articles/wwiis-b-17-all-american-separating-fact-fiction.html (http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbird-articles/wwiis-b-17-all-american-separating-fact-fiction.html)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 05, 2013, 10:02:41 AM
Did someone mention Spitfire.................................... :chugbeer: :chugbeer:

Spitfire under bridge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf3UtmHLKUU#)

Would love to be standing on that bridge.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: ManWorkinghere on November 05, 2013, 10:58:11 AM
The P-40 Warhawk has been my favorite looking warbird for the longest time.  I find the visual appeal of its design very appealing, even before the Chennault 'tiger' grin is painted on.

I have built flying balsa and tissue models after assembling quite a few 1/72 and 1/48 plastic scale models as a young boy.  The P-40 is a fun looking flyer to me.

I know about the British variants and the Australian ones that still survive too.  I appreciate having the EAA museum in Oshkosh, WI nearby to get a Warbird fix once in a while.  However, there is no Warhawk in their collection.

One of my favorite bookmarks to waste time watching:

Military Documentary Channel
Flying Aces --- P-40 Warhawk (The Flying Tigers)
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA3B6B6EE9285415A (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA3B6B6EE9285415A)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 05, 2013, 12:52:46 PM
I'm lucky that I live in what was known as Bomber County.

Enjoy the following

90 minutes down the M11 we have Duxford


http://www.iwm.org.uk/events/iwm-duxford (http://www.iwm.org.uk/events/iwm-duxford)

40 minutes up the road we have

http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/ (http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/)

The Red Arrows are 30 minutes up the road

http://www.raf.mod.uk/reds/ (http://www.raf.mod.uk/reds/)

under an hour away is Scampton and the home of 617 Sq.

http://www.dambusters.org.uk/ (http://www.dambusters.org.uk/)

also under an hour away is

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/ (http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/)

Footage from Lancaster bomber of the RAF Battle of Britain Memorial Flight at Derwent Reservoir. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMrYqJYqeiE#ws)

Lancaster Bomber East Kirkby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_-dHAksHOk#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 05, 2013, 12:58:08 PM
Would love to be standing on that bridge.

You and me both  ;D

but would love to be in the cockpit :)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 05, 2013, 01:12:14 PM
To keep all you P40 / F4U / P51D / Spitfire fans happy bunnies  ;D

Note B17 Sally B parked up . This is the only airworthy B17 this side of the pond and has feature in many films including Memphis Bell

Breitling Fighters' Display Team Duxford 2002 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKZWsfKh1Lw#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 05, 2013, 01:25:03 PM
Me sitting in the bombardier seat of B-17 "Aluminum Overcast".

(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/5613_1023431442784_6938287_n.jpg)

Sorry, all this talk of WWII aircraft, I just had to share.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 05, 2013, 01:28:29 PM
To keep all you P40 / F4U / P51D / Spitfire fans happy bunnies  ;D

Note B17 Sally B parked up . This is the only airworthy B17 this side of the pond and has feature in many films including Memphis Bell

Breitling Fighters' Display Team Duxford 2002 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKZWsfKh1Lw#)

That does make me a happy bunny! One of these days I've got to get to Duxford!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 05, 2013, 01:58:27 PM
Rhino ...........................................words fail me.............................Lucky Lucky Boy  :chugbeer: :chugbeer: :chugbeer: :chugbeer: :chugbeer: :chugbeer: :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 05, 2013, 02:03:26 PM
Rhino..............it would be my pleasure to show you Duxford and my part of the world........................I got really hooked on Thorpe Abbotts and "The Bloody Hundredth" after reading Harry Crosby's book "Wing and a Prayer"...............again UK is a small over crowded island so we could get it all seen in 21 days lol
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 05, 2013, 02:07:54 PM
If you liked that, here I am shooting down Messerschmitt's on the same flight.

(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/5613_1023431482785_5975809_n.jpg)

And yes I feel very lucky getting the chance to fly in a B-17. I took my son with me. Made it even more special.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 05, 2013, 02:10:44 PM
Rhino..............it would be my pleasure to show you Duxford and my part of the world........................I got really hooked on Thorpe Abbotts and "The Bloody Hundredth" after reading Harry Crosby's book "Wing and a Prayer"...............again UK is a small over crowded island so we could get it all seen in 21 days lol

Thank you! I will look you up if I ever get the chance to go there. I get to Europe often enough on business but have never had the chance to go to the UK.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 05, 2013, 02:14:01 PM
Also got a chance to fly a T-6 from the back seat. We were in a formation of 4 when I took this photo:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1401184_3553841101444_1601744427_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 05, 2013, 02:47:46 PM
Book a night taxi run in the Lanc at East Kirkby then create that window of opportunity to of ridden in the 2 most iconic multi's ever made.......................

I'll provide the transport ...............your choice is

1) Most of my mates run M3 (common as muck here)..................I prefer Thunder from down under badged Vauxhall Monaro 6.0 VXR

THE STIG - DRIFTING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D8dw037WTg#ws)

2) Renault Avantime

Top Gear's opinion on Renault Avantime (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zTyfulQJuo#)

3) 1400GTR

May even show you a brewery tour + sausages for you to tell Jim about lol

Just seen your T6 pic's  :chugbeer: :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 05, 2013, 02:50:04 PM
On the B17 how did you get past the bomb racks ????

I thought you had to weigh in at 100lbs to get through ?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 05, 2013, 03:06:48 PM
On the B17 how did you get past the bomb racks ????

I thought you had to weigh in at 100lbs to get through ?

Yes please on the brewery + sausage tour. Beer and sausage, 2 of the best things on earth to consume by mouth. :chugbeer:

I had no problem going past the bomb racks. That B-17 is owned by the EAA and they regularly sell flights in it. They had some small dummy bombs in the racks. Maybe with full size 500 lbs. bombs it would be more of a squeeze.  Couldn't get into the tail gunner position and the ball turret was right out. They had those closed anyway.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 06, 2013, 05:18:20 AM
Here's a little something from Charlie that's somewhat aircraft minded...   It's a .pps file which is a Powerpoint Show file...

[smg id=601 type=av]
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on November 06, 2013, 06:12:03 PM
While not a 'real aircraft', I always enjoy seeing this one on the movie screen:

http://aibob.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/fa-37-talon-fictional-stealth-aircraft/ (http://aibob.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/fa-37-talon-fictional-stealth-aircraft/)

I think the design team for that movie did a pretty good job designing a nice looking jet, and incorporating some of the latest techological ideas (Forward swept wings at lower speeds, adjustable to delta wings at higher speeds, and a reduced radar signature) into the design.  Apparently Northrop Grumman filed a patent for a 'Variable Forward  Sweep Wing" in 1999, which looks rather similar to this wing design.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_military_aircraft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_military_aircraft)

Here's a music video someone put together showing one of the combat sequences from the film.  The EDI UCAV Tinman is also featured:
F/A-37 vs Su-37 Dogfight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMniVgLBkyM#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: rocknrod on November 08, 2013, 01:50:29 PM
I want one of these Thunder Mustangs http://www.thundermustang.com/kits-for-sale/ (http://www.thundermustang.com/kits-for-sale/)
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6230/6237836247_c77b1be910_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 08, 2013, 03:42:51 PM
Ok guys have you seen or heard of this beautiful beast ?

You have JFK we have TSR2 !!!

The British Aircraft Corporation TSR-2 - Excellent Documentary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEtkrZiDDGc#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 08, 2013, 04:00:07 PM
I want one of these Thunder Mustangs http://www.thundermustang.com/kits-for-sale/ (http://www.thundermustang.com/kits-for-sale/)
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6230/6237836247_c77b1be910_z.jpg)

OK I've used the  link and put it at the top of my Santa list lol ;D
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 08, 2013, 04:04:01 PM
Charlie, you're in charge of the British aircraft in this thread so bring it on!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 08, 2013, 04:45:08 PM
Charlie, you're in charge of the British aircraft in this thread so bring it on!
[/quote

You guys happy with TSR2 type stuff?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 08, 2013, 05:09:55 PM
So this the Victor one of the V Bombers

Famous Warplanes - Handley Page Victor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihLpjp56pVg#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 08, 2013, 07:46:20 PM
Charlie, you're in charge of the British aircraft in this thread so bring it on!
[/quote

You guys happy with TSR2 type stuff?

I don't know about anyone else, but I am.  It nearly made me cry.  I hate to see aircraft broken up and neglected.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 08, 2013, 09:31:18 PM
You guys happy with TSR2 type stuff?

That is one wicked looking airplane.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 08, 2013, 09:41:30 PM
I want one of these Thunder Mustangs http://www.thundermustang.com/kits-for-sale/ (http://www.thundermustang.com/kits-for-sale/)
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6230/6237836247_c77b1be910_z.jpg)

What's not to like? I thought they went out of business when the original prototype crashed. Happy to see they're making a go of it. Now where to get $297,000? Honey, do we really need this house?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 09, 2013, 02:27:09 PM
What's not to like? I thought they went out of business when the original prototype crashed. Happy to see they're making a go of it. Now where to get $297,000? Honey, do we really need this house?

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Now you tell me they are ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,how we say.......................DODGY !!!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 09, 2013, 03:08:11 PM
Possibly the most beautiful wooden wonder

Flying DH Mosquito KA114. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGfQQWOsoB8#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 10, 2013, 11:50:49 AM
What a beautiful aircraft.  I was just looking at some the other while online.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Bergmen on November 12, 2013, 10:39:04 AM
What's not to like? I thought they went out of business when the original prototype crashed. Happy to see they're making a go of it. Now where to get $297,000? Honey, do we really need this house?

The $297,000.00 does not appear to include the $75,000.00+ Falconer V-12 engine (only the prop, drive system, etc.).

Dan
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 12, 2013, 02:10:45 PM
The $297,000.00 does not appear to include the $75,000.00+ Falconer V-12 engine (only the prop, drive system, etc.).

Dan

Wow that's serious wonga lol

It still looks so sweet though.................I wonder if I sell my organs I'll raise the money ?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 12, 2013, 02:17:17 PM
This is todays introduction to the Vulcans only action not as a Nuclear delivery system but a iron bomb dropper!!!

 XM607 - Falklands' Most Daring Raid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40knj0qg_Us#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 13, 2013, 04:49:39 AM
I was this close to joining up and heading down to the Falklands when Argentina decided on their bit of mischief.  I think that I stayed glued to the tv the entire time.  What I don't understand is why GB did not use the Victors.  They were faster, had longer ranges, and carried more conventional bombs.

Thanks for providing the video, Charlie.  It gave me goose bumps.  I'm still watching it but I have to get some stuff done this morning...like work.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: jim snyder on November 13, 2013, 05:49:53 AM
The SR-71 was one of my all time favorites. If you have never seen the video of the guy with the radio controlled SR-71, google "Radio Controlled SR-71" and enjoy. Even the RC model will amaze you.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Cholla on November 13, 2013, 10:05:56 AM
I have to admit a fondness for the SR myself. Amazing what was designed with a slide rule. Even more amazing there isn't anything (?) more advanced today.
I'll be meeting up with an old friend tonight who used to wrench on the SR and U2.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: just gone on November 13, 2013, 10:36:15 AM
Even more amazing there isn't anything (?) more advanced today.

(?) exactly!......or so they would have us believe.  :-X  8)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: okxd45 on November 13, 2013, 04:58:58 PM
When I was stationed at Hill AFB I learned to truly appreciate the F16.  Loved when someone important was around and they would do a "demo run".  :)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on November 13, 2013, 06:55:23 PM
When I was stationed at Hill AFB I learned to truly appreciate the F16.  Loved when someone important was around and they would do a "demo run".  :)

Those very F-16s you grew to appreciate still fly over my house on the way to the UTTR (http://www.hill.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=5614).  In fact, they've been conducting night training missions in the last week or so, and I heard a pair zoom overhead just a few minutes ago.  The F-4's had a more distinctive sound when they used to fly overhead, back when the 388th still had them, but the F-16s are cool too!

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Nosmo on November 13, 2013, 07:52:16 PM
These threads always show the same dozen or so "favorite" aircraft.  That's OK, but MY favorite has always been the Grumman J2F Duck. 

https://www.google.com/#q=picture+of+grumman+duck (https://www.google.com/#q=picture+of+grumman+duck)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_J2F_Duck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_J2F_Duck)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 13, 2013, 08:21:54 PM
That's the whole point of this thread....Aircraft we like.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 14, 2013, 04:30:34 PM
I was this close to joining up and heading down to the Falklands when Argentina decided on their bit of mischief.  I think that I stayed glued to the tv the entire time.  What I don't understand is why GB did not use the Victors.  They were faster, had longer ranges, and carried more conventional bombs.

Thanks for providing the video, Charlie.  It gave me goose bumps.  I'm still watching it but I have to get some stuff done this morning...like work.

As I understand it the V bombers (Valiant / Vulcan / Victor) were designed at a time when SAM technology was poor and the mind set was if you flew high and fast nothing would hurt you................................you guys lost a U2 to a SAM in the Gary Powers incident.  Hence the SR71 a plane that was only publically acknowledged years after its first missions......................That loss of your U2 caused a major rethink of the British mutually assured destruction defence scenario with the government of the day buying Polaris.................................in the stop gap years before that system went live we had to defend ourselves so the low high low mission profile was employed with the V bombers.......................................The Valiant did not stand up to the massively increased airframe stress that low level flying brought and after a series of accidents the fleet was x-rayed and grounded after the main wing spares were found to have fatigue fractures.  You are correct Jim in saying that the Victor went faster / carried more further than the Vulcan but the Vulcan handled the low level work far better than Victor.  The early Victor fleet had already been converted to tankers so the Mk2's went the same way........................The Vulcans at the time of the Falkland's had already been scrapped and the planes were put back to service much to the delight of the public.  The Victors were still in service years later in the Gulf topping up allied planes.


https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=v+bombers&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4ADRA_enGB430IE526&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=q1qFUvOHKM-ThgegrYDwBQ&ved=0CDgQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=587#facrc=_&imgdii=uiXiQF8ouM6-gM%3A%3BN_aeICQYyU1FgM%3BuiXiQF8ouM6-gM%3A&imgrc=uiXiQF8ouM6-gM%3A%3BPe_afdeFxDv1LM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fspeedreaders.info%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2010%252F04%252FVbombers1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fspeedreaders.info%252F191-profiles_of_flight_by_windle_aamp_bowman%3B498%3B368 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=v+bombers&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4ADRA_enGB430IE526&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=q1qFUvOHKM-ThgegrYDwBQ&ved=0CDgQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=587#facrc=_&imgdii=uiXiQF8ouM6-gM%3A%3BN_aeICQYyU1FgM%3BuiXiQF8ouM6-gM%3A&imgrc=uiXiQF8ouM6-gM%3A%3BPe_afdeFxDv1LM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fspeedreaders.info%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2010%252F04%252FVbombers1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fspeedreaders.info%252F191-profiles_of_flight_by_windle_aamp_bowman%3B498%3B368)

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4ADRA_enGB430IE526&biw=1366&bih=587&tbm=isch&tbnid=9xVHNb1agL2MxM:&imgrefurl=http://www.wingweb.co.uk/aircraft/The_Handley_Page_Victor.html&docid=HWqzGrnQTcZbZM&imgurl=http://www.wingweb.co.uk/wingweb/img/450-Handley_page_victor_b1_hp.jpg&w=450&h=313&ei=MVuFUrG_KdKThQet4oCgDA&zoom=1&iact=rc&page=2&tbnh=187&tbnw=237&start=9&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:19,s:0&tx=127&ty=122 (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4ADRA_enGB430IE526&biw=1366&bih=587&tbm=isch&tbnid=9xVHNb1agL2MxM:&imgrefurl=http://www.wingweb.co.uk/aircraft/The_Handley_Page_Victor.html&docid=HWqzGrnQTcZbZM&imgurl=http://www.wingweb.co.uk/wingweb/img/450-Handley_page_victor_b1_hp.jpg&w=450&h=313&ei=MVuFUrG_KdKThQet4oCgDA&zoom=1&iact=rc&page=2&tbnh=187&tbnw=237&start=9&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:19,s:0&tx=127&ty=122)

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4ADRA_enGB430IE526&biw=1366&bih=587&tbm=isch&tbnid=wJQ1xt4WYsBIhM:&imgrefurl=http://tailspinstales.blogspot.com/2009/04/falkland-mission-impossible.html&docid=MjyNWQOwQJf9QM&imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NFtqCMIGTKU/SePWG8-IiOI/AAAAAAAACQw/45xAk5YjuxQ/s400/vulcan3.jpg.jpeg&w=400&h=266&ei=MVuFUrG_KdKThQet4oCgDA&zoom=1&iact=rc&page=2&tbnh=183&tbnw=216&start=9&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:21,s:0&tx=110&ty=99 (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4ADRA_enGB430IE526&biw=1366&bih=587&tbm=isch&tbnid=wJQ1xt4WYsBIhM:&imgrefurl=http://tailspinstales.blogspot.com/2009/04/falkland-mission-impossible.html&docid=MjyNWQOwQJf9QM&imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NFtqCMIGTKU/SePWG8-IiOI/AAAAAAAACQw/45xAk5YjuxQ/s400/vulcan3.jpg.jpeg&w=400&h=266&ei=MVuFUrG_KdKThQet4oCgDA&zoom=1&iact=rc&page=2&tbnh=183&tbnw=216&start=9&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:21,s:0&tx=110&ty=99)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 14, 2013, 05:32:34 PM
Good answer!  Thanks!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Cholla on November 15, 2013, 11:24:20 AM
The problem with the U2 was it flew high (70k ft) but not very fast. Top speed is 500 mph and cruise 375 mph.
The SR fixed that at 100k + and Mach 3+ and very stealthy.
But the SR has been retired and the U2 (TR-2) is still flying.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: sherob on November 15, 2013, 12:01:02 PM
it's ok... SR-72 on it's way....  8)

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/170463-lockheed-unveils-sr-72-hypersonic-mach-6-scramjet-spy-plane (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/170463-lockheed-unveils-sr-72-hypersonic-mach-6-scramjet-spy-plane)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Nosmo on November 15, 2013, 04:35:40 PM
I just saw a reference to "the cornfield bomber" on TV and found this article.  Amazing story about a pilot who punched out and the aircraft that "landed itself".  I grew up close to an Air Force base that flew F-106's and when I was a kid I loved watching them scream over our house.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornfield_Bomber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornfield_Bomber)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Cholla on November 16, 2013, 05:30:24 PM
it's ok... SR-72 on it's way....  8)

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/170463-lockheed-unveils-sr-72-hypersonic-mach-6-scramjet-spy-plane (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/170463-lockheed-unveils-sr-72-hypersonic-mach-6-scramjet-spy-plane)
If the -71 was too expensive to operate the -72 most assuredly will be.
The big problem with the -71 is all the tooling to make parts was ordered destroyed while the craft were still in use.
Notice they say the -71 was put in service in '66? The planes were built in '61, as evidenced by their serial numbers.
I have a couple friends who were part of the U2 and SR program. They have some neat stories from their travels around the world with HABU.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 16, 2013, 05:46:15 PM
Charlie, you'll never believe this but I stopped in an Antique store in Verona, Virginia after a job and came across a picture, fully framed, of the Avro Vulcan.  Couldn't believe it and now I have to find a place to hang it.  Course, this is also the area where I found an IBM synchronized clock...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 17, 2013, 02:01:54 PM
Charlie, you'll never believe this but I stopped in an Antique store in Verona, Virginia after a job and came across a picture, fully framed, of the Avro Vulcan.  Couldn't believe it and now I have to find a place to hang it.  Course, this is also the area where I found an IBM synchronized clock...

LOL.........................I'll email you some pictures of local sights when I get a day off.......................should put a smile on your faces....................what is the XH number of the plane in your picture Jim ?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 17, 2013, 02:34:32 PM
For Jim


Vulcan Bomber (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_X5QYBSto#ws)

Avro Lancaster start up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3u5pqwNjGw#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 17, 2013, 02:44:50 PM
Thank you, Charlie!  Bombers are my favorite and I do have soft spot for Vulcans.

The art is going to take a bit of detective work.  No XH number that I can see but there are some distinctive markings on it so maybe I can determine something from that.  The art is 'signed' by a Carol Steed, dated 1978 and the aircraft is landing.  At least I hope it is...the parachute is deployed.  Not good form to do that on a take off..

Narrowed down to 44 (Rhodesia) Squadron...based out of RAF Waddington.  Squadron was disbanded in 1982 :'( .

What a beautiful aircraft....sigh.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 17, 2013, 03:18:58 PM
In doing a search for the aircraft I found that RAF Brize Norton (Oxfordshire) is 'Alive!'.  I thought that base died when US forces left in 1965.  Also found out it was one of the bases used for temporary deployments of the B/RB-36.  They came over for visits (that's how my Dad met my Mom), but they never overstayed their welcome.  Brize Norton was also a SAC Reflex base for the B-47.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Bergmen on November 19, 2013, 02:53:10 PM
If the -71 was too expensive to operate the -72 most assuredly will be.
The big problem with the -71 is all the tooling to make parts was ordered destroyed while the craft were still in use.
Notice they say the -71 was put in service in '66? The planes were built in '61, as evidenced by their serial numbers.
I have a couple friends who were part of the U2 and SR program. They have some neat stories from their travels around the world with HABU.

The A-12 (forerunner of the SR-71) first flew on April 25, 1962. The first flight of the SR-71 was on December 22, 1964.

Dan
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on November 21, 2013, 10:12:58 AM
I like this one.

Boeing 747 jumbo jet stuck after mistakenly landing at tiny Kansas airport.
The airfield where the plane landed is around thousand feet too short for the huge airplane to take off.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/massive-boeing-747-jumbo-jet-stuck-after-mistakenly-landing-at-tiny-kansas-airport-8954408.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/massive-boeing-747-jumbo-jet-stuck-after-mistakenly-landing-at-tiny-kansas-airport-8954408.html)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: ManWorkinghere on November 21, 2013, 10:55:38 AM
I like this one.

Boeing 747 jumbo jet stuck after mistakenly landing at tiny Kansas airport.
The airfield where the plane landed is around thousand feet too short for the huge airplane to take off (SAFELY)


Planes can always takeoff from any runway but doing so successfully does depend on the length of said runway
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 21, 2013, 11:12:14 AM
I like this one.

Boeing 747 jumbo jet stuck after mistakenly landing at tiny Kansas airport.
The airfield where the plane landed is around thousand feet too short for the huge airplane to take off.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/massive-boeing-747-jumbo-jet-stuck-after-mistakenly-landing-at-tiny-kansas-airport-8954408.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/massive-boeing-747-jumbo-jet-stuck-after-mistakenly-landing-at-tiny-kansas-airport-8954408.html)

I read this one. Jabara airport is located to the NW of Wichita and McConnell AFB is to the south about 10 miles apart. Jabara has runway 18/36 6100'x100'. McConnell has runway 19/01 12000'x150'. Jabara has white-green beacon, McConnell has white-white-green beacon. The list that differentiates these 2 airports is endless. Soooooo I give up, how does one get into the left seat of a 747 and make this mistake?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on November 21, 2013, 11:49:04 AM
The owners of the plane says if they dump payload and fuel they can fly it out. Unconfirmed radio report.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Cholla on November 21, 2013, 12:46:27 PM
Officials say they are good to go.
6100 feet should be enough to get it flying. Thing is they will be dragging it out and then do a max climb after getting a bit more speed. Hope there are no obstacles at the end of the runway and I hope there is a bit of a headwind.

Another question is they were in contact with ATC. Why weren't they told they were going to the wrong airport and that plane shouldn't be landing there?
I haven't seen where there was any cargo aboard, but they were stopping at McConnnell to pick up cargo.
Somebody's butt is going to be in a sling.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 21, 2013, 03:55:31 PM
Officials say they are good to go.
6100 feet should be enough to get it flying. Thing is they will be dragging it out and then do a max climb after getting a bit more speed. Hope there are no obstacles at the end of the runway and I hope there is a bit of a headwind.

Another question is they were in contact with ATC. Why weren't they told they were going to the wrong airport and that plane shouldn't be landing there?
I haven't seen where there was any cargo aboard, but they were stopping at McConnnell to pick up cargo.
Somebody's butt is going to be in a sling.

Good question!

McConnell tower 747 heavy on final runway 19
errrr.... no your not!

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gwocni on November 21, 2013, 05:31:21 PM
Did someone mention Spitfire.................................... :chugbeer: :chugbeer:

Spitfire under bridge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf3UtmHLKUU#)

The most recognisable aircraft and engine in the world.....................
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gwocni on November 21, 2013, 05:36:57 PM
As I understand it the V bombers (Valiant / Vulcan / Victor) were designed at a time when SAM technology was poor and the mind set was if you flew high and fast nothing would hurt you................................you guys lost a U2 to a SAM in the Gary Powers incident.  Hence the SR71 a plane that was only publically acknowledged years after its first missions......................That loss of your U2 caused a major rethink of the British mutually assured destruction defence scenario with the government of the day buying Polaris.................................in the stop gap years before that system went live we had to defend ourselves so the low high low mission profile was employed with the V bombers.......................................The Valiant did not stand up to the massively increased airframe stress that low level flying brought and after a series of accidents the fleet was x-rayed and grounded after the main wing spares were found to have fatigue fractures.  You are correct Jim in saying that the Victor went faster / carried more further than the Vulcan but the Vulcan handled the low level work far better than Victor.  The early Victor fleet had already been converted to tankers so the Mk2's went the same way........................The Vulcans at the time of the Falkland's had already been scrapped and the planes were put back to service much to the delight of the public.  The Victors were still in service years later in the Gulf topping up allied planes.


https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=v+bombers&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4ADRA_enGB430IE526&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=q1qFUvOHKM-ThgegrYDwBQ&ved=0CDgQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=587#facrc=_&imgdii=uiXiQF8ouM6-gM%3A%3BN_aeICQYyU1FgM%3BuiXiQF8ouM6-gM%3A&imgrc=uiXiQF8ouM6-gM%3A%3BPe_afdeFxDv1LM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fspeedreaders.info%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2010%252F04%252FVbombers1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fspeedreaders.info%252F191-profiles_of_flight_by_windle_aamp_bowman%3B498%3B368 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=v+bombers&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4ADRA_enGB430IE526&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=q1qFUvOHKM-ThgegrYDwBQ&ved=0CDgQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=587#facrc=_&imgdii=uiXiQF8ouM6-gM%3A%3BN_aeICQYyU1FgM%3BuiXiQF8ouM6-gM%3A&imgrc=uiXiQF8ouM6-gM%3A%3BPe_afdeFxDv1LM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fspeedreaders.info%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2010%252F04%252FVbombers1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fspeedreaders.info%252F191-profiles_of_flight_by_windle_aamp_bowman%3B498%3B368)

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4ADRA_enGB430IE526&biw=1366&bih=587&tbm=isch&tbnid=9xVHNb1agL2MxM:&imgrefurl=http://www.wingweb.co.uk/aircraft/The_Handley_Page_Victor.html&docid=HWqzGrnQTcZbZM&imgurl=http://www.wingweb.co.uk/wingweb/img/450-Handley_page_victor_b1_hp.jpg&w=450&h=313&ei=MVuFUrG_KdKThQet4oCgDA&zoom=1&iact=rc&page=2&tbnh=187&tbnw=237&start=9&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:19,s:0&tx=127&ty=122 (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4ADRA_enGB430IE526&biw=1366&bih=587&tbm=isch&tbnid=9xVHNb1agL2MxM:&imgrefurl=http://www.wingweb.co.uk/aircraft/The_Handley_Page_Victor.html&docid=HWqzGrnQTcZbZM&imgurl=http://www.wingweb.co.uk/wingweb/img/450-Handley_page_victor_b1_hp.jpg&w=450&h=313&ei=MVuFUrG_KdKThQet4oCgDA&zoom=1&iact=rc&page=2&tbnh=187&tbnw=237&start=9&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:19,s:0&tx=127&ty=122)

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4ADRA_enGB430IE526&biw=1366&bih=587&tbm=isch&tbnid=wJQ1xt4WYsBIhM:&imgrefurl=http://tailspinstales.blogspot.com/2009/04/falkland-mission-impossible.html&docid=MjyNWQOwQJf9QM&imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NFtqCMIGTKU/SePWG8-IiOI/AAAAAAAACQw/45xAk5YjuxQ/s400/vulcan3.jpg.jpeg&w=400&h=266&ei=MVuFUrG_KdKThQet4oCgDA&zoom=1&iact=rc&page=2&tbnh=183&tbnw=216&start=9&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:21,s:0&tx=110&ty=99 (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4ADRA_enGB430IE526&biw=1366&bih=587&tbm=isch&tbnid=wJQ1xt4WYsBIhM:&imgrefurl=http://tailspinstales.blogspot.com/2009/04/falkland-mission-impossible.html&docid=MjyNWQOwQJf9QM&imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NFtqCMIGTKU/SePWG8-IiOI/AAAAAAAACQw/45xAk5YjuxQ/s400/vulcan3.jpg.jpeg&w=400&h=266&ei=MVuFUrG_KdKThQet4oCgDA&zoom=1&iact=rc&page=2&tbnh=183&tbnw=216&start=9&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:21,s:0&tx=110&ty=99)


I concur :)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gwocni on November 21, 2013, 07:14:12 PM
My top three...............

1.... Achtung Spitfeuer.
Spitfire under bridge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf3UtmHLKUU#)

2. EE Lightning.......
English.Electric. Lightning story. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TqyLe5U8ac#)

3....... I worked on the PR9s......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Canberra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Canberra)

Only in the Royal Air Force..... :finger_fing11:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gwocni on November 21, 2013, 07:24:40 PM
And finally, that's the way to do it..........
Aircraft Marshalling 12 Sqn way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz7FI_S0_NE#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on November 21, 2013, 08:27:14 PM
The owners of the plane says if they dump payload and fuel they can fly it out. Unconfirmed radio report.

From what they said on NBC news, they brought in a new crew, that was able to get it off the ground and into the air.  Here's a link to a local story about the successful takeoff.

Jumbo 747 Dreamlifter takes off after being stranded at tiny Kansas airport (http://www.10news.com/news/giant-747-dreamlifter-jet-stuck-after-landing-at-wrong-airport-in-kansas11212013)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rick Hall on November 21, 2013, 09:16:32 PM
Good question!

McConnell tower 747 heavy on final runway 19
errrr.... no your not!

Mostly... except for...
I've flown into many (OK, at least ten) towered airports in a light plane. The radio call from tower is typically "call three mile base one one right..."

In a LARGE plane, the radio work is typically: ATC sez: contact Denver approach 122.95. And this is from 50 miles out. Denver approach will say Contact tower 125.35. Tower will say "cleared landing one one right" from 5-10 miles out. Keep in mind LARGE planes fly substantially faster than a Cessna 152.

How they screwed up landing at that airport is beyond me, but I know it *could* happen. In theory ;)

In their defense (and mine too?), their short field landing/take-off skills are 110%. I quiver a bit when I have to land on a 50' wide 3000' PAVED runway in a 182 at altitude (6,000').

Rick
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Nosmo on November 22, 2013, 12:01:12 AM
This happens more often than you might think.  When I worked at Renton Airport here in Washington State back in the last 1980's, one day an F-4 Phantom came roaring in amidst the Cessna 150s and Stuper Cubs, scaring the hell out of everybody.  Note that this is a 5,300 foot runway with Lake Washington right at the north end.  The Phantom taxied back to the south end, and after  a slight delay,  went screaming out with A/B, which was rather impressive, actually.  We knew the guys in the tower so we called and asked "WTF??".  Turns out the pilot was taking to, and cleared to land at, King County International Airport, (also called Boeing Field) which is a couple of miles to the west.  I bet that pilot got excited when he noticed the runway he was committed to was missing the last 5,000 feet and had a lake on the end.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Tim on November 22, 2013, 04:17:47 AM
But F-4's don't need no stinking runway don't cha know. They know how to cat and trap.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Cholla on November 22, 2013, 05:55:28 AM
I read an article yesterday they thought they had landed at Abeech Airport.
So,..
They were supposed to fly to McConnell. They thought they were flying to Beech. They landed at Jabara.
What did they have their instruments set for?
And since they were in contact with the tower at McConnell, couldn't the guys there see there was no plane landing right in front of them?
Once landed ATC THEN told them they landed at the wrong airport. The pilots axed where they were!
They told ATC their GPS coordinates (what was it set for and where did they think they were going if using it).
ATC then told them they had landed at Jabara.
I love how every article I've seen says an airport with a 6000 ft runway is tiny.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on November 22, 2013, 06:16:53 AM
They said they brought in a new crew to fly it out. I would have liked to hear the conversation between the owner and the crew that dropped it at the wrong airport. It had to be epic.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 22, 2013, 08:10:43 AM
I thought that any landing that you can walk away from is a good landing.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gwocni on November 22, 2013, 03:50:31 PM
Ooops............... http://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/1017.pdf (http://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/1017.pdf)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 22, 2013, 04:24:02 PM
Many years ago my brother was a flight instructor and crop duster out of Loveland CO. He said he was at Ft. Collins Loveland airport when some guy landed in a Cessna, taxied up to the pumps, got out and asked if he was in North Platte Nebraska. Crystal clear summer day. My brother pointed out those big bumpy things to the west and said they don't have them in North Platte.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on November 22, 2013, 08:26:42 PM
Since someone mentioned the 'non-standard' runway thing kinda sorta, I have to give props to the Swedish Air Force.  One of the 'specs' they have insisted on, at least until recently, was the ability to land their fighter jets on unconventional airstrips (read: roads specially prepared beforehand, to accomodate the craft), be able to service them 'in the field', and with shorter takeoff distances, with the thought that should a war start, their main airbases would likely be toast in short order.

Plus, I've just always liked the lines of the Saab 37 Viggen...
My dad was allowed to ride in the back seat of one during a TDY, which was a very memorable experience for him of course.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_37_Viggen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_37_Viggen)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gwocni on November 23, 2013, 02:14:06 PM
And finally, that's the way to do it..........
Aircraft Marshalling 12 Sqn way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz7FI_S0_NE#)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz7FI_S0_NE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz7FI_S0_NE#)
You gotta laugh at this, come on guys..............
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 01, 2013, 12:03:27 PM
Though you would like this one Jim..............................Any news on your Vulcan numbers or id ?  Rode out Friday on 200 mile business trip and went past Sculthorpe base.

Convair YB60 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFWH8aaQkmk#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 01, 2013, 03:03:58 PM
See here...  http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=15610.msg192467#msg192467 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=15610.msg192467#msg192467)  But that is all I could find.

Nice video..as much as I like anything '36, the 52 was the clear winner here.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: ManWorkinghere on December 02, 2013, 09:04:25 AM
The P-61 was one of the largest plastic model aircraft I put together.  Using all my allowance for a month, I believe it was in 1/48 scale.  I saw a real one last summer at Wright -Patterson in Dayton.  Nice.

http://youtu.be/FZxlIjQqiTk (http://youtu.be/FZxlIjQqiTk)   

http://youtu.be/vDUHjD0MLqY (http://youtu.be/vDUHjD0MLqY)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 02, 2013, 01:25:04 PM
Ooops............... http://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/1017.pdf (http://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/1017.pdf)

 :goodpost:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 03, 2013, 04:14:54 PM
As we're talking aircraft here....news from the USAF Museum in Dayton...

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123372682 (http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123372682)

I'm proud to say that I helped fund this addition, albeit a very very very small portion. ;)

Ground breaking sometime in the spring of '14.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 03, 2013, 04:19:38 PM
This month in USAF history 1964....the SR-71 exceeded an altitude of 45,000 ft and speed of 1000mph on it's maiden flight at Palmdale.

Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird Must See Clips (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N31eEXjNAUU#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gwocni on December 03, 2013, 05:05:22 PM
This month in USAF history 1964....the SR-71 exceeded an altitude of 45,000 ft and speed of 1000mph on it's maiden flight at Palmdale.

Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird Must See Clips (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N31eEXjNAUU#)

Was this when the Canberra sat above the Blackbird and took pictures?  lololol.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 03, 2013, 05:49:11 PM
Somehow I doubt that....  I do give you an A for imagination, though. ;)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gwocni on December 03, 2013, 06:02:17 PM
Somehow I doubt that....  I do give you an A for imagination, though. ;)

Oops............. http://www.bywat.co.uk/canframes.html (http://www.bywat.co.uk/canframes.html)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 03, 2013, 08:08:21 PM
Here's one (MK-20) from 2 squadron....Aussie, I think.  PRAB Vietnam taken some time between 67-68.  A few F-100s from the 352nd TFS and some B-57s from the 8th TBS...enjoy.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/3998166764/#in/set-72157622554528524 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/3998166764/#in/set-72157622554528524)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like.
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 05, 2013, 06:00:59 AM
F-35 vs F-18 Super Hornet (comparison)

F-35 or F-18 Super Hornet: It's really not that complicated (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWJeqrvoF6M#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Cholla on December 05, 2013, 09:22:54 AM
I'll take the F-14, please.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like.
Post by: gwocni on December 05, 2013, 05:08:16 PM
F-35 vs F-18 Super Hornet (comparison)

F-35 or F-18 Super Hornet: It's really not that complicated (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWJeqrvoF6M#ws)

Brilliant.......................
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 07, 2013, 04:41:57 PM
RCAF Voodoos  CF-101s 425 squadron 1976-1980 Bagotville  (I just love century fighters)

The Voodoo Years - 1976-1980 in Bagotville (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DrK53r955Y#)

Some other Voodoo pics

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/4004418683/#in/set-72157622444794237 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/4004418683/#in/set-72157622444794237) (Azores)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/4015632542/#in/set-72157622593975242 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/4015632542/#in/set-72157622593975242) (Westover AFB)


Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 08, 2013, 05:34:04 AM
If we are going for rock with reheat this low flying music is good Jim :salute: :

Wild Fly - Mirages Crazy Low Level over Water (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1agyf)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 08, 2013, 05:37:58 AM
Or this bit of AC-DC is nice

German F-4 Phantom II Crazy Low Level Flyby (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8qqz3)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 08, 2013, 05:51:28 AM
Listen up you guts this weeks Brit war bird has the USP of NO forward firing guns....................not one of our better days in the design office ............but who signed it off for production?

Once the locals realised no guns up front they had as you guts say a turkey shoot !

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8a6_1329662477 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8a6_1329662477)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 08, 2013, 07:41:58 AM
Keep on posting, Charlie, especially the British aircraft!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 08, 2013, 08:48:41 AM
Listen up you guts this weeks Brit war bird has the USP of NO forward firing guns....................not one of our better days in the design office ............but who signed it off for production?

Once the locals realised no guns up front they had as you guts say a turkey shoot !

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8a6_1329662477 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8a6_1329662477)

20 years later we did the same thing with the F-4 Phantom. The F-4 was a formidable weapon but many pilots were wishing it had a gun.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 08, 2013, 01:44:53 PM
After the TSR2  :censored: up................the no show F111..............you guys flogged good old HM Gov some cut and shut F4 which the RAF  used  to hang a Vulcan (No not that Vulcan Jim) Cannon under the belly to enable it to fly backwards through the recoil once the trigger was squeezed  :cannon:

 M161A1 Vulcan 20mm Cannon for Fighter Aircraft and Anti-Aircraft (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNkkfL6-w1o#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 08, 2013, 01:52:37 PM
Exactly...they'll be no hanging of Vulcans on my watch!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on December 08, 2013, 02:03:32 PM
This is a fun place to spend some time.....http://www.military.com/video/shock-and-awe/air-force/ (http://www.military.com/video/shock-and-awe/air-force/)   :)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 08, 2013, 02:06:00 PM
Hi Jim I thought this would be a useful bit of info to have to make all our day dreams more satisfying  :salute:


Spitfire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h89GRPFUhaM#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 08, 2013, 02:07:39 PM
This is a fun place to spend some time.....http://www.military.com/video/shock-and-awe/air-force/ (http://www.military.com/video/shock-and-awe/air-force/)   :)

try this sorry I know   :offtopic:

http://www.mod-sales.com/auction/ (http://www.mod-sales.com/auction/)

http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehicles/,37,/Armoured_Vehicles.htm (http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehicles/,37,/Armoured_Vehicles.htm)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 08, 2013, 02:10:16 PM
Exactly...they'll be no hanging of Vulcans on my watch!

 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on December 08, 2013, 02:19:19 PM
try this sorry I know   :offtopic:

http://www.mod-sales.com/auction/ (http://www.mod-sales.com/auction/)

http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehicles/,37,/Armoured_Vehicles.htm (http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehicles/,37,/Armoured_Vehicles.htm)
LOL   :)

 Auction
Product ID: 61046
Current Bid:£110.00 
(Reserve not met)
Highest bidder:tinkerbell
Number of bids:1
End Date:15.12.13 20:10.00 pm 
Current Date:08.12.13 21:14.29 pm 

You are bidding on Direct from the UK Ministry Of Defence for 22 x Lucas Ignition Coil Part suitable for all a wide variety of V8 carb petrol engines Part Number RTC5628. They are direct from reserve stores and are the last to be released. There are no MORE!.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 08, 2013, 02:27:21 PM
LOL   :)

 Auction
Product ID: 61046
Current Bid:£110.00 
(Reserve not met)
Highest bidder:tinkerbell
Number of bids:1
End Date:15.12.13 20:10.00 pm 
Current Date:08.12.13 21:14.29 pm 





You are bidding on Direct from the UK Ministry Of Defence for 22 x Lucas Ignition Coil Part suitable for all a wide variety of V8 carb petrol engines Part Number RTC5628. They are direct from reserve stores and are the last to be released. There are no MORE!.


I thought you good old boys would go for the armoured people carriers  :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on December 08, 2013, 02:29:05 PM
You can never pass on the Prince of Darkness.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 08, 2013, 02:57:43 PM
LOL   :)

 Auction
Product ID: 61046
Current Bid:£110.00 
(Reserve not met)
Highest bidder:tinkerbell
Number of bids:1
End Date:15.12.13 20:10.00 pm 
Current Date:08.12.13 21:14.29 pm 

You are bidding on Direct from the UK Ministry Of Defence for 22 x Lucas Ignition Coil Part suitable for all a wide variety of V8 carb petrol engines Part Number RTC5628. They are direct from reserve stores and are the last to be released. There are no MORE!.

What's the point?   It's already broken.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 09, 2013, 06:50:41 AM
C-54, my dad was a crew chief for these at Upper Heyford.

C-54 Skymaster (1956) USAF Douglas DC-4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ctuj5zdRDE#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 09, 2013, 07:27:22 AM
And speaking of RAF Upper Heyford....I found this good news.  The concrete aircraft hangers are being re-purposed.  I'd rather see that than the alternative...demolished and turned into housing or cow pastures.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-23950291 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-23950291)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 09, 2013, 08:50:09 AM
C-54, my dad was a crew chief for these at Upper Heyford.

C-54 Skymaster (1956) USAF Douglas DC-4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ctuj5zdRDE#ws)

I like those old piston powered monsters. Colorado Springs has a restaurant built from a KC-97. You can dine inside the airplane. And go up into the cockpit and play with the controls while you wait for your food. Er, I mean KIDS can go up into the cockpit. ;D

http://theairplanerestaurant.com/index.htm (http://theairplanerestaurant.com/index.htm)

(http://theairplanerestaurant.com/assets/pix/plane.jpg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 09, 2013, 12:30:38 PM
Dad was a crew chief on the KC-97 out of Lincoln AFB...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gnuse on December 10, 2013, 10:16:50 AM
I love most airplanes, I LOVE both of mine a LOT............(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/gnuse/DSC_2092.jpg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 10, 2013, 10:48:59 AM
I love most airplanes, I LOVE both of mine a LOT............(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/gnuse/DSC_2092.jpg)

You have an RV and a T-6? Awesome!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 10, 2013, 11:17:03 AM
You have an RV and a T-6? Awesome!

 :hail: :hail: :hail: :chugbeer: :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 10, 2013, 04:00:05 PM
How to land at sea

de Havilland Sea Vampire Flexible Deck Landing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Lu6LEQ0zo#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 10, 2013, 06:45:10 PM
That's not a landing.  It's a controlled crash.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 11, 2013, 12:24:16 AM
That's not a landing.  It's a controlled crash.
I thought that any landing that you can walk away from is a good landing.

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :battle: :battle: :chugbeer: :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on December 11, 2013, 01:43:16 AM
Quote from: VirginiaJim on Yesterday at 06:45:10 pm

    That's not a landing.  It's a controlled crash.

Quote from: VirginiaJim on November 22, 2013, 08:10:43 am

    I thought that any landing that you can walk away from is a good landing.


 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :battle: :battle: :chugbeer: :chugbeer:

This reminds me of a  Will Smith interview for Independence Day.  Of his character, he said something to the effect of:
"He crashes everything he flies, and is still considered to be a great pilot!".
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gnuse on December 12, 2013, 09:17:09 AM
No rock throwing, but I've just heard this:

Navy pilots don't do landings, they arrive.

"Squat to pee, flare to land"  ::)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 18, 2013, 04:07:38 PM
Fly in to air show

The Awesome Glide Slope Aircraft Viewing Spot " RAF Waddington " (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGH7TcsXzTg#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 18, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
Well, that Vulcan was worth waiting for, eh?  Excellent!  What really would have been nice would be to see a '52 coming in to land, all camo'd  up and such...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 18, 2013, 04:33:26 PM
I was looking for a '52 coming in like the Vulcan and came across this...  Amazing flying...

B-52 Stratofortress Landing Without Tail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjayDit2bHw#)

http://www.talkingproud.us/Military/B52%20No%20Tail/B52NoTail.html (http://www.talkingproud.us/Military/B52%20No%20Tail/B52NoTail.html)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 19, 2013, 01:24:47 AM
What's the story behind that steady flying ?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 19, 2013, 04:07:23 AM
One need only click on the link below the video, grasshopper and all your questions will be answered.

This particular aircraft is still in the active inventory at Barksdale.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 19, 2013, 01:56:00 PM
Vertical stabilizers are so overrated... unless of course your in a tail dragger  ;D
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 19, 2013, 04:00:14 PM
RIP.... :'(

 The last B-52G marked for destruction under New START is slated for
 execution today at Davis-Monthan AFB, Ariz. While the Air Force currently
 operates the B-52H, retired B-52Gs stored at the boneyard still counted
 against the deployed nuclear delivery platforms allowed under treaty limits.
 "With the elimination of [serial number] 58-0224, 39 B-52Gs will have been
 eliminated as part of U.S. reductions in order to meet the treaty's central
 limits by Feb. 5, 2018," according to a 309th Aerospace Maintenance and
 Regeneration Group release. The aircraft was initially delivered to the Air
 Force Flight Test Center at Edwards AFB, Calif., from Boeing's plant in
 Wichita, Kan., in January 1960. The bomber spent much of its career at
 Loring AFB, Maine and flew strike missions from Guam during operations Arc
 Light and Linebacker II over Vietnam, according to USAF's Historical
 Research Center. A total of 97 B-52Gs "surgically cut" under both the START
 and New START agreements remain in storage at Davis-Monthan per 309th AMARG
 spokeswoman Teresa Pittman. An additional 13 newer B-52Hs also are kept in
 storage intact, she added.
 
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 19, 2013, 06:17:18 PM
 :)

Farnborough Airshow - 1959 (in colour) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1DCyJxHfOo#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 20, 2013, 10:46:32 PM
Wooden Wonder Time  :salute:

Hope this helps you guys   ;D


RAF Supermarine Spitfires escorting De Havilland Mosquito bombers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bdoWZbvXps#)

Flying The Mozzie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S5w2TsKKQo#ws)

Battle Stations - British Mosquito Bomber (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LatqgyHvAt4#)

Hamilton Airshow 2013 - Merlin Flight (Mosquito, Lancaster, Spitfire, and Hurricane Formation) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1S90kGfLXY#ws)

Flying DH Mosquito KA114. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGfQQWOsoB8#ws)

DeHavilland Mosquito gun camera film - excellent! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmY99snA_po#ws)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 20, 2013, 10:54:41 PM
One need only click on the link below the video, grasshopper and all your questions will be answered.

This particular aircraft is still in the active inventory at Barksdale.

 :doh: :chugbeer: :thumbs:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 21, 2013, 06:01:31 AM
The mosquito videos gave me goosebumps... :thumbs:   But then again, I'm a sentimental sod.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 21, 2013, 09:55:46 AM
The mosquito videos gave me goosebumps... :thumbs:   But then again, I'm a sentimental sod.

+1 I love the sound of a mosquito, 2 merlin's in sync. Porn for the ears.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 29, 2013, 03:13:06 PM
just a bit more merlin magic  :salute:

Lancaster on Bombing Raid in 1944 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNVwXQygoUY#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 29, 2013, 03:29:23 PM
just a bit more merlin magic  :salute:

Jack Currie The Lancaster Legend (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tH8OVAICjQ#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 29, 2013, 03:51:14 PM
More Vulcan info  :salute:

Avro Vulcan - 'Where the Big Birds Fly' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M88INs1vkw#noexternalembed-ws)

Waddington Vulcans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1lthV7ApE4#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 29, 2013, 04:03:56 PM
Don't see Mr Boeing's big old war horse howling and dancing like this bird  :salute:

Vulcan XH558 Awesome Howl Sounds. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ARSE8jEHQ#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 29, 2013, 05:04:26 PM
Oh, come on, Charlie.  The '52 is much louder.  The howl one hears with the Vulcan is probably a bearing going out somewhere.  And whilst the '52 may not dance as nimbly as the Vulcan, it's far outlived it's dance partner..... ;)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 29, 2013, 05:52:00 PM
just a bit more merlin magic  :salute:

Lancaster on Bombing Raid in 1944 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNVwXQygoUY#)

Never knew the Lanc had single pilot controls. Besides the lack of redundancy, I would guess it also makes for very long missions without any relief.
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Post by: Two Skies on December 30, 2013, 12:37:26 AM
The Vulcan has much more interesting lines for sure.  Can't get much closer to a flying wing than that, without actually being a flying wing I think...

That being said, The B-52 is a much cooler plane to watch land IMHO, especially in a crosswind... not many aircraft have 'crabbed' landing gear.

Speaking of Flying Wings...
Northrop XP-79 Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0UtZ-wGQUo#)
Northrop N9MB Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60CgYmNb2a8#)

Also, this caught my eye...

F2Y Sea Dart movie (20 minutes) Youtube, complete with epic 50's soundtrack! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azGqtgjJZ6k#ws)
F2Y Sea Dart final test report (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT4H6PLNdww#)
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Post by: Charlie747 on December 30, 2013, 04:31:01 AM
just a bit more merlin magic  :salute:

Two Spitfires Spitting Fire From Their Merlin Engines. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qhSZDIng_0#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Arata on December 30, 2013, 01:31:33 PM
The B58 Hustler is my all time favorite

Four giant engines with a plane attached!

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/nwagliardo/B58/b58_hustler.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/nwagliardo/media/B58/b58_hustler.jpg.html)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/nwagliardo/B58/b58_03.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/nwagliardo/media/B58/b58_03.jpg.html)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/nwagliardo/B58/b58-5.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/nwagliardo/media/B58/b58-5.jpg.html)


To the fellow who admires the P40, I met Tex Hill out in Midland one year and was able to chat with him a bit and get an autographed print of one his Tigers.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on December 31, 2013, 04:17:49 AM
An aircraft of the golden days of SAC.
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Post by: Rhino on January 01, 2014, 09:26:27 AM

So what's up with this poka dotted B-17?

(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee29/CougarGA7/1943/1-43_zpsb5175c2e.jpg)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on January 01, 2014, 10:26:46 AM
Also sometimes called the 'Judas Goat' Judas Goat- led animals into the slaughter house and was the only one to walk out. Assembly ship- acted as a focal ship for the bomber streams then headed back to base.  There were various other paint schemes as well.  This particular ship was destroyed in a mid-air collision.  Evidently the color scheme didn't help it for visibility purposes.

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/418920-B-17-Assembly-Ships-Forums (http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/418920-B-17-Assembly-Ships-Forums)

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=97831 (http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=97831)

Aircraft: B-17G (#42-3441).
Organization: 360BS / 303BG of Molesworth, Huntingdonshire.
Pilot: Burkitt, Benjamin G.
Notes: killed in  mid air collision.
Location: Catsworth/ 2mi SW England.
Damage (0-5 increasing damage): 5

RIP, pilots and crews   :'(
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Post by: Rhino on January 01, 2014, 11:02:24 AM
Thanks Jim! Interesting, but wouldn't that also make it an irresistible target for the Luftwaffe fighters?

Never mind, read further and saw this:

"They took off and acted as the lead bomber until the formation was up and in position, then they turnt over command to the real lead bomber and went home."
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 01, 2014, 02:56:50 PM
The B58 Hustler is my all time favorite

Four giant engines with a plane attached!

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/nwagliardo/B58/b58_hustler.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/nwagliardo/media/B58/b58_hustler.jpg.html)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/nwagliardo/B58/b58_03.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/nwagliardo/media/B58/b58_03.jpg.html)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/nwagliardo/B58/b58-5.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/nwagliardo/media/B58/b58-5.jpg.html)


To the fellow who admires the P40, I met Tex Hill out in Midland one year and was able to chat with him a bit and get an autographed print of one his Tigers.

Here we go with a great looking aeroplane   :salute:

Convair B-58 Hustler Low Level Bombing Capabilities (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFPgur_cUmA#)

Convair B-58 "Hustler" MITO Tests 1963 (Restored Color) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQzwfKwVoZU#)

Convair B-58 Hustler Emergency Landing - 1961 United States Air Force Educational Documentary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZu_ONVE90Y#)

"Escape and Survive" B-58 HUSTLER escape module development (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbgeUNjsenA#)

Convair B-58 HUSTLER Operational Capabilities (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TMbxV33LnA#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 01, 2014, 03:10:29 PM
Watching that great looking jet powered flying boat got me thinking............................please remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder..................Personally this bit of kit has had a savage beating with the ugly stick.:doublepuke:  :salute:

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/saunders-roe-jet-flying-boat (http://www.britishpathe.com/video/saunders-roe-jet-flying-boat)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 01, 2014, 05:05:06 PM
Looks like a puffer fish... :rotflmao: .  I don't think there were any other jet powered flying boats were there?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 01, 2014, 05:11:07 PM
Looks like a puffer fish... :rotflmao: .  I don't think there were any other jet powered flying boats were there?

Not sure on that one Jim.  You guys did a big jet powered navel patrol / transport............think it was a Martin.......will go have a search
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Post by: Charlie747 on January 01, 2014, 05:13:04 PM
Check this out Jim

P-6M Seamaster Jet Seaplane: Faster than today's B-2s, B-52s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QowTqmxYZ1Q#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 01, 2014, 05:22:25 PM
A plane that fly's on ground effect.

Wings of Russia: Ekranoplans. On the Edge of Two Elements. (Episode 11 of 18) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr8N0Z4Cl0U#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 01, 2014, 06:14:14 PM
Well cut my suspenders and call me droopy...  Who would have believed it....  Didn't go anywhere, though..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_P6M_SeaMaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_P6M_SeaMaster)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 01, 2014, 06:46:26 PM
Well cut my suspenders and call me droopy...  Who would have believed it....  Didn't go anywhere, though..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_P6M_SeaMaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_P6M_SeaMaster)
Good looking bird though
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Post by: VirginiaJim on January 02, 2014, 04:13:54 AM
Like, totally.
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Post by: Charlie747 on January 05, 2014, 12:18:25 PM
More Merlin Magic  :salute:

Lancaster Bomber East Kirkby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_-dHAksHOk#ws)

Avro Lancaster from on board the Mosquito. HD. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM2ZQj6YjiA#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 05, 2014, 12:26:23 PM
The birth of 617 Sqn

The Dambusters Raid - Full Documentary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p4N_t3bDKY#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 05, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
Foyle's War had an episode on the testing of the bombs....  Very good documentary.
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Post by: Charlie747 on January 05, 2014, 04:05:43 PM
Foyle's War had an episode on the testing of the bombs....  Very good documentary.

Foyle's War is great............plus it has the lovely Honeysuckle Weeks in the cast  ;D
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Post by: VirginiaJim on January 05, 2014, 04:10:33 PM
Absolutely!
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Post by: Charlie747 on January 05, 2014, 04:15:36 PM
When watch the cockpit VT of these old war birds it brings home how exposed the crew was and how cramp a work space they had.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on January 05, 2014, 10:01:10 PM
I did enjoy the PBS Nova documentary about the bombing of the dams in WWII.
http://video.pbs.org/video/2184994583/ (http://video.pbs.org/video/2184994583/)
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Post by: ManWorkinghere on January 06, 2014, 02:50:43 PM
The B58 Hustler is my all time favorite

Four giant engines with a plane attached!

I concur !



To the fellow who admires the P40, I met Tex Hill out in Midland one year and was able to chat with him a bit and get an autographed print of one of his Tigers.

I did find Tex Hill's autobiography an interesting read because of his life after the Tigers, mainly because he stayed in the Orient to work and fly. 

http://www.warbirdforum.com/texhill.htm (http://www.warbirdforum.com/texhill.htm)

I do like those P-40's!
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Post by: Charlie747 on January 11, 2014, 01:51:13 PM
The Brits are coming  :chugbeer:

http://www.eurofighter.com/multimedia/videos (http://www.eurofighter.com/multimedia/videos)

A decade late and over budget but a beautiful bird  :salute:
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Post by: gPink on January 11, 2014, 02:01:40 PM
Hey Charlie, you all really going to fight those Euros again?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 11, 2014, 02:27:44 PM
Hey Charlie, you all really going to fight those Euros again?

Hell No.........we're just glad we've managed euro-peace as long as we have.................the fighting is now all economic and fiscal these days. :chugbeer:
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Post by: VirginiaJim on January 11, 2014, 03:22:16 PM
Looks a bit smallish to me, Charlie.  However, I've put the kettle on and if any of them should stray into our airspace, I'll be ready. ;D
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Post by: Charlie747 on January 11, 2014, 04:09:58 PM
Looks a bit smallish to me, Charlie.  However, I've put the kettle on and if any of them should stray into our airspace, I'll be ready. ;D

MMMmmmmmmmmmmmm I see what you mean Jim......................not SAC style.....................Not got the street presence of a B36.............................Got a lot of hard points and a trick skid lid though................................They are based up the road and play winding matches overhead

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Post by: Charlie747 on January 11, 2014, 04:12:22 PM
I've put the kettle on

does this mean you've got some PG Tips to go with that for a good brew and cuppa Jim?
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Post by: VirginiaJim on January 11, 2014, 04:51:40 PM
I'm sure it's not proper English tea, but it does do in a pinch.

Where are they based?
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Post by: Charlie747 on January 11, 2014, 11:56:07 PM
I'm sure it's not proper English tea, but it does do in a pinch.

Where are they based?

http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafconingsby/ (http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafconingsby/)

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&q=raf+coningsby&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=raf+coningsby&cid=8306319358794527603&ei=lD7SUuLYH8LwhQfh6oCwBw&ved=0CKYBEPwS (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&q=raf+coningsby&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=raf+coningsby&cid=8306319358794527603&ei=lD7SUuLYH8LwhQfh6oCwBw&ved=0CKYBEPwS)

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Post by: Charlie747 on January 12, 2014, 03:09:23 PM
The Harriers finest hour

Greatest Mysteries of War: The Falklands Islands (1982) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPxZiZVRBhE#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 12, 2014, 03:53:46 PM
Of course you know that this will interrupt my music listening and route creation activities..
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 12, 2014, 03:59:48 PM
Of course you know that this will interrupt my music listening and route creation activities..

 :hail: O wise and powerful master .............I only did it cause you did not play 10cc / Rubber Bullets or Sweet / Ballroom Blitz

 :rotflmao:  :chugbeer:

The BBC doing what it does best
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Post by: VirginiaJim on January 12, 2014, 04:14:33 PM
You got that right!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 12, 2014, 05:03:20 PM
And they (Argentina) thought that the British wouldn't respond to this?  They're quite lucky that the British didn't go inland and attack them directly.  I can't watch this video and drink.  It just angers me to no end.  They're lucky they weren't nuked.  That's the LeMay in me speaking of course.

I can remember when I heard the Royal Ghurkas were coming that I thought...well they're (Argentinians) in for it now....and so they were.   Goodness, I'm tearing up now thinking about it.  I'm just so sentimental about such things.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 17, 2014, 02:05:07 PM
Hawker Sea Fury

Hawker Sea Fury - Mistral Warbirds - Duxford 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7amEK4TGNW4#)

Military Industry_ World War II Fighters_ Hawker Sea Fury (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzorTDwQUeU#)

Hawker Sea Fury in the rain at RNAS Yeovilton (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skN1E9ES6SE#ws)

Hawker sea fury (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q6dW5bJV7w#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 18, 2014, 12:21:40 PM
Berlin airlift and the B-36

AIR FORCE STORY, THE -- COLD WAR, 1948-1950 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEVcnhkDQXc#)

My dad was a crew chief on the C-54 Command Aircraft (Upper Heyford) and the RB-36 (Ellsworth AFB).  There is also a reference to Westover AFB (transport base at the time), soon to become home for the 99th BW and the largest SAC base in the world.
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Post by: Charlie747 on January 18, 2014, 09:34:58 PM
 :goodpost:
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Post by: VirginiaJim on January 30, 2014, 12:19:29 PM
Passed under a couple of these in Fredericksburg and King George today.

Boeing Vertol Ch-46 Sea Knight Helicopter landing at Sporty's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI7UOFdBur0#ws)
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Post by: Rhino on January 30, 2014, 04:00:39 PM
Passed under a couple of these in Fredericksburg and King George today.

Boeing Vertol Ch-46 Sea Knight Helicopter landing at Sporty's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI7UOFdBur0#ws)

Cool! I've bought a lot of stuff at Sporty's over the years. I've always wanted to fly in there.
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Post by: Charlie747 on January 31, 2014, 09:23:31 AM
A beautiful bird that deserved to be mass produced  :)

XB-70 Valkyrie - The Mach 3 bomber (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wsPLthWrr8#)

Discovery Channel Wings North American Xb 70 Valkyrie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd0mSLv7zoA#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on January 31, 2014, 09:25:57 AM
I love the Valkyrie! Both the airplane and the motorcycle.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 31, 2014, 09:30:31 AM
I love the Valkyrie! Both the airplane and the motorcycle.

 :thumbs: :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 31, 2014, 11:43:45 AM
There's an XB-70 at the Air Force Museum in Dayton.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on January 31, 2014, 11:46:29 AM
There's an XB-70 at the Air Force Museum in Dayton.

Isn't that the only one in the world? I think they only built 2. One was destroyed in a tragic midair accident and the other resides at the AF Museum.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 31, 2014, 01:52:31 PM
Pretty sure it is.  The museum is building another hanger and they'll be moving all those aircraft into it.  Should be more accessible, then.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on January 31, 2014, 02:24:58 PM
Northrop XST...

http://aviationintel.com/northrop-xst-loser-become-f-117-nighthawk/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=northrop-xst-loser-become-f-117-nighthawk (http://aviationintel.com/northrop-xst-loser-become-f-117-nighthawk/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=northrop-xst-loser-become-f-117-nighthawk)

http://www.f-117a.com/XST.html (http://www.f-117a.com/XST.html)
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Post by: Bergmen on January 31, 2014, 04:34:44 PM
Isn't that the only one in the world? I think they only built 2. One was destroyed in a tragic midair accident and the other resides at the AF Museum.

Yes the one that survives is the first proto. The second, much improved prototype crashed when Joe Walker in an F-104 got pulled across the vertical stabilizers of the XB-70 when he got caught in the right wing tip vortex (flying formation too close and in the wrong spot).

Dan
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Post by: Charlie747 on January 31, 2014, 05:16:04 PM
Yes the one that survives is the first proto. The second, much improved prototype crashed when Joe Walker in an F-104 got pulled across the vertical stabilizers of the XB-70 when he got caught in the right wing tip vortex (flying formation too close and in the wrong spot).

Dan

XB-70 Valkyrie Mid-air collision June 8, 1966 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCORwUxlNQo#)
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Post by: Pokey on January 31, 2014, 07:24:39 PM
One of my favorites.....C-17 Globemaster III!


https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqIR2WuxSU00A1Ef7w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTBzZWQ1aGR0BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMTI-?p=c-17+globemaster&vid=b6d13bfebcdf3f37eeef4827464c31ed&l=9%3A29&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DV.4874162040932426%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DBUhdvXQ1EP8&tit=Boeing+C-17+Globemaster+III+Display+HD+1080p&c=10&sigr=11ac1te1c&sigt=11c4ji6vv&pstcat=news&age=0&fr=yfp-t-901-s&tt=b
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Conrad on February 01, 2014, 05:21:40 AM
Beer delivery drone.

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140131125946-beer-delivery-drone-story-top.jpg)
It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a case of beer!
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Post by: Rhino on February 01, 2014, 09:26:17 AM
Beer delivery drone.

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140131125946-beer-delivery-drone-story-top.jpg)
It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a case of beer!

I need one of those with the range capability to deliver to a camp in the middle of nowhere.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Bergmen on February 01, 2014, 10:40:06 AM
This is off topic (mods nuke it if you want) but I had to share:

(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u580/Bergmen/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/Misc/TonyLeVierSignature_zps25689efb.jpg) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/Bergmen/media/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/Misc/TonyLeVierSignature_zps25689efb.jpg.html)

Dan
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Post by: VirginiaJim on February 01, 2014, 01:44:18 PM
No, it's actually quite wonderful.  Gave me goosebumps.  Carry on sir!  :salute:   And it's not off topic.  It's aviation related and that's good enough for me.
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Post by: Charlie747 on February 01, 2014, 04:39:00 PM
Beer delivery drone.

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140131125946-beer-delivery-drone-story-top.jpg)
It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a case of beer!

 :chugbeer: :chugbeer: :chugbeer: :cool:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 02, 2014, 08:21:05 AM
Avro Arrow...

Avro arrow cheaper and better than F-35 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S74zf0YZX20#ws)


Avro Canada CF-105 "Arrow" - Mach 2+ Potential (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8s4f4Mecn8#ws)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 02, 2014, 08:25:47 AM
B-36 Broken Arrow (British Columbia)

B-36 Lost Nuke in British Columbia, Broken Arrow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piDEE80nfgo#ws)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on February 02, 2014, 09:36:01 AM
This is off topic (mods nuke it if you want) but I had to share:

(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u580/Bergmen/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/Misc/TonyLeVierSignature_zps25689efb.jpg) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/Bergmen/media/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/Misc/TonyLeVierSignature_zps25689efb.jpg.html)

Dan

I think it is right on topic.  :goodpost:
And besides, Tony LaVier was partially famous with the P38. He was the test pilot and later raced in one. And the P-38 is one of my favorite aircraft.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on February 02, 2014, 03:04:22 PM
Some most excellent B-58 photos...

http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=272482 (http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=272482)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on February 06, 2014, 05:03:40 AM
Most excellent information on the B-52

B-52 Stratofortress (http://www.scribd.com/doc/167927348/B-52-Stratofortress#)
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Post by: Charlie747 on February 06, 2014, 02:45:40 PM
Most excellent information on the B-52

B-52 Stratofortress (http://www.scribd.com/doc/167927348/B-52-Stratofortress#)

A friend of mine is the company secretary of Key Publishing Jim. Produced 10 miles down the road in Stamford
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: marcusorelius on February 08, 2014, 08:19:45 PM
A few years back, some friends & I rode to Valle Az for the war-birds fly in air-show. I was able to fly on a 1929 ford tri-motor. In the pre-flight talk the guy said they go to home-depot to get parts!

Ford 1929 tri motor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4EjqLaVO_Q#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on February 22, 2014, 01:52:50 PM
Think I'll avoid speeding tickets with one of these

MT 03 Flight Demo in Australia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0BBdbYx6zI#)

Autogyro MT-03 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7KKk_fLDNs#ws)

Circuits gyrocopter end of day, MT-03 Autogyro, Crosland moor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpB9yFc7qdg#ws)

MT-03 Autogyro Rufforth in the snow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUeKlfTelAI#ws)
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Post by: gPink on February 22, 2014, 02:22:13 PM
Charlie?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on February 22, 2014, 02:25:09 PM
Charlie?

Yummy Mummy.................gPink..............Sir  :salute: You have my full attention Sir :thumbs:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on February 22, 2014, 02:43:11 PM
I've got this thing for post apocalytic women.....

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Post by: VirginiaJim on February 22, 2014, 07:56:10 PM
Believe it or not, this is aircraft related...

The T-1151 "Dog Doo" transmitter was used as a beacon.  It was used to transmit signals to either agents or recon aircraft.  It was quite 'life like'....

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=19124 (http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=19124)

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-dog-poop-is-actually-a-secret-us-air-force-rescue-1504985932 (http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-dog-poop-is-actually-a-secret-us-air-force-rescue-1504985932)

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/true-t-1151-dog-doo-transmitter.html (http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/true-t-1151-dog-doo-transmitter.html)

As a 58 year old with the mind of a 12 year old, I could not in good conscious, not pass this information along to the membership...   :rotflmao: :salute:
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Post by: gPink on February 23, 2014, 06:17:52 AM
Information we couldn't live without. Deserves to immortalized in ths thread.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on February 23, 2014, 06:44:00 AM
Quite!

Can you imagine the development stage this went through and the required check offs?  I'm  :rotflmao: as I contemplate what happened behind the scenes.  I wonder if they added a fake smell to it?
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Post by: gPink on February 23, 2014, 06:51:22 AM
Here is the secret factory that was making the above mentioned rescue device.
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Post by: capt chaos on February 23, 2014, 08:53:19 AM
Parked on my local airfield where it was built http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-17905904 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-17905904)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on February 23, 2014, 09:28:56 AM
The longer they wait, the more costly it will be to restore it....
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Post by: capt chaos on February 23, 2014, 02:39:02 PM
The longer they wait, the more costly it will be to restore it....

Golf Alpha Echo in Barbado's is in the best condition of the British Airways a/c http://www.saveconcordegroup.co.uk/return-to-flight-rtf/ (http://www.saveconcordegroup.co.uk/return-to-flight-rtf/)

http://www.jetartaviation.co.uk/what-we-do/aircraft/ (http://www.jetartaviation.co.uk/what-we-do/aircraft/)
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Post by: twowheeladdict on February 23, 2014, 09:49:16 PM
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1275/13548833/24439480/408845451.jpg)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on February 28, 2014, 05:05:27 AM
Interesting B-1B landing at Edwards...captions needed, please.

Crash Landings 3: Lakebed B-1B (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmZC5uaw69s#)

"I thought you put the front landing gear down!"
The ever popular "This is going to leave a mark."
"A bit of paint and polish and she'll be as good as new."
"Please, dear God, let us stop before the grinding hits the cockpit."
"No crew were injured in the making of this film."

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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 03, 2014, 11:35:40 AM
Air marksmanship F-86 and B-57

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/air-marksmanship-aka-u-s-air-force-demonstrates/query/air+force+marksmanship (http://www.britishpathe.com/video/air-marksmanship-aka-u-s-air-force-demonstrates/query/air+force+marksmanship)
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Post by: tweeter55 on March 03, 2014, 11:55:35 AM
captions needed, please.

OOPS!
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 03, 2014, 12:08:45 PM
That was a big OOPS...
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Post by: tweeter55 on March 03, 2014, 02:01:51 PM
My Bad :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Post by: Pilgrim on March 03, 2014, 04:07:28 PM
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1275/13548833/24439480/408845451.jpg)

Good Navy footage - http://www.youtube.com/embed/WC8U5_4lo2c?feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/embed/WC8U5_4lo2c?feature=player_embedded)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 06, 2014, 03:56:28 PM
Would you believe a Kawasaki in the 50s having 72hp, could reach speeds of 220mph, is red, and have a range of 250 miles?  And yes, this is in the right thread....and no it's not the new C14 for 2015.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Kawasaki+KAQ-1&client=firefox-a&hs=jO3&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=0PoYU-eRA7OMyAG_6YDQDQ&ved=0CDsQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=890 (https://www.google.com/search?q=Kawasaki+KAQ-1&client=firefox-a&hs=jO3&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=0PoYU-eRA7OMyAG_6YDQDQ&ved=0CDsQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=890)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 12, 2014, 04:02:57 AM
Air Force slang...

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Air_Force_Slang (http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Air_Force_Slang)
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Post by: Two Skies on March 17, 2014, 04:08:04 PM
So, the next time you are talking to your congressman or whatever, and they ask you if/why we still need the A-10...

Tell them because Russia still has tanks, and isn't afraid to use them!

Such a capable airframe, that A-10!

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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 05, 2014, 06:52:17 AM
Vietnam Thud story...

http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2014/April%202014/0414north.aspx (http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2014/April%202014/0414north.aspx)


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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 05, 2014, 02:32:31 PM
An illustrated guide to the atomic bombs....

http://www.alternatewars.com/Bomb_Loading/Bomb_Guide.htm (http://www.alternatewars.com/Bomb_Loading/Bomb_Guide.htm)
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Post by: Murph on April 05, 2014, 03:27:00 PM


Little Cessnas!

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Post by: Charlie747 on April 05, 2014, 06:06:40 PM
BAC TSR2: The Ultimate Royal Air Force Dream Machine... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTM4ve3vZYY#)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 06, 2014, 06:27:08 AM
Where have you been you old sod?

Well that certainly brought   :'( to my eyes and I wasn't even drinking.  This is what happens when your govt decides it no longer wants to be a super power.   It's happening to us now.

I  :salute: the RAF and the British aircraft industry, even though they designed some of the most odd looking flyable aircraft I've ever seen outside of the Soviet Union.
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Post by: gPink on April 06, 2014, 07:24:03 AM
Where have you been you old sod?

Well that certainly brought   :'( to my eyes and I wasn't even drinking.  This is what happens when your govt decides it no longer wants to be a super power.   It's happening to us now.

I  :salute: the RAF and the British aircraft industry, even though they designed some of the most odd looking flyable aircraft I've ever seen outside of the Soviet Union.

we are doomed
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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 06, 2014, 07:45:39 AM
Totally agree at this point.  I feel like the Holy Roman Empire and the barbarians are at the gate.   Everyone in power thinks that smart weapons are the key, unfortunately they don't have the shock and awe value of a good carpet bombing or H-bomb from a B-52.

B-52 Dropping Lots & Lots of Bombs - Carpet Bombing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGLgZ8htLI4#)

"B 52" Dropping "H Bomb" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulyyqURFMRw#)

I prefer the 'tall tail' B-52s as I grew up with them.  Yes, I know they were prone to lose their (tails) on occasion, but the lines were much cleaner.

Where is General LeMay when you need him?

Curtis Lemay Legends of Airpower (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grhf7d-29Ps#)

For those unaware as I was about General and Mrs. LeMay's legacy, they have a foundation that assists officer and NCO widows..

http://www.lemay-foundation.org/ (http://www.lemay-foundation.org/)

Memories of Jane LeMay Lodge - The LeMay's only daughter.... (fascinating)

http://www.nebraskastudies.org/0900/stories/0901_0122_01.html (http://www.nebraskastudies.org/0900/stories/0901_0122_01.html)

You know, I actually tear up reading about LeMay, probably one of the best AF generals we ever had.  The Russians were totally afraid of him.  The media made him out to be a loose cannon which was totally the opposite of what he really was, but it worked to our advantage.  I lived in that era on USAF SAC bases.  I know what it was like and the people of today just don't have a clue.
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Post by: gPink on April 06, 2014, 08:32:04 AM
 :) Nothing like a good carpet bombing to get your Sunday morning started.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 06, 2014, 09:10:55 AM
It always worked for me...
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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 06, 2014, 09:22:32 AM
Back in the mid-60's at Westover AFB, a certain number of B-52's were constantly on the ready and the rumble could be heard from all over the base.  I really miss that music.
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Post by: Charlie747 on April 06, 2014, 03:49:14 PM
Yep the Old Sod is back........................................as you good old boys are suffering SAC withdrawal please find attached a film of go codes / fail safes / wing attack plan R  :chugbeer:

Enjoy ........................................

 http://blip.tv/moviearchives/dr-strangelove-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb-5462653 (http://blip.tv/moviearchives/dr-strangelove-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb-5462653)
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Post by: gPink on April 06, 2014, 04:23:27 PM
A most excellant movie.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 06, 2014, 05:31:39 PM
The sad thing is that our seriousness over our ballistic missiles and bomber deterrent is sadly lacking.  They better be glad I'm not in charge.   Many careers would be over and I just might be inclined to charge some of those idiots with treason.  I should have stayed in the AF.
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Post by: gPink on April 06, 2014, 05:40:15 PM
Some very bad manners being displayed in the missile silos.
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Post by: Charlie747 on April 06, 2014, 06:26:16 PM
A most excellant movie.

Thank you  :)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 06, 2014, 06:35:55 PM
Yes, we do thank you, although I do feel a bit dizzy going back and forth.  I feel like a Time Lord, especially today.
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Post by: Two Skies on April 14, 2014, 08:38:52 PM
Go Congress!

Defense News.com: A-10 Proponents Seek Budget Offset to Keep Attack Planes Funded, Flying (http://www.defensenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2014304100025)
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Post by: Charlie747 on April 15, 2014, 12:09:14 PM
Go Congress!

Defense News.com: A-10 Proponents Seek Budget Offset to Keep Attack Planes Funded, Flying (http://www.defensenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2014304100025)

Now that just makes common sense.................................unlike our lot of (please insert verb as ness)
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Post by: Charlie747 on April 20, 2014, 02:17:43 PM
RAF Waddington plane spotters get Typhoon shock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Dg0LxgJH4#ws)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 20, 2014, 06:51:36 PM
No matter what the official RAF stance is.....it did come in a bit low.  I think the pilot miscalculated or someone wanted the spectators scattered.
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Post by: Rhino on April 20, 2014, 08:18:05 PM
Love it! That's why the people are there, to see that kind of thing. As a kid in NJ, I used to lay down at the end of a small grass strip and watch the planes take off or land right over me. One guy had a T6 that could barely get in and out of that strip and the sight and sound of that going right over me was awesome. But I was dumb kid. 50 some years later I guess I'm still a dumb kid.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 21, 2014, 05:00:34 AM
My dad used to take us down to the end of one of the active runways at Westover AFB (99th BW) and watch/listen to the B-52s land...
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Post by: Two Skies on April 21, 2014, 10:42:15 AM
I've always been rather impressed with some aspects of the B-52.  The ability to crab the landing gear being one of them.  The footage of B-52's landing in crosswinds is always a treat to watch.  Other aircraft can land at 'angles' too, but it isn't the same once the wheels kiss the pavement.

Also, while I'm sure they could have went with 4 engines, they decided on 8.  There was talk fairly recently of swapping out/refitting the 8 engines with 4 larger, more powerful/efficient ones, but it never really went anywhere (not cost effective enough or some such). 

There has been talk of extending the B-52 service life into the 2040's!

Several test aircraft have been carried into the sky in the bellies of B-52s.

Finally, the B-52H's are the only ones still in service, and they were built in 1960-62.  All of the earlier models are now retired apparently, so that makes the current B-52 fleet about 52-54 years old currently.  The last B-52(H) was completed on October 26th, 1962.  So the entire B-52 fleet is older than I am...
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Post by: Pilgrim on April 29, 2014, 07:01:28 PM
Bad news for Westover AFB

http://www.necn.com/04/28/14/Westover-Air-Force-Base-cutting-300-jobs/landing.html?blockID=865697&feedID=11106 (http://www.necn.com/04/28/14/Westover-Air-Force-Base-cutting-300-jobs/landing.html?blockID=865697&feedID=11106)

CHICOPEE, Mass. (AP) - Westover Air Reserve Base will lose half its C-5 cargo planes and more than 300 jobs as a result of military budget cuts, base officials announced Monday.
   
Eight of the 439th Airlift Wing's 16 military transport aircraft will move to Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland in Texas beginning next year, they said.
   
Air Force officials blamed Pentagon budget cuts for the changes.
   
The job cuts include the expected loss of 59 full-time enlisted personnel and 275 reservists, although final numbers have yet to be determined, said Brig. Gen. Steven Vautrain, commander of the 439th at Westover.
   
The aircraft will be moved from Westover starting in March 2015 as part of an upgrade of the C-5 fleet, with the personnel reductions beginning in October 2015, Vautrain said.
   
Eight of the refurbished aircraft will operate out of the Texas base, and eight new models will remain at Westover.
   
Vautrain said the changes would not be the end of the air wing or the base.
   
"We'll remain strong. It's a wonderful base, we have great support from the community and we plan on being here for the long haul," he added.
   
The job cuts will result in hardship for members of the base, but efforts will be made to place full-time employees into other positions, Vautrain said. Finding positions within the base for reservists will be more challenging, he said, but some may choose to retire and others could find positions at other bases, including Bradley Air National Guard Base in Connecticut and the Otis Air National Guard base on Cape Cod.
   
The cuts are part of an effort to slash $487 billion from the nation's defense budget over eight years. The winding down of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and automatic federal budget cuts hastened the changes at Westover, Vautrain said.
   
In a statement, U.S. Sen. Edward Markey said he was "troubled" by Monday's announcement and planned to work with Gov. Deval Patrick and other members of the state's congressional delegation to see if the decision can be changed.
   
"Westover is a critical asset for western Massachusetts and the local Chicopee economy," Markey said.
   
The C-5 fleet will be upgraded with new engines during the changeover, base officials said. The C-5 can carry a payload of up to 270,000 pounds a distance of up to 6,000 miles, according to the base's website.
   
The aircraft has been critical in recent U.S. military operations, flying nearly 75,000 hours and transporting more than 200,000 tons of cargo between Sept. 11, 2001, and Dec. 31, 2012.
   
Westover is located on 2,511 acres, making it the nation's largest reserve base by land mass.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 29, 2014, 08:04:09 PM
 :'(   I have a personal interest in this base...
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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 30, 2014, 01:54:33 PM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=239_1345596173 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=239_1345596173)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ce_1363795174 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ce_1363795174)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 01, 2014, 01:13:12 PM
A-10 coloring book...

http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_053a.html (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_053a.html)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 03, 2014, 07:36:37 AM
Wow, just wow!  And it's a VA company!  :thumbs: :salute:

http://aviationweek.com/business-aviation/new-life-former-us-army-u-21s (http://aviationweek.com/business-aviation/new-life-former-us-army-u-21s)
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Post by: Charlie747 on May 06, 2014, 05:22:23 AM
Went for an afternoon bimble yesterday as we had a bank holiday over in England

Allow me to introduce my wife Cheryl  / cake and coffee / Just Jane

Only had phone so poor pic and sound :'(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-79VWD0ohU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-79VWD0ohU)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZgFBdz7zkI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZgFBdz7zkI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca9uANgDrLI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca9uANgDrLI)
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Post by: Locksmith on May 06, 2014, 10:41:57 PM
Beautiful Lancaster. One of only two left flying I believe.

Went for an afternoon bimble yesterday as we had a bank holiday over in England

Allow me to introduce my wife Cheryl  / cake and coffee / Just Jane

Only had phone so poor pic and sound :'(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-79VWD0ohU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-79VWD0ohU)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZgFBdz7zkI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZgFBdz7zkI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca9uANgDrLI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca9uANgDrLI)
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Post by: Charlie747 on May 07, 2014, 12:14:45 AM
Beautiful Lancaster. One of only two left flying I believe.

You are correct when you say only 2 flying in the world..............one is in Canada and will be joining the RAF one this summer so we should see a 2 ship formation flying.  This one  is privately owned and is based approx. 10 miles up the road from the RAF one........It does not fly........but could fly very soon,

http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/news/lancaster-nx611-return-to-flight/?page=1 (http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/news/lancaster-nx611-return-to-flight/?page=1)

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Post by: wipfel on May 07, 2014, 06:34:58 AM
I've been browsing this site for past couple of weeks.  Seems to be mostly aircraft stories, so I figured you guys might find it interesting.

http://ww2today.com/ (http://ww2today.com/)
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Post by: Charlie747 on May 07, 2014, 12:50:05 PM
I've been browsing this site for past couple of weeks.  Seems to be mostly aircraft stories, so I figured you guys might find it interesting.

http://ww2today.com/ (http://ww2today.com/)

Thanks that's good reading  :)
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Post by: Charlie747 on May 07, 2014, 01:05:49 PM
How to get it wrong..............Big Time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV1eUeo27tc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV1eUeo27tc)
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Post by: Charlie747 on May 07, 2014, 01:19:33 PM
Vertical take-off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qPWguMKGiI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qPWguMKGiI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT6CM4vU-GA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT6CM4vU-GA)

Good old B36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHSmGOvIO7M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHSmGOvIO7M)
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Post by: Rhino on May 08, 2014, 10:01:28 AM
I wonder if the pogo stick ever made a flight transitioning to horizontal and back to vertical.
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Post by: Locksmith on May 08, 2014, 01:36:45 PM
There is one in Alberta that is in run-up condition now. It is in a museum. I don't think they plan on flying it.

My wife's uncle was shot down in a lanc during WWII and is buried in a French church yard with 4 of his crew. Two survived. They are the only servicemen buried there, and he is the only canadian. The family has never been there. Maybe one day.....

You are correct when you say only 2 flying in the world..............one is in Canada and will be joining the RAF one this summer so we should see a 2 ship formation flying.  This one  is privately owned and is based approx. 10 miles up the road from the RAF one........It does not fly........but could fly very soon,

http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/news/lancaster-nx611-return-to-flight/?page=1 (http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/news/lancaster-nx611-return-to-flight/?page=1)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 09, 2014, 01:09:17 PM
On this day in USAF history:

1961 - The 379th BMW at Wurtsmith AFB, MI receives the first B-52H TN 60-001

Still in operation at Barksdale AFB LA
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 10, 2014, 09:02:53 AM
On this day in USAF history

1972:  LINEBACKER I - through 11 May, 8 TFW F-4s drop precision guided munititions on Paul Doumer Bridge in Hanoi, closing it to traffic.

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Post by: Racer Boy on May 11, 2014, 09:56:44 PM
I spent last week up in Alaska for work. It is always interesting up there if you are into planes, as there are lots of old transport planes still being used as freighters, as well as all kinds of planes with skis, floats, or tundra tires.

Lots of DC-2's, -3's, and -7's still see use. The DC-7 is the preferred freighter for getting in and out of gravel strips. Unfortunately, the supply of spare parts will run out by the end of this year, and for every hour of flying, there is twelve hours of maintenance!

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Post by: Racer Boy on May 11, 2014, 10:03:06 PM
Lynden Air Freight has two or three C-130's that they use for freighters.

Anchorage is the second busiest air freight airport in the world, as all the heavy planes (747's, DC10's and Lockheed L-1011's) refuel there on their way to/from Asia and the east coast of the US. I've seen as many as fourteen 747's parked there refueling.
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Post by: Racer Boy on May 11, 2014, 10:06:35 PM
In Fairbanks I spotted this plane junkyard full of mostly DC-7's. Notice the radial engines sitting on the ground.
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Post by: Racer Boy on May 11, 2014, 10:09:15 PM
Just a mix of interesting planes I spotted at the Anchorage airport, and Lake Hood, the busiest float plane airport in the world.
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Post by: Racer Boy on May 11, 2014, 10:11:53 PM
More interesting planes.
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Post by: Rhino on May 12, 2014, 09:47:54 AM
Gotta love that Beaver with the massive tires!
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Post by: Charlie747 on May 12, 2014, 01:35:35 PM
Gotta love that Beaver with the massive tires!

All that mass / drag.........................does it fly different ?  :popcorn:
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Post by: Rhino on May 12, 2014, 03:03:28 PM
All that mass / drag.........................does it fly different ?  :popcorn:

No doubt there is some cost in speed and payload for those tires but when you are routinely landing off airport in Alaska, I'm sure its well worth it.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 12, 2014, 04:01:08 PM
http://hushkit.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/f-100-super-sabre-a-fighter-pilots-perspective/ (http://hushkit.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/f-100-super-sabre-a-fighter-pilots-perspective/)

North American F-100 Super Sabre - Phan Rang Air Base (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RxOkFXEeaE#)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 15, 2014, 01:41:31 PM
C-141 Retirement (LAST FLIGHT) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lpbfvErfNs#)

This certainly brought a tear to my eyes...  We were airlifted from Germany to Andrews via a C-141 Medevac variant back in late '68.

RAF Sculthorpe C-141 take off (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCrZJG8Jt6E#ws)

And this was the base we initially left to go to Germany for the final evac on the C-141.  By the end of 1992, the base would be returned to the RAF and all US personnel would be gone.. :'(
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 22, 2014, 11:12:53 AM
B-52 landing at Barksdale in 2012

http://theaviationist.com/2012/10/01/landing-b52/ (http://theaviationist.com/2012/10/01/landing-b52/)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 22, 2014, 12:43:12 PM
Life and death aboard a B-17,  1944.

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/b17.htm (http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/b17.htm)
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Post by: just gone on May 22, 2014, 05:20:15 PM
What no comments of the Jet powered Waco?    :o

After 6 months and 19 pages....apparently not, however I thoroughly enjoyed the link to the Kyle Franklin Comedy Act.
I was baffled by what was supposed to be so mysterious about the Wild Waco mystery ship?

Maybe a video link will help with comments about the Jet powered Waco? Maybe not.  :-\
http://youtu.be/lyXzy8AzOxo (http://youtu.be/lyXzy8AzOxo)
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Post by: Charlie747 on May 23, 2014, 01:01:34 AM
 :goodpost: Not seen that before........................the control on the 360 and bow at the end  :thumbs:
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Post by: VirginiaJim on June 14, 2014, 06:03:10 PM
HIMAT aircraft finds home at NASA (Armstrong)

http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1113169401/nasa-armstrong-experimental-himat-aircraft-061314/#Ere9BMfhUDkDz5xo.99 (http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1113169401/nasa-armstrong-experimental-himat-aircraft-061314/#Ere9BMfhUDkDz5xo.99)

The other one is in DC at the National Air and Space Museum.


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Post by: VirginiaJim on June 16, 2014, 04:18:12 AM
Queen's Birthday fly past....

Queen's Birthday Flypast - Trooping the Colour 2014 [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vedU3GnImE#ws)
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Post by: gPink on June 27, 2014, 04:59:32 PM
just caught this on the news....http://youtu.be/UAgl1YAEpTk?t=14s (http://youtu.be/UAgl1YAEpTk?t=14s)

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Post by: VirginiaJim on June 27, 2014, 06:39:09 PM
Yeah, saw that one this morning...amazing.
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Post by: rocknrod on June 30, 2014, 08:15:09 PM
That's the USS Bataan, sister ship to my old ship the USS Essex.
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Post by: Cholla on July 01, 2014, 03:59:50 AM
Good thing it can't fly!
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Post by: SapperLdr on July 12, 2014, 12:04:39 PM
Way ahead of its time.  Awesome rotorhead design.  No swashplate.

I forgot to mention I work for Boeing.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 12, 2014, 02:45:46 PM
How's the KC-46 coming along?
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Post by: SapperLdr on July 12, 2014, 02:54:47 PM
How's the KC-46 coming along?
Good, better then the F-35   :thumbs:
The commercial guys sometime struggle with dealing with the military customer.  Different customer mindset.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 12, 2014, 03:06:39 PM
I was working with a former AF guy the last couple of days that was a crew chief on a KC-135 out of Grissom when it was an AF base...  Brought back quite a few memories for me along with those of the B-52.  You guys really make some good products.
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Post by: SapperLdr on July 12, 2014, 06:15:26 PM
12 years ago we did some work on KC-135 flight surfaces.  It was amazing to see data plates with manufacture dates from the early 1950's.  We were cleaning up internal corrosion problems.  We had to manufacture a lot of our own replacement parts. Not to many customers still flying 707s.
The KC-46 is critically needed before we have kC-135s falling out of the air.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 12, 2014, 08:28:46 PM
Can't wait til the first flight in early 2015.  I'm wondering if you guys are doing the new bomber...I'm sure there's a prototype floating around somewhere...  It would only be right if you guys did it.
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Post by: SapperLdr on July 12, 2014, 09:47:12 PM
I hope we get it also.  I will be very interested in what design comes out of it.  Sounds like you may have seen the same article I did about a prototype.  :-X
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 13, 2014, 06:25:17 AM
Yeah, I'm tied in to more than a few aircraft groups... :)   But don't worry, I'm sure the Chinese already have the plans as well by now. 
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Post by: capt chaos on July 14, 2014, 04:05:09 AM
Already in service :-)

(http://www.ainonline.com/sites/default/files/uploads/514a-main-photo-voyager_typhoon_tornado.jpg)
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Post by: Rhino on July 14, 2014, 07:09:53 AM
I though the US let a contract with Airbus for new tankers.
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Post by: capt chaos on July 14, 2014, 07:29:08 AM
No comparably competitor to this a/c either, think USA requested a brochure :-) no I don't work for them :-) A400 wings are assembled nearby in Filton.

(http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/36954/0x0/atlas.jpg)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 14, 2014, 09:31:40 AM
I though the US let a contract with Airbus for new tankers.

I don't think so.  There was some controversy over that early on and now it's with Boeing as far as I know.
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Post by: Rhino on July 14, 2014, 12:07:42 PM
I don't think so.  There was some controversy over that early on and now it's with Boeing as far as I know.

Good. You would think we would be able to build our own military aircraft. Converting a proven platform like the 767 would be ideal. After all, that's what we did with the KC-10.
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Post by: SapperLdr on July 14, 2014, 05:10:16 PM
The Italian's and Japanese are already using a version of the 767 as a tanker. The KC-46A will be am improved version.  It will have a 787 cockpit.


Here is another cool aircraft (AH6i).  This is the hot rod of the helicopter industry right now.  Serious upgrades from the original MD500.
 
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Post by: rocknrod on July 16, 2014, 05:39:09 PM
I used to hook these up on the (Cat) flight deck when I was a young hard charger.
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10534742_10154380811550174_4669692255921877261_n.jpg?oh=ada1a49ca5da4df6a72795b614ad4629&oe=5450E73E)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 16, 2014, 07:59:23 PM
I've always had a fondness for the Intruders..

Intruder A-6 Tribute (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilp1E6AUNP4#)
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Post by: Rhino on July 17, 2014, 06:40:01 AM
I have no idea how well they fly but I've always liked the A-4 Skyhawk. Relative to jets that came after they look light and small.
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Post by: rocknrod on July 17, 2014, 03:30:44 PM
I have no idea how well they fly but I've always liked the A-4 Skyhawk. Relative to jets that came after they look light and small.
They are, I forget the launch and recover weight. But we used a hand held nose steering bar on them to position them on the Cat. Couldn't do that now days. Of course the launch stroke of the cats are almost 100 feet longer than they were on the Oriskany (O-Boat) or Coral Maru.
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Post by: rocknrod on July 17, 2014, 03:33:54 PM
Ya they were tough birds. They could launch with 24 - 500lbs bombs and a belly tank.
I've always had a fondness for the Intruders..
Intruder A-6 Tribute (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilp1E6AUNP4#)
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Post by: Rhino on July 17, 2014, 04:12:37 PM
They are, I forget the launch and recover weight. But we used a hand held nose steering bar on them to position them on the Cat. Couldn't do that now days. Of course the launch stroke of the cats are almost 100 feet longer than they were on the Oriskany (O-Boat) or Coral Maru.

I've been on the Oriskany. I was 130' underwater when I did it. Under water the Mighty O looks immense! Standing on the deck at the base of the tower, even with good visibility, you cannot see the edge on the port side never mind the bow and stern. Your imagination just fills in the rest and it just seems to be an endless plane. Standing (actually floating) there I tried to imagine what it was like when it was launching and recovering aircraft. Thought about all the men that worked that deck and below deck over the years. Thank you for your service Master Chief.
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Post by: rocknrod on July 17, 2014, 10:15:46 PM
It wasn't my pleasure most of the time but thank you.
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Post by: Rhino on July 23, 2014, 01:36:49 PM
Flew a Taylorcraft BC12D for the first time last weekend. I was pleasantly surprised. I've heard some pilots put down the Taylorcraft. I owned an Aeronca 7AC Champion with a Continental O-200 100hp engine. The 65hp Taylorcraft was as fast or faster then my 100hp Champ (if you can use the word "fast" when talking about 95mph aircraft). Got off the ground easy with 2 people and a full nose tank. Lighter ailerons then the Champ. The only downside was that the Taylorcraft doesn't have very good visibility. But overall I was impressed with this little 65hp bird.

Not the one I flew, just some pic off the net.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/TaylorcraftBC12-DN9558101.JPG)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 31, 2014, 05:05:47 AM
This day in USAF History

 On this day in Air Force history --
 
1912:        Navy pilot Lt Theodore G. Ellyson launches the first airplane from a catapult on the seawall at Annapolis; it immediately crashes.
 
1952:        PROJECT HOP-A-LONG. Two MATS Sikorsky H-19 helicopters complete 1st trans-Atlantic helicopter flight, touching down five times en route.
 
1957:        The DEW Line, a distant early warning radar defense installation extending across the Canadian Arctic, becomes fully operational.
 
1970:        1st class of foreign students in the President’s Vietnamization Program completes undergraduate pilot training at Keesler AFB.
 
 
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Post by: rocknrod on July 31, 2014, 05:45:03 PM
When did they start calling the Army Air Corps the Air Force? Was it after WWII? I don't remember.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 31, 2014, 08:09:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_Air_Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_Air_Force)
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Post by: Pilgrim on August 01, 2014, 03:50:24 AM
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/Pilgrim32/Misc/F16_2_zps7b2ce11b.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pilgrim32/media/Misc/F16_2_zps7b2ce11b.jpg.html)
F-16 with RECCE pod.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 01, 2014, 04:11:05 AM
 :thumbs:
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 01, 2014, 08:31:40 AM
 On this day in Air Force history --
 
1942:        The Coast Guard’s Squadron 212 sinks the first enemy submarine, off the passes of the Mississippi.
 
1943:        Operation TIDAL WAVE. See http://www.afhso.af.mil/topics/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=17993 (http://www.afhso.af.mil/topics/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=17993) <http://afhistoricalfoundation.us5.list-manage.com/track/click?u=07d6fdac3700f01772883f7cf&id=78ccd3b483&e=3ad5431931 (http://afhistoricalfoundation.us5.list-manage.com/track/click?u=07d6fdac3700f01772883f7cf&id=78ccd3b483&e=3ad5431931)>
 
1943:       For Operation Tidal Wave five men receive the Medal of Honor: Cols Baker, Johnson, and Kane; Maj Jerstad; 2Lt Hughes.
 
1950:        The Collins-Vandenberg Agreement establishes cooperation between ADC and the Army Antiaircraft Command for air defense of the US.
 
1961:        The AFRES mobilizes five C-124 groups and more than 15,000 reservists in response to the construction of the Berlin Wall.
 
1969:        #USAF begins using broadcasts recorded by a ground radioman and rebroadcast thru airborne loudspeakers in its psyops program in SEA.
 
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Post by: SapperLdr on August 01, 2014, 08:49:31 AM
A few pics I have.
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Post by: Pilgrim on August 01, 2014, 03:52:38 PM
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/Pilgrim32/Misc/MQ-9_Reaper_zpsc298caaa.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pilgrim32/media/Misc/MQ-9_Reaper_zpsc298caaa.jpg.html)
The MQ-9 Reaper
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 01, 2014, 03:56:06 PM
While some may like these new fangled aircraft, I can certainly say that I don't.  I like large aircraft, piloted directly by human beings, that drop very large bombs and cause massive destruction...all for world peace, of course.
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Post by: rocknrod on August 01, 2014, 04:58:43 PM
Yep, thats like the new drone they put on carriers. I dont much care for em either:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/1017460_10152372088458702_2189848934740558705_n.jpg)
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Post by: gPink on August 01, 2014, 06:07:34 PM
Yep, thats like the new drone they put on carriers. I dont much care for em either:

Why not?
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 02, 2014, 05:36:00 AM
They're unmanned and don't have propellers or proper jet engines.  They remind me of Terminator.
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Post by: Racer Boy on August 03, 2014, 10:58:32 AM
It is Seafair weekend in Seattle, and I am going to ride down to Boeing Field and watch the Blue Angels take off today! There are also a bunch of other very cool aircraft there right now, so it should be a fun afternoon.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 03, 2014, 03:08:56 PM
 :thumbs:
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 04, 2014, 05:38:52 AM
 On this day in Air Force history --
 
1944:        Operation APHRODITE. 8AF launches radio-controlled B-17 drones against V-1 rocket sites in Pas de Calais, France.
 
1950:        KOREAN WAR. B-29 attacks key bridges above the 38th parallel to start FEAF “Interdiction Campaign No. 1.”
 
1955:        China releases crew of Special Ops B-29 “The Stardust 40”, captured on 13 Jan 1953 and held longer than any other POWs in Korean War.
 
1964:        North Vietnamese torpedo boats attack US destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin; triggering 1st US airstrikes against North Vietnam.
 
1982:        The first KC-135R (number 61-0293) with the new CFM-56 engines makes its first flight.
 
2007:        Phoenix Mars Lander launches. After 422 million-mile journey it lands in the arctic region of northern Mars on 25 May 2008.
 
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Post by: Rhino on August 04, 2014, 07:34:08 AM
On this day in Air Force history --
 
1944:        Operation APHRODITE. 8AF launches radio-controlled B-17 drones against V-1 rocket sites in Pas de Calais, France.
 

I'm going to have to look that one up. I didn't know about that.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 04, 2014, 08:53:08 AM
Neither did I.  Looking forward to your report.
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Post by: Rhino on August 04, 2014, 10:35:32 AM
Excellent summary of operation Aphrodite here: http://fly.historicwings.com/2012/08/operation-aphrodite/ (http://fly.historicwings.com/2012/08/operation-aphrodite/)

Incidentally one of the missions of this operation was the one that Joseph Kennedy was killed.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 04, 2014, 11:19:07 AM
 :thumbs:
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 05, 2014, 05:34:11 AM
 On this day in Air Force history --
 
1937:        The XC-35, first aircraft with a pressurized cabin, makes its first performance flight at Wright Field.
 
1944:        63rd Bomb Sq launches first attack against Philippines with a B-24 Snooper, an ineffective attack on the Sasa airdrome.
 
1950:        Maj Louis J. Sebille receives Medal of Honor posthumously. Citation: http://www.cmohs.org/recipient-detail/3186/sebille-louis-j.php (http://www.cmohs.org/recipient-detail/3186/sebille-louis-j.php)
 
1950:     1st SA-16 rescue of Korean War, CPT Charles Shroder leads save of Navy pilot who had crashed into the sea off the Korean coast.
 
1964:        The National Academy of Sciences sets up 10-man committee to study sonic boom effects in the development of supersonic transports.
 
1968:        A 1,095-foot long STOLPORT (short takeoff and landing strip) opened at LaGuardia Airport, N.Y.
 
 
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Post by: Rhino on August 05, 2014, 07:17:23 AM
On this day in Air Force history --
 
1937:        The XC-35, first aircraft with a pressurized cabin, makes its first performance flight at Wright Field.
 
1944:        63rd Bomb Sq launches first attack against Philippines with a B-24 Snooper, an ineffective attack on the Sasa airdrome.
 
1950:        Maj Louis J. Sebille receives Medal of Honor posthumously. Citation: http://www.cmohs.org/recipient-detail/3186/sebille-louis-j.php (http://www.cmohs.org/recipient-detail/3186/sebille-louis-j.php)
 
1950:     1st SA-16 rescue of Korean War, CPT Charles Shroder leads save of Navy pilot who had crashed into the sea off the Korean coast.
 
1964:        The National Academy of Sciences sets up 10-man committee to study sonic boom effects in the development of supersonic transports.
 
1968:        A 1,095-foot long STOLPORT (short takeoff and landing strip) opened at LaGuardia Airport, N.Y.

Didn't know that. But according to Wikipedia a flight with a pressurized cabin occurred in 1921.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airco_DH.9A (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airco_DH.9A)

Also Boing started work on a pressurized bomber in 1938 culminating in the mighty B-29.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 05, 2014, 07:52:04 AM
Ironic that both flights were in Dayton...but it did say AF history, although saying it was the first aircraft with a pressurized cabin is clearly incorrect.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 08, 2014, 03:58:27 PM
 On this day in Air Force history --
 
1903:        Langley plane successfully launches but flight is short/uncontrollable; Wrights receive credit for 1st sustained/controllable flight.
 
1933:        The Navy accepts the variable-pitch propeller.
 
1946:        The Convair XB-36 Peacemaker first flies at Fort Worth.  (My personal favorite bomber)

 
1955:        X-1A rocket research plane explodes on its B-29 carrier and is jettisoned to destruction. NACA pilot Joe Walker escapes safely.
 
1990:        Operation DESERT SHIELD. The first USAF transport, a C-141, arrives in Dhahran. The aircraft has an AFRES aircrew.
 
2007:        #USAF signs a production contract with Lockheed Martin to add 60 F-22 Raptors to the Air Force inventory by Dec 2011.
 
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Post by: Cholla on August 10, 2014, 11:46:17 AM
IIRC the first production B36 was a gate guard at Great Southwestern airport in Ft. Worth, now on the DFW airport property and razed, which is another story.
The plane was later moved to the factory entrance where it was built. I won't finish the story, don't want to ruin it.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 10, 2014, 12:49:18 PM
The first production B-36A was 44-92004 and was tested to destruction at WP in Dayton.

XB-36 42-13570 wound up as a fire trainer at Carswell.
YB-36 42-13571 got converted to an RB-36E and was scrapped at the USAF Museum in 1971  Wound up in pieces at Walter Soplata's back yard.

The only B36 that I was aware of in Fort Worth (outside of an AF installation) was the last one produced and was a J model 52-2827.  It was moved several years ago to the PIMA museum in AZ where it was fully restored, not without considerable controversy I might add.  This is the one that you are talking about, Cholla.

The last three 36s are at the AF Museum in Dayton, the SAC museum outside of Omaha, and the only RB left in existence is at Castle.  This one holds a special place in my heart as it came from my dad's unit, 28th Bomb Wing (Heavy), Ellsworth AFB, 718th.  It went from Ellsworth to Chanute to Castle.  Both the AF and SAC museums have their 36's under cover.  The one at Castle looks like  :censored: as it's kept outside.  It's also missing it's ECM gear.
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Post by: Cholla on August 10, 2014, 01:12:20 PM
Thank you-dyslexia...yeah that was the problem...
It was the last. Convair became General Dynamics and they had the plane for a while.
The engines were left in place while a gate guard at Great Southwest airport but had been vandalized quite a bit. When DFW airport was built the plane had to be moved so it was proposed it be flown out. After sitting in the hot sun for many years the engines weere readied and started witout being rebuilt. When the plane was ready the FAA wouldn't allow it to be flown.
And the story goes from there.
Look up Great Southwestern (IIRC) airport. It has a story to tell, too. Plus, the story of how DFW came about.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 10, 2014, 02:03:01 PM
Yes it was and still is an interesting story, but it was the AF that was paranoid about it, not the FAA.  They were worried about someone getting it into the air and using it for something sinister, although the amount of fuel required and the crazy maintenance needed to keep it aloft or just having the engines run up precluded it from going anywhere.  And speaking of engines, the same PR R-4360 Wasp Majors were used on the KC-97s and C-124s just to name a very few..

Here's the story of it...

http://www.cowtown.net/proweb/last_one.htm (http://www.cowtown.net/proweb/last_one.htm)

I have an extensive 'library' on all things '36 as it's my favorite bomber, albeit much maligned by people unknowing of the value it provided to the country during the early days of the Cold War.  It gave us time to get the '52s on line and operational (1956) for one.  The Russians were supposedly scared to death of them but I really think that they were scared to death of General LeMay more than the aircraft.
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Post by: Cholla on August 10, 2014, 03:51:21 PM
The AF wouldn't let it go and the FAA wouldn't let it fly (probably in cahoots).
I suggest folks read the stories behind the plane and the airport. A once grand aerodrome done away by politics.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 10, 2014, 06:54:57 PM
That may be, but I've seen nothing about the FAA having anything to do with any decisions based on that aircraft.  I'd like to see that information if so.  The folks at Fort Worth were thinking about flying it 3 miles to get to it's next resting place but the AF did not want that to happen.....and it didn't.  Possibly if the AF had acquiesced to that, then the FAA might have had some involvement but you have to remember it was still considered part of the USAF inventory on load from USAF museum.  It wasn't Fort Worth's decision to make that choice.  It was the Air Force's decision and it was denied.  As far as politics goes, I'm sure that there was some of that going on in the background.  Always is.  There's politics in any organization which is one of the reasons I don't belong to any organizations any more.
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Post by: Cholla on August 10, 2014, 09:19:28 PM
The politics I referred to was concerning the demise of Grest Southwestern airport. It was silently done away with yet when AA employees are in training at the facility which remains on site they aren't officillay at DFW but at the three letter designator for the old airport.
There is a website wich I can't remember that has the story of the aerodrome and the plane-with pics.
My memory is a little foggy so forgive me if I don't remember some stuff correctly.
I used to have a photographic memory but now it's pornographic.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 11, 2014, 04:07:48 AM
 :rotflmao:
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 13, 2014, 08:10:45 AM
 On this day in Air Force history --
 
1917:        The 1st Aero Squadron sails for Europe under command of Maj Ralph Royce; first squadron to report for flying duty in the AEF.
 
1944:        Two GB-4 Glide Bombs, with television and radio controls, are launched against E-boat pens at Le Havre, France.
 
1953:        XC-99, world’s largest plane to date, makes its 1st transatlantic flight from Kelly AFB to Frankfurt with 60,000 pounds of cargo. (correction:  Spruce Goose was the largest)
 
1998:        A 437 AW C-17 from Charleston AFB returns 10 of 12 victims of Nairobi Embassy terrorist bombing to Andrews AFB.


The XC-99 is resting in parts at Wright Patterson in Dayton..  They only made one of these but even with the Xperimental designation they used the hell out of it.  It was grounded in June of 1957 and had logged 7,430 hours and had carried 60 million pounds of cargo while it was operational.  It's load capacity was 100,000 pounds and with that load had an estimated range of  1720 miles.  It held many unofficial records such as speed over a closed course while carrying a payload, 22 payload/distance records, and 7 altitude records.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4-YgrksFbs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4-YgrksFbs)

 
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Post by: Rhino on August 13, 2014, 08:34:38 AM
I learn something new everyday. I had no idea that they had made a cargo version of the B-36. What an airplane that must have been.

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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 13, 2014, 11:03:56 AM
Anything you need to know on the '36 and it's variants...I'm here.  There are at least several You Tube videos on the XC-99..  In fact, if you use Google Earth and go to the AF Museum and then over to that portion of Wright Pat that abuts it, one can see pieces and parts of the XC-99.  They say that they are going to restore it eventually.

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Post by: Rhino on August 13, 2014, 04:03:49 PM
Can't believe I've been on this earth for almost 59 years, been to 49 of the 50 states (including Ohio) and 19 countries but still haven't been to the AF museum. I have got to fix that.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 13, 2014, 04:12:43 PM
8th wonder of the world as far as I'm concerned.  I'm a Foundation member and have been supporting them for years.  I'm going there in September.  It can take at least 2 days to see it all properly or even three depending on how slow you read.  They have an IMAX theater and offer tours to the Experimental/Presidential aircraft and if you play your cards right (have to reserve way ahead of time) you can take a tour of the restoration facility.  My dad has a memorial plate on the wall as well.  I plan on giving them some money after I kick the bucket, that's how much I think of them.  They offer virtual tours of some of the interiors of the aircraft...B-36 is one of them.
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Post by: Rhino on August 14, 2014, 11:02:02 AM
2 Lancaster's in formation for the first time in 50 years.

More at: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-28756779 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-28756779)

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/76921000/jpg/_76921550_lanccharlotte2.jpg)

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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 15, 2014, 05:39:41 AM
Tis a sight to behold!

 On this day in Air Force history --
 
1935:        Will Rogers and Wiley Post die when their aircraft, a hybrid Lockheed Orion-Explorer, crashes on takeoff near Point Barrow, AK.
 
1944:        Allied Air Forces fly 4,249 sorties in Mediterranean theater, land 9,000 airborne troops in Southern France.
 
1945:        After 6 and 9 Aug bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japanese government announces its intention to surrender unconditionally.
 
1958:     Congress creates the FAA with broad responsibilities over airways and air traffic, including military airports, and missile or rocket sites.
 
1964:        The President announces development of a counterinsurgency (COIN) airplane, which becomes the OV-10 Bronco.
 
1970:        Thru 24 Aug 2 new HH-53 rescue helicopters make 9,000-mile flight from Eglin AFB to Da Nang, S. Vietnam: 1st transpacific helo flight.
 
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Post by: Rhino on August 15, 2014, 09:08:56 AM
Tis a sight to behold!

 On this day in Air Force history --
 
1935:        Will Rogers and Wiley Post die when their aircraft, a hybrid Lockheed Orion-Explorer, crashes on takeoff near Point Barrow, AK.
 
1944:        Allied Air Forces fly 4,249 sorties in Mediterranean theater, land 9,000 airborne troops in Southern France.
 
1945:        After 6 and 9 Aug bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japanese government announces its intention to surrender unconditionally.
 
1958:     Congress creates the FAA with broad responsibilities over airways and air traffic, including military airports, and missile or rocket sites.
 
1964:        The President announces development of a counterinsurgency (COIN) airplane, which becomes the OV-10 Bronco.
 
1970:        Thru 24 Aug 2 new HH-53 rescue helicopters make 9,000-mile flight from Eglin AFB to Da Nang, S. Vietnam: 1st transpacific helo flight.

I've been on long flights before that that's got to be a new definition of long flight!
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 15, 2014, 09:20:45 AM
The RB-36 could stay aloft nearly 48 hours without refueling.  Course they had no refueling capability as most military aircraft have these days.
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Post by: Two Skies on August 18, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Saw four of these heading out to the bombing range today.  Still quite the elegant and distinctive looking fighter jet, and a pleasure to behold from the ground!

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Post by: Two Skies on August 22, 2014, 12:16:54 PM
Here's a nice beauty shot showing off part of NASA's experimental aircraft fleet.
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Post by: Charlie747 on September 07, 2014, 12:25:33 PM
2 Lancaster's in formation for the first time in 50 years.

More at: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-28756779 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-28756779)

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/76921000/jpg/_76921550_lanccharlotte2.jpg)

Avro Vulcan Bomber & Double Avro Lancaster Bombers - The Three Sisters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEV5i-Kw4qI#ws)

Vulcan, BBF and Canadian Lancasters at Dunsfold Wings and Wheels 2014 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhNwVcInHSQ#ws)

 :salute:
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Post by: Charlie747 on September 07, 2014, 12:37:51 PM
Just to keep my Guinness drinking mate happy

You don't see B52's climb out like this Jim  :chugbeer:

Thunderous Vulcan XH558 Display at RAF Waddington Airshow. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDpnmYXgHeE#ws)

RAF Waddington airshow 2014 landings, some quite low (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo23ABZkIFM#ws)

WADDINGTON 2014 GLORY BOYS RIP UP THE RUNWAY (airshowvision) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP8_WlyLoME#ws)

Turkish F-16 Pilot Ducks Under The Glide Slope at RAF Waddington Airbase. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBwEFz_WIdQ#ws)

Eurofighter - Full Documentary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7C4kS-0HwI#)



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Post by: rocknrod on September 07, 2014, 01:04:05 PM
I got to crawl around inside a Vulcan in my earlier years. We used to party with the crew and ground crew while they were out on Midway Island.
...You don't see B52's climb out like this Jim  :chugbeer:
Thunderous Vulcan XH558 Display at RAF Waddington Airshow. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDpnmYXgHeE#ws)
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Post by: Charlie747 on September 07, 2014, 01:23:39 PM
I got to crawl around inside a Vulcan in my earlier years. We used to party with the crew and ground crew while they were out on Midway Island.

It fascinates me how our two nations took such different routes of design to achieve the same objective  :1DeadBanana
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Post by: rocknrod on September 07, 2014, 01:35:38 PM
(http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/bomber/tu16/tu16_f14.jpg)
(https://www17.corecommerce.com/~sierrahotel/uploads/image/jollyrogers.jpg)
(http://www.fondosescritorio.org/images/wallpapers/AG-Fighter%20_25%20(8)-121560.jpeg)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on September 07, 2014, 03:08:55 PM
Just to keep my Guinness drinking mate happy

You don't see B52's climb out like this Jim  :chugbeer:


Don't make me come over there and thump you!
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Post by: Clark Kent on September 07, 2014, 03:17:34 PM
OK,  Name all the aircraft you see.  (I got them all!)   :thumbs:  But them I am CK   AKA   Superman!  :finger_fing11:

A typical day at the Tan Son Nhut Airport in Saigon (1968) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=103kHGjdy9w#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on September 07, 2014, 04:05:24 PM
OK,  Name all the aircraft you see.  (I got them all!)   :thumbs:  But them I am CK   AKA   Superman!  :finger_fing11:

A typical day at the Tan Son Nhut Airport in Saigon (1968) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=103kHGjdy9w#)

That's a diverse mix of traffic

Don't make me come over there and thump you!

Beer is already on ice for you Jim  :battle: :chugbeer: :rotflmao:

Love the Tomcat shock wave photo



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Post by: VirginiaJim on September 07, 2014, 06:31:48 PM
 :'(
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Post by: Charlie747 on September 08, 2014, 05:09:05 AM
:'(

Why the tears Jim ?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 08, 2014, 05:32:57 AM
England.
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Post by: Charlie747 on September 08, 2014, 02:06:15 PM
England.

would that be England a forma part of the Uk ? lol
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 08, 2014, 02:28:13 PM
Depends on your point of view... ;)
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Post by: Rhino on September 08, 2014, 02:45:46 PM
Now that I'm 1/2 owner of an RV-3 project it's one of my favorite.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Vans_RV-3_(N46HC).jpg)
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Post by: Two Skies on September 08, 2014, 03:33:32 PM
Now that I'm 1/2 owner of an RV-3 project it's one of my favorite.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Vans_RV-3_(N46HC).jpg)

You should take up crop dusting with that!  Might help pay for your new hobby...
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Post by: Rhino on September 08, 2014, 03:55:01 PM
You should take up crop dusting with that!  Might help pay for your new hobby...

Well at low altitude it could smash a lot of bugs but my old Aeronca 7AC was better at that.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 08, 2014, 04:12:19 PM
Vulcan and Victor at Westover AFB in the mid-60s...and a vid with XH555.  I wish I had more on the Victor but my dad took those.  I'll have to speak to him about that some time in the future.

RAF Gütersloh Airshow 27.5.1967 P1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv-seeVWmIo#)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 09, 2014, 05:06:26 AM
And now for something completely different from the WTF files... 'The SLAM missile would have been a flying Chernobyl'

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-slam-missile-would-have-been-a-flying-chernobyl-daa6066850af
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Post by: Pilgrim on September 09, 2014, 10:08:25 AM

Wings of Freedom Tour, currently in NH.  Moving on to MA, CT, NY, NJ, MD then GA.

http://www.collingsfoundation.org/cf_schedule-wof.htm (http://www.collingsfoundation.org/cf_schedule-wof.htm)
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Post by: Charlie747 on September 09, 2014, 11:14:39 AM
Now that I'm 1/2 owner of an RV-3 project it's one of my favorite.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Vans_RV-3_(N46HC).jpg)

Sweet looking ride Rhino  :chugbeer:
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Post by: Rhino on September 09, 2014, 02:50:31 PM
Sweet looking ride Rhino  :chugbeer:

Thank you! Mine doesn't look anything like that yet. Previous owner had it apart for, engine overhaul, new panel and new paint. He passed away last spring. My brother and I bought it from the estate. He was my brother's best friend since HS and at the Air Force Academy together. Before he (the previous owner) retired he was the commanding General of the NY Air National Guard. We plan to paint it like the NY-ANG post war P-51's and put his name on the side.
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Post by: Charlie747 on September 09, 2014, 05:31:46 PM
A beautiful tribute to your brothers best friend.  Looking forward to seeing the results of your hard work my friend
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Post by: rocknrod on September 13, 2014, 01:00:51 PM
It is kind of P-51ish except the engine cowling  :-\
Once I make my second million I want a Thunder Mustang.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/92/226839273_009f0515a1_z.jpg)
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Post by: Clark Kent on September 13, 2014, 01:02:12 PM
England.


                                                                                             (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f134/ck409/flag-1.gif~original)



This should make you smile, Big Guy with the Sword! 
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Post by: Rhino on September 15, 2014, 06:39:11 AM
Once I make my second million I want a Thunder Mustang.

Here you go, only $425,000!

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?s-type=aircraft&make=Thunder+Mustang&model=Thunder+Mustang&s-seq=2&s-lvl=2 (http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?s-type=aircraft&make=Thunder+Mustang&model=Thunder+Mustang&s-seq=2&s-lvl=2)
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Post by: Rhino on September 15, 2014, 06:47:22 AM
It is kind of P-51ish except the engine cowling  :-\

It's got a Lycoming O-320. Kind of hard to make the cowling look like its got a mini merlin under it. Unlike a Thunder Mustang, the RV's were never intended to look like a P-51 but it is a better resemblance than a Mini Mustang IMO.  ;)

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Post by: VirginiaJim on September 23, 2014, 04:43:19 AM
Doolittle Raid, First Hand Account...

http://www.va163.org/Archives/Doolittle.pdf (http://www.va163.org/Archives/Doolittle.pdf)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on September 23, 2014, 06:56:44 AM
Doolittle Raid, First Hand Account...

http://www.va163.org/Archives/Doolittle.pdf (http://www.va163.org/Archives/Doolittle.pdf)

Fantastic account!  :goodpost:
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Post by: VirginiaJim on September 30, 2014, 02:41:06 PM
I cannot give enough  :thumbs: to do this justice.. :salute:

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-s-lancaster-bomber-returns-home-after-historic-u-k-tour-1.2028602 (http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-s-lancaster-bomber-returns-home-after-historic-u-k-tour-1.2028602)
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Post by: Rhino on October 01, 2014, 06:13:23 AM
I cannot give enough  :thumbs: to do this justice.. :salute:

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-s-lancaster-bomber-returns-home-after-historic-u-k-tour-1.2028602 (http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-s-lancaster-bomber-returns-home-after-historic-u-k-tour-1.2028602)

Nice! So happy I got a chance to see a Lancaster fly at Oshkosh years ago. One shot in the stock WWII footage in the report was of a B-24 not a Lanc. But what can you expect from TV reporters.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on October 06, 2014, 06:08:18 AM
Fourth hanger expansion slide set for the USAF Museum in Dayton, Oh.  I helped pay for this!  Opening in 2016.


http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/photos/slideshow.asp?id={0171161F-B77D-4973-8BEC-0BCC46538B77} (http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/photos/slideshow.asp?id={0171161F-B77D-4973-8BEC-0BCC46538B77})

4th Bldg Construction Highlights September 2014 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLDkYt_2uRw#ws)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srKIF165xkA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srKIF165xkA)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on October 18, 2014, 08:28:31 AM
USAF Mystery Space Plane comes home...

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/mysterious-x-37b-space-plane-returns-earth-after-nearly-two-n226846 (http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/mysterious-x-37b-space-plane-returns-earth-after-nearly-two-n226846)

Air Force's X-37B: Secret Space Plane Returns to Earth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64FnSCdOP14#ws)
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Post by: Pilgrim on October 18, 2014, 12:48:56 PM
Jim,
I didn't think that was your type?   :stirpot:
You said a couple months ago about the MQ-9, "While some may like these new fangled aircraft, I can certainly say that I don't.  I like large aircraft, piloted directly by human beings, that drop very large bombs and cause massive destruction...all for world peace, of course."
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Post by: VirginiaJim on October 18, 2014, 01:34:00 PM
CRS... ;)   Ask my wife, she'll tell you that.  Most times my immediate reaction to anything new is 'NO' or 'Hell No' or Effen that.  However, for some strange reason, sometimes I can modify a stance.  In this case, I have it on good authority that it was piloted by midgets or very small children using their LeapFrogs.  It's the new AF.
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Post by: SapperLdr on October 18, 2014, 06:46:46 PM
I was thinking the other day that the X-37 program would be cool to work on.  It looks like the AF is moving the flights to Florida.
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Post by: Rick Hall on October 18, 2014, 08:53:04 PM
My favorite airplane is any one I can take a Young Eagle up in.

Rick
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Post by: VirginiaJim on October 18, 2014, 09:34:08 PM
The X-37 will work but they have to be on the smallish side..
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: SapperLdr on October 19, 2014, 03:07:02 PM
Doing some research on old airstrips in AZ, I came across some pics of old Connies.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 19, 2014, 03:52:43 PM
Ooooh, Ooooh, I have one my dad took in Scotland...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/4014879753/in/set-72157625486565429 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/4014879753/in/set-72157625486565429)

I love that aircraft.  It's very unique.
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Post by: Rhino on October 20, 2014, 07:27:53 AM
Ooooh, Ooooh, I have one my dad took in Scotland...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/4014879753/in/set-72157625486565429 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/4014879753/in/set-72157625486565429)

I love that aircraft.  It's very unique.

The Connie is a beautiful aircraft even in military livery and pregnant with radar domes.
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Post by: AlbertaDoug on October 27, 2014, 05:52:01 AM
Watched this comfy couch and a couple of Cessnas take off from Springbank Ab airport.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 29, 2014, 04:14:49 AM
Bad day in Virginia...

Unmanned Antares Rocket Explodes on Launch

http://www.usatoday.com/media/cinematic/video/18082521/ (http://www.usatoday.com/media/cinematic/video/18082521/)

http://www.usatoday.com/media/cinematic/video/18099223 (http://www.usatoday.com/media/cinematic/video/18099223)

http://www.usatoday.com/media/cinematic/video/18095397 (http://www.usatoday.com/media/cinematic/video/18095397)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on October 29, 2014, 04:23:17 AM
Jack Broughton 1925-2014  RIP

http://www.airforcemag.com/DRArchive/Pages/2014/October%202014/October%2028%202014/Jack-Broughton,-1925-2014.aspx (http://www.airforcemag.com/DRArchive/Pages/2014/October%202014/October%2028%202014/Jack-Broughton,-1925-2014.aspx)
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Post by: paulthibodeaux on October 29, 2014, 04:30:23 PM
Went to New Orleans Saturday. Air show: Only flying B29, only flying Hell diver, B17, B24, P51, T6, C45 and a Stearman. With the right money, you could get a ride on most, if not all of them. Lot of WW2 vets including Doolittle's co pilot. Talked to a B17 waist gunner who did 26 missions. Just hearing those engines run was worth the admission. Great Day.
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Post by: Pilgrim on November 14, 2014, 02:57:26 PM
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/Pilgrim32/Misc/F-16Israeli_at_Red_Flag_zpsacc66edb.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pilgrim32/media/Misc/F-16Israeli_at_Red_Flag_zpsacc66edb.jpg.html)
F-16s at Red Flag
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Post by: Two Skies on November 14, 2014, 04:20:25 PM
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/Pilgrim32/Misc/F-16Israeli_at_Red_Flag_zpsacc66edb.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pilgrim32/media/Misc/F-16Israeli_at_Red_Flag_zpsacc66edb.jpg.html)
F-16s at Red Flag

Love the tail art in that pic!

The Israeli F-16I's aka Sufas, have a number of modifications, the most noticeable being the conformal dorsal fuel tanks, which incidentally are removeable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics_F-16_Fighting_Falcon_variants#F-16I_Sufa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics_F-16_Fighting_Falcon_variants#F-16I_Sufa)

Attached is another pic showing a Sufa during a refueling operation, that gives a nice view of the conformal tanks.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Racer Boy on November 22, 2014, 06:52:27 PM
Yesterday I was in Renton, Washington at the Boeing 737 factory, and saw this new 737 taxiing for it's maiden flight.

737's are common, but I thought the livery on this one was pretty unique.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on November 23, 2014, 07:24:28 AM
Budget Thai airline...I can't imagine what it looks like inside.
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Post by: Racer Boy on November 23, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
I had to Google Nok Air to figure out where they were. I guess "Nok' is Thai for bird. I think the paint scheme is actually pretty cool.

I've seen a lot of maiden flights at of the various Boeing jets made at Renton through the years. Going way back, 707's (by the time I saw them, it was the AWACS variant), 727's (at that point, only the FedEx cargo variant), 757's, and of course the 737's. They always taxi down the runway at a moderate speed, then turn around and come back at a slightly faster speed, where they once again turn around, then they take off. On the climb-out, they raise the gear, then lower and raise it again before turning east.

Kind of cool.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 26, 2014, 12:25:20 PM
U2 Dragon Lady Cockpit Footage and T-38 Talon Chase Plane

http://youtu.be/u_CL7v5ST44?list=UUAdN9s9MrsX0BVdz4XZAhaA (http://youtu.be/u_CL7v5ST44?list=UUAdN9s9MrsX0BVdz4XZAhaA)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on November 26, 2014, 08:24:01 PM
This is a f'n gold mine!

http://3973cds.com/content.php?cat=113 (http://3973cds.com/content.php?cat=113)
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Post by: Charlie747 on November 27, 2014, 12:16:46 AM
This is a f'n gold mine!

http://3973cds.com/content.php?cat=113 (http://3973cds.com/content.php?cat=113)

Agree thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on November 27, 2014, 12:17:22 AM
U2 Dragon Lady Cockpit Footage and T-38 Talon Chase Plane

http://youtu.be/u_CL7v5ST44?list=UUAdN9s9MrsX0BVdz4XZAhaA (http://youtu.be/u_CL7v5ST44?list=UUAdN9s9MrsX0BVdz4XZAhaA)

Nice
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Post by: gPink on December 06, 2014, 12:57:17 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/11225530/Red-Barons-WWI-German-Fokker-triplane-rebuilt-by-flying-enthusiast.html?frame=3103672&page=1 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/11225530/Red-Barons-WWI-German-Fokker-triplane-rebuilt-by-flying-enthusiast.html?frame=3103672&page=1)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: AlbertaDoug on December 07, 2014, 08:22:10 PM
U2 Dragon Lady Cockpit Footage and T-38 Talon Chase Plane

http://youtu.be/u_CL7v5ST44?list=UUAdN9s9MrsX0BVdz4XZAhaA (http://youtu.be/u_CL7v5ST44?list=UUAdN9s9MrsX0BVdz4XZAhaA)


Copyright claim won't allow viewing!!!!
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Post by: VirginiaJim on December 08, 2014, 05:21:53 AM
Oh well.  It was nice while it lasted.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 08, 2014, 08:41:00 AM
Consolidated PBY video...

Consolidated PBY on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/99919462)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: SevenAce on December 08, 2014, 09:50:09 AM
Cool thread. I need to set aside a rainy day to watch all the vids here and dig up one from the story below.

Had to share, although not exciting(slow), I got to witness FordMoCo time a Model T on their 4-mile test oval with the take-off of an old Ford mail plane. Apparently the plane left the ground at 20mph at the same moment the Model T and the plane were rolling side by side. The hairs stood up on the back of my neck - and SO FEW people got to see it. I was working for Volvo at the time and just plain LUCKY!

The plane had to be jumped by an old Ford Taurus security car(!) and supposedly was made from so much Balsa wood and wrapped in fabric(?) This was all part of the Ford 100th Anniversary celebrations in Dearborn. Many cool planes were there and then flown to a museum after their final flights that day; but my head was working in another arena so I didn't get to learn much about them. I was in awe of the executives who flew in on the highest tech and latest helicopters only to go for a ride in these archaic planes for their final voyages. The helicopters then chased them for their return. Those of us 'non-plane' people were nervous as heck and so relieved to see everyone get back safely.


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Post by: VirginiaJim on December 09, 2014, 05:22:30 AM
Green Cross to Bear - The Japanese Surrender Flights

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/451/language/en-CA/Green-Cross-to-Bear.aspx (http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/451/language/en-CA/Green-Cross-to-Bear.aspx)

The Final Toast

http://www.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/223/Article/467482/doolittle-raiders-honored-with-final-toast.aspx (http://www.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/223/Article/467482/doolittle-raiders-honored-with-final-toast.aspx)

Kilroy was here!

http://www.shangralafamilyfun.com/kilroywashere.html (http://www.shangralafamilyfun.com/kilroywashere.html)
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Post by: Rhino on December 09, 2014, 08:34:37 AM
Green Cross to Bear - The Japanese Surrender Flights

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/451/language/en-CA/Green-Cross-to-Bear.aspx (http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/451/language/en-CA/Green-Cross-to-Bear.aspx)

The Final Toast

http://www.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/223/Article/467482/doolittle-raiders-honored-with-final-toast.aspx (http://www.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/223/Article/467482/doolittle-raiders-honored-with-final-toast.aspx)

Kilroy was here!

http://www.shangralafamilyfun.com/kilroywashere.html (http://www.shangralafamilyfun.com/kilroywashere.html)

Jim, where do you find all this great stuff!?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 09, 2014, 09:17:43 AM
Some Yahoo groups I belong to...

vintagemilitaryaircraftunitedstates

USAF_Bombers_and_Tankers

canadasarmedforces

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 09, 2014, 09:21:14 AM
Unfreakin believable...

http://news.yahoo.com/usaf-paint-trucks-because-f-35-t-fly-033918678.html (http://news.yahoo.com/usaf-paint-trucks-because-f-35-t-fly-033918678.html)

Seems they don't like hot weather.. :doh:   I'm not liking the F-35 at all...what a boondoggle.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 09, 2014, 11:23:33 AM
Unfreakin believable...

http://news.yahoo.com/usaf-paint-trucks-because-f-35-t-fly-033918678.html (http://news.yahoo.com/usaf-paint-trucks-because-f-35-t-fly-033918678.html)

Seems they don't like hot weather.. :doh:   I'm not liking the F-35 at all...what a boondoggle.

I think the whole concept is dumb. If you need a VTOL aircraft, build the best dedicated VTOL aircraft you can. Do not compromise a non VTOL air superiority fighter if you don't need VTOL. I believe 2 aircraft, 1 VTOL, the other not, would be cheaper then trying to build one super aircraft that you know has to make trade offs to do both missions.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: SapperLdr on December 11, 2014, 09:43:47 AM
Unfreakin believable...

http://news.yahoo.com/usaf-paint-trucks-because-f-35-t-fly-033918678.html (http://news.yahoo.com/usaf-paint-trucks-because-f-35-t-fly-033918678.html)

Seems they don't like hot weather.. :doh:   I'm not liking the F-35 at all...what a boondoggle.

From what I have seen so far the Air Force is trying to spin this as not a F-35 problem, that all tactical aircraft have a fuel temp upper limit.  They are correct but what they are not saying is how much of a mission derogation the F-35 incurs as the the fuel temperature goes up. I believe the concern is for the IR signature of the aircraft.   
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: rocknrod on December 11, 2014, 03:15:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDi9UesRS1A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDi9UesRS1A)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on December 11, 2014, 04:11:13 PM
Yeah, on the whole multipurpose F-35 thing, I think that is a concept taken a bit too far.  A jack of all trades is a master of none, and the F-35 feels very JOT to me.  Plus, as someone mentioned above, degrading mission turnaround times (because the fuel is too hot to be an effective coolant) is a big deal, especially if you are deployed in such fun places as Saudi Arabia, which routinely sees temps in the triple digits.

I still think the Swedes have the entire STOL concept about right with the Viggens and Gripens.  Not sure if any Viggens are still in service, but the Gripen has been a success.  Janes recently (in 2012) gave the Gripen top honors for the lowest cost per flight hour, or CPFH (when fuel, maintenance, etc. are combined), of $4,700 CPFH.  As a comparison, the Block C/D F-16 weighs in at about $7,000 CPFH.  I'm sure the F-35 will be well above the F-16 numbers once it has been in service and the 'kinks' worked out.

The Gripen is Multirole done right IMHO.  The F-35 is just a boondoggle.  And to think that they consider the F-35 as even remotely capable of replacing the A-10 in it's mission role... kind of makes you wonder who's steering the ship there in the Pentagon.

But I digress.  This is supposed to be a happy thread.  In that spirit...  Three beautiful birds!

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Pilgrim on December 11, 2014, 04:15:16 PM
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/Pilgrim32/Misc/F-15RSAF_zps1efd6714.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pilgrim32/media/Misc/F-15RSAF_zps1efd6714.jpg.html)
Royal Saudi AF F-15.  The camera in that reconnaissance pod is made by the same company that makes the U2 cameras.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Cholla on December 13, 2014, 02:06:34 PM
The line aboutthe fuel being too hot to be used as coolant is crap. They used it on the SR71 in the 60s. And the SR generated way more heat than this plane.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on December 13, 2014, 04:08:03 PM
The line aboutthe fuel being too hot to be used as coolant is crap. They used it on the SR71 in the 60s. And the SR generated way more heat than this plane.

Here's a writeup that talks about the issue:
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-f-35-cant-run-on-warm-gas-from-a-fuel-truck-that-sa-1668120726 (http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-f-35-cant-run-on-warm-gas-from-a-fuel-truck-that-sa-1668120726)

The SR-71 is a completely different animal.  First off, it is designed from the ground up to withstand much higher temperatures (turns out that going Mach 3+ generates a LOT of heat from friction from air being forced over the aircraft surfaces).  Also, JP7 fuel has a significantly higher flash point than JP-8 does, again with the heat envelope that the SR-71 operates within in mind.  Over 90% of the SR-71 uses titanium composites, so that the wings and such don't simply melt away or deform at the higher temps from friction at Mach 3+.

In fact, the SR-71 was well known for leaking fuel like a sieve when sitting on the runway.  Once the flight surfaces expanded from in-flight friction and such increasing the surface temp of the craft, then the leaks would seal up, which is why SR-71's generally refueled once they were underway, to replace all of the fuel left on the ground back at base, as well as to top off the tanks (SR-71's generally began their missions with just enough fuel to take off and make it to the tanker, so they wouldn't waste as much fuel on the ground).  I've attached a pic showing a fuel puddle accumulating underneath an SR-71 during mission prep.

The F-35 isn't capable or expected to operate in those environs.  She tops out at about Mach 1.57, using published specs (1,199 MPH top speed)

Finally, as noted in the article above, the F-35 was designed to use it's fuel as a heat sink for it's avionics and such.  This was done partially to reduce the weight of the craft.  Sure, they could have handled shunting heat in a different manner, but that likely would have added to the weight of the craft, hence reducing it's potential payload capacity.

The Air Force quotes I've read on this issue mention that once the F-35 is flying, this is not an issue.  Which makes sense because the craft is in motion at that point.  The potential issue arises during takeoff operations, at which point the craft isn't able to shed heat as easily (air isn't passing over the flight surfaces as rapidly, or much at all at all during taxi operations).  The Air Force also claims that this won't affect mission readiness, but of course they aren't going to openly admit that their new baby has a significant flaw in it's design...

In short, I'm not surprised that the whiz kids at Lockheed designed the heat envelope for the F-35 so tightly.  One only has to look at current engineering trends to see how much less 'overengineering' is done these days.  Gotta make room for all of the other 'features' (in aircraft as well as in automobiles) ya know...  The SR-71 was borne from those 'overengineering' days, as was the B-52...


I'm sure this 'fuel issue' will be worked out in future variants/blocks, of course.  That's generally how it's done.  Identify the problems in the 'A' model, fix it in the next one.  Of course, in the F-35's case, it'll start with D/E/F (A is conventional, B is VSTOL, and C is the Carrier variant).  The articles I've read so far refer to the 'A' variant, dunno how the B's and C's are faring with this issue.

I've also attached a pic of an M-21 (SR-71 variant) with a drone strapped on, just because...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 13, 2014, 06:53:32 PM
The line aboutthe fuel being too hot to be used as coolant is crap. They used it on the SR71 in the 60s. And the SR generated way more heat than this plane.

The F-35 ain't no SR-71 and the fuel issue is well known and the AF is dealing with it.  I don't think A-10s have that issue, though.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on December 14, 2014, 06:12:16 PM
This pic is so caption worthy!

I'm going with 'awww, he found a little friend...'
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Cholla on December 15, 2014, 09:02:44 AM
Quit familiar with the operating parameters of the SR, i have a few friends who used to work on them.
Seems like the F-35 is a boondoggle due to govt requirements. They think you can make anything do anything when specialty items are needed. They will spend more making something that does things half arsed than by building 2 or 3 items that perform their intended role better.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 15, 2014, 09:21:24 AM
This pic is so caption worthy!

I'm going with 'awww, he found a little friend...'
(http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15610.0;attach=22295;image)

Hey buddy, get your crotch out of my nose or you will loose it!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 15, 2014, 12:44:43 PM
This pic is so caption worthy!

I'm going with 'awww, he found a little friend...'


Hey buddy, get your crotch out of my nose or you will loose it!


MMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm................small sausage supper   :stirpot:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on December 15, 2014, 01:05:58 PM
'The other white meat'
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 16, 2014, 06:35:05 AM
Patches for US spy satellite launches..

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/creepy-kitschy-and-geeky-patches-us-spy-satellites-180953562/?no-ist (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/creepy-kitschy-and-geeky-patches-us-spy-satellites-180953562/?no-ist)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 16, 2014, 06:39:34 AM
Got to wonder what this mission was about.

(http://thumbs.media.smithsonianmag.com//filer/62/5d/625dc91d-655b-400c-92ea-ee8d0cbaa259/great-bear.jpg__600x0_q85_upscale.jpg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on December 16, 2014, 03:02:59 PM
Got to wonder what this mission was about.

(http://thumbs.media.smithsonianmag.com//filer/62/5d/625dc91d-655b-400c-92ea-ee8d0cbaa259/great-bear.jpg__600x0_q85_upscale.jpg)

Off the top of my head, I'd guess it involves the Big Dipper (the Dippers are also known as the Great Bear and Little Bear).  That being said, yeah there could be multiple meanings there...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 16, 2014, 03:06:40 PM
The B-52 turns 60.

http://www.cnet.com/pictures/the-b-52-bomber-turns-60-photos/?ftag=ACQdfcfc1 (http://www.cnet.com/pictures/the-b-52-bomber-turns-60-photos/?ftag=ACQdfcfc1)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 16, 2014, 04:51:29 PM
A magnificent beastie indeed.. :salute:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 17, 2014, 04:06:18 AM
From Vintage News...

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/206/The-Shepherda-Canadian-Christmas-Classic.aspx (http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/206/The-Shepherda-Canadian-Christmas-Classic.aspx)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 17, 2014, 04:41:16 PM
The B-52 turns 60.

http://www.cnet.com/pictures/the-b-52-bomber-turns-60-photos/?ftag=ACQdfcfc1 (http://www.cnet.com/pictures/the-b-52-bomber-turns-60-photos/?ftag=ACQdfcfc1)

A magnificent beastie indeed.. :salute:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-KIAsuoMAQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-KIAsuoMAQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5qqfsQGYus (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5qqfsQGYus)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSbPqin3L6E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSbPqin3L6E)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSQAZEp3PA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSQAZEp3PA)

A tribute to all that it never performed its design objective in anger.

How old is the oldest flying example ?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on December 17, 2014, 04:54:58 PM



A tribute to all that it never performed its design objective in anger.


How old is the oldest flying example ?

......or by accident.... :o.... http://www.history.com/news/document-reveals-1961-nuclear-close-call-over-north-carolina (http://www.history.com/news/document-reveals-1961-nuclear-close-call-over-north-carolina)

On January 23, 1961, a B-52 Stratofortress bomber patrolled the night skies over the Atlantic Ocean. It was three days after the presidential inauguration of John F. Kennedy, and with the Cold War in a full freeze, American bombers such as this one carrying a pair of 3.8-megaton Mark 39 hydrogen bombs were kept airborne at all times to defend the country. Many hours had passed since the B-52 took off from Seymour Johnson Air Force Base near Goldsboro, North Carolina, when something suddenly went wrong on the routine Strategic Air Command training mission.

Fuel started to gush out of a leak in the plane. Nineteen tons of fuel were lost in just two minutes. As the pilot attempted to limp back to Goldsboro, the right wing suddenly sheered from the plane. The bomber plunged into a tailspin and began to break up. Six of the eight crewmen ejected. As the plane spiraled to earth, the bombs, each of which were 260 times more powerful than the nuclear weapon dropped on Hiroshima, broke loose and plunged to the ground as well. Five of the men who were ejected parachuted to safety; the other three crew members were killed in the crash.

When responders arrived on the crash scene 15 miles from Goldsboro, they discovered one of the nuclear weapons had landed in a field with its deployed parachute tangled in the branches of a tree. The second bomb had anything but a soft landing. It became entombed after striking the ground at nearly 700 miles per hour
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on December 17, 2014, 05:26:07 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-KIAsuoMAQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-KIAsuoMAQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5qqfsQGYus (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5qqfsQGYus)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSbPqin3L6E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSbPqin3L6E)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSQAZEp3PA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSQAZEp3PA)

A tribute to all that it never performed its design objective in anger.

How old is the oldest flying example ?

Did a quick Google Search.  Balls-8 (a NB-52B used to carry test aircraft by NASA) was retired a bit ago.  So the only B-52's left still in service are all 'H' models, built between May 1961 and October 1962.  A recent count mentioned that 94 are still in service (not sure if we sustained any B-52 losses since 2012).
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 18, 2014, 04:28:29 AM
Only three active bomb wings remain, Minot and Barksdale.   Only two B-1 bomb wings remain, Rapid City and Dyess.  The 52's of Minot are temporarily at Rapid City while the runway's are being refurbished..at least they were last time I checked.

And while the 52 hasn't been used in nuclear anger, they've certainly been used in dropping conventional bomb loads in Vietnam and other locations.  They are just about the perfect sky borne weapons platform.

Latest current count of B-52s are 76 (as in the trombones)
B-1 - 66
B-2 - 20

Largest number of USAF aircraft of the same type is the F-16 at  a whopping 1023.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 19, 2014, 03:58:56 AM
Where are they now?

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/history/HistoricAircraft/where_are/index.html#.VJQEof8KcCA (http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/history/HistoricAircraft/where_are/index.html#.VJQEof8KcCA)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 19, 2014, 06:50:11 AM
I have go to go to Dayton!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 19, 2014, 11:31:09 AM
I go every year.  It's the 8th wonder of the world.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 19, 2014, 11:45:57 AM
Oldest Flying Jet Returns to U.S.
 

 AVwebFlash
 
 December 19, 2014
 
 An F-86A Sabre built in 1948 is the world's oldest flying jet and recently arrived back in the United States after several decades in Europe, EAA reported this week.
 
 The airplane, which EAA hopes will fly next summer at AirVenture, is the only surviving "A" model. Its service history includes Strategic Air Command, Air Defense Command, and the California Air National Guard. It flew in defense of the Los Alamos nuclear research facility with the 94th Fighter Squadron of the 1st Fighter Group.
 
 The Sabre was later transferred to a technical college in Fresno, California and then sold to a local scrap dealer, where it was bought by Ben Hall of the Sabre Pilots Association in 1970. The jet was restored and flew again in 1974.
 
 The airplane went to the U.K. in 1990 and spent 22 years flying on the European airshow circuit, operated by the Golden Apple Trust. Dr. John Swartz, of Afton, Oklahoma, an EAA member, recently acquired the aircraft and had it shipped to Heritage Aero, in Rockford, Illinois. The airplane will be reassembled and is expected to be flying by March, with a goal to be fully FAA certified in time to fly before the crowds at Oshkosh in July.
 
 A lengthy history of the jet can be found online here (http://tinyurl.com/kx8yusf (http://tinyurl.com/kx8yusf)) and a 3-D tour of an F-86A cockpit is posted online here (http://tinyurl.com/l29zwh3 (http://tinyurl.com/l29zwh3)). The video was produced as a farewell to the jet from the folks at Golden Apple Trust.
 
 Video (runs 6:42):

 http://youtu.be/UsphTktf9Fg (http://youtu.be/UsphTktf9Fg)  [/color][/font]
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 19, 2014, 11:54:57 AM
X-15 jettison's ventral fin in landing at Edwards...

http://youtu.be/OFmfFMoUQZQ?list=UUAdN9s9MrsX0BVdz4XZAhaA (http://youtu.be/OFmfFMoUQZQ?list=UUAdN9s9MrsX0BVdz4XZAhaA)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on December 19, 2014, 12:49:53 PM
Oldest Flying Jet Returns to U.S.
 

 AVwebFlash
 
 December 19, 2014
 
 An F-86A Sabre built in 1948 is the world's oldest flying jet and recently arrived back in the United States after several decades in Europe, EAA reported this week. <snip
 
 

Only 45 years earlier, the Wright Bros were playing on the beach. Amazing!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 19, 2014, 03:29:37 PM
Oldest Flying Jet Returns to U.S.
 

 AVwebFlash
 
 December 19, 2014
 
 An F-86A Sabre built in 1948 is the world's oldest flying jet and recently arrived back in the United States after several decades in Europe, EAA reported this week.
 
 The airplane, which EAA hopes will fly next summer at AirVenture, is the only surviving "A" model. Its service history includes Strategic Air Command, Air Defense Command, and the California Air National Guard. It flew in defense of the Los Alamos nuclear research facility with the 94th Fighter Squadron of the 1st Fighter Group.
 
 The Sabre was later transferred to a technical college in Fresno, California and then sold to a local scrap dealer, where it was bought by Ben Hall of the Sabre Pilots Association in 1970. The jet was restored and flew again in 1974.
 
 The airplane went to the U.K. in 1990 and spent 22 years flying on the European airshow circuit, operated by the Golden Apple Trust. Dr. John Swartz, of Afton, Oklahoma, an EAA member, recently acquired the aircraft and had it shipped to Heritage Aero, in Rockford, Illinois. The airplane will be reassembled and is expected to be flying by March, with a goal to be fully FAA certified in time to fly before the crowds at Oshkosh in July.
 
 A lengthy history of the jet can be found online here (http://tinyurl.com/kx8yusf (http://tinyurl.com/kx8yusf)) and a 3-D tour of an F-86A cockpit is posted online here (http://tinyurl.com/l29zwh3 (http://tinyurl.com/l29zwh3)). The video was produced as a farewell to the jet from the folks at Golden Apple Trust.
 
 Video (runs 6:42):

 http://youtu.be/UsphTktf9Fg (http://youtu.be/UsphTktf9Fg)  [/color][/font]


Had the pleasure and privilege to see and hear this old war bird at Duxford on a mid week visit a few years ago doing its display routine in front of the man who signed it off as safe to perform. 

Had a good long chat with that man as we both stood by an empty runway the smell and sound of that bird filling ear and nostril ....................

You forget the slow acceleration and long take off roll compared with the modern toys.............and the volume would put a Motorhead concert into the pussy zone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9-smBLCGbM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9-smBLCGbM)

Also found this and thought you might enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQjdNK6lhdM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQjdNK6lhdM)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 21, 2014, 03:40:05 PM
OK.......................The question is .............................name that plane?

Jim got it after 3 photo's

Here's the first...................more to follow when you need more clues

 
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 21, 2014, 05:10:35 PM
Rules...this can be any aircraft from WWII to current inventory of any country...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on December 21, 2014, 06:34:12 PM
Feels like a Tornado to me...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 21, 2014, 08:01:43 PM
 :censored: :battle: Absolutely correct!  What led you to the correct conclusion?  I couldn't figure it out until I saw the front of the aircraft.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on December 21, 2014, 09:55:16 PM
The hemispherical wing roots led me to believe that it might be a variable sweep wing aircraft.  So I compared it to the F-111, and the F-111 has a completely different landing gear and intake configuration.

I then compared it to the F-14, but again the landing gear and inlets didn't look quite right.

The angled engine inlets next led me to the F-15 (very similar inlets to the one in the pic), but again the landing gear didn't look right.

I briefly considered the Flanker, but I didn't dig very far in that direction.  Again very similar inlets, although the wing roots are different.

So that led me back to variable sweep wings, and the only other aircraft I could find with similar inlets on short notice (note how the angled inlets bend to 'vertical' at the bottom' was the Tornado.  I couldn't find a 'clear' view of the rear landing gear, but the wing and tail roots were in about the right place, and also the landing gear bay looked about right, hence my guess that it was a Tornado.

Gotta luv google for aircraft pics!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 22, 2014, 03:30:19 AM
:censored: :battle: Absolutely correct!  What led you to the correct conclusion?  I couldn't figure it out until I saw the front of the aircraft.

Jim's clues are the first 3 pictures the rest are FYI



 
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 22, 2014, 03:33:49 AM
The hemispherical wing roots led me to believe that it might be a variable sweep wing aircraft.  So I compared it to the F-111, and the F-111 has a completely different landing gear and intake configuration.

I then compared it to the F-14, but again the landing gear and inlets didn't look quite right.

The angled engine inlets next led me to the F-15 (very similar inlets to the one in the pic), but again the landing gear didn't look right.

I briefly considered the Flanker, but I didn't dig very far in that direction.  Again very similar inlets, although the wing roots are different.

So that led me back to variable sweep wings, and the only other aircraft I could find with similar inlets on short notice (note how the angled inlets bend to 'vertical' at the bottom' was the Tornado.  I couldn't find a 'clear' view of the rear landing gear, but the wing and tail roots were in about the right place, and also the landing gear bay looked about right, hence my guess that it was a Tornado.

Gotta luv google for aircraft pics!

Love that thought process on this one and a winner on 1st picture  :chugbeer: :chugbeer: :goodpost:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 22, 2014, 04:13:15 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 22, 2014, 12:59:26 PM
Identify this aircraft...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on December 22, 2014, 01:52:20 PM
 Lightning XS894
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 22, 2014, 02:29:23 PM
Too  :censored: easy!  :yikes:   Of course I realized this searching the image with Google image and it came up with a BAZILLION hits....well....maybe two pages.  I've got to make this more difficult.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on December 22, 2014, 02:33:10 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on December 22, 2014, 07:03:09 PM
OK, in the spirit of 'guess the jet'... what is this?

(note - I removed/blurred the aircraft ID numbers and such, but the photo is otherwise unmodified by me - didn't want to make it too easy).

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 22, 2014, 07:21:18 PM
I love it!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on December 22, 2014, 07:41:04 PM
Going to have to dig deeper to get past google image search.  :)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 22, 2014, 08:02:39 PM
This is the daily double...got one in the background as well.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on December 22, 2014, 08:10:35 PM
This is the daily double...got one in the background as well.

Yeah, I have no clue what the one in the background is.  It just kinda piggybacked...

That being said, I like your suggestion to ID it as well!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 23, 2014, 04:18:30 AM
As Gary mentioned...in this game Google is not your friend in that if it's an image hosted on the 'Net, it can be fairly easy to find the answer.  In this case...

EWR VJ (nice touch) 101

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EWR_VJ_101 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EWR_VJ_101)

Maybe I should require an essay on the aircraft....not starting with me.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 23, 2014, 04:32:54 AM
The prop airliner in the background may be a Convair-440 Metropolitan or at the very least one of the CV-240 family of aircraft.  As the other aircraft was a VSTOL made in Germany, it could very well be a CV-440.  These aircraft were used by Lufthansa and were around until about the mid-60s.  It was a DC-3 replacement.
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Post by: gPink on December 23, 2014, 04:54:41 AM
From.... http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dornier-VJ-101-X1/1230006/M/ (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dornier-VJ-101-X1/1230006/M/)

More: Untitled
More: Dornier VJ 101-X1 D-9517 Jump jet
More: Hanover (- Langenhagen) (HAJ / EDDV)
More: Germany, April 25, 1964
Remark   Photographer
More: Ralf Manteufel

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 23, 2014, 08:51:47 AM
The prop airliner in the background may be a Convair-440 Metropolitan or at the very least one of the CV-240 family of aircraft.  As the other aircraft was a VSTOL made in Germany, it could very well be a CV-440.  These aircraft were used by Lufthansa and were around until about the mid-60s.  It was a DC-3 replacement.

In the Civil Air Patrol in the 70's, at Cannon AFB, I got a ride in an Air Force transport that I know was a 2 engine Convair of some sort. Sure looked like that.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on December 23, 2014, 08:57:39 AM
In the Civil Air Patrol in the 70's, at Cannon AFB, I got a ride in an Air Force transport that I know was a 2 engine Convair of some sort. Sure looked like that.
Clovis,NM. A little bit of paradise.  ::)
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Post by: Two Skies on December 23, 2014, 03:56:43 PM
I will share what brought me to that particular jet (the VJ 101).

I was doing a google search for Century fighters, and saw a reference to a XF-109.  This led me to the Bell D-188A, which has swivel engine mounts for VTOL operations on the wingtips.

Unfortunately, Bell didn't make a full scale working/flightworthy jet version of this design, so the only pics I could find were primarily models and static displays.

However, this led me to the discussion about similar craft, and the VJ 101 came to my attention.

Two VJ 101's were built.  One crashed during testing, and the other one was eventually put into a museum.

Notable achievements of this model (from the Wiki) were achieving Mach 1.04 without afterburners, multiple aerodynamic flights, hover tests, and transistions. All of this was achieved in the early 1960's, and of course provided valuable flight testing data for future VTOL jets on the drawing boards in various countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EWR_VJ_101 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EWR_VJ_101)

All in all a very fascinating aircraft.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 23, 2014, 07:56:24 PM
mmmmmmmmm......Century Fighters...........mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 24, 2014, 04:28:21 AM
One last flight...

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/498/One-Last-Fight.aspx (http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/498/One-Last-Fight.aspx)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 26, 2014, 05:01:08 AM
AVWEB FLASH

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/Park-Service-Seeks-Tour-Guides-for-B-29-Wreckage223294-1.html (http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/Park-Service-Seeks-Tour-Guides-for-B-29-Wreckage223294-1.html)

Never heard of this wreck...hush hush..
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: rocknrod on December 26, 2014, 08:37:56 AM
One last flight...
http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/498/One-Last-Fight.aspx (http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/498/One-Last-Fight.aspx)
That got me thinking of Victor Belenko. I read his book (twice) it was interesting.
http://seanmunger.com/2013/09/06/the-odyssey-of-viktor-belenko-a-fascinating-footnote-to-the-cold-war/ (http://seanmunger.com/2013/09/06/the-odyssey-of-viktor-belenko-a-fascinating-footnote-to-the-cold-war/)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 28, 2014, 06:44:55 AM
I love the smell of new aircraft...

http://youtu.be/T2M9N8LxK1I (http://youtu.be/T2M9N8LxK1I)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 28, 2014, 11:11:33 AM
Love the grey/silver paint and polished metal finish  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 28, 2014, 11:27:44 AM
AVWEB FLASH

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/Park-Service-Seeks-Tour-Guides-for-B-29-Wreckage223294-1.html (http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/Park-Service-Seeks-Tour-Guides-for-B-29-Wreckage223294-1.html)

Never heard of this wreck...hush hush..

Oh man I'm in! I've got to figure out how to sign up for a dive on this wreck.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 29, 2014, 04:27:04 AM
KC-46 first test flight.

http://youtu.be/6v_eqnfHfLY (http://youtu.be/6v_eqnfHfLY)

http://youtu.be/FVsyeww2uco (http://youtu.be/FVsyeww2uco)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 29, 2014, 08:47:41 AM
So why didn't they go with the more modern and efficient 777 instead of the 767?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 29, 2014, 09:13:31 AM
777 is larger and quite a bit more expensive than the 767.  I'm sure that there are other differences that made Boeing and USAF decide on that platform.  This decision came to be in the early 2000's and that may have had something to do with it.

Additional info:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/kc-777.htm (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/kc-777.htm)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 31, 2014, 08:49:14 AM
7th Bomb Wing (Dyess AFB) announces Big Country Airfest and World's largest BBQ...May 2nd - 3rd 2015

http://www.dyess.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123435451 (http://www.dyess.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123435451)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on January 02, 2015, 10:39:16 AM
7th Bomb Wing (Dyess AFB) announces Big Country Airfest and World's largest BBQ...May 2nd - 3rd 2015

http://www.dyess.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123435451 (http://www.dyess.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123435451)

Cool! I'm about a 4 hour ride from this. Or about a 1 hour flight in my brothers Mooney.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 02, 2015, 12:19:22 PM
I don't go to those anymore, they just make me sad but I imagine that there are others that would enjoy it...hence the post.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 03, 2015, 07:23:43 AM
Agent Orange..

http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2015/January%202015/The-Lingering-Story-of-Agent-Orange.aspx (http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2015/January%202015/The-Lingering-Story-of-Agent-Orange.aspx)

Admiral Zumwalt spoke at my college graduation.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 04, 2015, 04:56:52 PM
Agent Orange..

http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2015/January%202015/The-Lingering-Story-of-Agent-Orange.aspx (http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2015/January%202015/The-Lingering-Story-of-Agent-Orange.aspx)

Admiral Zumwalt spoke at my college graduation.

Good read  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 05, 2015, 04:03:16 AM
Happy New Year, Charlie!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 08, 2015, 07:52:36 PM
Breaking news in the UK...and Europe

http://www.defense.gov/Releases/Release.aspx?ReleaseID=17097 (http://www.defense.gov/Releases/Release.aspx?ReleaseID=17097)

Mildenhall, Alconbury, and Molesworth to close.  KC-135s at Mildenhall will be relocated to Germany.  F-35s will be based at Lakenheath when they become operational.  Operations at Alconbury and Molesworth (communications) will most likely be moved to RAF Croughton.

I wonder which base will be the entry point for military families coming and going?

Also, Lajes will be scaled back by 500 personnel.

I guess all of this is inevitable as the world changes and the technology improves.  Just don't need the bases anymore.  It's sad really

Remaining bases not slated for closure yet:  Lakenheath, Croughton, Welford, Menwith Hill, and Fairford.

Actions will take place in Germany with some resources being moved to Aviano.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 13, 2015, 04:10:57 AM
Is this real ?  If so serious respect for the skill and cool of pilot

  https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1157166247334&set=vb.1173074047&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1157166247334&set=vb.1173074047&type=3&theater)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 13, 2015, 06:33:44 AM
If it is, he is one of the best pilots I've ever seen.  Course there is the story about the Delta Dart landing itself after the pilot ejects..

http://www.torch.aetc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123242002 (http://www.torch.aetc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123242002)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Deziner on January 13, 2015, 07:19:20 AM
Yep, needing clean shorts.....
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on January 13, 2015, 12:46:22 PM
Is this real ?  If so serious respect for the skill and cool of pilot

  https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1157166247334&set=vb.1173074047&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1157166247334&set=vb.1173074047&type=3&theater)

Totally fake. If you look closely there are slightly different versions of the aircraft because film of a real airplane was spliced together with film of a model airplane. This has been around the net for 5 or 6 years.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on January 13, 2015, 01:14:39 PM
Does that mean Charlie has to buy the beer?  :)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on January 13, 2015, 01:29:39 PM
Does that mean Charlie has to buy the beer?  :)

And the sausages! We just have to buy the plan ticket over the pond.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 13, 2015, 02:09:15 PM
They'll be no beer buying from Charlie if he comes over here.  That will be taken care of..
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 13, 2015, 04:26:33 PM
Does that mean Charlie has to buy the beer?  :)

And the sausages! We just have to buy the plan ticket over the pond.

They'll be no beer buying from Charlie if he comes over here.  That will be taken care of..


Thanks guys that sounds like a plan  :chugbeer: :chugbeer: :thumbs:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 23, 2015, 05:02:52 AM
Flying boats..

http://youtu.be/6H2ol6SY3Ts (http://youtu.be/6H2ol6SY3Ts)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 23, 2015, 06:56:19 PM
Flying boats..

http://youtu.be/6H2ol6SY3Ts (http://youtu.be/6H2ol6SY3Ts)


 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on January 23, 2015, 10:16:51 PM
Flying boats? No such thing. There are boats and there are airplanes that float.  ;D
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on January 24, 2015, 07:53:02 AM
Flying boats? No such thing. There are boats and there are airplanes that float............But not every time  :rotflmao:  
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on February 09, 2015, 02:48:59 AM
Found this and thought some of you would appreciate it  :salute:

http://gelio.livejournal.com/193025.html (http://gelio.livejournal.com/193025.html)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Deziner on February 09, 2015, 06:55:59 AM
Judging by the way I was sandwiched between 2 of what could have been contestants on "The Biggest Loser" the last time I flew, American Airlines should invest in a few of these.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on February 09, 2015, 09:14:21 AM
Found this and thought some of you would appreciate it  :salute:

http://gelio.livejournal.com/193025.html (http://gelio.livejournal.com/193025.html)

What a beast! Great website for this unique aircraft. Thanks for sharing Charlie!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Cholla on February 10, 2015, 12:57:35 AM
DidI read that right? It has to be refueled every two hours aloft?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Two Skies on February 10, 2015, 12:36:46 PM
DidI read that right? It has to be refueled every two hours aloft?

That's what I saw...
Per the linked article:
Quote
Fuel consumption rate makes 15.9 tons per hour for a cruise flight.
When fully loaded, the aircraft can keep on flying without refueling for about 2 hours.]Fuel consumption rate makes 15.9 tons per hour for a cruise flight.
When fully loaded, the aircraft can keep on flying without refueling for about 2 hours.

31.8 tons of fuel for a 2 hour flight... yeah that sounds like one EXPENSIVE fuel bill

That thing is definitely one massive beast!  Did you note that the thing is carrying spare tires in the cargo bay (just inside from the nose), and that the rearmost tires in one of the pics are polished off pretty good -I'd surmise that this would mainly be from turning while taxi-ing the aircraft, the rearmost tires will do the most skidding in a turn.  Anyone with 2-3 axle trailer experience should be familiar with this.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on February 10, 2015, 01:17:43 PM
16 tons of fuel per hour is about 5,300 gal/hour. Sounds about right for 6 of the worlds largest jet engines. But hard to believe it only carries 11,000 gallons. A 747 carries almost 50,000 gallons. According to Wikipedia the an225 has a fuel capacity of 300,000 kg. Thats 660,000 lbs or 110,000 gallons. About 10 hours of fuel.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: tweeter55 on February 10, 2015, 08:30:12 PM
I'll apologize in advance if this has already been posted.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/iKlt6rNciTo?rel=0 (http://www.youtube.com/embed/iKlt6rNciTo?rel=0)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Deziner on February 10, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
I just watched the last 30 minutes or so of "Fast and Furious Six" and I believe it had an AN-225 in the grand climax.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on February 11, 2015, 06:53:12 AM
I'll apologize in advance if this has already been posted.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/iKlt6rNciTo?rel=0 (http://www.youtube.com/embed/iKlt6rNciTo?rel=0)

A B-24 every 55 minutes! The logistics alone to be able to do that boggles the mind. No computers, no spread sheets, no cell phones, no email, all done with paper and pencils and a phone system that required operators to make physical connections between hubs.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: ManWorkinghere on February 11, 2015, 01:01:01 PM
Found this and thought some of you would appreciate it  :salute:

http://gelio.livejournal.com/193025.html (http://gelio.livejournal.com/193025.html)

The BBC says:

The longest aircraft in the world has been unveiled at an airfield in Cardington, England, from where the great airships of the 1920s flew (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26372277)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: SapperLdr on February 18, 2015, 11:26:39 AM
Cool pic from earlier this month at Minot.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 18, 2015, 12:39:01 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 20, 2015, 04:23:03 AM
Ghost Rider fly's again...B-52 0007 resurrected from the Bone Yard.

http://www.afrc.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/136/Article/566416/resurrecting-the-ghost-rider.aspx (http://www.afrc.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/136/Article/566416/resurrecting-the-ghost-rider.aspx)

Can't find any video of it yet...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on February 20, 2015, 06:52:15 AM
Ghost Rider fly's again...B-52 0007 resurrected from the Bone Yard.

http://www.afrc.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/136/Article/566416/resurrecting-the-ghost-rider.aspx (http://www.afrc.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/136/Article/566416/resurrecting-the-ghost-rider.aspx)

Can't find any video of it yet...

Cool story! #0007 must be one of the original models. I wonder if they upgraded it to an H model because I thought thats all they were flying these days. I was at the University of Arizona in the 70's and in AFROTC. We could sign up to ride in the back of AF helicopter training flights at Davis Monthan. Flying over the bone yard was interesting. All manner of aircraft including lots of BUFF's even then. My favorite was seeing some B-58's. It was before they created the Pima Air Museum and we got to see from the air lots of cool airplanes from the 50's and 60's. Although no B-36's, I always looked for one but I guess they never had them in that bone yard.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 20, 2015, 10:58:00 AM
B/RB-36s were processed immediately for the metal.  The only thing they may have kept were the Wasp Major 4360 radial engines and J47 turbojets as some parts may have been interchangeable with other aircraft of that time.  My dad's aircraft was one of the last ones processed in FY59 by the Bone Yard.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Cholla on February 20, 2015, 02:56:25 PM
It must be an H model. Tail # 61-1007 means it was out of the contract for H models in 61 IIRC. The story says it was delivered new in 62, which further proves it being an H model.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on February 20, 2015, 03:12:04 PM
It must be an H model. Tail # 61-1007 means it was out of the contract for H models in 61 IIRC. The story says it was delivered new in 62, which further proves it being an H model.

Oh I only saw 0007 thinking this was the 7th airframe built. That makes more sense.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 20, 2015, 03:17:04 PM
The AF only has H models in the active inventory.  0007 was an H when it was built.  0001-0040 were all H's.  There has been talk of a J model but that hasn't amounted to anything as yet that I know of.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Deziner on February 20, 2015, 03:23:36 PM
It's pretty much a given that I'm a motorhead. You guys must be wingheads.    :salute:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on February 20, 2015, 03:49:58 PM
It's pretty much a given that I'm a motorhead. You guys must be wingheads.    :salute:

I think that's actually 'wingnuts'.  ::)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Deziner on February 20, 2015, 03:54:02 PM
I think that's actually 'wingnuts'.  ::)

I would have used that term but I've heard that used to describe Gold Wing riders and y'all have WAY more class than that. :)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: SapperLdr on February 20, 2015, 04:12:26 PM
Ghost Rider fly's again...B-52 0007 resurrected from the Bone Yard.

http://www.afrc.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/136/Article/566416/resurrecting-the-ghost-rider.aspx (http://www.afrc.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/136/Article/566416/resurrecting-the-ghost-rider.aspx)

Can't find any video of it yet...

Thanks for the link. I saw another article on this but no pictures.  No video either.

Did find this pic of it leaving DM.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 20, 2015, 08:56:56 PM
If I would have seen it leave the Bone Yard I think I would have cried for joy.  It's not often the inmates get to leave...in one piece.

In doing some research on 0007, I found the list of '52s that were lost over Vietnam...  None were H's, the majority were D's, tall tails.  One from the 99th brought a tear as that was from Westover, Dad's last CONUS assignment as he was First Sergeant for the 99th OMS, our last SAC assignment.  From then on he was TAC.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 20, 2015, 10:27:12 PM
Lifting the Dead...

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/504/Lifting-the-Dead.aspx (http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/504/Lifting-the-Dead.aspx)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 20, 2015, 10:28:05 PM
It's pretty much a given that I'm a motorhead. You guys must be wingheads.    :salute:

More like aircraft detectives..
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 21, 2015, 06:30:04 AM
TU-95 Interception from the Russki point of view...

http://youtu.be/TnZMy1WWjZs (http://youtu.be/TnZMy1WWjZs)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: SapperLdr on February 21, 2015, 05:19:42 PM
TU-95 Interception from the Russki point of view...

http://youtu.be/TnZMy1WWjZs (http://youtu.be/TnZMy1WWjZs)

That is cool being able to see the pitch of the blades.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: tweeter55 on February 21, 2015, 06:45:41 PM
Sometimes you can enjoy the big small ones, also.
http://youtu.be/9owlwlxJxPw (http://youtu.be/9owlwlxJxPw)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 21, 2015, 06:47:54 PM
You could fit a couple of midgets in there quite easily...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on February 24, 2015, 01:40:11 PM
Some interesting formation flying


http://youtu.be/gI4jWYZLeHQ (http://youtu.be/gI4jWYZLeHQ)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on February 25, 2015, 02:13:20 AM
Top Gear James May
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACuAIuNIj6w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACuAIuNIj6w)

Mr P and his ego doing a bit of a Mr Adolf in Europe !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_OEtKtLJI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_OEtKtLJI)

Please note use of high performance ham sandwich in this next one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCqiiOO3ZzI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCqiiOO3ZzI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7C4kS-0HwI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7C4kS-0HwI)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 25, 2015, 01:02:00 PM
Top Gear James May
3 squadron RAF Coningsby

Mr P and his ego doing a bit of a Mr Adolf in Europe !

 :thumbs: to the RAF!

Please note use of high performance ham sandwich in this next one

Refueled by a VC-10, most excellent indeed.  As an airliner it holds the fastest speed between London and New York short of the Concorde.  Resided at 101 Squadron - Brize Norton.  Has been replaced by the Airbus A330 Voyager..which simply does not look as good as a VC-10.

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Strawboss on February 27, 2015, 12:01:54 PM
Just watched an old TV show "Wings of the Red Star", it was on the TU-95 "Bear" bomber, what a plane, I would have loved to see one fly by just to hear the supposedly incredibly loud sound they make from the counter rotating props, all of which are spinning slightly faster than sound at the tips. 32 of them.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 27, 2015, 12:25:51 PM
B-36 was louder..ask my dad, he lost part of hearing working on them.

http://youtu.be/VGjyH2ulsCk (http://youtu.be/VGjyH2ulsCk)

[smg id=682 type=av]

I don't detect any jet noise in that sound bite so they must not have been 'turned on' at the time.  Typically they were only used on take off or quick acceleration events.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 04, 2015, 04:49:40 AM
Warbirds of America - HD   The scene where they are parked in a field is at Dayton, Oh....Air Force Museum.

https://vimeo.com/101647637

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 05, 2015, 04:22:27 AM
The SAC Mentality...

http://www.airpower.au.af.mil/digital/pdf/articles/2015-Mar-Apr/F-Deaile.pdf (http://www.airpower.au.af.mil/digital/pdf/articles/2015-Mar-Apr/F-Deaile.pdf)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on March 05, 2015, 09:59:50 AM
The SAC Mentality...

http://www.airpower.au.af.mil/digital/pdf/articles/2015-Mar-Apr/F-Deaile.pdf (http://www.airpower.au.af.mil/digital/pdf/articles/2015-Mar-Apr/F-Deaile.pdf)

Cool story. My brother was a bombardier navigator on a B-52H in the late 70's with exactly that mission. I'll have to ask him what he thinks of the article.
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Post by: Deziner on March 05, 2015, 11:01:11 AM
Cool story. My brother was a bombardier navigator on a B-52H in the late 70's with exactly that mission. I'll have to ask him what he thinks of the article.

No way! My brother did the same thing! He was stationed at K.I. Sawyer in the 70's. Drove up to Marquette in '75? to visit. The running joke was "We could sell the U.P. to the Russians and they still wouldn't be any closer to the Mainland U.S."
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 05, 2015, 11:02:05 AM
I grew up in SAC as an AF brat in the mid to late 50's through the latter 60's.  General LeMay was a force to be reckoned with and I know the hardships put on the personnel and families during those times.  But you know what, the Russians were scared to death of SAC and especially LeMay because they knew what he could do.  SAC never knew an aircraft that couldn't carry a Nuc.
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Post by: Deziner on March 05, 2015, 11:04:37 AM
Couldn't and/or didn't.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 05, 2015, 12:19:17 PM
If it couldn't carry a Nuc then they were figuring out ways so that it could..
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Post by: Cholla on March 05, 2015, 01:08:16 PM
And with the F-105 they could get a nuc there very quickly.
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Post by: ManWorkinghere on March 05, 2015, 01:54:21 PM
Sometimes you can enjoy the big small ones, also.
http://youtu.be/9owlwlxJxPw (http://youtu.be/9owlwlxJxPw)

I shed a tear when that P-40 Warhawk model bit the dust shortly after takeoff.   :(
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Post by: Rhino on March 05, 2015, 03:37:09 PM
No way! My brother did the same thing! He was stationed at K.I. Sawyer in the 70's. Drove up to Marquette in '75? to visit. The running joke was "We could sell the U.P. to the Russians and they still wouldn't be any closer to the Mainland U.S."

My brother was at Kincheloe in the U.P. in 75 or 76. Is that the same as K.I. Sawyer? Graduated in 74 then nav school then B52 bomb school then Kincheloe. Then was reassigned to Elisworth a few years later. Didn't like being in the windowless hole bouncing around low level for hours on end so he got out in 80 I think. I wonder if they knew each other.
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Post by: tweeter55 on March 05, 2015, 05:30:57 PM
http://youtu.be/sXCZLSih9DY (http://youtu.be/sXCZLSih9DY)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 12, 2015, 04:44:52 AM
Excellent document on American X-Vehicles X1 - X50

http://history.nasa.gov/monograph31.pdf (http://history.nasa.gov/monograph31.pdf)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 13, 2015, 04:07:51 AM
Air Force museum in Dayton to close R&D and Presidential galleries in preparation to move aircraft into the newly constructed fourth building.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123441259 (http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123441259)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 13, 2015, 04:11:03 AM
Bizarre aircraft you may not have seen before..

http://imgur.com/gallery/I6ob7 (http://imgur.com/gallery/I6ob7)
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Post by: tweeter55 on March 13, 2015, 04:37:29 AM
The Libellula...the original VariEze.
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Post by: Rhino on March 13, 2015, 10:47:14 AM
Some fun photo shop pics from:

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/outrageously-edited-world-war-ii-pictures.html (http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/outrageously-edited-world-war-ii-pictures.html)

(http://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/if_star_wars_640_16-640x480.jpg)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 14, 2015, 09:38:18 AM
Ellsworth B-1 takeoff from Nellis.

http://media.dma.mil/2015/Mar/13/2001023801/-1/-1/0/150303-F-AT963-124.JPG (http://media.dma.mil/2015/Mar/13/2001023801/-1/-1/0/150303-F-AT963-124.JPG)
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Post by: SapperLdr on March 16, 2015, 07:36:13 PM
A couple from last year.
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Post by: SapperLdr on March 16, 2015, 07:41:49 PM
A nice one.
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Post by: SapperLdr on March 16, 2015, 07:44:22 PM
A couple of broke ones.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 17, 2015, 04:06:27 AM
A couple from last year.

I believe that the base is Dyess.  C-130J Super Hercules from the 317th ANG doing the Elephant walk.

http://www.dyess.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123434184 (http://www.dyess.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123434184)

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Post by: SapperLdr on March 17, 2015, 08:20:00 AM
^ You are correct sir.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 17, 2015, 11:00:02 AM
I usually am, unless I'm not.
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Post by: Rhino on March 17, 2015, 11:16:43 AM
How is this airplane still flying? Notice the right aileron in the up position but still hard to believe it has enough control authority to keep the airplane from rolling over. I'm guessing he didn't land on the deck but flew back to a friendly ship to bail out next to it. Gotta love the Grumman "Iron Works". I know this Avenger could have been built by another contractor but it was Grumman who designed it.

(http://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/4009441841_G.sized_.jpg)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 17, 2015, 12:22:12 PM
or this one...

http://airpigz.com/blog/2011/6/29/video-proof-b-52-vertical-fin-is-optional-equipment-1964.html (http://airpigz.com/blog/2011/6/29/video-proof-b-52-vertical-fin-is-optional-equipment-1964.html)

http://youtu.be/WJuEAQbxWRo (http://youtu.be/WJuEAQbxWRo)
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Post by: Rhino on March 17, 2015, 01:24:18 PM
A tail I can understand because the fundamental balance of lift and center of gravity isn't compromised too much. But the lift on that Avenger is way non-symmetrical.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 17, 2015, 01:58:01 PM
Ah the gauntlet has been thrown down..

http://youtu.be/1lvEGohPmxk (http://youtu.be/1lvEGohPmxk)
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Post by: Rhino on March 17, 2015, 02:21:23 PM
Oh yea, I remember that story. With enough thrust, anything can be made to fly I guess. I'm shocked they didn't just punch out.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 17, 2015, 02:45:15 PM
F-16 with a wing and a half..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/02/20/near-miss-this-f-16-landed-after-half-its-wing-was-sheared-off/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/02/20/near-miss-this-f-16-landed-after-half-its-wing-was-sheared-off/)
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Post by: Rhino on March 23, 2015, 01:05:48 PM
I never knew they built a 747 air tanker. I'm guess this was a prototype for a Boing bid when the USAF bought the KC-10. But just a guess.

(http://img.odometer.com/slides/3/3/2/0/4/0/3320408869/acc3c08247c2fd06f55a478c2437ddb503e7abe3.jpeg)
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Post by: Cholla on March 23, 2015, 03:56:21 PM
The KC-33A was proposed, just as stated when the KC-10 bidding was being let.
The Air Force, it its infinite wisdom went with the KC-10.
Iran bought four of the KC-33s for use with their F-4s but it is not known if they are still serviceable as tankers.
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Post by: AlbertaDoug on March 23, 2015, 11:04:45 PM
Ah the gauntlet has been thrown down..

http://youtu.be/1lvEGohPmxk (http://youtu.be/1lvEGohPmxk)

Interesting. Them two boys got lucky!
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Post by: Rhino on March 24, 2015, 06:58:44 AM
The KC-33A was proposed, just as stated when the KC-10 bidding was being let.
The Air Force, it its infinite wisdom went with the KC-10.
Iran bought four of the KC-33s for use with their F-4s but it is not known if they are still serviceable as tankers.

I had a buddy that was a P3 instructor pilot that went over to Iran in the Shah days to train Iranian pilots. He said none of the candidates could safely be signed off. The were told to sign them off anyway. So on the last day, right before leaving the country, they signed off the pilots but he was never sure if any of the P3's flew again.
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Post by: MAN OF BLUES on April 10, 2015, 11:51:34 AM
So while playing ADV tag this week, a pal posted a pic from a HUGE collection of old war birds....
I'm fighting a cold, so I didn't run to the tag site yet, hopefully I can grab it tomorrow....
Its only 20 minutes from my house, and I had heard about it years ago, but never could find where it was, they kept it hush hush to keep hoards of pickers from converging on it.....

I'll go in the morn, and shoot pics....
Here is a story written by the son of the fellow that owned the collection ( now deceased).
http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/the-soplata-airplane-sanctuary-22000009/ (http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/the-soplata-airplane-sanctuary-22000009/)

Its such a huge collection I could find it using bing sattelite photos in the area... and clearly can see all the planes that still exist there...
Awesome stuff...
http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qxbcg886ygfp&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=9377893&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qxbcg886ygfp&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=9377893&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 10, 2015, 01:51:12 PM
Definitely know about him and his collection.  He had a piece of a carcass of a B-36.  Walter Soplata

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=soplata&view=detailv2&&&id=F3A6E9DE1D21B4EA9884A0666E913BA3DD531AF3&selectedIndex=0&ccid=LEdfuz3n&simid=608021314985461410&thid=HN.608021314985461410&ajaxhist=0 (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=soplata&view=detailv2&&&id=F3A6E9DE1D21B4EA9884A0666E913BA3DD531AF3&selectedIndex=0&ccid=LEdfuz3n&simid=608021314985461410&thid=HN.608021314985461410&ajaxhist=0)
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Post by: Rhino on April 14, 2015, 08:26:06 AM
"Lower than a snakes belly" great collection of pics of airplanes flying lower than they should.

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/325/Lower-than-a-Snakes-Belly-in-a-Wagon-R.aspx?hc_location=ufi (http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/325/Lower-than-a-Snakes-Belly-in-a-Wagon-R.aspx?hc_location=ufi)
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Post by: jettawreck on April 20, 2015, 08:31:03 PM
Got to watch the MN DNR planes work a fire and refilling the water bombers on a local lake Saturday. Two AT 802 Fire Boss and two CL-415. Impressive to watch them at work. Doesn't take em long to make a round trip from the fire, reload and return.
Link to AT 802: http://www.airtractor.com/aircraft/802f-fire-boss (http://www.airtractor.com/aircraft/802f-fire-boss)
Link to CL-415: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_415 (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_415)

http://youtu.be/cHuoXD_VmBs (http://youtu.be/cHuoXD_VmBs)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 21, 2015, 04:12:27 AM
Wow!
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Post by: tweeter55 on April 21, 2015, 07:22:01 PM
Got to watch the MN DNR planes work a fire and refilling the water bombers on a local lake Saturday. Two AT 802 Fire Boss and two CL-415. Impressive to watch them at work. Doesn't take em long to make a round trip from the fire, reload and return.
Link to AT 802: http://www.airtractor.com/aircraft/802f-fire-boss (http://www.airtractor.com/aircraft/802f-fire-boss)
Link to CL-415: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_415 (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_415)

http://youtu.be/cHuoXD_VmBs (http://youtu.be/cHuoXD_VmBs)
And quite accurate:
http://youtu.be/-ZkV64GJihA (http://youtu.be/-ZkV64GJihA)
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Post by: jettawreck on April 21, 2015, 07:51:36 PM
That put the fire right out! Cool!
Hope there were no bystanders.
2000 gallons dropped from speed would flatten you permanently.
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Post by: tweeter55 on May 02, 2015, 08:49:07 PM
My brother got me interested in these videos:
http://youtu.be/J2AIZ80ALww (http://youtu.be/J2AIZ80ALww)
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Post by: turbojoe78 on May 07, 2015, 05:22:39 AM
Thought some of you might like this ...
Cameron Airshow 2014 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/100670266)
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Post by: tweeter55 on May 07, 2015, 05:47:26 AM
Thought some of you might like this ...
Y'all thought right.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 09, 2015, 11:15:35 AM
Can anyone identify this base or facility.  I think it's in Europe.  In the background is the word (looks like it might be France) FRAN on a building...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/4713543470/in/photolist-8bw9fS-77Mi7B-8bsSTT-8bw9Ab-8bsSHD (https://www.flickr.com/photos/12675355@N04/4713543470/in/photolist-8bw9fS-77Mi7B-8bsSTT-8bw9Ab-8bsSHD)
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Post by: gPink on May 09, 2015, 01:04:35 PM
All I get is yahoo login page
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 09, 2015, 04:43:17 PM
Try it now...didn't realize it was set up as private.   Also, identify the aircraft in the picture if you can.  Ok, 63718 is a U8-D Beech Queen Air, based in Heidleburg Germany at some point in time.  Even more news on that aircraft - went to MASDC as UB080 Sept. 7, 1979.  Lived a long life.  Have no clue what a UB080 is.

MASDC - Military Aircraft Storage and Disposition Center

I'm thinking it's Orly Air Base (located at Orly) as I found another pic with that background with France on it.  Not quite the same, but close.
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Post by: Charlie747 on June 26, 2015, 08:11:28 PM
70 year old queen of the sky meets Japanese & German engineering

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Post by: VirginiaJim on June 27, 2015, 03:36:43 AM
Tis a beautiful background, Charlie.  Too bad the bikes are obscuring the aircraft... ;)
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Post by: gPink on June 27, 2015, 06:19:32 AM
Tis a beautiful background, Charlie.  Too bad the bikes are obscuring the aircraft... ;)
Especially that silver gray monstrosity in the bottom pic.
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Post by: Charlie747 on June 27, 2015, 10:05:42 AM
Especially that silver gray monstrosity in the bottom pic.

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :chugbeer:
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Post by: Charlie747 on June 27, 2015, 11:41:24 AM
Tis a beautiful background, Charlie.  Too bad the bikes are obscuring the aircraft... ;)

Move pics with bikes out of the way here...............

http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=4905.0 (http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=4905.0)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on June 28, 2015, 10:00:09 AM
Presidential Aircraft over the years...

FDR - Pan Am Boeing 314 sea plane 'Dixie Clipper', C-54 Skymaster, C-87A 'Guess Where II', C-54C Skymaster 'The Sacred Cow'.
Truman - VC-118 Liftmaster 'Independence'
Eisenhower - VC-121A 'Columbine II', VC-121E 'Columbine III'
Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon - VC-137C 'SAM 26000' (707) Longest serving Presidential Aircraft
Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan - 'SAM 27000' newer version of VC-137C
Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - VC-25 (747) 'Sam 28000'

Future aircraft will be a Boeing 747-8 according to the USAF.
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Post by: tweeter55 on June 28, 2015, 08:16:45 PM
http://youtu.be/jfYSmGl8io8 (http://youtu.be/jfYSmGl8io8)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on June 29, 2015, 10:35:20 AM
Wow!
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Post by: SapperLdr on June 29, 2015, 07:19:38 PM
Some of the things they did during WWII are just crazy.   :o
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Post by: SapperLdr on June 29, 2015, 07:26:34 PM
This was supposed to have been taken before they restricted flight over the canyon. Right back seat of an A-6.
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Post by: Rhino on June 30, 2015, 07:27:38 AM
This was supposed to have been taken before they restricted flight over the canyon. Right back seat of an A-6.

An Intruder in the canyon? That must have been awesome!
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 04, 2015, 09:04:19 AM
Night time flightline photo...
Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker 58-0027 Utah ANG 151st ARW Salt Lake City, UT
http://media.dma.mil/2015/Jul/02/2001187764/-1/-1/0/150625-F-FF470-519.JPG (http://media.dma.mil/2015/Jul/02/2001187764/-1/-1/0/150625-F-FF470-519.JPG)
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Post by: Deziner on July 04, 2015, 09:29:19 AM
Crews have had B52s down IN the Snake River Canyon.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 04, 2015, 09:47:46 AM
That certainly would be a sight to see!
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Post by: Rhino on July 04, 2015, 02:31:01 PM
Would love to be standing on the rim and look down on a flying B-52  8)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 04, 2015, 03:26:33 PM
Aye.   Would be a sight to behold indeed.
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Post by: gPink on July 04, 2015, 04:01:39 PM
Interesting pics....http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/325/Lower-than-a-Snakes-Belly-in-a-Wagon-R.aspx (http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/325/Lower-than-a-Snakes-Belly-in-a-Wagon-R.aspx)
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Post by: SapperLdr on July 04, 2015, 04:04:49 PM
Night time flightline photo...
Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker 58-0027 Utah ANG 151st ARW Salt Lake City, UT
http://media.dma.mil/2015/Jul/02/2001187764/-1/-1/0/150625-F-FF470-519.JPG (http://media.dma.mil/2015/Jul/02/2001187764/-1/-1/0/150625-F-FF470-519.JPG)

very cool picture!
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Post by: Sgt Mac on July 05, 2015, 02:04:00 AM
Interesting pics....http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/325/Lower-than-a-Snakes-Belly-in-a-Wagon-R.aspx (http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/325/Lower-than-a-Snakes-Belly-in-a-Wagon-R.aspx)

Very cool page.


A P-47 of the 64th Fighter Squadron, while on a mission to Milan, struck the ground during a low level strafing run. Despite the bent props and crushed chin, the pilot nursed the Jug 150 miles home to Grosseto. Photo via Hebb Russell
(http://www.vintagewings.ca/Portals/0/Vintage_Stories/NewStories-C/Lower%20than%20a%20snake/Lowdown24.jpg)

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Post by: Flat-spot on July 05, 2015, 11:25:22 AM
^^^ HOLEEE CRAP!!!   Can you imagine all the dropped jaws after he landed and shut it down.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 05, 2015, 01:03:09 PM
Pilot to maintenance crew...'Seems to be vibrating a bit.'
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Post by: Rhino on July 06, 2015, 09:45:29 AM
Pilot to maintenance crew...'Seems to be vibrating a bit.'

I bet he had to change his flight suite immediate upon landing.
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Post by: Rhino on July 08, 2015, 12:20:23 PM
Speaking of low flying BUFF's...

Not photo-shopped, could have looked down on a flying B-52 from the deck of the carrier.

(http://www.vintagewings.ca/Portals/0/Vintage_Stories/NewStories-C/Lower%20than%20a%20snake/Lowdown8.jpg)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 08, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
More info on that pic here...it's down aways on the page.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread222355/pg3 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread222355/pg3)
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Post by: Charlie747 on July 22, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
This should have Jim sitting of the edge of his seat sinking a few beers  :chugbeer: :chugbeer:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IYzrvD_QNs&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IYzrvD_QNs&feature=player_embedded)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-OXLAyNpbM&feature=player_detailpage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-OXLAyNpbM&feature=player_detailpage)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1l9GyJlmN4&feature=player_detailpage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1l9GyJlmN4&feature=player_detailpage)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJlsDiC9TBI&feature=player_detailpage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJlsDiC9TBI&feature=player_detailpage)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UF_IcpYfbk&feature=player_detailpage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UF_IcpYfbk&feature=player_detailpage)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yry2LnaNeXc&feature=player_detailpage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yry2LnaNeXc&feature=player_detailpage)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odQIwC0917Y&feature=player_detailpage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odQIwC0917Y&feature=player_detailpage)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m3Zfnfi-Hg&feature=player_detailpage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m3Zfnfi-Hg&feature=player_detailpage)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elyWH5NKoZE&feature=player_detailpage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elyWH5NKoZE&feature=player_detailpage)

Enjoy :salute:

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Post by: Charlie747 on July 22, 2015, 05:47:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zuOfVWjeL8o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zuOfVWjeL8o)

 :chugbeer: :chugbeer:
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 22, 2015, 05:50:06 PM
What, no Victors? 

Spock thanks you as well as I... :finger_fing11:
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Post by: Charlie747 on July 22, 2015, 05:51:14 PM
What, no Victors? 

Spock thanks you as well as I... :finger_fing11:

 :rotflmao: :chugbeer:
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 22, 2015, 06:01:06 PM
Vulcan and Victor..  Both photos taken at Westover AFB in the mid-60s by my dad.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 23, 2015, 04:32:15 AM
B-52 landing at Oshkosh...

http://youtu.be/CL-JK6HPAuU (http://youtu.be/CL-JK6HPAuU)

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/b-52-makes-challenging-landing-to-visit-oshkosh-on-hist-1719206718 (http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/b-52-makes-challenging-landing-to-visit-oshkosh-on-hist-1719206718)
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Post by: Rhino on July 23, 2015, 02:31:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zuOfVWjeL8o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zuOfVWjeL8o)

 :chugbeer: :chugbeer:

Beautiful stuff right there!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on July 23, 2015, 03:03:08 PM
Beautiful stuff right there!

To see the  last 3 mobile  left..................................... :banana
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: SapperLdr on July 23, 2015, 06:48:14 PM
B-52 landing at Oshkosh...

http://youtu.be/CL-JK6HPAuU (http://youtu.be/CL-JK6HPAuU)

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/b-52-makes-challenging-landing-to-visit-oshkosh-on-hist-1719206718 (http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/b-52-makes-challenging-landing-to-visit-oshkosh-on-hist-1719206718)


Such an awesome aircraft!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on July 24, 2015, 06:45:18 AM
B-52 landing at Oshkosh...

http://youtu.be/CL-JK6HPAuU (http://youtu.be/CL-JK6HPAuU)

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/b-52-makes-challenging-landing-to-visit-oshkosh-on-hist-1719206718 (http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/b-52-makes-challenging-landing-to-visit-oshkosh-on-hist-1719206718)

So they must have had someone on the crew or someone meet them that is rated to repack the parachute. Weird detail I know but I wonder about weird details like that.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 24, 2015, 11:17:01 AM
According to the web sites, there was a USAF ground crew waiting on it.  They also had volunteers assist.  I had the same thoughts.  You don't land an aircraft like that without ground crew on a non-USAF landing site.  I'm sure that they arrived earlier.  What I want to see is if they can take off on an 8k feet runway.  I'm sure that they can, otherwise they wouldn't have landed there.  Probably won't have a lot of fuel and will refuel once airborne.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on July 24, 2015, 11:35:44 AM
Makes sense to have a ground crew meet them. And I be your correct that they took off with no payload, min allowable fuel and refueled mid-air.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Pilgrim on July 24, 2015, 03:47:52 PM
B-52 landing at Oshkosh...

Good B-52 footage Jim.   What was that white & blue prop plane in the video at 2:05?  That looked cool.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on July 27, 2015, 08:12:17 AM
Good B-52 footage Jim.   What was that white & blue prop plane in the video at 2:05?  That looked cool.

Cessna 195, a nice classic from the 40's
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rembrant on July 27, 2015, 05:20:49 PM
This big girl was blowin' around like a kite coming down...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPVE2LY2Xqo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPVE2LY2Xqo)

Nicely done I'd say...

I was in a smaller one a few weeks back that couldn't land due to bad weather...we tried three times, and then they hauled us off to another airport a couple hundred miles inland...lol. (Much smaller plane of course - Bombardier Q400)

These pilots amaze me. Great skills.

And just think of all the people out there that can barely drive with 4 wheels firmly planted on the ground at all times;).

Rem
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Post by: gPink on July 27, 2015, 05:29:25 PM
A definite come to Jesus moment.  :_shudder_Emoticon
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rembrant on July 27, 2015, 05:36:00 PM
A definite come to Jesus moment.  :_shudder_Emoticon

LOL, I know eh? A Triple-7 is a big plane to be rockin' and rollin' like that...

We get weather like that here all the time...but the planes usually divert to an airport further inland.

I wonder if these guys circled for a while and got low on fuel and then had no choice?

Maybe one of the pilots on here can tell us what normal protocol is;).
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Post by: Cholla on July 27, 2015, 08:40:23 PM
Here's some xwind landings for ya in Mexico...complete with 80s music.
 http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEV0FQ67ZVPaQAZZZx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTBybGY3bmpvBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1438079952/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fm.youtube.com%2fwatch%3fv%3dKewDaYDG1i0/RK=0/RS=C5G5pSrO1KBqgZ1PYiE8sRpb9Fc- (http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEV0FQ67ZVPaQAZZZx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTBybGY3bmpvBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1438079952/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fm.youtube.com%2fwatch%3fv%3dKewDaYDG1i0/RK=0/RS=C5G5pSrO1KBqgZ1PYiE8sRpb9Fc-)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on July 29, 2015, 07:26:39 AM
GoPro on a Corsair, whats not to like

http://youtu.be/RxizAawVLoQ (http://youtu.be/RxizAawVLoQ)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 29, 2015, 08:48:54 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: National Aviation Day
Post by: ManWorkinghere on August 19, 2015, 08:56:49 AM
Wednesday is National Aviation Day, so proclaimed by U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt in 1939. The date was chosen to honor the birthday of aviation pioneer Orville Wright.

USA Today story with lots of pics (http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayinthesky/2015/08/19/celebrate-national-aviation-day--these-amazing-photos/31974425/#cx_ab_test_id=12&cx_ab_test_variant=ctrl&cx_art_pos=1&cx_navSource=sechi-travel)
Title: Re: National Aviation Day
Post by: Rhino on August 19, 2015, 10:25:08 AM
Wednesday is National Aviation Day, so proclaimed by U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt in 1939. The date was chosen to honor the birthday of aviation pioneer Orville Wright.

USA Today story with lots of pics (http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayinthesky/2015/08/19/celebrate-national-aviation-day--these-amazing-photos/31974425/#cx_ab_test_id=12&cx_ab_test_variant=ctrl&cx_art_pos=1&cx_navSource=sechi-travel)

Interesting, National Aviation Day proclaimed by US president FDR is a day to recognize aviation in the USA. But most of the pictures in that USA Today article is of foreign airlines, foreign aircraft at a foreign air show. Even a foreign president stepping off an Airbus. Couldn't find a pic of a US president stepping off Air Force One?

Or how about a few pics from here: http://www.eaa.org/en/airventure/eaa-airventure-news-and-multimedia/airventure-2015-photos (http://www.eaa.org/en/airventure/eaa-airventure-news-and-multimedia/airventure-2015-photos)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on August 19, 2015, 10:37:04 AM
+1
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Cholla on August 19, 2015, 11:40:25 AM
They could have killed two birds with one stone by showing Slick Wily steppingoff AF1 as today is his birthday.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on August 19, 2015, 12:44:59 PM
Don't get me wrong, I've go nothing against non-US aircraft and in fact I've always wanted to see the Paris Air Show. Duxford and Farnborough are on my bucket list. Just thought USA Today could have found a few pics closer to home for National Aviation Day.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on August 19, 2015, 01:47:19 PM
planes?

check this out, and also on the main page check out the photos from the past few years of the event....
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=20051.0#new (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=20051.0#new)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 11, 2015, 04:02:05 AM
My favorite aircraft.  Partially filmed at the AF Museum (my favorite museum) in Dayton, OH.

http://youtu.be/Q8hUk5CFFN8 (http://youtu.be/Q8hUk5CFFN8)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Sgt Mac on September 12, 2015, 06:29:04 AM
First 35's arrived at Hill.

http://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/2015/09/03/first-two-f-35s-delivered-hill-afb/71611168/ (http://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/2015/09/03/first-two-f-35s-delivered-hill-afb/71611168/)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 12, 2015, 03:02:12 PM
Can't say that I really like them...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on September 12, 2015, 03:05:56 PM
They look baddass in a utilitarian way. Hope they work as well.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 12, 2015, 03:29:56 PM
Not at first they won't.  It'll take time to get the kinks worked out and by the time that happens there will be a new one coming through unless the new bomber takes all the funds, which I suspect will happen.

Hard to believe that the F-22 is already about 10 years into it's life cycle.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on September 12, 2015, 04:10:15 PM
The utube vids of the F-35 doing short take off and vertical carrier landings are impressive. I haven't look to see what kind of weapons loadout they have.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on September 16, 2015, 06:37:53 AM
Gives me a new perspective on ATC. Oh, and I almost forgot... easy boys!

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11040624_10153173640462939_5930678718670785692_n.jpg?oh=c2f2b1375424842f98ed0b485a3fc041&oe=566C1C6A)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on September 16, 2015, 06:52:13 AM
I had no idea that Northrup build at least 10 of the B-49 flying wings. I thought they just built 1 or 2 prototypes.

(https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/flyingwing-10.jpg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: jettawreck on September 16, 2015, 09:27:28 PM
I had no idea that Northrup build at least 10 of the B-49 flying wings. I thought they just built 1 or 2 prototypes.

(https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/flyingwing-10.jpg)

I count at least eleven in the photo that are outdoors there. Neat photo.
Probably were more....
Aliens took em.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 17, 2015, 05:52:03 AM
So far ahead of their time..  Here's something from Wikipedia on Jack Northrop and the B-2.

Northrop dabbled in real estate and lost much of his personal fortune. In 1976, with his health failing, he felt compelled to communicate to NASA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA) his belief in the low drag high lift concept inherent in the flying wing. NASA replied that the idea had technological merit comforting Northrop that his flying wing concepts hadn't been completely abandoned. By the late 1970s a variety of illnesses had left him unable to walk or speak. Shortly before his death in 1981, he was given clearance to see designs and hold a scale model of the Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-2_Spirit) which shared many of the design features of his YB-35 and YB-49 designs.[7] Northrop reportedly wrote on a sheet of paper "Now I know why God has kept me alive for 25 years". In the Wing Will Fly documentary, B-2 project designer John Cashen says: "As he held this model in his shaking hands, it was as if you could see his entire history with the flying wing passing through his mind." Jack Northrop died 10 months later, on February 18, 1981
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Cholla on September 17, 2015, 06:05:54 AM
Germany had em in the early 40s. And theirs were jet powered.  Junkers had the concept in the teens.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rembrant on September 19, 2015, 05:37:45 AM
Anybody catch this one in the news this week?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/14/travel/ana-star-wars-planes-september-2015/ (http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/14/travel/ana-star-wars-planes-september-2015/)

I'm no Star Wars nut, but this IS pretty cool. I like adding a theme to something that's otherwise commercial or industrial in use.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 19, 2015, 06:09:54 AM
I can't even mention Star Wars around my wife.  She is still miffed that we saw the original movie on our wedding day.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on September 19, 2015, 06:13:45 AM
I can't even mention Star Wars around my wife.  She is still miffed that we saw the original movie on our wedding day.
Why...is she a Trekkie?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rembrant on September 19, 2015, 06:39:50 AM
I can't even mention Star Wars around my wife.  She is still miffed that we saw the original movie on our wedding day.

In 1977? Maybe Smokey & The Bandit or Saturday Night Fever would have been better choices?...LOL.

Rem
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 19, 2015, 07:29:04 AM
Not for me (it's all about me)...  And she isn't a Trekkie and neither am I.  Just liked watching those movies.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 27, 2015, 07:04:34 AM
K-46 Tanker flight.  I don't like that tall tail on it's ass end.  The early B-52s had tall tails like that and had issues with them.  Hopefully it won't be problematic for the new tanker.

http://youtu.be/asAaWyNvxSY (http://youtu.be/asAaWyNvxSY)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: SapperLdr on September 27, 2015, 01:07:02 PM
I don't believe they modified the original 767 tail.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 27, 2015, 01:17:09 PM
They may not have to...   The B-52 D's had issues when they went to lower level flights.  I don't think that the K-46 will be flying that low..
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Bergmen on October 01, 2015, 02:52:06 PM
At the Reno Air Races this year, this is Rare Bear, a highly modified Grumman F-8 Bearcat with a hopped-up Curtis-Wright R3350 engine putting out over 3,000 horsepower (or so I hear). As you can see, the prop diameter is so large it cannot rotate during take-off which would risk a prop strike to the runway and must do a "three point" take off:

(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u580/Bergmen/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/2015%20Reno%20Air%20Races/IMG_4642_zpsa56miopw.jpg) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/Bergmen/media/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/2015%20Reno%20Air%20Races/IMG_4642_zpsa56miopw.jpg.html)

Dan
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on October 01, 2015, 03:32:42 PM
At the Reno Air Races this year, this is Rare Bear, a highly modified Grumman F-8 Bearcat with a hopped-up Curtis-Wright R3350 engine putting out over 3,000 horsepower (or so I hear). As you can see, the prop diameter is so large it cannot rotate during take-off which would risk a prop strike to the runway and must do a "three point" take off:

(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u580/Bergmen/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/2015%20Reno%20Air%20Races/IMG_4642_zpsa56miopw.jpg) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/Bergmen/media/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/2015%20Reno%20Air%20Races/IMG_4642_zpsa56miopw.jpg.html)

Dan

Sweet! I first saw that airplane on display in Tucson in 1974 or 75 when Lyle Shelton was sponsored by a bank there. Great to see it still racing 40 years later.

Oh, and BTW, welcome to the forum!!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on October 23, 2015, 12:33:44 PM
The B-36 makes the B-29 looks like a toy.

(https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/B-36aarrivalcarswell1948-640x428.jpg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 23, 2015, 01:31:27 PM
And that one was the prototype XB-36.  The cockpit was changed and they added 4 J-47 engines for the D models on-wards.  4 remain.  Dayton, Omaha, and Pima have B-36s.   Castle AFB has the only RB left in existence.  That RB came from my Dad's old squadron in Ellsworth.  The wings were 7ft thick at the root.  They could actually crawl into the wings and do some maintenance in flight if need be.  The turrets were modeled after the B-29 and could be withdrawn into the fuselage.  There was a crew tube from the front to the rear.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on October 23, 2015, 02:51:08 PM
I've seen the one at Pima. One impressive aircraft!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: SapperLdr on October 23, 2015, 05:43:39 PM
The B-36 makes the B-29 looks like a toy.

(https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/B-36aarrivalcarswell1948-640x428.jpg)

Very cool pic!
 :hail:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 24, 2015, 05:32:33 AM
Truly a remarkable aircraft.  It and General LeMay scared the  :censored: out of the Russians.  While very slow by our standards (they could actually stay aloft nearly 48 hours) without refueling.  They could out fly the early jets in altitude and turning ability.  However, by the mid-1950s their effectiveness was waning.   They converted all the RB's to carry more bombs at that time.  What they did do was buy time until the B-52s came on line and became effective and more scary.  SAC had competitions between the Bomb Wings and the 36's could deliver payloads with more precision than the early 52's.  That did change as time went on.

The RB's were used for photo reconnaissance and actually were able to overfly Russia believe it or not.  The last 36's were turned into tin cans in the late 50's.  Their engines were used on the 97's and 124's so they did not go to waste.  My dad's aircraft was one of the very last ones to be retired as it was used for nuclear tests in the Pacific.  It was part of the Megaton Blasters, 4925 Test Group (Atomic) out of Kirtland AFB.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Pilgrim on October 24, 2015, 05:55:05 AM
Here is another big comparison, AN-225 v. 747.
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/Pilgrim32/Misc/Antonov%20An-225%20v%20747_zpsycq3rgyl.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pilgrim32/media/Misc/Antonov%20An-225%20v%20747_zpsycq3rgyl.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 28, 2015, 02:21:31 PM
XB-70 rolls again...I helped fund this.

http://youtu.be/E5dvQ-sVbmM (http://youtu.be/E5dvQ-sVbmM)

More info on the new hanger and what it will contain.

http://youtu.be/wv1g8qlkXEU (http://youtu.be/wv1g8qlkXEU)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on October 28, 2015, 03:04:32 PM
Oh man I have got to get to Dayton!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 28, 2015, 03:15:45 PM
I cry every time I go there.  It's the 8th wonder of the world...  Takes several days if you want to see everything.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 06, 2015, 07:03:52 AM
C-130, It's not sexy, just the best friggen work horse ever put in the air. Well I guess a DC3/C47 could compete for that title but still...

http://www.facebook.com/breedofspeed/videos/389033937974099/ (http://www.facebook.com/breedofspeed/videos/389033937974099/)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 06, 2015, 08:25:57 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/10247314_784359438356609_1179930658094350243_n.jpg?oh=d20cab2888db13ad09dd132fafbeeb25&oe=56F9EB38)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: SapperLdr on November 08, 2015, 04:24:49 PM
Now for something different.  Some uniqueness there.  Fixed gun on the right side of the fuselage. The tandem seat setup is a drawback.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 08, 2015, 05:02:02 PM
I'm thinking Russian...so any drawbacks are good.  Good pics.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 09, 2015, 08:41:20 AM
Interesting counter rotating setup. Looks like 6' or so between rotors. Seems like it would be a complex and less reliable system but no tail rotor so I guess that cancels each other out.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Bergmen on November 09, 2015, 06:26:30 PM
Not sure if I posted this before. A field of nearly new P-38s (most of them had less than 20 hours on them) at Kingman Air base in early 1946:

(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u580/Bergmen/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/Lockheed%20P-38%20Lightning/P-38atKingman_zps4f07d4fb.jpg) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/Bergmen/media/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/Lockheed%20P-38%20Lightning/P-38atKingman_zps4f07d4fb.jpg.html)

You could get one for $1,250.00 and fly it home.

Dan
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 10, 2015, 06:25:35 AM
More info on the above...

http://kingmanhistoricdistrict.com/points-of-interest/army-air-field-museum/index.htm (http://kingmanhistoricdistrict.com/points-of-interest/army-air-field-museum/index.htm)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 10, 2015, 06:26:19 AM
Not sure if I posted this before. A field of nearly new P-38s (most of them had less than 20 hours on them) at Kingman Air base in early 1946:

(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u580/Bergmen/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/Lockheed%20P-38%20Lightning/P-38atKingman_zps4f07d4fb.jpg) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/Bergmen/media/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/Lockheed%20P-38%20Lightning/P-38atKingman_zps4f07d4fb.jpg.html)

You could get one for $1,250.00 and fly it home.

Dan

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(Now there are only 3 or 4 left flying in the world. :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 10, 2015, 07:03:18 AM
This is what happens when aircraft are obsoleted.  They are broken up and sold for scrap.   But there are museums and good people that continue to show and fly them.

You may not know this but the last flying Vulcan bomber just retired.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11636534/Worlds-last-flying-Vulcan-bomber-prepares-for-goodbye-season.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11636534/Worlds-last-flying-Vulcan-bomber-prepares-for-goodbye-season.html)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 10, 2015, 08:32:43 AM
http://youtu.be/gCYSWyHDpfU (http://youtu.be/gCYSWyHDpfU)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 01, 2015, 09:48:08 AM
Would like to have been on that beach as a B-36 makes a low pass:

(http://www.vintagewings.ca/Portals/0/Vintage_Stories/NewStories-C/Lower%20than%20a%20snake/Lowdown36.jpg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 01, 2015, 10:03:44 AM
This is kinda sorta what it would sound like but without the pressure wave...  The one in the picture is an early model B.  It does not have the 4 jet engines.  That started with the Ds.

http://youtu.be/hN2gYduKeW0 (http://youtu.be/hN2gYduKeW0)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 07, 2015, 12:55:52 PM
http://youtu.be/QVwbGhDYKtU (http://youtu.be/QVwbGhDYKtU)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 07, 2015, 12:59:40 PM
 :rotflmao: Hopefully that was an autobot, not a decepticon!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: tonedeaf1 on December 07, 2015, 10:19:23 PM
Here is a link to the current EAA magazine cover, a great picture of a Travel Air:

http://sportaviation.epubxp.com/t/144253-eaa-sport-aviation (http://sportaviation.epubxp.com/t/144253-eaa-sport-aviation)

(Hope you can open this link.)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 08, 2015, 05:40:48 AM
Link works fine, Thanks!

The AFA (Air Force Association ) has their magazine open to all.  Here is the link.

http://secure.afa.org/joinafa/AFMag1215/AF_December2015.html (http://secure.afa.org/joinafa/AFMag1215/AF_December2015.html)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 14, 2015, 05:43:48 AM
Trilateral exercises at Langley AFB...  US, RAF, and French aircraft.

http://youtu.be/v8QrriDzAZY (http://youtu.be/v8QrriDzAZY)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 23, 2015, 09:16:48 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12366473_1218357864846456_7399111095412638815_n.jpg?oh=6bda88aac097ce0b265779a8028f2008&oe=56DA6440)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: just gone on December 23, 2015, 10:16:19 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12366473_1218357864846456_7399111095412638815_n.jpg?oh=6bda88aac097ce0b265779a8028f2008&oe=56DA6440)

Sorry to burst anyone's holiday bubble, but that photo has been photo shopped (but yeah, I like it alot).
Everyone knows that cold fusion doesn't need jet fuel.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091205233544.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091205233544.htm)
 The important part of the story is that if we keep our chimneys too clean there won't be enough raw material (carbon) for the magic sack (E.B.!) to make the toys. Feel free to use that as an excuse to once again ignore that nagging feeling that maybe you should hire one of those expensive chimney sweeps to clean your chimney. Just let Santa do it and thus do your part (by doing nothing  :thumbs:) to keep the Christmas magic alive. (but just to be safe better get one of these  (http://www.northlineexpress.com/chimfex-fire-suppressant-4145.html?fee=11&fep=4145&utm_source=googleproducts&utm_medium=feed&utm_content=cse&utm_term=5OR-3412&gclid=CPG7oIa78skCFQqpaQodL60Ksw) :) )

Apologies for the chimney talk in an aircraft thread.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 23, 2015, 10:54:23 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm8fI9hTIqc
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 23, 2015, 10:57:30 AM
Seasons Greetings from this side of the pond

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C0OI99zL3xI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MZmrnwb4g8k

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on December 23, 2015, 12:51:08 PM
Sorry to burst anyone's holiday bubble, but that photo has been photo shopped (but yeah, I like it alot).
Everyone knows that cold fusion doesn't need jet fuel.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091205233544.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091205233544.htm)
 The important part of the story is that if we keep our chimneys too clean there won't be enough raw material (carbon) for the magic sack (E.B.!) to make the toys. Feel free to use that as an excuse to once again ignore that nagging feeling that maybe you should hire one of those expensive chimney sweeps to clean your chimney. Just let Santa do it and thus do your part (by doing nothing  :thumbs:) to keep the Christmas magic alive. (but just to be safe better get one of these  (http://www.northlineexpress.com/chimfex-fire-suppressant-4145.html?fee=11&fep=4145&utm_source=googleproducts&utm_medium=feed&utm_content=cse&utm_term=5OR-3412&gclid=CPG7oIa78skCFQqpaQodL60Ksw) :) )

Apologies for the chimney talk in an aircraft thread.

Say it aint so! I was wondering why the fuel probe wasn't going into the reindeer's mouth delivering feed corn.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 23, 2015, 02:26:51 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 25, 2015, 07:45:37 AM
B-52 Pilot flies with late father's fighter squadron.

http://youtu.be/gjJsrNwc5OA (http://youtu.be/gjJsrNwc5OA)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 25, 2015, 10:31:17 AM
Linebacker II....a remembrance of those lost.

http://media.defense.gov/2015/Dec/21/2001327872/-1/-1/0/151218-F-KN424-040.JPG (http://media.defense.gov/2015/Dec/21/2001327872/-1/-1/0/151218-F-KN424-040.JPG)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: tweeter55 on December 29, 2015, 06:52:02 PM
http://youtu.be/poy2F9HdWqc (http://youtu.be/poy2F9HdWqc)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: ManWorkinghere on December 30, 2015, 08:16:42 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12366473_1218357864846456_7399111095412638815_n.jpg?oh=6bda88aac097ce0b265779a8028f2008&oe=56DA6440)
Sorry to burst anyone's holiday bubble, but that photo has been photo shopped (but yeah, I like it alot).


FM, I thought you were going to show how the original flight picture is shown refueling from left to right because of the Coriolis Effect.

:-)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on December 31, 2015, 11:42:25 AM
Charlie and others, if you are linking to Youtube, once you paste in the site, erase the 's' after 'http'.  For some reason, our site hates that 's' and won't 'show' the vid on the post unless you click on the link.

http://youtu.be/U6Jw8ZrTaIg (http://youtu.be/U6Jw8ZrTaIg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: just gone on January 02, 2016, 07:02:58 PM
FM, I thought you were going to show how the original flight picture is shown refueling from left to right because of the Coriolis Effect.

:-)

;D

Well yes, I would have if it were not for the cold fusion jet packs mentioned in the scientific document. However those not withstanding, the photo's depicted direction of travel appears correct for north of the equator Coriolis Effect. Yes? Of course I assumed it to be just before sunset Christmas eve, if on the other hand that is refueling on Christmas morning at sunrise and Santa is headed back home after a long night's work....well that changes everything. ...ahhh.. but then there are those cold fusion jet packs...so I guess that makes it moot.  :-\
Maybe we should table this until the photo resurfaces next year.  :-X
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on May 12, 2016, 04:32:51 PM
A link that some of you may find of interest.........

http://www.vulcantothesky.org/ (http://www.vulcantothesky.org/)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on May 12, 2016, 05:31:42 PM
I get updates on that regularly...

I thought you meant this:

http://youtu.be/Xk6Y79vduEE (http://youtu.be/Xk6Y79vduEE)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on May 13, 2016, 08:35:55 AM
Only lucky Jug pilot!

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13177187_10207831545885036_810820943023349727_n.jpg?oh=a44d8c6d5099d05c3102504ea2817d7a&oe=57E6A4FC)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on May 13, 2016, 04:25:42 PM
Wow
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: jettawreck on May 13, 2016, 07:09:23 PM
I had a bunch of Warbird aircraft parts that came with some other items I bought at an auction. I've sold some of the stuff but finally found a buyer for the lot of it. He came from Indiana and I brought the stuff down to South St Paul Flemming Field were the Commemerative Airforce wing for Mn gather. Some cool old planes that went up that day and many more under reconstruction in the hangar. I learned what some of the parts I had belonged to. The buyer is a member of the Indiana CAF and was there to get some check out hours in the yellow trainer.
Nothing sounds like a big radial engine firing up.

I had a cylinder and head for the Kinker 5 cylinder radial in the little Ryan trainer.
A cylinder for a inline inverted Ranger engine.
Carbs for a similar twin PW radial as well as a main crankshaft.
Carb for a V-12 Allison
All in all, it was a big trailer load for not much more than the price of the gas. Filled his truck with boxes two layers (and more)  deep. Hope to keep some history flying.
Pics:
1) B25(?) firing up second engine
2) Ryan trainer
3) I forget, but 600hp PW radial
Click on the pic to make full size image.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on May 13, 2016, 11:43:22 PM
I think the 3rd is a Harvard. But I could be wrong  😃
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on May 16, 2016, 07:58:00 AM
I think the 3rd is a Harvard. But I could be wrong  😃

Hard to tell the difference between a T6 and a Harvard. Saw a post that showed a different rear canopy but this one has a single piece rear canopy that was not original on either.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on May 18, 2016, 07:19:56 PM
Enjoy..........

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkqbUahsiHg (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkqbUahsiHg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on May 18, 2016, 07:21:17 PM
Forgotten Warriors..........

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qexMo-2ZLos (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qexMo-2ZLos)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on May 19, 2016, 07:42:24 AM
Spitfires!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3598540/The-Photographer-captures-pin-sharp-images-final-55-airworthy-Spitfires-using-just-handheld-camera.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3598540/The-Photographer-captures-pin-sharp-images-final-55-airworthy-Spitfires-using-just-handheld-camera.html)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: RFH87_Connie on May 19, 2016, 07:53:18 AM
The B-52 is always one of my favorites.  They're more like a marvelous mechanical work of art nowadays.  Sad to hear one just went down in Guam during take-off.  Everyone survived the crash at least. :grouphug:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on May 19, 2016, 09:07:24 AM
The B-52 is always one of my favorites.  They're more like a marvelous mechanical work of art nowadays.  Sad to hear one just went down in Guam during take-off.  Everyone survived the crash at least. :grouphug:

I can't find any report that specifies if the crew ejected or rode it in. Since it was an aborted take off, I'm guessing they rode it in. The nav/bomb compartment ejects downward and needs a min altitude to eject. If they rode it in, miracle they all got out uninjured.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on May 19, 2016, 01:35:51 PM
Spitfires!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3598540/The-Photographer-captures-pin-sharp-images-final-55-airworthy-Spitfires-using-just-handheld-camera.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3598540/The-Photographer-captures-pin-sharp-images-final-55-airworthy-Spitfires-using-just-handheld-camera.html)

Stunning 🍻👍😃
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on May 19, 2016, 01:55:00 PM
Stunning

Give me goose bumps scrolling thru those pics.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: DaddyFlip on May 19, 2016, 02:08:00 PM
The B-52 is always one of my favorites.  They're more like a marvelous mechanical work of art nowadays.  Sad to hear one just went down in Guam during take-off.  Everyone survived the crash at least. :grouphug:

I vote B-52 also.  I've lived relatively close to Barksdale AFB my whole life and when I drive on I-20 through Bossier City, its a 50/50 chance they will be doing training passes.  They are giants of the air and it's difficult to accept how big they really are when flying over.  I've always wanted to take a tour of one and I've just never done it.

When I was a kid, I was always enamored with the von Richtofen Fokker triplane and I had a balsa wood glider made like one.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on May 19, 2016, 02:10:48 PM
Give me goose bumps scrolling thru those pics.

Know what yer mean ................so sharp, clean...........you can tell if the screw heads are in line !
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: DaddyFlip on May 19, 2016, 02:13:47 PM
Spitfires!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3598540/The-Photographer-captures-pin-sharp-images-final-55-airworthy-Spitfires-using-just-handheld-camera.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3598540/The-Photographer-captures-pin-sharp-images-final-55-airworthy-Spitfires-using-just-handheld-camera.html)

Book is released on Amazon May 24 and is available for pre-order now - $36.35

http://www.amazon.com/Spitfire-Legend-Lives-General-Aviation/dp/1472815491/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463688713&sr=8-1&keywords=spitfire+the+legend (http://www.amazon.com/Spitfire-Legend-Lives-General-Aviation/dp/1472815491/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463688713&sr=8-1&keywords=spitfire+the+legend)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: O.C. on May 19, 2016, 02:52:15 PM
Spitfires!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3598540/The-Photographer-captures-pin-sharp-images-final-55-airworthy-Spitfires-using-just-handheld-camera.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3598540/The-Photographer-captures-pin-sharp-images-final-55-airworthy-Spitfires-using-just-handheld-camera.html)


WOW...stunning pictures thanks for sharing  :hail: 
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on May 19, 2016, 04:53:13 PM

WOW...stunning pictures thanks for sharing  :hail: 

Steady up OC.........over here you have to save all that  :hail: stuff for the man in the steel pants and shinney sword thingy .................... :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on May 19, 2016, 08:21:19 PM
I vote B-52 also.  I've lived relatively close to Barksdale AFB my whole life and when I drive on I-20 through Bossier City, its a 50/50 chance they will be doing training passes.  They are giants of the air and it's difficult to accept how big they really are when flying over.  I've always wanted to take a tour of one and I've just never done it.

When I was a kid, I was always enamored with the von Richtofen Fokker triplane and I had a balsa wood glider made like one.

When I was a kid at Westover AFB (99th BW) MA, in the mid 60s, my dad would take us to the end of one of the runways and we would feel them land and take off.  Brings tears to my eyes thinking about it now. :'(   And these were tall tails, D models with Vietnam camo colors.  I'd give anything to relive that with my father.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on May 24, 2016, 11:55:35 AM
Canberra to the Sky...

http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/778/82/Latest-Press-Release.html (http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/778/82/Latest-Press-Release.html)

and more detail on Canberras...

https://mxm.mxmfb.com/rsps/m/c6Sey_1zYWGkfoVrWyjh6L9jK2S8ud78F-SJjhJ-xAw (https://mxm.mxmfb.com/rsps/m/c6Sey_1zYWGkfoVrWyjh6L9jK2S8ud78F-SJjhJ-xAw)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on May 24, 2016, 01:16:55 PM
Canberra to the Sky...

http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/778/82/Latest-Press-Release.html (http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/778/82/Latest-Press-Release.html)

and more detail on Canberras...

https://mxm.mxmfb.com/rsps/m/c6Sey_1zYWGkfoVrWyjh6L9jK2S8ud78F-SJjhJ-xAw (https://mxm.mxmfb.com/rsps/m/c6Sey_1zYWGkfoVrWyjh6L9jK2S8ud78F-SJjhJ-xAw)

A neat blog I ran across in regards to Chuck Yeager's time commanding a wing at Clark with B-57's and how he had Canberra outfitted without tip tanks but with internal aux fuel tank in the bomb bay and was so fast, F-100's with external fuel tanks had to use afterburner to stay with him.

http://edrider.blogspot.com/2011/07/chuck-yeager-when-i-was-assigned-to-405.html (http://edrider.blogspot.com/2011/07/chuck-yeager-when-i-was-assigned-to-405.html)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on May 24, 2016, 02:02:07 PM
Really?  I read the article but waxing and putting the tank in the fuselage I find hard to believe that an F-100 had trouble keeping up with him in a B-57.

B-57 top speed is 598 with cruise at 476.  Thrust to weight ratio is .36
F-100 top speed is 877 with cruise at 587. Thrust to weight ration is .55

Kind of hard to believe that wax and removing the drop tanks could affect the speed that much, but anything I guess is possible.  And I'm a bomber person, I want the bombers to be better....
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on May 24, 2016, 02:25:11 PM
Really?  I read the article but waxing and putting the tank in the fuselage I find hard to believe that an F-100 had trouble keeping up with him in a B-57.

B-57 top speed is 598 with cruise at 476.  Thrust to weight ratio is .36
F-100 top speed is 877 with cruise at 587. Thrust to weight ration is .55

Kind of hard to believe that wax and removing the drop tanks could affect the speed that much, but anything I guess is possible.

IDK, at 500mph+, that's a lot of drag hanging out there. I had a friend that flew F-15's, F-16's in the Air Force, then went to a National Guard unit and for a short time flew F-106's before they transitioned to F-16's. He said he loved the 106 because it carried its ordinance internally. Said he preferred the 106 clean to the 16 dirty. Since the B-57 doesn't have after burner and I would also assume has longer range, I could believe that Yeager pushed up the cruise speed at the expense of fuel to make his point. In any case, still a good story  ;)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on May 24, 2016, 02:26:12 PM
Absolutely!  Ferry range on an F-100 is about 1994 miles vs 2720 on a B-57, but I'm sure that's using cruising speed or less.  The F-100s using after burners would shorten their ferry range enormously.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on May 25, 2016, 08:55:05 AM
Speaking of Canberra's...

(http://www.vintagewings.ca/Portals/0/Vintage_Stories/NewStories-C/Lower%20than%20a%20snake/LowdownTitle.jpg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on May 25, 2016, 03:17:52 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4IS35H8a10E (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4IS35H8a10E)

The high flyer

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7gK7QOeN0 (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7gK7QOeN0)

Hawker Hunter

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=weV-9Sj8F5Y (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=weV-9Sj8F5Y)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on May 25, 2016, 03:23:34 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4IS35H8a10E (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4IS35H8a10E)

The high flyer

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7gK7QOeN0 (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7gK7QOeN0)

The cockpit on the Canberra in this video is off center. I never noticed that before.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on May 25, 2016, 04:10:44 PM
The cockpit on the Canberra in this video is off center. I never noticed that before.

The PR9 had this feature..........not sure why
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on May 28, 2016, 06:08:39 AM


A touching aircraft related story.....  :salute:

 http://www.stripes.com/news/veterans/wwii-b-17-gunner-revisits-england-dies-at-battle-of-britain-bunker-1.411512 (http://www.stripes.com/news/veterans/wwii-b-17-gunner-revisits-england-dies-at-battle-of-britain-bunker-1.411512)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on May 28, 2016, 04:28:42 PM
Yeah, I saw that on FB.  Makes you think.  I haven't been back there since 1968.  Planning on going next year.   We had a large presence on the Isle...  Not so much anymore.  Mildenhall is closing as are some other bases. 
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Pilgrim on May 30, 2016, 07:11:03 AM

National Air Tour of Historic WWII Aircraft 2016 is underway.      http://www.airpowersquadron.org/ (http://www.airpowersquadron.org/)

B-29 Superfortress Fifi for Jim.      http://www.airpowersquadron.org/# (http://www.airpowersquadron.org/#)!b29-schedule/c1yws
 
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on May 30, 2016, 10:43:41 AM
Ah yes, the B-29....little brother to the B-36.  Lots of B-29 stuff integrated into the B-36.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on May 31, 2016, 06:45:08 AM
Fifi soon to be joined in the air by Doc. A second airworthy B-29 named "Doc" just received an airworthy cert. First flight eminent.

http://www.b-29doc.com/2016/05/20/faa-deems-b-29-doc-airworthy-first-flight-imminent/ (http://www.b-29doc.com/2016/05/20/faa-deems-b-29-doc-airworthy-first-flight-imminent/)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on May 31, 2016, 04:20:12 PM
This is good news.............A pair of classic birds will look and sound beautiful 🍻👍😃
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Pilgrim on June 11, 2016, 12:24:49 PM
Went fishing this morning on the Merrimack River -
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/Pilgrim32/Fishing/DSCN0856_zpszamhq1dl.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pilgrim32/media/Fishing/DSCN0856_zpszamhq1dl.jpg.html)

About 10 AM I hear a distant rumble which I knew was the big girl in town this weekend.  Fifi flew right over me a few thousand feet up.  What a sound from those engines.
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/Pilgrim32/Fishing/DSCN0852_zpshevqkzcu.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pilgrim32/media/Fishing/DSCN0852_zpshevqkzcu.jpg.html)

Then a little while later this one flew over
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/Pilgrim32/Fishing/DSCN0858_zpspj8hnn7h.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pilgrim32/media/Fishing/DSCN0858_zpspj8hnn7h.jpg.html)

Then the rain came and I went home.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 11, 2016, 03:34:14 PM
Looks like the smaller of the two is sporting D-Day colors.  I can't tell what the larger one is.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on June 13, 2016, 06:35:07 AM
Went fishing this morning on the Merrimack River -
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/Pilgrim32/Fishing/DSCN0856_zpszamhq1dl.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pilgrim32/media/Fishing/DSCN0856_zpszamhq1dl.jpg.html)

About 10 AM I hear a distant rumble which I knew was the big girl in town this weekend.  Fifi flew right over me a few thousand feet up.  What a sound from those engines.
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/Pilgrim32/Fishing/DSCN0852_zpshevqkzcu.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pilgrim32/media/Fishing/DSCN0852_zpshevqkzcu.jpg.html)

Then a little while later this one flew over
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/Pilgrim32/Fishing/DSCN0858_zpspj8hnn7h.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pilgrim32/media/Fishing/DSCN0858_zpspj8hnn7h.jpg.html)

Then the rain came and I went home.

I don't know what the fish is but the 4 engine bomber looks like a B-29. If so, it is either Fifi or slight possibility it is the newly restored "Doc". The second is a Beech 18 I think.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/B-29_in_flight.jpg)

(http://barrieaircraft.com/images/beech-18-05.jpg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 13, 2016, 06:57:14 AM
I think you're right on with the B-29.  It's got a narrow fuselage...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on June 13, 2016, 07:01:05 AM
I think you're right on with the B-29.  It's got a narrow fuselage...

Yup and long, high aspect ratio wings. Rare sight these days to randomly see one flying over.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on June 13, 2016, 07:04:49 AM
Confirmed! Fifi was in Nashua this weekend, June 8-12. And on the same tour is a Beech 18 with invasion stripes.

http://www.airpowersquadron.org/# (http://www.airpowersquadron.org/#)!b29-schedule/c1yws
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Bergmen on June 13, 2016, 07:46:48 PM
The Beech D-18 was actually a C-45 (military version). Basically the same thing. I would LOVE to go for a ride in a B-29, the price is very reasonable ($570.00). I went for a ride in a B-17 once when one happened to stop by in Ukiah (Aluminum Overcast). I just happened to see it turning in on final and I couldn't believe my eyes.

I ran home and robbed the safe of a few Ben Franklins and headed back to the airport. I neglected to wear ear plugs and the noise was beyond the threshold of pain. Ultra vibration, the racket and a super bumpy, windy day added up to an amazing experience that I will never forget. It was awesome!

A view from the bombardiers position:

(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u580/Bergmen/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/B-17/IMG_2691_zps133b3eca.jpg) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/Bergmen/media/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/B-17/IMG_2691_zps133b3eca.jpg.html)

A WWII B-24 Pilot that sat with me during the ride:

(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u580/Bergmen/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/B-17/IMG_2680_zps8e2e8747.jpg) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/Bergmen/media/Aviation-Aircraft%20and%20Spacecraft/B-17/IMG_2680_zps8e2e8747.jpg.html)

Dan
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on June 14, 2016, 06:43:52 AM
The Beech D-18 was actually a C-45 (military version). Basically the same thing. I would LOVE to go for a ride in a B-29, the price is very reasonable ($570.00). I went for a ride in a B-17 once when one happened to stop by in Ukiah (Aluminum Overcast). I just happened to see it turning in on final and I couldn't believe my eyes.

I ran home and robbed the safe of a few Ben Franklins and headed back to the airport. I neglected to wear ear plugs and the noise was beyond the threshold of pain. Ultra vibration, the racket and a super bumpy, windy day added up to an amazing experience that I will never forget. It was awesome!


Me too! Aluminum Overcast was in Colorado Springs and on an impulse I bought 2 spots for my son and I. LOVED it!

Bombardier's seat.

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10399976_1023431442784_6938287_n.jpg?oh=ac2ff5959b5e7e81863ac08d6da60eca&oe=57C2C852)

And shooting down Messerschmidt's

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10399976_1023431482785_5975809_n.jpg?oh=4467ad5eee7ecf072879d6c367822163&oe=57CF1D57)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 14, 2016, 03:39:01 PM
Saw a C-121 Constellation today at a private airport in Bridgewater, VA.   Couldn't get close enough or stop to take a better picture.  I nearly ran off the road when I saw it.  Here's some background...

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/columbine-ii-arrives-home.html (http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/columbine-ii-arrives-home.html)

I'll post my picture later but it doesn't do justice to the aircraft...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on June 14, 2016, 03:45:11 PM
Saw a C-121 Constellation today at a private airport in Bridgewater, VA.   Couldn't get close enough or stop to take a better picture.  I nearly ran off the road when I saw it.  Here's some background...

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/columbine-ii-arrives-home.html (http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/columbine-ii-arrives-home.html)

I'll post my picture later but it doesn't do justice to the aircraft...

Awesome! I've never seen one in the air.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 14, 2016, 03:48:27 PM
Tis a thing of beauty..
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 17, 2016, 11:23:50 AM
Vulcan attack on the Falklands...

http://youtu.be/X2Yl8ntVS-4 (http://youtu.be/X2Yl8ntVS-4)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on June 17, 2016, 03:04:07 PM
Always worth watching......again.........and again........🍻👍😃
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 17, 2016, 03:37:13 PM
That's my feeling as well.  Gives me goosebumps.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on June 18, 2016, 03:41:39 PM
Blackburn Buccaneer Enjoy............

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cK6V4Kt_Ejw (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cK6V4Kt_Ejw)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jnoUPaMJR24 (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jnoUPaMJR24)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tz3ECzpu6CQ (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tz3ECzpu6CQ)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C4vkBWLmnZA (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C4vkBWLmnZA)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=46a-7N_13Sk (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=46a-7N_13Sk)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AuYwOEF5xag (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AuYwOEF5xag)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TsbvmMGNY3Y (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TsbvmMGNY3Y)




Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: tonedeaf1 on June 20, 2016, 06:28:04 AM
Here is a eclectic and interesting look at a collection of different aircraft.

http://www.odometer.com/lifestyle/12497/23-breathtaking-photos-of-aircraft-in-action/?_fc=12497&utm_campaign=od-ysa-d-us-ba6eba3c&utm_source=ysa&_fcs=315909#slide/0 (http://www.odometer.com/lifestyle/12497/23-breathtaking-photos-of-aircraft-in-action/?_fc=12497&utm_campaign=od-ysa-d-us-ba6eba3c&utm_source=ysa&_fcs=315909#slide/0)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on June 20, 2016, 12:34:18 PM
Neat😃
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on June 21, 2016, 07:07:32 AM
I knew Germany had some captured Mustangs but I've never seen this picture before with 3 in formation.

(http://historycollection.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/p-51-mustang2.jpg)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on June 23, 2016, 03:46:33 PM
Beautiful Bird...........


(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh490/CharlieA380/image_zps1xkaah3e.jpeg)


Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 24, 2016, 05:19:15 AM
Indeed!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on June 24, 2016, 06:22:27 AM
If you want to ride in Just Jane we need to be booking now Jim !

http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/lancaster-taxy-rides/?gclid=CMTetrLTwM0CFXMz0wodZz0Ovw (http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/lancaster-taxy-rides/?gclid=CMTetrLTwM0CFXMz0wodZz0Ovw)

(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh490/CharlieA380/image_zpsaxfotakz.jpeg)[/URL]
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: SapperLdr on June 24, 2016, 04:32:56 PM
One big fire truck.   
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 24, 2016, 05:43:01 PM
They need more of those in California.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 25, 2016, 03:50:09 AM
Doc B-29

http://www.b-29doc.com/ (http://www.b-29doc.com/)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on June 25, 2016, 05:58:34 AM
That's great news.......another iconic warbird going back to its natural environment 😃
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 26, 2016, 05:58:18 AM
From this....

http://youtu.be/gnTJPTuGkMU (http://youtu.be/gnTJPTuGkMU)

To this......

http://youtu.be/bwMG17xhz44 (http://youtu.be/bwMG17xhz44)

If this doesn't give you goosebumps...............nothing will.  In fact, it brought a tear to my eye.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: T Cro ® on June 26, 2016, 07:57:36 AM
If this doesn't give you goosebumps...............nothing will.  In fact, it brought a tear to my eye.

Thanks Jim...

Such an amazing resurrection, I would have never guessed that such a weathered heap of alum could ever be made air worthy again....

I've said before that my father was a Crew Chief on a B29 called Heavenly Laden; and for as much as I love vintage war birds I've never so much as seen a B29 in person...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 26, 2016, 10:53:39 AM
Neither have I...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on June 26, 2016, 05:31:17 PM
IWM have a B29 in the American Hanger.............a big beautiful bird when you get close up and personnal

http://www.iwm.org.uk/exhibitions/iwm-duxford/american-air-museum (http://www.iwm.org.uk/exhibitions/iwm-duxford/american-air-museum)



Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: T Cro ® on June 26, 2016, 08:08:03 PM
Neither have I...

Funny how they are such rare birds today... Pretty much everyone has seen, touched or even flown in a B17  which is much older...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 27, 2016, 05:21:16 AM
I did see one of those in the air near Columbus Ohio some years back.  My wife was with me and I kept on watching the bird instead of the road.  I kept on getting my head whacked to keep watching the traffic instead of the B-17.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on June 27, 2016, 07:20:50 AM
IWM have a B29 in the American Hanger.............a big beautiful bird when you get close up and personnal

http://www.iwm.org.uk/exhibitions/iwm-duxford/american-air-museum (http://www.iwm.org.uk/exhibitions/iwm-duxford/american-air-museum)

Before the Pueblo Air Museum (http://www.pwam.org (http://www.pwam.org)) was opened, all of the aircraft was just parked off the ramp and you could just go into the B-29. I was able to climb around the entire aircraft on multiple occasions. Pueblo CO was one of my destinations for the proverbial $100 hamburger. But in my case with a 7AC sipping 5 gal/hour it was more like a $50 hamburger.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 08, 2016, 02:42:30 PM
First flight scheduled for B-29 Doc at McConnell AFB in Witchita July 17.  Wish I could see it but it's a bit far away.  Hopefully there will be someone putting it on YouTube.

http://www.b-29doc.com/2016/07/08/first-flight-scheduled-for-b-29-doc/ (http://www.b-29doc.com/2016/07/08/first-flight-scheduled-for-b-29-doc/)

Video of Doc is about at the 1:30 mark.

http://youtu.be/EsSTzCt0SQw (http://youtu.be/EsSTzCt0SQw)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Pilgrim on July 11, 2016, 05:04:35 PM
Link to E2C Hawkeye aircraft carrier landing(?) footage.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/07/10/uss-eisenhower-hawkeye-plane-landing-accident-orig-bpb.cnn (http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/07/10/uss-eisenhower-hawkeye-plane-landing-accident-orig-bpb.cnn)

Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 12, 2016, 08:32:12 AM
Geez, what a save!  :thumbs: :hail:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 17, 2016, 04:42:06 AM
B-29 Doc first flight web cast...I'll be on the road, unfortunately and won't be able to see it live..  8:15 am CST approximate

http://www.b-29doc.com/2016/07/17/first-flight-webcast/ (http://www.b-29doc.com/2016/07/17/first-flight-webcast/)

Action starts about 47:00 and the aircraft takes off at 1:47:00 in to the video.  Well worth watching.


http://youtu.be/VNckztvXU3I (http://youtu.be/VNckztvXU3I)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on July 18, 2016, 11:16:12 AM
AWESOME!!!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 18, 2016, 12:10:20 PM
I thought so as well!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on July 18, 2016, 12:44:06 PM
It's pretty clear that they were taking a slow and methodical approach to the whole rebuild and testing. Nobody wanted another Kee Bird.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 18, 2016, 01:41:44 PM
For those unaware of Kee Bird...

http://youtu.be/PpR2S_gu5I8 (http://youtu.be/PpR2S_gu5I8)

 :'(
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on July 19, 2016, 07:02:14 AM
I need this T-shirt

(http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-50863389838911/pigsfly-1.gif)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on July 19, 2016, 07:28:41 AM
http://www.rangerup.com/pigsfly.html (http://www.rangerup.com/pigsfly.html)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 19, 2016, 09:03:42 AM
Seems like the AF is more on keeping them and replacing them with other than the F-35..

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/03/15/could-this-airplane-replace-the-a-10-warthog.aspx (http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/03/15/could-this-airplane-replace-the-a-10-warthog.aspx)

Seems a bit on the light weight side and no BFG.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-air-force-initiative-to-replace-the-a-10-warthog-is-1771018719 (http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-air-force-initiative-to-replace-the-a-10-warthog-is-1771018719)

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a20376/a-10-replacement-plane-air-force-a-x/ (http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a20376/a-10-replacement-plane-air-force-a-x/)

You know, there's a reason this aircraft is 'heavy'...it's the armor protection against small arms fire...I don't think anyone in the AF understands that.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on July 20, 2016, 04:31:37 AM

Need we say more .................

(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh490/CharlieA380/image_zpsb5q0qiwr.jpeg) (http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/CharlieA380/media/image_zpsb5q0qiwr.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on July 20, 2016, 07:36:25 AM
Is that a Typhoon?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Deziner on July 20, 2016, 09:39:54 AM
The Kee bird video is too sad on SO many levels....
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on July 20, 2016, 10:59:33 AM
The Kee bird video is too sad on SO many levels....

Exactly! I got to believe it influenced the entire testing plan for Doc.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: T Cro ® on July 31, 2016, 08:17:57 PM
Exactly! I got to believe it influenced the entire testing plan for Doc.

I can't even bare to think of the anguish they must have felt to be able to do nothing but sit in a lawn chair and watch that plane; their labor of love burn so completely down...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Bergmen on July 31, 2016, 10:28:53 PM
I can't even bare to think of the anguish they must have felt to be able to do nothing but sit in a lawn chair and watch that plane; their labor of love burn so completely down...

Due specifically and only to the idiocy of the PIC (Pilot In Command, Darryl Greenamyer) who began taxi testing and decided to make a run at a takeoff without any pre-checks to make sure all was in order for takeoff. What a freakin' idiot and he should be held entirely responsible for the complete loss of an otherwise airworthy B-29. He should pay for everything that was lost in this fiasco and reimburse all of the people who donated giant amounts of money to completely overhaul all four engines plus props and everything else that needed restoring on this aircraft.

I wouldn't let him ride a rusty tricycle after this.

Dan
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on August 01, 2016, 01:01:04 AM
URL=http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/CharlieA380/media/image_zps3v9j6t2u.jpeg.html](http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh490/CharlieA380/image_zps3v9j6t2u.jpeg)[/URL]
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on August 01, 2016, 06:23:34 AM
URL=http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/CharlieA380/media/image_zps3v9j6t2u.jpeg.html](http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh490/CharlieA380/image_zps3v9j6t2u.jpeg)[/URL]

Awesome pic Charlie! I can just smell and hear that Merlin starting up!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: T Cro ® on August 01, 2016, 07:28:57 AM
Due specifically and only to the idiocy of the PIC (Pilot In Command, Darryl Greenamyer) who began taxi testing and decided to make a run at a takeoff without any pre-checks to make sure all was in order for takeoff. What a freakin' idiot and he should be held entirely responsible for the complete loss of an otherwise airworthy B-29. He should pay for everything that was lost in this fiasco and reimburse all of the people who donated giant amounts of money to completely overhaul all four engines plus props and everything else that needed restoring on this aircraft.

I wouldn't let him ride a rusty tricycle after this.

Dan

I kind of wondered this to myself too....
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on August 01, 2016, 10:31:35 AM
Talk about PIC massive screw up. 16 dead in a hot air balloon over the weekend near me in TX. The #1 decision a hot air balloon pilot has to make is weather to fly or not. I didn't even know they had balloons that big. It was a commercial operation and willing to bet a paycheck that the wind was iffy and business concerns overrode flight safety. So sad.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-balloon-crash-idUSKCN10A0IX (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-balloon-crash-idUSKCN10A0IX)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on August 01, 2016, 04:33:02 PM
Not good news ☹️
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on August 01, 2016, 04:35:16 PM
URL=http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/CharlieA380/media/image_zpsa8sagyvb.jpeg.html](http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh490/CharlieA380/image_zpsa8sagyvb.jpeg)[/URL]
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on August 01, 2016, 04:36:48 PM
URL=http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/CharlieA380/media/image_zpshoa4issp.jpeg.html](http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh490/CharlieA380/image_zpshoa4issp.jpeg)[/URL]
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on August 01, 2016, 04:39:19 PM
URL=http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/CharlieA380/media/image_zpsfjg3obgw.jpeg.html](http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh490/CharlieA380/image_zpsfjg3obgw.jpeg)[/URL]
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on August 01, 2016, 04:42:38 PM
URL=http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/CharlieA380/media/image_zpsiva8zdgd.jpeg.html](http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh490/CharlieA380/image_zpsiva8zdgd.jpeg)[/URL]
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on August 01, 2016, 04:46:12 PM
URL=http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/CharlieA380/media/image_zpsqfyst41f.jpeg.html](http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh490/CharlieA380/image_zpsqfyst41f.jpeg)[/URL]
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on August 01, 2016, 04:52:07 PM
Where's Vulcan?

URL=http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/CharlieA380/media/image_zpswuw2hbqj.jpeg.html](http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh490/CharlieA380/image_zpswuw2hbqj.jpeg)[/URL]
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on August 01, 2016, 06:33:49 PM
How about leaving an a perfectly good aircraft we like....
http://youtu.be/6qF_fzEI4wU (http://youtu.be/6qF_fzEI4wU)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on August 02, 2016, 07:50:01 AM
How about leaving an a perfectly good aircraft we like....
http://youtu.be/6qF_fzEI4wU (http://youtu.be/6qF_fzEI4wU)

Out of his fracking mind!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on August 02, 2016, 07:51:36 AM
URL=http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/CharlieA380/media/image_zpsiva8zdgd.jpeg.html](http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh490/CharlieA380/image_zpsiva8zdgd.jpeg)[/URL]

Took a bit to figure out what is going on in this pic. Cool!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Bergmen on August 02, 2016, 10:08:56 AM
Out of his fracking mind!

Yeah, a slight shift of about 20' to his right and he would have been one with the earth. A little too far off center to me...

Dan
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Nosmo on August 02, 2016, 02:39:35 PM
Out of his fracking mind!

I bet that last 500 feet used up all the adrenaline in his body, assuming he had any left.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Deziner on August 02, 2016, 04:17:34 PM
Out of his fracking mind!

Maybe. Maybe not. I'd love to try that. The rush has got to be OFF THE HOOK!!!!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Bergmen on August 03, 2016, 11:34:28 AM
Maybe. Maybe not. I'd love to try that. The rush has got to be OFF THE HOOK!!!!

Thanks, but I'll take the opening shock of a high performance elliptical winged parachute at about 2,500 feet instead. I'm cool with a tippy-toe landing on grass.

Dan
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: tweeter55 on August 03, 2016, 11:46:10 AM
Maybe. Maybe not. I'd love to try that. The rush has got to be OFF THE HOOK!!!!
Not sure what you mean by try that. That is total commitment right there.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on August 03, 2016, 02:22:01 PM
Not sure what you mean by try that. That is total commitment right there.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Deziner on August 03, 2016, 05:51:43 PM
One cannot succeed an an endeavor until one tries. It is after you try that you find out whether you succeed or fail.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on August 04, 2016, 06:00:34 AM
How about leaving an a perfectly good aircraft we like....
http://youtu.be/6qF_fzEI4wU (http://youtu.be/6qF_fzEI4wU)

How does he walk with the size of balls he carries.  Watched the video and WOW what a rush it must of been 🍻👍😃
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on August 04, 2016, 06:02:45 AM
Took a bit to figure out what is going on in this pic. Cool!

Thought you might enjoy that one mate 🍻👍😃
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: tonedeaf1 on August 14, 2016, 11:50:02 AM
Here is an interesting (hopelessly over-hyped) overview of some odd flying machines.

http://www.gleems.com/1771011/unbelievable-aircraft-government-keeping-secret/?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral (http://www.gleems.com/1771011/unbelievable-aircraft-government-keeping-secret/?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on August 18, 2016, 11:47:43 AM
I see that we're up to scaring the Chinese with our three bombers.... ::)

http://www.pacaf.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/377/Article/916815/b-52-b-1-b-2s-participate-in-first-integrated-bomber-operation-in-uspacom-aor.aspx (http://www.pacaf.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/377/Article/916815/b-52-b-1-b-2s-participate-in-first-integrated-bomber-operation-in-uspacom-aor.aspx)

That will put the scare of God into them.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on August 18, 2016, 01:44:24 PM
Airlander 10

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/airlander-10-worlds-largest-airship-dubbed-flying-bum-takes-maiden-n633031 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/airlander-10-worlds-largest-airship-dubbed-flying-bum-takes-maiden-n633031)

I think I like it!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on August 19, 2016, 07:10:38 PM
The Gloster Meteor was actually the only allied jet aircraft to see service during WW2.  There are at least 12 variants from the F MK.1 thru NF MK.14.  It was the very first operational jet used by the Allies and nearly 4000 were produced.  It saw service in the RAF until 1980.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Meteor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Meteor)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on August 24, 2016, 06:28:32 PM
Airlander 10

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/airlander-10-worlds-largest-airship-dubbed-flying-bum-takes-maiden-n633031 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/airlander-10-worlds-largest-airship-dubbed-flying-bum-takes-maiden-n633031)

I think I like it!
How do you like it now?
http://youtu.be/Z5Slv6E5ntQ (http://youtu.be/Z5Slv6E5ntQ)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Deziner on August 24, 2016, 07:37:49 PM
At that velocity, can that even be considered a crash? Or did the pilot just become a member of ADA? (Airlander Droppers Anonymous)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on August 25, 2016, 03:48:29 AM
At that velocity, can that even be considered a crash? Or did the pilot just become a member of ADA? (Airlander Droppers Anonymous)
;D
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 25, 2016, 04:11:52 AM
Looks like a stoppie to me.  And yes, I still like it.
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Post by: Cholla on August 25, 2016, 09:56:32 AM
Oh, the humanity!

Locally two nights ago two guys were practicing touch n goes in their flying club's Cherokee. They had engine problems and sat it down on a local highway. It was towed to the airport, nearby.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on August 25, 2016, 11:07:18 AM
Oh, the humanity!

Locally two nights ago two guys were practicing touch n goes in their flying club's Cherokee. They had engine problems and sat it down on a local highway. It was towed to the airport, nearby.

 ;D :thumbs:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rick Hall on September 12, 2016, 08:31:36 PM
I like Canard aircraft. The Cozy Mark-IV is uber kewl, a four place 200 MPH rocket, though any canard is fine with me. Specifically the Cozy Mark-IV that just passed an Airworthiness inspection last week with *my* name on the certificate :)

Eight plus years of epoxy dribbles on my clothes and shoes, fumes, sanding dust up the ying-yang, 1100+ lbs of boxes shipped UPS/FedX 15 lbs at a time. Except for the engine ;) November One Four Zulu Golf is mine. Am sure y'all can do the math on that one :)

Rick
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Post by: Conniesaki on September 12, 2016, 11:03:56 PM
Pretty slick vanity 'plate', Rick.
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Post by: gPink on September 13, 2016, 03:24:25 AM
congrats Rick    :thumbs:
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Post by: Rhino on September 13, 2016, 04:53:00 AM
I like Canard aircraft. The Cozy Mark-IV is uber kewl, a four place 200 MPH rocket, though any canard is fine with me. Specifically the Cozy Mark-IV that just passed an Airworthiness inspection last week with *my* name on the certificate :)

Eight plus years of epoxy dribbles on my clothes and shoes, fumes, sanding dust up the ying-yang, 1100+ lbs of boxes shipped UPS/FedX 15 lbs at a time. Except for the engine ;) November One Four Zulu Golf is mine. Am sure y'all can do the math on that one :)

Rick

Congrats Rick!! Quite an accomplishment! My brother and I are working on an RV-3 project. This was a flying aircraft that had been taken apart for engine overhaul, install of new glass cockpit and paint. It's been over a year and probably another year before we're done. And that's trivial compared to building a Cozy from scratch. But....

WE WANT PICTURES!!!
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Post by: tweeter55 on September 13, 2016, 05:13:52 AM
WE WANT PICTURES!!!
+1!!!
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Post by: Deziner on September 13, 2016, 06:57:34 AM
Congratulations! However, as the saying goes, "pics or it didn't happen"!
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Post by: just gone on September 13, 2016, 09:58:29 PM
..... sanding dust up the ying-yang, ...

Ah...regardless what the FAA says, I think you missed a spot (https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11407241_1659255884303808_5749496824946918455_n.jpg?oh=ac8c5fa1769420898ca0e36bae7a189e&oe=5882C8C3) or two. Might yaw to the left a bit.   ;D

Congrats Rick, I always liked the Berkut but the Cozy looks great too! Love all the canards!
Like the others, waiting for finished photos with the fancy vanity plate.  :thumbs:
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Post by: Cholla on September 14, 2016, 12:12:56 PM
Rick, your tail number grabbed my attention. I used to rent a 152 with the tail # N714ZG.
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Post by: Rhino on September 14, 2016, 04:11:36 PM
Rick, your tail number grabbed my attention. I used to rent a 152 with the tail # N714ZG.

I learned on 152's. I still remember one that I flew more than others: Four Uniform Hotel.
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Post by: Rick Hall on September 14, 2016, 10:26:02 PM
Ah...regardless what the FAA says, I think you missed a spot (https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11407241_1659255884303808_5749496824946918455_n.jpg?oh=ac8c5fa1769420898ca0e36bae7a189e&oe=5882C8C3) or two. Might yaw to the left a bit.   ;D

Surprisingly, that's my hangar, and probably my plane too. *I* don't remember taking that pix though. Looks like I was adding cowling attach flanges to the wing and turtle back (canopy), maybe a year ago?

I look like every other Cozy from 50', but no accent trim colors. Basic white primer for now. Will try to take a 50-100' shot, and upload, in a few days

All electric, single screen 10" Dynon Skyview Touch, deluxe VFR panel (A/P. Mode S, ADS-b, cappuccino maker in back ...). PMA5000EX audio panel as the Dynon audio panel is only a bare bones two place. Room for a Garmin 650 when I win the Lotto, that'll give me full IFR. No FIKI though, canards do not do ice.

Registration was a fluke. the "14" was my anticipated year of completion (we know how that goes, or went), the "ZG" is as everyone suspected ;)

Rick
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Post by: Charlie747 on October 02, 2016, 12:14:37 AM

A wet day at the office !

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o7G1rvmwfIk
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rick Hall on October 10, 2016, 11:36:34 PM
Congratulations! However, as the saying goes, "pics or it didn't happen"!
On FakeBook, should be viewable to all. 1st is receiving the infamous 'pink slip' from the Denver FSDO (FAA). 2nd/3rd are after first flight

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14568083_1835320420030686_8809865424340505748_n.jpg?oh=89c62f21c3582695104f9f82a6166be9&oe=58ABAD8A)
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14523031_919097724863548_1516072234394457637_n.jpg?oh=4670b270954394569c3d77c2e52647f8&oe=58A4CF0D)
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14632858_919097754863545_3392961185702267506_n.jpg?oh=f7240b7be56e2bbbe96ae1bec104787b&oe=589D81D0)
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Post by: O.C. on October 11, 2016, 02:12:34 AM
Interesting  :) 


https://www.warhistoryonline.com/whotube-2/b-29-kee-bird-frozen-time-watch.html (https://www.warhistoryonline.com/whotube-2/b-29-kee-bird-frozen-time-watch.html) 
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Post by: gPink on October 11, 2016, 03:18:38 AM
On FakeBook, should be viewable to all. 1st is receiving the infamous 'pink slip' from the Denver FSDO (FAA). 2nd/3rd are after first flight


Congrats Rick. Are you flying to the midwest rendezvous next year?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Deziner on October 11, 2016, 08:03:24 AM
On FakeBook, should be viewable to all. 1st is receiving the infamous 'pink slip' from the Denver FSDO (FAA). 2nd/3rd are after first flight



Nicely done, Sir!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on October 11, 2016, 09:27:06 AM
On FakeBook, should be viewable to all. 1st is receiving the infamous 'pink slip' from the Denver FSDO (FAA). 2nd/3rd are after first flight


Rick, that's awesome! Thanks for sharing the pics. How does she fly?
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Post by: Rick Hall on October 11, 2016, 11:20:19 AM
Congrats Rick. Are you flying to the midwest rendezvous next year?
Possible, if there's an airport near by.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rick Hall on October 11, 2016, 11:23:24 AM
... How does she fly?

Currently like a brick, I need to make some adjustments. Gets to 145kts pretty quick though, I need to watch that until I get to the "test Vne" test card. Flutter issues, AKA catastrophic divergent oscillation.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 11, 2016, 01:31:01 PM
Interesting  :) 


https://www.warhistoryonline.com/whotube-2/b-29-kee-bird-frozen-time-watch.html (https://www.warhistoryonline.com/whotube-2/b-29-kee-bird-frozen-time-watch.html)

Darn shame about that aircraft.. :'(
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 13, 2016, 05:13:25 PM
Restoring 'Doc' B-29 using Click Bond fasteners

http://www.b-29doc.com/2016/10/13/inside-doc-click-bond-fasteners-help-restore-history-video/ (http://www.b-29doc.com/2016/10/13/inside-doc-click-bond-fasteners-help-restore-history-video/)

http://youtu.be/jmczhwuLsSs (http://youtu.be/jmczhwuLsSs)

Sure hope they hold up...
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 14, 2016, 01:43:56 PM
B-29 Doc Landing Gear Swing Test

http://youtu.be/toadsNLZXRU (http://youtu.be/toadsNLZXRU)

http://www.b-29doc.com/2016/10/14/video-restoration-crew-preparing-for-more-flight-hours/ (http://www.b-29doc.com/2016/10/14/video-restoration-crew-preparing-for-more-flight-hours/)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on October 14, 2016, 04:07:28 PM
Something for everyone 😃
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on October 14, 2016, 04:11:04 PM
Some more to enjoy
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Post by: Charlie747 on October 14, 2016, 04:15:47 PM
A selection for Jim......
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 14, 2016, 05:00:35 PM
You know what makes me happy, don't you.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on October 17, 2016, 07:36:01 AM
You know what makes me happy, don't you.

Single malt scotch?
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on October 17, 2016, 07:51:15 AM
So many awesome aircraft, so little money... For personal transportation I've always loved the Lanceair. Flew into Gilespie airport on Sunday for breakfast and found this parked next to the Cessna 172 when we finished.  This Lanceair Evolution turbine will cruise at 300 knots true.

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14718837_10202075246959442_637601414841438890_n.jpg?oh=05aae3f1deb1e83fdd7c4741e6757401&oe=589C8EEA)
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Post by: Charlie747 on October 17, 2016, 05:46:19 PM
Did you check to see if it was locked ? Lol 😆
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Post by: VirginiaJim on October 18, 2016, 02:14:40 PM
Single malt scotch?

Quite a few things, actually...including single malt Scotch (family, friends, beer, steaks, breakfast, lunch, dinner, more beer, England, aircraft, these forums, motorcycles...) quite a long list.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on October 18, 2016, 03:07:37 PM
Did you check to see if it was locked ? Lol 😆

Hmmm, seems I might have missed an opportunity. But alas, wouldn't even know how to start a turbine never mind fly one safely.
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Post by: Rick Hall on October 18, 2016, 09:25:50 PM
Hmmm, seems I might have missed an opportunity. But alas, wouldn't even know how to start a turbine never mind fly one safely.
Flies like any other plane ;) , just has some weird levers and placards.

Check turbine oil, kick the tires.
Most modern turboprops have an automated start sequence, basically hit the start button.
Prop fine pitch (or feathered, read POH), fuel lever off, power at idle.
Hit the start and ignitor (if equipped) switches.
When RPM ~700 RPM, fuel lever to on.
When RPM ~1200 RPM, release starter and ignitor (if equipped) switches. Watch for 'hot' start on the ITT or TIT gauges (rarely happens). Shut the fuel off if overheat, and BAIL!
Go fly.

Rick
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Post by: Rhino on October 19, 2016, 07:45:13 AM
Flies like any other plane ;) , just has some weird levers and placards.

Check turbine oil, kick the tires.
Most modern turboprops have an automated start sequence, basically hit the start button.
Prop fine pitch (or feathered, read POH), fuel lever off, power at idle.
Hit the start and ignitor (if equipped) switches.
When RPM ~700 RPM, fuel lever to on.
When RPM ~1200 RPM, release starter and ignitor (if equipped) switches. Watch for 'hot' start on the ITT or TIT gauges (rarely happens). Shut the fuel off if overheat, and BAIL!
Go fly.

Rick

See? I didn't know any of that. Also you have got to nail the power setting on landing as getting behind the power curve could ruin your whole day.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Charlie747 on October 19, 2016, 03:21:39 PM
A300kt cruise is good..........now let me see........

VNE of a 172 .............Mmmmmm

 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rick Hall on October 19, 2016, 09:41:19 PM
Guess I'm middle of the road. I should have a Vne of 205, once I test for that.
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Post by: Charlie747 on October 20, 2016, 02:37:13 AM
Guess I'm middle of the road. I should have a Vne of 205, once I test for that.

Rick.......How do you test for VNE ?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aSnh-4EiBYM (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aSnh-4EiBYM)

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Post by: Rhino on October 20, 2016, 06:38:29 AM
Rick.......How do you test for VNE ?


Good question. I hope its not: put it in a dive, accelerate until flutter breaks something off, note the indicated air speed, mark as VNE.

Didn't Nat Puffer or some test pilot do that testing for you?
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Post by: Rick Hall on October 20, 2016, 12:10:48 PM
Good question. I hope its not: put it in a dive, accelerate until flutter breaks something off, note the indicated air speed, mark as VNE.
That's the simple version ;)
Quote
Didn't Nat Puffer or some test pilot do that testing for you?
Not that I'm aware. Minor differences in airfoil shapes... and ours are all different... even if by only a hair...
Nat did deep stall testing (sort of). The main wings stalls *before* the canard, it's generally not recoverable. But it's not a lawn dart event either. Nat set up a trolly in his plane with a moveable weight. If at aft CG, and he detected an impending deep stall, he could shift the weight forward. Don't think he ever found his planes limit for aft CG, he may have chickened out before it happened.

Rick
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on October 25, 2016, 10:15:39 AM
Sad news this morning. Just read about the passing of Bob Hoover. I saw him fly a couple of times. He was poetry in motion. Beyond being arguably the best pilot on earth, he was also an amazing human being. I love the story of how he lost engines on take off and landed off airport due to the line boy putting the wrong fuel in his airplane. When he returned to the airport the kid was crying and apologizing. Bob's response was as pilot in command it was my responsibility to make sure the aircraft was ready for flight. Any time I come back here I'm going to insist that you are the only person I will let fuel my airplanes as I know you will never make that mistake again.
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Post by: Bergmen on October 25, 2016, 12:35:18 PM
Sad news this morning. Just read about the passing of Bob Hoover. I saw him fly a couple of times. He was poetry in motion. Beyond being arguably the best pilot on earth, he was also an amazing human being. I love the story of how he lost engines on take off and landed off airport due to the line boy putting the wrong fuel in his airplane. When he returned to the airport the kid was crying and apologizing. Bob's response was as pilot in command it was my responsibility to make sure the aircraft was ready for flight. Any time I come back here I'm going to insist that you are the only person I will let fuel my airplanes as I know you will never make that mistake again.

Wow, this is sad news indeed. Amazing, legendary pilot, saw him fly many, many times - no one could ever fly like he could. He has an excellent autobiography ("Forever Flying") that is a must read.

Dan
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Post by: Rhino on October 27, 2016, 12:35:59 PM
A-10 gets a new lease on life:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a23537/air-force-fires-up-depot-line-keep-a-10s-flying-indefinitely/ (http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a23537/air-force-fires-up-depot-line-keep-a-10s-flying-indefinitely/)
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Post by: gPink on October 27, 2016, 12:52:33 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: O.C. on October 28, 2016, 03:29:39 AM
A10 (Tankbuster/Warthogs) were temporarily seen flying over this area a couple of months ago, they are amazing  8) 

They have now moved back to their permanent base and left us with the sight of Typhoons and Chinooks etc  8)     
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Post by: Rhino on November 04, 2016, 01:40:32 PM
Guess I'm middle of the road. I should have a Vne of 205, once I test for that.

Applicable comic strip for trial and error method of testing limits:

(http://assets.amuniversal.com/944644505b660134bd41005056a9545d)
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Post by: Rick Hall on November 05, 2016, 01:17:16 AM
Quite accurate :)

I saw 160 knots indicated airspeed today, or about 180 knots true airspeed (~205 MPH GPS ground speed), in a gentle decent. No indication of flutter.

I look forward to the day when I can fly a passenger (like say a voluntary motor-scooter driver who has no idea what they're getting into) up in an experimental plastic aeroplane that a knuckle dragger built in his basement for a 'low pass' at 200+ MPH :)

Rick

Applicable comic strip for trial and error method of testing limits:

(http://assets.amuniversal.com/944644505b660134bd41005056a9545d)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: O.C. on November 05, 2016, 02:15:14 AM
There is plenty military aircraft activity where we live, maybe because there is a huge army base very close by, consequently it's not unusual to see different types of military aircraft including helicopters

Whilst out walking my dog two days ago I heard this very loud helicopter, I knew it wasn't a Chinook as the noise they make is instantly recognisable, but because I couldn't see what was making the noise  (low tree line) I couldn't identify it

As it disappeared I caught a quick glimpse and think it was one of these.....now I'm no aircraft buff and certainly no expert, but are these things quite rare  ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vglHpvcK-Jk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vglHpvcK-Jk) 
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Strawboss on November 06, 2016, 02:05:21 PM
Just saw a few in Florida a few weeks ago, lots of military planes around there too, yes, they do have a distinctive sound. I think, but not sure,  only the U.S. Marine Corps. fly them so you won't see very many of them compared with other branches of the service.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on November 07, 2016, 05:10:57 AM
There is plenty military aircraft activity where we live, maybe because there is a huge army base very close by, consequently it's not unusual to see different types of military aircraft including helicopters

Whilst out walking my dog two days ago I heard this very loud helicopter, I knew it wasn't a Chinook as the noise they make is instantly recognisable, but because I couldn't see what was making the noise  (low tree line) I couldn't identify it

As it disappeared I caught a quick glimpse and think it was one of these.....now I'm no aircraft buff and certainly no expert, but are these things quite rare  ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vglHpvcK-Jk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vglHpvcK-Jk)

Not rare at all where I live, which is very near Fort A. P. Hill.  https://www.army.mil/aphill#org-about (https://www.army.mil/aphill#org-about)

They (Osprey's) were flying all about at dusk   Quite loud and different from ordinary helicopters.  Typically they are Marine versions training at A. P. Hill.  I actually have a coffee cup with one of them pictured on it.  Got it from a guy that worked with the Osprey development program when I sold a car to him.  Also worked with a former Marine officer that was part of the early development of that aircraft.

There were some AF Osprey's based in Mildenhall back in 2014 but not sure if they are still there.  They were for special ops.  https://theaviationist.com/2014/10/14/osprey-against-moon/ (https://theaviationist.com/2014/10/14/osprey-against-moon/)
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on November 07, 2016, 05:22:03 AM
Are those things still falling out of the sky?
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Post by: Rhino on November 07, 2016, 07:00:20 AM
Quite accurate :)

I saw 160 knots indicated airspeed today, or about 180 knots true airspeed (~205 MPH GPS ground speed), in a gentle decent. No indication of flutter.

I look forward to the day when I can fly a passenger (like say a voluntary motor-scooter driver who has no idea what they're getting into) up in an experimental plastic aeroplane that a knuckle dragger built in his basement for a 'low pass' at 200+ MPH :)

Rick

Nice! That is moving right along. Last weekend I went flying with a friend that has a Mooney 201. Our cruise ground speed was 161 knots (I was in the right seat right and the Avidyne GPS was right in front of me). I don't remember the power setting but this is a 200 hp IO-360 and Mooney's are not slow.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on November 07, 2016, 07:00:39 AM
They're using them a lot these days so I think the reliability of them has improved substantially.  They first flew in 1989 so they've had some time to make them better. 
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: O.C. on November 07, 2016, 07:16:33 AM
Are those things still falling out of the sky?

Not around here....I hope  ;) 
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on November 07, 2016, 07:23:42 AM
I remember early models were hard on the passengers. I didn't know if they fixed them or if they were just writing off collateral damage.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on November 07, 2016, 07:48:11 AM
The V-22 Osprey had 7 hull-loss accidents with a total of 36 fatalities. During testing from 1991 to 2000 there were four crashes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_accidents_and_incidents) resulting in 30 fatalities.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_V-22_Osprey#cite_note-wired_200507-1) Since becoming operational in 2007, the V-22 has had three crashes resulting in six fatalities including one combat-zone crash,[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_V-22_Osprey#cite_note-natoisaf_20100409-2) and several minor incidents (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_accidents_and_incidents).   This was out of 200+ aircraft as of 2014.
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Post by: SapperLdr on November 09, 2016, 08:03:20 PM
The V-22 has some unique flight characteristics that were a tough learning curve.  Not unlike the AV8 when it was first fielded. One thing they can't due is hover for a significant amount of time especially in ground effect.  Unfortunately when a transport aircraft crashes it usually kills more then one person. 
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 10, 2016, 08:26:21 AM
The V-22 is an impressive technological marvel. Just not convinced the benefits justify the cost.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: O.C. on November 10, 2016, 08:31:25 AM
Thanks Jim and after reading that information I'll be keeping a eye out for any more around here, mind you if it decides to fall out of the sky I just hope I'm not nearby cos running certainly isn't part of my physical make up these days   :o   
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Post by: Bergmen on November 10, 2016, 10:39:18 AM
The V-22 is an impressive technological marvel. Just not convinced the benefits justify the cost.

Or the risk. I've always been uncomfortable with that much complexity in the lift/thrust combination power plants.

Dan
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Post by: VirginiaJim on November 10, 2016, 03:33:00 PM
Thanks Jim and after reading that information I'll be keeping a eye out for any more around here, mind you if it decides to fall out of the sky I just hope I'm not nearby cos running certainly isn't part of my physical make up these days   :o   

You've got more chance of an F-16 falling out of the sky than one of those in your neck of the woods..well, maybe Charlie's neck of the woods.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rhino on November 10, 2016, 04:25:57 PM
You've got more chance of an F-16 falling out of the sky than one of those in your neck of the woods..well, maybe Charlie's neck of the woods.

True. I've seen hundreds of F-16's flying over me but have yet to see a V-22 in the air or on the ground.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: Rick Hall on November 10, 2016, 09:12:49 PM
Nice! That is moving right along. Last weekend I went flying with a friend that has a Mooney 201. Our cruise ground speed was 161 knots (I was in the right seat right and the Avidyne GPS was right in front of me). I don't remember the power setting but this is a 200 hp IO-360 and Mooney's are not slow.

Thanks  :chugbeer:

Canards have some quirky characteristics, but they do get from point "A" to point "B" in a fashionable manner. Don't think I mentioned, but I flew formation with a Bonanza V tail the other day. For such a heavy looking airplane, they scoot right along. *I* had a hard time keeping up, but I'm still in test phase with a new engine.

Rick
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: O.C. on November 11, 2016, 03:49:14 AM
You've got more chance of an F-16 falling out of the sky than one of those in your neck of the woods..well, maybe Charlie's neck of the woods.

 ;D 
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Post by: slolifepilot on November 17, 2016, 04:35:57 PM
True. I've seen hundreds of F-16's flying over me but have yet to see a V-22 in the air or on the ground.
I got this photo in Paso Robles when this one came in to bring parts to repair the one in the background.  It never shut down, just landed, delivered, and split.  Probably didnt want to run the risk of shutting down and getting stuck too!!!
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on November 17, 2016, 05:19:55 PM
fed x would have been cheaper
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 18, 2016, 05:16:23 AM
http://youtu.be/e7e7gFVTi1Q (http://youtu.be/e7e7gFVTi1Q)

http://youtu.be/IHQt0iklfbo (http://youtu.be/IHQt0iklfbo)
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Post by: slolifepilot on November 25, 2016, 10:05:15 AM
Not an F-15 but i had a lot of fun flying around in this.  Ive always loved the sound of the P-51, I've attended the Reno air races many times and never get tired of the sights and sounds of that!  Rare Bear, an F8F had the best sound when it would go past, you could hear the prop pulse as it cut through the air.
Title: Re: Aircraft we like..
Post by: gPink on November 25, 2016, 10:56:51 AM
Looks like a revenooer airplane.
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Post by: Cholla on November 25, 2016, 01:23:58 PM
I was going to say id should have "highway patrol" on the wings then opened the pic ...it already does!
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Post by: VirginiaJim on November 30, 2016, 03:09:57 PM
+1
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Post by: Rhino on December 14, 2016, 07:26:27 AM
Final flight and retirement ceremony of the F4 Phantom set for Dec 21 at Hollowman AFB NM:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/12/the_final_flight_for_the_f4_phantom_set_for_next_week.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/12/the_final_flight_for_the_f4_phantom_set_for_next_week.html)

http://airshowstuff.com/v4/2016/details-of-the-f-4-phantom-phinale-final-flight-and-retirement-ceremony-date-set/ (http://airshowstuff.com/v4/2016/details-of-the-f-4-phantom-phinale-final-flight-and-retirement-ceremony-date-set/)

I had a friend that flew against F-4's at Red Flag in an F-15 in the 80's and at that time said the F-4 was still a formidable opponent.

Some info regarding its final military roll as a full scale target manned and unmanned:

http://youtu.be/fKvHAVKvK30 (http://youtu.be/fKvHAVKvK30)
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Post by: B.D.F. on December 14, 2016, 01:12:19 PM
That is absolutely amazing- thanks for posting that! I had no idea they were still in any kind of active service in the US, especially since the Naval replacement (the F-14) has been retired and the A.F. replacement is being phased out (F-15).

A big, brutal airplane IMO- not the least bit slick or graceful. Not pretty but extremely businesslike and formidable. Still, they were effective and performed very well and I think proved themselves to be as tough as they look like they ought to be. More like something that would come out of Grumman ("The Ironworks") rather than McDonnell.

Also the last fighter that made anyone an 'ace' in the US.

Brian

Final flight and retirement ceremony of the F4 Phantom set for Dec 21 at Hollowman AFB NM:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/12/the_final_flight_for_the_f4_phantom_set_for_next_week.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/12/the_final_flight_for_the_f4_phantom_set_for_next_week.html)

http://airshowstuff.com/v4/2016/details-of-the-f-4-phantom-phinale-final-flight-and-retirement-ceremony-date-set/ (http://airshowstuff.com/v4/2016/details-of-the-f-4-phantom-phinale-final-flight-and-retirement-ceremony-date-set/)

I had a friend that flew against F-4's at Red Flag in an F-15 in the 80's and at that time said the F-4 was still a formidable opponent.

Some info regarding its final military roll as a full scale target manned and unmanned:

http://youtu.be/fKvHAVKvK30 (http://youtu.be/fKvHAVKvK30)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on December 15, 2016, 01:58:16 PM
I liked the F-100s (actually all the century series of fighters) better..
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Post by: Rhino on December 15, 2016, 02:17:33 PM
I liked the F-100s (actually all the century series of fighters) better..

The same buddy that flew F-15's got out of the Air Force and went to the NJ ANG (he eventually retired a Maj General and commander of the NYANG) flew 106's for a year before they moved to F-16's. He said he loved the 106 because it carried its missiles internally and you flew it clean.
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Post by: Bergmen on December 18, 2016, 04:29:08 PM
Two F-104s for sale on Trade-A-Plane:

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Jets&make=LOCKHEED&model=F104+STARFIGHTER&listing_id=2154270&s-type=aircraft (http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Jets&make=LOCKHEED&model=F104+STARFIGHTER&listing_id=2154270&s-type=aircraft)

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Jets&make=LOCKHEED&model=F104+STARFIGHTER&listing_id=2213583&s-type=aircraft (http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Jets&make=LOCKHEED&model=F104+STARFIGHTER&listing_id=2213583&s-type=aircraft)

Dan
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Post by: gPink on December 18, 2016, 04:42:49 PM
Quite a price difference. Restoration must be spendy.
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Post by: Rhino on December 19, 2016, 07:39:47 AM
Awesome! I want one. But these do not appear to be dual control and according to Wikipedia the empty weight is 14,000 lbs so this means it requires a type rating to fly it. How do you get a type rating on an F-104 when there are no dual control aircraft flying? And I would bet there aren't any category (5 or 6?) simulators for this aircraft.

My mistake, when I zoomed in on a pick of the expensive one it is a dual seat. I guess you just need to find an CFI with 104 type rating.

Two F-104s for sale on Trade-A-Plane:

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Jets&make=LOCKHEED&model=F104+STARFIGHTER&listing_id=2154270&s-type=aircraft (http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Jets&make=LOCKHEED&model=F104+STARFIGHTER&listing_id=2154270&s-type=aircraft)

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Jets&make=LOCKHEED&model=F104+STARFIGHTER&listing_id=2213583&s-type=aircraft (http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Jets&make=LOCKHEED&model=F104+STARFIGHTER&listing_id=2213583&s-type=aircraft)

Dan
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Post by: Bergmen on December 19, 2016, 04:53:13 PM
Awesome! I want one. But these do not appear to be dual control and according to Wikipedia the empty weight is 14,000 lbs so this means it requires a type rating to fly it. How do you get a type rating on an F-104 when there are no dual control aircraft flying? And I would bet there aren't any category (5 or 6?) simulators for this aircraft.

My mistake, when I zoomed in on a pick of the expensive one it is a dual seat. I guess you just need to find an CFI with 104 type rating.

The spendy one in Arizona has been owned by the same owner (Mark Shermann) for many years (saw a TV report on him way back in the 80s I think). The ad says nothing about being currently airworthy so I would guess it is out of annual (who does annuals on F-104s these days?). Years ago the availability of tires was a big issue since they have a very limited number of take-offs and landings before they MUST be replaced. No sources for these and it cost (back then) over $70,000 just to start up the manufacturing line for these super special high pressure tires.

Also, another big issue was the engine sucking up dirt and/or sand off the runway knicking the turbine blades during take-off. It was common practice during the operational life of the F-104 to sweep the runway prior to take-off.

Dan
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Post by: Rhino on December 20, 2016, 09:51:53 AM
The spendy one in Arizona has been owned by the same owner (Mark Shermann) for many years (saw a TV report on him way back in the 80s I think). The ad says nothing about being currently airworthy so I would guess it is out of annual (who does annuals on F-104s these days?). Years ago the availability of tires was a big issue since they have a very limited number of take-offs and landings before they MUST be replaced. No sources for these and it cost (back then) over $70,000 just to start up the manufacturing line for these super special high pressure tires.

Also, another big issue was the engine sucking up dirt and/or sand off the runway knicking the turbine blades during take-off. It was common practice during the operational life of the F-104 to sweep the runway prior to take-off.

Dan

I think I remember that TV show. He said he needed 10 hours of maintenance on the ground for every hour in the air. Special tires is a consequence of very high landing and takeoff speeds I guess. Maybe PR4's with their >167 mph rating could be fitted (never mind the weight rating)  ;D
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Post by: Bergmen on December 26, 2016, 09:16:07 AM
This is the quote out of my WarbirdTech book on the F-104 on tires:

"Tires can be one of the more critical parts to obtain, because they typically only last about 15 landings. When your supply of tires is gone, you are looking at a $75,000 custom tire order from Goodyear."

My recollection (I'm looking for sources to substantiate) is there was very little room to house the retracted landing gear in the lower fuselage and super-high pressure, narrow tires were required.

BTW, my Dad was an aircraft tooling specialist on the F-104 while he was working for Lockheed Aircraft. It was a lot of fun to go visit him on the assembly line in those days.

Dan
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Post by: VirginiaJim on December 27, 2016, 11:53:15 AM
Speaking of aircraft tires, I can't tell you how many times I've been by this place in the past...

http://wilkersonaircrafttires.com/ (http://wilkersonaircrafttires.com/)
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Post by: tonedeaf1 on January 16, 2017, 09:07:03 PM
Interesting bit of history illustrated by various aircraft: http://www.doyletics.com/tidbits/militaryadvice.pdf (http://www.doyletics.com/tidbits/militaryadvice.pdf)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on January 17, 2017, 04:01:21 AM
Excellent!
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Post by: gPink on January 17, 2017, 06:36:24 AM
 :thumbs:
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Post by: O.C. on February 05, 2017, 02:12:45 PM
I stumbled across this on another forum, found it fascinating so I thought I would unashamedly steal it and share it on here

Hope you like it too...apologies if you have seen it before   :)   




https://biggeekdad.com/2017/01/the-red-baron/
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Post by: VirginiaJim on February 06, 2017, 01:36:24 PM
Excellent find!
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Post by: Rhino on February 06, 2017, 03:19:02 PM
Fantastic! Had no idea that footage existed.
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Post by: just gone on February 12, 2017, 04:11:07 PM
I stumbled across this on another forum, found it fascinating so I thought I would unashamedly steal it and share it on here

Hope you like it too...apologies if you have seen it before   :)   

https://biggeekdad.com/2017/01/the-red-baron/

Yes, nice find!

Watching that I see that ATGATT is not something new. Still, he geared up faster than I do.  :-[  :( ::)
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Post by: tonedeaf1 on February 13, 2017, 08:22:16 PM
Here are some nice pics from Ohkosh: http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=656700&mid=5523936#M552 (http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=656700&mid=5523936#M552)
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Post by: SapperLdr on February 13, 2017, 08:50:18 PM
Here are some nice pics from Ohkosh: http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=656700&mid=5523936#M552 (http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=656700&mid=5523936#M552)

Great stuff!
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Post by: O.C. on February 14, 2017, 03:28:09 AM
Here are some nice pics from Ohkosh: http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=656700&mid=5523936#M552 (http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=656700&mid=5523936#M552)

Stunning....thanks for sharing  :)   
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Post by: slolifepilot on February 14, 2017, 12:51:24 PM
Here are some nice pics from Ohkosh: http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=656700&mid=5523936#M552 (http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=656700&mid=5523936#M552)
Fantastic shots, thanks for sharing!
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Post by: marcusorelius on February 21, 2017, 04:41:25 PM
Yesterday we went over to the Kingman airport to look at a "flying fortress" a restored touring B-17G bomber that was here this weekend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b58EceTg_k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b58EceTg_k)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on February 22, 2017, 04:12:08 AM
 :thumbs:
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Post by: Rhino on February 22, 2017, 07:01:26 AM
I went for a ride in that exact airplane.

Bad photo but that's me in the bombardier seat.
(http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac177/sreinschmidt/menose1_zps4200c865.jpg)
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Post by: slolifepilot on April 26, 2017, 02:19:22 PM
I took this a while back when on of the B17's came to town.  The other plane is a Citation X.
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Post by: mikeyw64 on April 26, 2017, 03:01:25 PM
OK Jim you had B52 we had the V Bombers (Valeant Vulcan Victor)

The Victor is just a beautiful shape and when you consider the year it entered service very advanced.

HANDLEY PAGE VICTOR TRIBUTE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeBPOxPsVfI#)

You had the Century Fighters we had the Lightning a plane that had a climb rate not bettered till the F15 era

A tribute to man and machine

Last Flight English Electric Lightning, Dave Stock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hLvufAknW8#ws)
I used to work on Victors (along with Buccaneers, Harriers,  Tornados & Phantoms) when I worked at RAF St Athan, just missed out on Vulcans
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Post by: VirginiaJim on April 26, 2017, 08:17:15 PM
I like Victors, but then again I like most British aircraft.
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Post by: Cholla on April 27, 2017, 01:28:35 PM
I took this a while back when on of the B17's came to town.  The other plane is a Citation X.
I never knew they had propellers...
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Post by: scubadoguk on May 07, 2017, 06:55:19 AM
the loop had a few exclusive visitors
https://youtu.be/txooHvssic4
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 07, 2017, 07:39:38 AM
 :thumbs:
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 18, 2017, 08:11:22 AM
B-29 'Doc' at Barksdale AFB...

http://youtu.be/L0VVbNiNJ30 (http://youtu.be/L0VVbNiNJ30)

http://youtu.be/PPoPqemfD6c (http://youtu.be/PPoPqemfD6c)

http://youtu.be/njNcihB7e3Q (http://youtu.be/njNcihB7e3Q)

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Post by: Rhino on May 18, 2017, 08:41:14 AM
 :goodpost: Awesome Jim! Barksdale is only 400 miles from home. I should have hoped on the Duc and went! Now I'm ready for a video of Fifi and Doc in formation. Would be the first B-29 formation in what? 50 years? Oshkosh this year maybe?
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Post by: tonedeaf1 on May 21, 2017, 09:31:58 PM
For those of you who consider the phrase "too many airplane pictures" to be an oxymoron, here is a great link: http://airshowstuff.com/v4/ (http://airshowstuff.com/v4/)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 22, 2017, 04:01:30 AM
 :thumbs:
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Post by: Rhino on May 22, 2017, 09:40:22 AM
For those of you who consider the phrase "too many airplane pictures" to be an oxymoron, here is a great link: http://airshowstuff.com/v4/ (http://airshowstuff.com/v4/)

I know your writing in english but I have no idea what that phrase means.
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Post by: Rick Hall on June 15, 2017, 07:58:09 PM
Still my plane. If only because she turns heads.

I had to hold short on taxi at Colorado Springs to allow a FA-18 to taxi also. He eyed my plane about as long as I eyed his/hers. And we both gave each other a 30 second thumbs up.

Link and vid are on FakeBook, but *should* be publicly viewable.

(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19059658_10209230334299786_2726572226200493854_n.jpg?oh=b28efd5128b9be6fed36241aeac85176&oe=59E995CB)

https://www.facebook.com/melinda.jordan/videos/10209230334019779/ (https://www.facebook.com/melinda.jordan/videos/10209230334019779/)

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Post by: Rhino on June 19, 2017, 08:30:45 AM
Interesting! I've never seen that paint job before.
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Post by: Cholla on June 19, 2017, 08:38:38 AM
Notice the star on the tail? Its red as in Russian. They have a squadron painted in Russian colors for training.
I have been up close to them.
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Post by: Rhino on June 19, 2017, 09:21:31 AM
Notice the star on the tail? Its red as in Russian. They have a squadron painted in Russian colors for training.
I have been up close to them.

Ah yes! Red flag or Top Gun aggressor squadron. Cool!
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Post by: SapperLdr on June 26, 2017, 06:33:18 PM
Just a great pic of a great aircraft.
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Post by: SapperLdr on June 26, 2017, 08:16:46 PM
Another F4 and an interesting pic of a BF-109
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Post by: mikeyw64 on June 26, 2017, 11:10:09 PM
F4 Phantom flying between the hangers at RAF St Athan.

Not my picture but I did witness this on more than one occasion during the mid to late 80's, it was a bit of a tradition to do it after a either a successful post major overhaul test flight or on the delivery flight back to the squadron

(http://i.imgur.com/oSUlcNB.jpg)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on June 27, 2017, 03:51:31 AM
 :thumbs:
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Post by: Rhino on June 27, 2017, 07:13:16 AM
Another F4 and an interesting pic of a BF-109

I love these kinds of pics. Not some professional photog getting just the right shot but more of a candid shot. More a sense of history.
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Post by: Rhino on June 27, 2017, 07:15:48 AM
F4 Phantom flying between the hangers at RAF St Athan.

Not my picture but I did witness this on more than one occasion during the mid to late 80's, it was a bit of a tradition to do it after a either a successful post major overhaul test flight or on the delivery flight back to the squadron

(http://i.imgur.com/oSUlcNB.jpg)

Saw the Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels in Phantoms back in high school. Big, loud, impressive airplanes. They leave an impression.
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Post by: SapperLdr on July 04, 2017, 11:49:51 AM
A few good ones.
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Post by: Rhino on July 05, 2017, 08:42:06 AM
LOVE that pic of the 38's on the deck! Once saw Lefty Gardner do that with "White Lightning" (now the Red Bull P-38) at Lakeway airpark in Texas. He used to be my brother's neighbor there and I had a chance to sit in the cockpit.
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Post by: Rhino on July 31, 2017, 11:49:54 AM
https://www.cnet.com/pictures/meet-the-stratolaunch-the-worlds-largest-airplane/?ftag=ACQ9265a8a&vndid=1861369253&nan_pid=1861369253&ad_id=6535177 (https://www.cnet.com/pictures/meet-the-stratolaunch-the-worlds-largest-airplane/?ftag=ACQ9265a8a&vndid=1861369253&nan_pid=1861369253&ad_id=6535177)

Kind of fugly but damn, that is one impressive airplane.

(https://cnet4.cbsistatic.com/img/EEfLruvi8qpF_tE-8wMsNUVTiLM=/1170x0/2017/06/05/2e0cbe52-3f2a-4afd-8430-41552a6ace84/cnet-stratolaunch-22.jpg)
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Post by: gPink on July 31, 2017, 01:53:27 PM
Looks like a bit of turbulence would break it in half.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on July 31, 2017, 03:32:16 PM
This is not a new design...
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Post by: gPink on July 31, 2017, 03:53:02 PM
doesn't make it any better
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 01, 2017, 07:15:21 AM
I agree.  I guess we'll have to see if it works or not.  I hope it does simply because of the amount of money, time and effort they've put into it.
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Post by: Rhino on August 01, 2017, 11:21:08 AM
I agree.  I guess we'll have to see if it works or not.  I hope it does simply because of the amount of money, time and effort they've put into it.

Burt Rutan made this work. If your going to trust any aircraft designer these days, Burt Rutan is the man!

(http://www.burtrutan.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/VoyagerOverMojave.jpg)
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Post by: Bergmen on August 01, 2017, 04:56:37 PM
https://www.cnet.com/pictures/meet-the-stratolaunch-the-worlds-largest-airplane/?ftag=ACQ9265a8a&vndid=1861369253&nan_pid=1861369253&ad_id=6535177 (https://www.cnet.com/pictures/meet-the-stratolaunch-the-worlds-largest-airplane/?ftag=ACQ9265a8a&vndid=1861369253&nan_pid=1861369253&ad_id=6535177)

Kind of fugly but damn, that is one impressive airplane.

(https://cnet4.cbsistatic.com/img/EEfLruvi8qpF_tE-8wMsNUVTiLM=/1170x0/2017/06/05/2e0cbe52-3f2a-4afd-8430-41552a6ace84/cnet-stratolaunch-22.jpg)

We saw this on the ramp when we were on our way to Barstow on 58 in early June. At first I thought it was Spaceship One, but now I see it was the Stratolaunch aircraft.

Can't find any schedule for first flight. I would sure like to see that.

Dan
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Post by: just gone on August 05, 2017, 09:43:11 AM
I'm certainly no engineer of any kind, and I have much respect for Rutan...but...it sure seems that just the thinnest of a connecting strut at the rear
could eliminate a lot of potential stress on that center section of wing.
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Post by: slolifepilot on August 08, 2017, 01:16:11 PM
We saw this on the ramp when we were on our way to Barstow on 58 in early June. At first I thought it was Spaceship One, but now I see it was the Stratolaunch aircraft.

Can't find any schedule for first flight. I would sure like to see that.

Dan
I had the good fortune to be in the air close to Mojave when one of the first test flights of Spaceship One launched.  Pretty amazing to watch the trail as it climbed away from the launch vehicle, we could see their respective contrails.  I've wanted to take a ride out to the Mojave Spaceport and look around, just have to wait for the temperature to drop a little below the surface of the sun! 8)
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Post by: gPink on August 08, 2017, 06:58:24 PM
http://www.pacaf.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1272434/south-dakota-airmen-arrive-ready-to-fight-tonight-from-guam/ (http://www.pacaf.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1272434/south-dakota-airmen-arrive-ready-to-fight-tonight-from-guam/)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 08, 2017, 08:13:12 PM
28th Bomb Wing - my dad's first AF assignment in the early 50's.....RB-36's back then (28th SRW, Heavy)   Ellsworth AFB  Named after General Ellsworth was killed in an RB from the 718th crashing into Canada in 1953, I think.
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Post by: tonedeaf1 on August 08, 2017, 09:54:42 PM
Yeah, it sure does make you wonder how it stays together. Especially when you consider it has to manage all the independent forces that are loaded to the middle wing from each of the two "airplanes". It would almost seem like the only way would be sensor based load management baked into the fly-by-wire electronics. (Gotta be fly-by-wire doesn't it?)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on August 09, 2017, 12:25:13 PM
Century Fighters..

http://youtu.be/xXQhmHT3Ku8 (http://youtu.be/xXQhmHT3Ku8)
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Post by: Rhino on August 09, 2017, 03:12:04 PM
Yeah, it sure does make you wonder how it stays together. Especially when you consider it has to manage all the independent forces that are loaded to the middle wing from each of the two "airplanes". It would almost seem like the only way would be sensor based load management baked into the fly-by-wire electronics. (Gotta be fly-by-wire doesn't it?)

I was thinking the same thing. The electronics today could essentially fly the 2 airplanes in perfect formation. And I bet there are some maximum weather/turbulence standards on that airplane.
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Post by: gPink on January 06, 2018, 07:09:51 AM
Interesting story on the A-10... https://youtu.be/HpCvySLGuOA
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Post by: O.C. on January 06, 2018, 07:45:57 AM
Interesting story on the A-10... https://youtu.be/HpCvySLGuOA

Amazing...thanks for sharing
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Post by: Nosmo on January 06, 2018, 11:36:08 AM
We saw this on the ramp when we were on our way to Barstow on 58 in early June. At first I thought it was Spaceship One, but now I see it was the Stratolaunch aircraft.

Can't find any schedule for first flight. I would sure like to see that.

Dan

Looks like two cockpits, probably two sets of controls, so....what if the pilot on the right wants to turn left and the pilot on the left wants to turn right? 
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Post by: just gone on January 06, 2018, 12:16:57 PM
Looks like two cockpits, probably two sets of controls, so....what if the pilot on the right wants to turn left and the pilot on the left wants to turn right? 
Nope.

Quote from: page 8 from the link in Rhino's post above {#932}
The port side cockpit, meanwhile, is designed to stay empty and unpressurized.
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Post by: Rhino on January 11, 2018, 10:46:14 AM
Just got back from Truk Lagoon and saw a number of Japanese aircraft including a Nakajima B6N "Jill", Kawanishi H8K "Emily" large flying boat, Mitsubishi G4M "Betty" bomber and still in a cargo ships hold 5 Zero's and an older Mitsubishi A5M "Claude". My Sony action cam died on the 4th dive  (funny how that happens when you take a 30 meter housing below 30 meters) and the only aircraft pics I got were of the Jill and the Emily.
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Post by: gPink on January 11, 2018, 11:14:09 AM
Long way from home Rhino.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on January 11, 2018, 11:35:24 AM
Excellent pictures!
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Post by: B.D.F. on January 11, 2018, 12:00:44 PM
Outstanding! Must have been great to visit pieces of history like that. Those aircraft are surprisingly preserved for being in such shallow, warm water.

I always wanted to visit Normandy but so far it has not happened.

Brian

Just got back from Truk Lagoon and saw a number of Japanese aircraft including a Nakajima B6N "Jill", Kawanishi H8K "Emily" large flying boat, Mitsubishi G4M "Betty" bomber and still in a cargo ships hold 5 Zero's and an older Mitsubishi A5M "Claude". My Sony action cam died on the 4th dive  (funny how that happens when you take a 30 meter housing below 30 meters) and the only aircraft pics I got were of the Jill and the Emily.
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Post by: Rhino on January 11, 2018, 02:39:28 PM
Outstanding! Must have been great to visit pieces of history like that. Those aircraft are surprisingly preserved for being in such shallow, warm water.

I always wanted to visit Normandy but so far it has not happened.

Brian

Everything made of aluminum held up well. Some of the ships are collapsing on their own as the steel rusts away. The Zero's inside the Fujikawa Maru were jumbled and one was upside down in about 120' of water. I was able to open one of the landing gear small doors and there was the tire seemingly well preserved. It had popped off the bead. Wondering if the 60 psi of water pressure did that as the air leaked out over the last 74 years. It went down exactly 74 years ago this coming February 17. There is enough explosives still down there to level a small city. Saw torpedo, depth charges, arial bombs, land mines, 1000's of cannon shells ranging from 6" to 14". One of the ships that I didn't dive had 18" shells that could only be for the Yamato or the Musashi battle ships.

This is the 10' wide hole made by a torpedo from an Avenger on the Heian Maru. Ripped open the 1 1/2" thick steel like a 44 mag through a beer can.
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Post by: O.C. on January 12, 2018, 01:41:42 AM
WOW !   fantastic pictures and thanks for sharing    :)   

I used to dive back in the mid 90s, and achieved 50 + Dives in the Maldives based at Kanifinolhu Island. At Male  there was a wreck of the cargo boat Victory which sank on Friday 13th in about 1980/1 I think, the story is that the captain was p*ssed and the boat hit the land reef, backed up and just sank, it now lies in about 30m water sitting perfectly upright on the sea bed, its quite big (over 30,000 tons I think) and is a great dive, we dived it about 5 times

I don't dive any more these days, but used to love it
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Post by: gPink on June 27, 2018, 05:56:41 PM
The Strike Eagles were flying so low over the Welsh countryside that aircraft enthusiasts watching from the hills could peer directly into the cockpits. (Oli Scarff/AFP/Getty Images)

Military aircraft enthusiasts watch as a United States Air Force F-15E fighter jet travels at low altitude through the 'Mach Loop' series of valleys near Dolgellau in northern Wales on June 26. (Oli Scarff/AFP/Getty Images)

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/06/27/air-force-pilots-graze-welsh-countryside-in-spectacular-training-runs/ (https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/06/27/air-force-pilots-graze-welsh-countryside-in-spectacular-training-runs/)

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Post by: VirginiaJim on June 28, 2018, 04:35:55 AM
Great picture!
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Post by: Rubber_Snake on June 28, 2018, 09:32:36 AM
When we made our spring trip to Tombstone AZ, we passed through Death Valley. To my amazement, I learned about the Jedi Transition firsthand.  This is probably one of the best places to watch F18s, F15s, etc. pass in the valley below you.  I’ve seen the Blue Angels about ten times, but it doesn’t compare to this.  Check out the video I took (on my phone).  If you have an ipad or computer monitor, it’s much better.  (I wish I would’ve kept my trap shut, I hate the sound of my own voice!).  The word “awesome” is so overused by kids today, but this experience truly meets the definition.

https://youtu.be/IiZSZAJfwxk
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Post by: Rhino on June 28, 2018, 01:26:34 PM
Awesome! Gives me goosebumps!
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Post by: Pilgrim on July 13, 2018, 03:44:15 PM

Fifi the B-29 Bomber is in town this weekend, Nashua NH.

https://www.airpowersquadron.org/ (https://www.airpowersquadron.org/)

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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 20, 2019, 06:18:33 PM
This one is from my friend Charlie in England...
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Post by: just gone on March 21, 2019, 07:41:06 AM
This one is from my friend Charlie in England...

So the guy in the lower front lays on his belly (bombardier?)with an uncomfortable curve in his back while the gunner just above straddles him (see shoes/boots to left and right)?
Must suck to be the bombardier or whatever that position is. Certainly he was only in that position for the bomb run...right?
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Post by: Pilgrim on September 28, 2019, 01:48:32 PM

The Wings of Freedom Tour is in town this weekend.  I heard one of them go over my house yesterday afternoon but didn't see it.  There is not much that sounds like those engines anymore.  Loud, long and low frequencies.  You can still here them minutes after they've gone by.  No way could they sneak up on anyone.
https://www.collingsfoundation.org/event/nashua-nh/ (https://www.collingsfoundation.org/event/nashua-nh/)
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Post by: Pilgrim on October 02, 2019, 10:09:06 AM

Sad news.  The B-17 just crashed in Conn.    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/02/us/connecticut-plane-crash-trnd/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/02/us/connecticut-plane-crash-trnd/index.html)

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Post by: VirginiaJim on October 04, 2019, 04:39:35 AM
Sad for everyone.
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Post by: Pilgrim on September 29, 2020, 03:13:35 PM

Came across the National Championship Air Races in Reno Tahoe on NBCSN.  Six race classes from bi-planes to jets.  Cool stuff like STOL race.  Going 400+ MPH 50 feet off the ground.  :o  Who can afford to race jets?